Speaker of the House discussion

[HellToupee 1,681]

Make no mistake folks , this was a win for MAGA

[jerryskids 6,704]

22 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Make no mistake folks , this was a win for MAGA

I hope it is a win for conservatism, but we'll see.  I think MAGA folks have a misguided idea of what authoritarian power a Republican speaker can wield with a narrow house majority, and Dem control of the Senate and Executive branch.  His primary role in such a situation is to get unity among the house republicans to overcome guaranteed unity among house democrats, and to use that unity to negotiate acceptable small advances which can get through the Senate and POTUS.  McCarthy seemed pretty well suited for that role, except for the handful of petulant children like Gaetz.  Now we'll see what the petulant children can accomplish. 

I don't hold out much hope, because people like Gaetz don't want to actually accomplish anything, they want publicity for their future political ambitions, and screaming "oh noes the establishments$#@!" gets a lot more traction than accomplishing things.   

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,308]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I hope it is a win for conservatism, but we'll see.  I think MAGA folks have a misguided idea of what authoritarian power a Republican speaker can wield with a narrow house majority, and Dem control of the Senate and Executive branch.  His primary role in such a situation is to get unity among the house republicans to overcome guaranteed unity among house democrats, and to use that unity to negotiate acceptable small advances which can get through the Senate and POTUS.  McCarthy seemed pretty well suited for that role, except for the handful of petulant children like Gaetz.  Now we'll see what the petulant children can accomplish. 

I don't hold out much hope, because people like Gaetz don't want to actually accomplish anything, they want publicity for their future political ambitions, and screaming "oh noes the establishments$#@!" gets a lot more traction than accomplishing things.   

I hardly every disagree with you jerry. But Gaetz has been clear since day one he’s wanted none of this omnibus spending. It has nothing to do with political ambitions in my opinion. I’ve watched him speak a few times on timcast and he presents what his plans are very clearly. 
 

glad you’re getting some great vacations in brother 

[squistion 2,102]

36 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

But states do have the right to. 

So you think that gay sex should be criminalized?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,308]

Just now, squistion said:

So you think that gay sex should be criminalized?

Where is that happening?  

[jerryskids 6,704]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I hardly every disagree with you jerry. But Gaetz has been clear since day one he’s wanted none of this omnibus spending. It has nothing to do with political ambitions in my opinion. I’ve watched him speak a few times on timcast and he presents what his plans are very clearly. 
 

glad you’re getting some great vacations in brother 

Lots of people have not wanted omnibus spending but it never happens, I guess we'll see how it goes.  My prediction is that if they stick with that, nothing goes through, Republicans look bad in the process, and Gaetz gets his "the establishment!" mileage that I personally believe is his end goal.

Thanks on the vacations.   

[squistion 2,102]

34 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Plus Donald was the best president the lgbtq ever had. No better friend than the Boss.

Liar. He wouldn't even allow the Pride flag to be flown at a US embassy during Pride Month (contrary to prior administration).

[jerryskids 6,704]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

So you think that gay sex should be criminalized?

That's not what he said.  He said states have the right to.  Hopefully you can see the difference, but I'm not very confident.

[squistion 2,102]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Where is that happening?  

It isn't but that is what he was calling for.

[squistion 2,102]

Just now, jerryskids said:

That's not what he said.  He said states have the right to.  Hopefully you can see the difference, but I'm not very confident.

A distinction without a difference. That is what is wanted (and probably still does).

[The Real timschochet 6,585]

I’m not down with the liberal criticism of Johnson. He’s a social conservative so I’m never going to to agree with him on a variety of issues, but he’s at least coming off as a decent enough guy (I never heard of him until late last night.) 

I really don’t care what he’s done in the past. It’s a clean slate as far as I’m concerned. If he wants to run things in a crazy MAGA way I’m sure he’ll get ripped to shreds. But for now I wish him well. 

[The Real timschochet 6,585]

22 minutes ago, squistion said:

Liar. He wouldn't even allow the Pride flag to be flown at a US embassy during Pride Month (contrary to prior administration).

He’s trolling you. Actually he’s been trolling you for years now. 

[RogerDodger 797]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Looked like a bunch of fools for like 2 weeks but "WE DID IT! AND OWNED WHAT WE THINK LIBS WANT!"

 

Good way to govern

One of the pink haired teachers in the lounge help you draft that word salad?

[The Real timschochet 6,585]

But I gotta say Ukraine funding is a defining issue. The media is focused on recognizing the legitimacy of the 2020 election but that’s over and done with. Ukraine on the other hand is pressing. I don’t believe it is in America’s interests to let Russia take Ukraine and if this guy cuts off aid he will not go down well in history. So we’ll see. 

[thegeneral 3,100]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

But I gotta say Ukraine funding is a defining issue. The media is focused on recognizing the legitimacy of the 2020 election but that’s over and done with. Ukraine on the other hand is pressing. I don’t believe it is in America’s interests to let Russia take Ukraine and if this guy cuts off aid he will not go down well in history. So we’ll see. 

Do they have the votes to do that?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,308]

29 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Lots of people have not wanted omnibus spending but it never happens, I guess we'll see how it goes.  My prediction is that if they stick with that, nothing goes through, Republicans look bad in the process, and Gaetz gets his "the establishment!" mileage that I personally believe is his end goal.

Thanks on the vacations.   

True they “want” it. But Gaetz has been the only one to actually fight for it. So yah we will see but I for one love it

[thegeneral 3,100]

35 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I hope it is a win for conservatism, but we'll see.  I think MAGA folks have a misguided idea of what authoritarian power a Republican speaker can wield with a narrow house majority, and Dem control of the Senate and Executive branch.  His primary role in such a situation is to get unity among the house republicans to overcome guaranteed unity among house democrats, and to use that unity to negotiate acceptable small advances which can get through the Senate and POTUS.  McCarthy seemed pretty well suited for that role, except for the handful of petulant children like Gaetz.  Now we'll see what the petulant children can accomplish. 

I don't hold out much hope, because people like Gaetz don't want to actually accomplish anything, they want publicity for their future political ambitions, and screaming "oh noes the establishments$#@!" gets a lot more traction than accomplishing things.   

Great post. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,224]

33 minutes ago, squistion said:

So you think that gay sex should be criminalized?

Why would you make such a stupid statement ? If I point out that Rashid Talib has the right to spew her anti-semetic and anti- American venom would you ask me if I agreed with what she said? Are you an American still? Nazis have a right to protest too. Get it ? But nice try. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

I’m just glad it’s over so government can function as it should.  

[RogerDodger 797]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m not down with the liberal criticism of Johnson. He’s a social conservative so I’m never going to to agree with him on a variety of issues, but he’s at least coming off as a decent enough guy (I never heard of him until late last night.) 

I really don’t care what he’s done in the past. It’s a clean slate as far as I’m concerned. If he wants to run things in a crazy MAGA way I’m sure he’ll get ripped to shreds. But for now I wish him well. 

Reread your OP mush brain and realize Johnson is Jordan's protege.  And has a F Grade from Republicans for Ukraine.  

 

[HellToupee 1,681]

42 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Gaetz don't want to actually accomplish anything, they want publicity for their future political ambitions

he wants to be governor of Florida 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,224]

Fund Ukraine. Just make sure the corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine aren’t taking it. And maybe call a cease fire and have some talks? At least try? Before China does. 

[The Real timschochet 6,585]

5 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Reread your OP mush brain and realize Johnson is Jordan's protege.  And has a F Grade from Republicans for Ukraine.  

 

He wasn’t in charge then. Lots of people say lots of stuff when they don’t have responsibility. As I wrote, clean slate. 

[The Real timschochet 6,585]

11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Do they have the votes to do that?

He can prevent it from coming to a vote. If he wants. 

[HellToupee 1,681]

37 minutes ago, squistion said:

Liar. He wouldn't even allow the Pride flag to be flown at a US embassy during Pride Month (contrary to prior administration).

Pride flag shouldn’t be flown at an embassy . Only the Stars & Stripes should be flown FFS 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,002]

44 minutes ago, squistion said:

Liar. He wouldn't even allow the Pride flag to be flown at a US embassy during Pride Month (contrary to prior administration).

We shouldn't be flying ANY f'n flags besides the stars and stripes, much less queer "look at me, ain't I special" flags or any other f'n flag.

You can take your divisive flags and shove them up your @ss.  LGBTQ isn't something we should be "celebrating" in the first place.  It's a direct affront to the human prime directive.

[HellToupee 1,681]

20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

He’s trolling you. Actually he’s been trolling you for years now. 

Not true . Everything I said is true

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,002]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

Pride flag shouldn’t be flown at an embassy . Only the Stars & Stripes should be flown FFS 

You beat me to it by ONE MINUTE!!!!

[RogerDodger 797]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

He wasn’t in charge then. Lots of people say lots of stuff when they don’t have responsibility. As I wrote, clean slate. 

You werent giving Jordan a clean slate when you started this thread and were sure he was the guy. Checks all the same boxes.  

Perfect sense as usual.  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Guy looks like a 12 year old with a toupee

[Hardcore troubadour 15,224]

Just now, RogerDodger said:

You werent giving Jordan a clean slate when you started this thread and were sure he was the guy. Checks all the same boxes.  

Perfect sense as usual.  

It’s unreal. 

[HellToupee 1,681]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You beat me to it by ONE MINUTE!!!!

It’s common sense. Only 1 flag belongs there

[Engorgeous George 2,271]

Republicans excited about their Johnson

[RogerDodger 797]

3 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Republicans excited about their Johnson

Boebert is already offering to give Johnson a hand.

[thegeneral 3,100]

5 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Republicans excited about their Johnson

Of course he’s tiny. 

[shorepatrol 1,870]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Liar. He wouldn't even allow the Pride flag to be flown at a US embassy during Pride Month (contrary to prior administration).

Well, being a phag shouldn't be celebrated. Stay in the closet hooooomooooo

[SUXBNME 1,480]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Guy looks like a 12 year old with a toupee

Much like your mom

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,002]

2 hours ago, HellToupee said:

It’s common sense. Only 1 flag belongs there

Squid really loves his gheys to the point that he thinks they should get special treatment.

[seafoam1 2,913]

4 hours ago, squistion said:

Liar. He wouldn't even allow the Pride flag to be flown at a US embassy during Pride Month (contrary to prior administration).

So liberals schools cancel Halloween because of "diversity, equity and inclusion" but we need to celebrate gays for 1/12 of the year? 

We don't care about people of faith? 

Can you please define who we should care about?  And more importantly, who we should not care about? 

[League Champion 1,909]