Speaker of the House discussion

[seafoam1 2,898]

Poor generalpimpledooshtimmy.

Gotta suck having TDS. 

[jonmx 2,425]

14 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Poor generalpimpledooshtimmy.

Gotta suck having TDS. 

Even sucks more when they are stuck supporting Biden.  Pretty bad when their candidate can not beat someone in prison. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Bunch of nuts the republicans are choosing between now. Most all of em voted against certifying the 2020 presidential election results.

Emmer might be okay though?

[The Real timschochet 6,575]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Bunch of nuts the republicans are choosing between now. Most all of em voted against certifying the 2020 presidential election results.

Emmer might be okay though?

Yep. Of course Trump has let out the word that it can’t be Emmer. The Maga types want Bryan Donalds. He insisted only last month that Trump won the election. 
 

What a total sh!tshow. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

5 hours ago, jonmx said:

What is insane is there is not one Democrat who gives a fuk about freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution.....Worship censorship, deep desire to control guns, hate religious freedom, loves state controlled media, loves controlling access to information, loves using FBI to attack political opponents, loves getting us entangled in useless wars, loves treating races unequally, loves brainwashing children....I hate authoritarian bastards to the core.  

 

IMHO, there are actually quite a few elected Democrats who are relatively moderate. And don't have scandals. They just won't get near the highest levers of power. 

Those like Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom rise because they can be controlled. 

Abagail Spanberger is a liberal. Whitmer is a pure out and out "leftist" 

I consider leftists to be openly dangerous. I have no quarrel with traditional liberals. But you rarely hear from them. They are ignored and marginalized by the activist complicit MSM. 

[Fnord 2,160]

7 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

IMHO, there are actually quite a few elected Democrats who are relatively moderate. And don't have scandals. They just won't get near the highest levers of power. 

Those like Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom rise because they can be controlled. 

Abagail Spanberger is a liberal. Whitmer is a pure out and out "leftist" 

I consider leftists to be openly dangerous. I have no quarrel with traditional liberals. But you rarely hear from them. They are ignored and marginalized by the activist complicit MSM. 

Thing is, you hear from them all the time. But anything they say gets drowned out in the right wing media noise as "far left." The RW Media CANNOT allow for anything suggested by a Democrat to be anything other then MARXIST PROPAGANDA. It's a pretty cool feedback loop that's been constructed intentionally to keep low information voters pissed off about how America is turning into a dystopian hellhole, while effectively ignoring their own parties' inability to govern or make any sort of positive change. 

That feedback loop gives us people like @jonmx, who seemingly stand ready to carry out violence against their "enemies."

The NYT posted an editorial comment this morning offering a mea culpa for the haphazard and misleading coverage of the Gaza hospital story. Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, et al. would never do such a thing. Why would they? Their "readers" don't demand truth, they demand reinforcement of beliefs.

[seafoam1 2,898]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Thing is, you hear from lefty nut jobs all the time. Everything they say is focked up. They are the party of the violent hate-fiilled useless dimwitted.

Agreed. Very much so. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,198]

3 years in and the crying continues that people doubt the election results. But they still doubt the one before, and that’s ok of course, orange Hitler won.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,198]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Thing is, you hear from them all the time. But anything they say gets drowned out in the right wing media noise as "far left." The RW Media CANNOT allow for anything suggested by a Democrat to be anything other then MARXIST PROPAGANDA. It's a pretty cool feedback loop that's been constructed intentionally to keep low information voters pissed off about how America is turning into a dystopian hellhole, while effectively ignoring their own parties' inability to govern or make any sort of positive change. 

That feedback loop gives us people like @jonmx, who seemingly stand ready to carry out violence against their "enemies."

The NYT posted an editorial comment this morning offering a mea culpa for the haphazard and misleading coverage of the Gaza hospital story. Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, et al. would never do such a thing. Why would they? Their "readers" don't demand truth, they demand reinforcement of beliefs.

Yeah. The governing was great before the republicans took the house. So much legislation was passed that has rally helped working Americans. So much. 

[The Real timschochet 6,575]

Trump has now changed his tune and says he’s buddies with Emmer, just spoke to him, has no problem with him etc. 

The situation is still murky but my guess now is that Emmer will be the next Speaker perhaps as early as tomorrow. Guess we’ll see though. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Trump has now changed his tune and says he’s buddies with Emmer, just spoke to him, has no problem with him etc. 

The situation is still murky but my guess now is that Emmer will be the next Speaker perhaps as early as tomorrow. Guess we’ll see though. 

Wow that’s a huge about-face. Guess Trump couldn’t risk any more damage after Jordan couldn’t win with his endorsement 

[thegeneral 3,092]

8 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

3 years in and the crying continues that people doubt the election results. But they still doubt the one before, and that’s ok of course, orange Hitler won.  

Trump won against Hillary. Then lost to Biden.

HTH

[seafoam1 2,898]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Trump won against Hillary. Then lost to Biden.

HTH

No one here said the liberals aren't good cheaters. I would just think you would actually pick a sane, functional, decent, intelligent  human to cheat into the white house. 

HTH

[Hardcore troubadour 15,198]

40 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Trump won against Hillary. Then lost to Biden.

HTH

Too late. We had to be subjected to three years of a bullshit special counsel based on the pee tape that Hillary paid for. The damage was done and you liked it. Believed it too. Sad. 

[thegeneral 3,092]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Too late. We had to be subjected to three years of a bullshit special counsel based on the pee tape that Hillary paid for. The damage was done and you liked it. Believed it too. Sad. 

If I had to bet Trump won in 2016, but not by much

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Emmer is officially up now.

Doesn't have the votes quite yet but they gotta stop this insanity soon

[Hardcore troubadour 15,198]

16 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Emmer is officially up now.

Doesn't have the votes quite yet but they gotta stop this insanity soon

Good thing we have strong leadership at the White House to fall back on. I mean the beach. 

[seafoam1 2,898]

Oof. The liberals are taking a well deserved beating yet again. 

[HellToupee 1,675]

Screw Emmer. 

[HellToupee 1,675]

As usual I agree with Catturd

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

6 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

As usual I agree with Catturd

 

Looks like you got your matching orders: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4272938-trump-emmer-speaker-tragic-mistake/amp/

[seafoam1 2,898]

19 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Looks like you got your matching orders: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4272938-trump-emmer-speaker-tragic-mistake/amp/

That's a stupid take because you voted for who you were told to vote for. Your marching orders. 

[Mike Honcho 5,250]

Hardline conservative says it's time to consider other speaker candidates given no path for Emmer

From CNN's Haley Talbot and Lauren Fox

Hardline conservative Rep. Matt Rosendale said it’s time to consider other candidates besides Speaker designee Tom Emmer, who's race for the gavel seems to be on thin ice.

The Montana Republican pointed to Reps. Kevin Hern and Mike Johnson, who ran and lost the nomination to Emmer during the secret ballot voting earlier Tuesday, as possible alternatives for speaker.

“Tom Emmer has secured the nomination but no longer has a path to secure 217 votes. It’s time to get back in the room and give Kevin Hern and Mike Johnson an opportunity to get to 217!” he posted on X.

 

13 min ago

Rep. Sessions says Emmer failed to change minds of foes in closed-door GOP meeting

From CNN's Clare Foran, Manu Raju and Sam Fossum

GOP Rep. Pete Sessions said he did not see Speaker designee Tom Emmer change anyone’s mind in a closed-door Republican conference meeting as he tries to flip 26 holdouts. The Texas Republican suggested there may need to be another candidate in the race.

“He did not change anybody’s mind of these seven or eight or nine people that spoke,” Sessions told CNN. He also said he “did not see anyone back away from their objections,” when asked if he has any level of confidence that Emmer will get the votes.

When asked if there should be another candidate in the race, Sessions said, “I would believe that’s evidently where we are. We perhaps believed that before the day started.”

Sessions, who threw his own name into the hat for speaker, was thrown out of the race Tuesday morning during the secret ballot voting.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

12 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Hardline conservative says it's time to consider other speaker candidates given no path for Emmer

From CNN's Haley Talbot and Lauren Fox

Hardline conservative Rep. Matt Rosendale said it’s time to consider other candidates besides Speaker designee Tom Emmer, who's race for the gavel seems to be on thin ice.

The Montana Republican pointed to Reps. Kevin Hern and Mike Johnson, who ran and lost the nomination to Emmer during the secret ballot voting earlier Tuesday, as possible alternatives for speaker.

“Tom Emmer has secured the nomination but no longer has a path to secure 217 votes. It’s time to get back in the room and give Kevin Hern and Mike Johnson an opportunity to get to 217!” he posted on X.

 

 

 

 

 

13 min ago

Rep. Sessions says Emmer failed to change minds of foes in closed-door GOP meeting

From CNN's Clare Foran, Manu Raju and Sam Fossum

GOP Rep. Pete Sessions said he did not see Speaker designee Tom Emmer change anyone’s mind in a closed-door Republican conference meeting as he tries to flip 26 holdouts. The Texas Republican suggested there may need to be another candidate in the race.

“He did not change anybody’s mind of these seven or eight or nine people that spoke,” Sessions told CNN. He also said he “did not see anyone back away from their objections,” when asked if he has any level of confidence that Emmer will get the votes.

When asked if there should be another candidate in the race, Sessions said, “I would believe that’s evidently where we are. We perhaps believed that before the day started.”

Sessions, who threw his own name into the hat for speaker, was thrown out of the race Tuesday morning during the secret ballot voting.

You have got to be kidding me.

This is absurd!

[thegeneral 3,092]

Emmer officially out

Nice work GOP!

[The Real timschochet 6,575]

Lololol. 
 

The hardliners will only accept a hardliner. Good luck to them. I don’t think there’s going to be a Speaker anytime soon. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,198]

Anything is better than a confirmed anti-Semite like HAKEEM Jeffries. 

[Mark Davis 379]

3 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Emmer is officially up now.

Doesn't have the votes quite yet but they gotta stop this insanity soon

Why would you assume this?  I don't think there's anyone that can get 217.  The Republican Party itself is broken.  I agree with Nancy Pelosi on almost nothing, but she could keep the kooks in the squad in line as well as more moderate members such as Spanberger, etc.  The Republicans seem to all want to be able to call audibles at the line.  That's actually a good thing when it comes to voting on bills and forming their own opinion, it's extremely stupid when trying to select leadership and paralyzing your party.

[HellToupee 1,675]

Great news about Emmer

[Hardcore troubadour 15,198]

7 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

Why would you assume this?  I don't think there's anyone that can get 217.  The Republican Party itself is broken.  I agree with Nancy Pelosi on almost nothing, but she could keep the kooks in the squad in line as well as more moderate members such as Spanberger, etc.  The Republicans seem to all want to be able to call audibles at the line.  That's actually a good thing when it comes to voting on bills and forming their own opinion, it's extremely stupid when trying to select leadership and paralyzing your party.

The squad was powerless under Nancy. She didn’t need their votes. Her margin was bigger. Don’t think they wouldn’t pull the same power play if they could have. 

[Mark Davis 379]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The squad was powerless under Nancy. She didn’t need their votes. Her margin was bigger. Don’t think they wouldn’t pull the same power play if they could have. 

There's a lot of truth to that, but as a whole when it comes to leadership votes the D's wield power over their members to keep them in line.  Republican leadership tends to try and bend to accommodate, Democratic leadership tends to punish those who fall out of line.  That's been my view at the least.  Maybe that past action wouldn't change where they are today but while I agree with the R's far more than the D's these days, this was an error from those 8 worthy of being placed on the short bus.  I get that Gaetz wants to run for governor and this has a lot to do with getting his name out there.  I think he's the one way the R's could lose that race even with FL trending more and more red.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

29 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

Why would you assume this?  I don't think there's anyone that can get 217.  The Republican Party itself is broken.  I agree with Nancy Pelosi on almost nothing, but she could keep the kooks in the squad in line as well as more moderate members such as Spanberger, etc.  The Republicans seem to all want to be able to call audibles at the line.  That's actually a good thing when it comes to voting on bills and forming their own opinion, it's extremely stupid when trying to select leadership and paralyzing your party.

You can’t just not have a Speaker. Even the Trumpers can’t be this focking dumb, can they?

[IGotWorms 4,057]

16 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

There's a lot of truth to that, but as a whole when it comes to leadership votes the D's wield power over their members to keep them in line.  Republican leadership tends to try and bend to accommodate, Democratic leadership tends to punish those who fall out of line.  That's been my view at the least.  Maybe that past action wouldn't change where they are today but while I agree with the R's far more than the D's these days, this was an error from those 8 worthy of being placed on the short bus.  I get that Gaetz wants to run for governor and this has a lot to do with getting his name out there.  I think he's the one way the R's could lose that race even with FL trending more and more red.

R’s used to be much better about keeping them in line, but then they fostered the tea party and MAGA and now here we are 

[Mark Davis 379]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

You can’t just not have a Speaker. Even the Trumpers can’t be this focking dumb, can they?

The problem is those 8 decided they didn't want McCarthy.  The same core group was against someone like Scalise.  Now in response, the more moderate members are standing against the further right candidates like Jordan.  I think this goes on until some triggering incident occurs but if they want to empower McHenry they should just make him speaker and move on.  These guys are bigger divas than the actresses on Desperate Housewives.

[thegeneral 3,092]

Dems make a deal with like 10 of the moderates to pick Liz Cheney.

This would be a slick move.

[Mark Davis 379]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Dems make a deal with like 10 of the moderates to pick Liz Cheney.

This would be a slick move.

I heard people suggesting things like this, I don't see it happening.  I'd be stunned if any D voted for anyone other than Jeffires.  There's no political reason for them to bail out the R's here and let's be honest, that's all either side is about is getting reelected.  For people like Matt Rosendale, this boosts him up to sure up the base in that MT Senate primary.

[League Champion 1,909]

Did Old Man Joe crap himself again?

 

 

[thegeneral 3,092]

4 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

I heard people suggesting things like this, I don't see it happening.  I'd be stunned if any D voted for anyone other than Jeffires.  There's no political reason for them to bail out the R's here and let's be honest, that's all either side is about is getting reelected.  For people like Matt Rosendale, this boosts him up to sure up the base in that MT Senate primary.

Agreed they’d never do it but it would be a great PR move, especially in the short term for the party in whole.

Practically they will be dealing with a much bigger eventually.

I am unfamiliar with the person and political situation you mentioned but def see there being political advantages to let the GOP continue to drive their little clown car around in circles.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

So now they’re saying it’s gonna be Mike Johnson, a Trumper out of Louisiana.

Voted to deny the 2020 election results

[Hardcore troubadour 15,198]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

So now they’re saying it’s gonna be Mike Johnson, a Trumper out of Louisiana.

Voted to deny the 2020 election results

Emmer lost out because he is an election fraud denier. You’re funny though. I wonder what would happen to a democrat if they said the Russian bullshit was a hoax? You have no business on that high horse. Your side is just as bad.