Legal question for geeks *UPDATE*

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, Stryker Ryker said:

Did you even READ the posts? Or did you just come in here and start insulting without reading? You came in insulting without reading is what you did. Now why don’t you turn around, and go reread my posts dumbass. After that, come back and respond cause all u did was make urself sound like an idiot that didn’t read 

I read it. You asked a bizarre question that made you sound like a huge assh0le. When that was pointed out you said oh it’s not me asking it’s somebody else. Whatever buddy, the advice still stands — mind your own focking business 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

8 minutes ago, nobody said:

It could be that the other chicks are squawking because they don't like him.  That's how some chicks operate in the workplace, I've noticed.  But it sounds like you might be some sort of front line manager, so I'd expect them to squawk to you.

I’m just a provider. I’m not a “manager” or anything like that. We have a the LPNs rotate with different providers usually every week. Some will stay with one doc cause they’ve been with that one for years. But the MD just asked how his performance was & if we had any problems with him which I don’t and thought he was actually one of the best ones we have 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

I read it. You asked a bizarre question that made you sound like a huge assh0le. When that was pointed out you said oh it’s not me asking it’s somebody else. Whatever buddy, the advice still stands — mind your own focking business 

So in other words, you didn’t read. You just wanted to act like a complete d1ck and try to start an argument. How about YOU mind YOUR own focking business if you wanna act like that and be a complete douche

[TimHauck 2,620]

Odd, I just assumed digby was also a lawyer in addition to being a doctor, military veteran, and star athlete

[Stryker Ryker 188]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Odd, I just assumed digby was also a lawyer in addition to being a doctor, military veteran, and star athlete

You know we aren’t including you in any of these discussions cause you’ve lost your credibility and continue to prove it was justified

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Odd, I just assumed digby was also a lawyer in addition to being a doctor, military veteran, and star athlete

Oh this is Digby?

Now I get it  

[wiffleball 4,788]

Not for nothing, but I just finished reading an article about how the legal profession is really pretty much screwed with Chad gpt. AI is already replacing many of the projects that lawyers used to Bill out the wazoo for.

[nobody 2,564]

He's probably coordinating with Hamas.  You guys are going to have to bust in on him in the bathroom.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Just now, wiffleball said:

Not for nothing, but I just finished reading an article about how the legal profession is really pretty much screwed with Chad gpt. AI is already replacing many of the projects that lawyers used to Bill out the wazoo for.

The old billing system is going out the window and that model will die. But you’ll still need in-house attorneys to know what questions to ask and validate the answers.

Then there’s litigation which can be made more efficient but cannot be replaced entirely by AI — at least not until it’s robots arguing against robots before a robot judge that spits out a ruling for us sniveling peons to suffer.

It’ll be really great

[MLCKAA 542]

2 hours ago, Stryker Ryker said:

No he clocked out, ran to get his wife and take her home, then came back up here. Spent 1 1/2 hrs out of the office. 

90 minutes and you’re considering investigating it?

Do you not have HR who can tell you what is permissible?

Do you not have retained counsel to bounce questions off?  If not, consider it.  My wife’s company is 50 employees and valued around $42M.  They don’t have the need for full-time counsel, but they have someone on retainer and she consults with him about things regularly.

[WhiteWonder 2,675]

38 minutes ago, Stryker Ryker said:

That’s the thing. This is the ONLY time he left. Which also makes me wonder who they’re hiring that’s got them acting like that to where they “investigate” employees randomly like that. The MD I hardly even associate with cause he’s hardly ever on the floor. The LPN is paid by the hour so it gets into if he clocks out to do that & clocks back in to continue work after he got back can they request documentation proving it? If he has none, can they look into the CAD system or call police departments? I know if you’re sick they tend to want doctors notes if you miss work. But this situation is one I haven’t ever encountered and just seems illegal to me 

 

See again, to me, if you are allowing an employee to clock out to leave and do something, it shouldn't matter what they are doing. Once they clock out they are no longer on company paid time and I feel like no one at the company would have any right to investigate what they were actually doing. I suppose if this employee is just deciding on his own to clock out and leave work, that is a separate issue and likely cause to investigate or terminate. 

At my old company I remember an employee who would leave to go on "business meetings" and somehow they found out she was just going to get her hair and nails done or going home. Totally different as she was salaried and doing these things on company time. 

Same company used to request doctors notes when sick but I believe enough people raised the issue that all time off was PTO. There was no distinction between sick days, personal, vacation, bereavement, etc. So essentially, even if you're sick, you are taking paid time off, the end and you don't even need to tell them you are sick. I mean I used to tell my boss I was taking a PTO because I was feeling like shit but we had a good relationship. I didn't need to say anything. I could have been golfing (and often was). 

 

If something being done seems illegal to you, there should be a number you can call to anonymously report the issue, which either your HR department or an outside company will investigate. Check your break room for a bulletin board with this info posted amongst the osha, workplace discrimination, etc stuff. 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

2 minutes ago, MLCKAA said:

90 minutes and you’re considering investigating it?

Do you not have HR who can tell you what is permissible?

Do you not have retained counsel to bounce questions off?  If not, consider it.  My wife’s company is 50 employees and valued around $42M.  They don’t have the need for full-time counsel, but they have someone on retainer and she consults with him about things regularly.

See it’s not ME who’s considering investigating it. It’s the MD who wants us to or find someone to. I’m not doing because it seems illegal to me and I don’t want my name anywhere NEAR this issue. Cause I’d side with the LPN over the MD 

[WhiteWonder 2,675]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Oh this is Digby?

Now I get it  

oh wow. I only read the first dozen or so posts and then responses to mine.   I just read up this page and the digby is clearly showing... 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

3 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

 

See again, to me, if you are allowing an employee to clock out to leave and do something, it shouldn't matter what they are doing. Once they clock out they are no longer on company paid time and I feel like no one at the company would have any right to investigate what they were actually doing. I suppose if this employee is just deciding on his own to clock out and leave work, that is a separate issue and likely cause to investigate or terminate. 

At my old company I remember an employee who would leave to go on "business meetings" and somehow they found out she was just going to get her hair and nails done or going home. Totally different as she was salaried and doing these things on company time. 

Same company used to request doctors notes when sick but I believe enough people raised the issue that all time off was PTO. There was no distinction between sick days, personal, vacation, bereavement, etc. So essentially, even if you're sick, you are taking paid time off, the end and you don't even need to tell them you are sick. I mean I used to tell my boss I was taking a PTO because I was feeling like shit but we had a good relationship. I didn't need to say anything. I could have been golfing (and often was). 

 

If something being done seems illegal to you, there should be a number you can call to anonymously report the issue, which either your HR department or an outside company will investigate. Check your break room for a bulletin board with this info posted amongst the osha, workplace discrimination, etc stuff. 

This is good info. I’m not sure if he’s contacted HR or not but I’ll inform him to check out that stuff. I’ve never been in a situation like this where HR needs to be contacted or lawyers. So I want to keep myself out of it while also passing along info to the guy. And like someone else said, it could def be the women being B1tch & just not liking him. Cause he doesn’t get out there & smoke with them since he doesn’t smoke. They take a good 8-10 smokes a day it’s why I’ve requested him to be my nurse and not the women. I’m all the time having to go find them 

[WhiteWonder 2,675]

5 minutes ago, Stryker Ryker said:

This is good info. I’m not sure if he’s contacted HR or not but I’ll inform him to check out that stuff. I’ve never been in a situation like this where HR needs to be contacted or lawyers. So I want to keep myself out of it while also passing along info to the guy. And like someone else said, it could def be the women being B1tch & just not liking him. Cause he doesn’t get out there & smoke with them since he doesn’t smoke. They take a good 8-10 smokes a day it’s why I’ve requested him to be my nurse and not the women. I’m all the time having to go find them 

no no.  Im saying there should be a number, wherever your job posts the rest of that stuff (osha, labor laws, etc) usually in a break room.  YOU should be the one calling that number. It is completely anonymous. I don't think it is directly to your HR. You tell them the issue and they will handle investigating it. It may end up being your company HR that investigates but I think it may be another state type department that does it. 

you don't want to advise this guy on anything. no one should contact your own company HR (sadly they often have a horse in the race themselves)

Basically, YOU are the one seeing something you don't think is right. YOU should contact that anonymous line and explain the situation and let it be taken over from there. 

[Mookz 1,338]

3 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Next thing they are gonna demand to see pics of the bruises on the wife after the accident.

Also demand to know her can size. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,935]

Imagine responding to this with serious replies.  Justin isn’t around? 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

2 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

no no.  Im saying there should be a number, wherever your job posts the rest of that stuff (osha, labor laws, etc) usually in a break room.  YOU should be the one calling that number. It is completely anonymous. I don't think it is directly to your HR. You tell them the issue and they will handle investigating it. It may end up being your company HR that investigates but I think it may be another state type department that does it. 

you don't want to advise this guy on anything. no one should contact your own company HR (sadly they often have a horse in the race themselves)

Basically, YOU are the one seeing something you don't think is right. YOU should contact that anonymous line and explain the situation and let it be taken over from there. 

Ah gotcha. I’ll look then Monday when I’m back at the office. I did tell the guy to go see HR and maybe an HR attorney. That’s about the extent of my knowledge when it comes this. Appreciate the help 

[nobody 2,564]

I wouldn't go to HR on this for what it's worth.  That's just asking for trouble.  

[lickin_starfish 1,893]

I used a sick-day today to stay home to sign for a delivery that I was expecting. It's my time to take, and if the company doesn't like it, then too fukkin' bad for them.

[Bill E. 703]

Hire CDub.   He works for an azzhole and is looking. 

[Fireballer 2,639]

22 hours ago, Stryker Ryker said:

My thing is, I like the guy and he’s done nothin but good work IMO. Hasn’t given me problems. Been on time every day. Leaves when he’s supposed to. Nice to everyone. Hasn’t missed work. But the MD talked to us providers and asked us what we thought about him cause he said, and I quote, “he has been going to the bathroom a lot when he works and will be in there a while”. I haven’t had that problem with him and he’s literally the ONLY one that I don’t have to track down to do his job like I do the women they’re CONSTANTLY on a smoke break and I’ve complained about that but “they’ve been here a while”. Either way, I don’t want my fav employee and the only one I can get to do actual work to be fired/quit and I’m left with just those women Hence, why I’m trying to see if it’s illegal for them to do that cause I don’t want him quitting or getting fired 

Maybe he has IBS or Chron’s

[Stryker Ryker 188]

Talked to the guy today, apparently he had a convo with the MD who demands he bring in something saying he was in a wreck. MD apparently “followed” that employee after he left the office without telling him. Tailed him in his car and said he saw him stop at a gas station. Said the lpn didn’t get out and o pump gas or go inside. Then he left & the MD doesn’t know where he went. 
 

Does this not sound completely bat Sh1t crazy to y’all???? I got an HR attorneys number from my sister to give to him cause that sounds like a major violation in South Carolina. You can’t monitor an employee off the clock & company grounds like that without consent or telling them. I also believe that extends to him checking the CAD and police departments. I’ve done my job but this whole ordeal has me considering looking elsewhere. I haven’t been here too long but if the MD is acting like (he owns the business) I don’t want anything to do with it or the workplace drama. Cause there’s ALOT here. Anyway, you guys have been solid with the advice. MD is a d1ck so if he gets sued I’d prob laugh at him 

[WhiteWonder 2,675]

1. bring back the digby handle

2. I would still find and call the anonymous line. I feel like there has to be one. Much easier to have the MD investigated and possibly terminated than to have this employee hire an attorney. Unless of course he is looking for a reason to sue someone. 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

26 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

1. bring back the digby handle

2. I would still find and call the anonymous line. I feel like there has to be one. Much easier to have the MD investigated and possibly terminated than to have this employee hire an attorney. Unless of course he is looking for a reason to sue someone. 

Can’t. Gutter mass reported it so it’s gone for good. I’m not here that often anyway to really care that much. But I’ve told him about a few things & gave him the info about attorneys. He’s gonna have to take it from here and decide what he wants to do. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

18 minutes ago, Stryker Ryker said:

Can’t. Gutter mass reported it so it’s gone for good. I’m not here that often anyway to really care that much. But I’ve told him about a few things & gave him the info about attorneys. He’s gonna have to take it from here and decide what he wants to do. 

I never reported you douche bag, stop lying

[Stryker Ryker 188]

11 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I never reported you douche bag, stop lying

Nah you did bro. It’s fine. I’m over it and not holding a grudge. Like I said, I don’t hardly come here anymore. It’s mainly turned into a political slap fight board. Even this thread is slap fights It is fun to occasionally come here & troll ppl like you do but ultimately I’d rather converse with others 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

Excellent work here, @Stryker Ryker. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

6 minutes ago, Stryker Ryker said:

Nah you did bro. It’s fine. I’m over it and not holding a grudge. Like I said, I don’t hardly come here anymore. It’s mainly turned into a political slap fight board. Even this thread is slap fights It is fun to occasionally come here & troll ppl like you do but ultimately I’d rather converse with others 

Yeah, he got me pinched a few months back too.  He can't defend his inane posts so when he gets curb-stomped as much as he does the only "win" he can get is by reporting people.

He's done it to others as well.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,935]

I don’t know why Gutterboy doesn’t just go on another recruitment drive for the sanctuary and take who he wants and go back there. I guess that place has been ruined beyond repair.