WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted October 31, 2023 not breaking but didn't see a topic on it. why are the Bears giving up high draft capital for a rental player? https://www.nfl.com/news/commanders-trading-de-montez-sweat-to-bears-for-second-round-pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 559 Posted October 31, 2023 Bad teams do bad things Good get for Washington Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,950 Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Kopy said: Bad teams do bad things Good get for Washington Yep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,912 Posted October 31, 2023 The only thing I can think of is, it’s really hard to find edge rushers of his talent. My guess is they didn’t do this deal without at least a gentleman’s agreement that they could sign him in the off-season to stay. They have plenty of cap room. as a Bears fan, it would be the most bears thing ever to give up a second round pick, and then the guy walks at the end of the year on a bad team. So certainly not ruling out that little fiasco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted October 31, 2023 As long as the Bears plan on resigning him then this is a good deal for both teams. The Bears are not getting an edge rusher as talented as Sweat with the draft pick they gave up. Now, if they could just hold on to their talented, young players like Jaylon Johnson. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,613 Posted October 31, 2023 Because it is the Bears... They don't know any better, like most of their fans... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted October 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: As long as the Bears plan on resigning him then this is a good deal for both teams. The Bears are not getting an edge rusher as talented as Sweat with the draft pick they gave up. Now, if they could just hold on to their talented, young players like Jaylon Johnson. i mean, I am sure the Bears PLAN on resigning him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted October 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: thanks. I meant here though. there's not a lot of crossover between the two forums anymore. Thats what happens when it's just a bunch of petulant children like axe elf and jkroh I do miss the days where I exclusively posted at the mange bored and you could count on good discussion and info. These days I think you are more likely to get decent insight over here as long as politics can stay out of the sports threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,807 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said: thanks. I meant here though. there's not a lot of crossover between the two forums anymore. Thats what happens when it's just a bunch of petulant children like axe elf and jkroh I do miss the days where I exclusively posted at the mange bored and you could count on good discussion and info. These days I think you are more likely to get decent insight over here as long as politics can stay out of the sports threads. I'll high five that. Weepaws fits in the petulant group... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 31, 2023 Dobbs to Vikings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,613 Posted October 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: as long as politics can stay out of the sports threads. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted October 31, 2023 I'm sure they have a plan to sign him. Otherwise it makes zero sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted October 31, 2023 Chase likely to 9ers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted October 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Dobbs to Vikings I think that was a good signing. Better than signing Winston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: I'm sure they have a plan to sign him. Otherwise it makes zero sense. I mean, I'm sure thats the plan but I am also sure it's a pretty big gamble to make with a 2nd (early) round pick. I get the feeling they would have to really overpay compared to other teams to convince him to sign to that "rebuild"... or tag him which would feel like a waste of $ on their part and would probably not sit well. Just seems like the state this franchise is in, they would be better off keeping that pick and drafting someone they can control for 4 seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,950 Posted October 31, 2023 Why do teams just give the Niners thwir best players No other team is offering a 3rd for Chase?!??! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted October 31, 2023 50 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: As long as the Bears plan on resigning him then this is a good deal for both teams. The Bears are not getting an edge rusher as talented as Sweat with the draft pick they gave up. Now, if they could just hold on to their talented, young players like Jaylon Johnson. They could’ve just signed him this off season with no draft pick spent, though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted October 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I mean, I'm sure thats the plan but I am also sure it's a pretty big gamble to make with a 2nd (early) round pick. I get the feeling they would have to really overpay compared to other teams to convince him to sign to that "rebuild"... or tag him which would feel like a waste of $ on their part and would probably not sit well. Just seems like the state this franchise is in, they would be better off keeping that pick and drafting someone they can control for 4 seasons. I'm sure they they have a deal in place with Sweat. I mean it is thr Bears but there seems no possible way they don't. They have a ton of money. They could just stay in rebuild mode. But why not? I rip the Bears but this is a good move assuming they aren't just hoping he signs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,807 Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, IGotWorms said: They could’ve just signed him this off season with no draft pick spent, though So you know the details? Do share. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted October 31, 2023 San Fran gets the younger, better player from Washington for less draft capital. He is also potentially a rental but of course, SF has aspirations right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,807 Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, listen2me 23 said: I'm sure they they have a deal in place with Sweat. I mean it is thr Bears but there seems no possible way they don't. They have a ton of money. They could just stay in rebuild mode. But why not? I Rio the Bears but this is a good move assuming they aren't just hoping he signs. It's a great move if they sign him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,807 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said: San Fran gets the younger, better player from Washington for less draft capital. He is also potentially a rental but of course, SF has aspirations right now. All you do is whine and cry. You give no details on anything. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: I'm sure they they have a deal in place with Sweat. I mean it is thr Bears but there seems no possible way they don't. They have a ton of money. They could just stay in rebuild mode. But why not? I Rio the Bears but this is a good move assuming they aren't just hoping he signs. I don't see how they could have a deal in place. mid season deadline trade, what incentive does Sweat have to agree to a handshake deal right now? It would have to be something over what his agent feels he can get on the open market in the offseason with guaranteed money in case of injury Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: All you do is whine and cry. You give no details on anything. woah, settle down, champ. How am I whining and crying? What details do you want? factual details I provided: Chase is younger than Sweat, he cost the 49ers less draft capital, Chase is also a rental player, San Fran has playoff and SB aspirations right now. what about that doesn't qualify as factual details? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 31, 2023 I'm just glad the eagles didn't get chase. Suck it Howie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted October 31, 2023 Josh Dobbs the new vikings QB 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,389 Posted October 31, 2023 Jamar Chase? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,807 Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I don't see how they could have a deal in place. mid season deadline trade, what incentive does Sweat have to agree to a handshake deal right now? It would have to be something over what his agent feels he can get on the open market in the offseason with guaranteed money in case of injury Ok. So you confirmed no deal. The Bears blew it. Sucks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I don't see how they could have a deal in place. mid season deadline trade, what incentive does Sweat have to agree to a handshake deal right now? It would have to be something over what his agent feels he can get on the open market in the offseason with guaranteed money in case of injury Hope you're right. Would be hilarious. I highly doubt it but I would laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, seafoam1 said: Ok. So you confirmed no deal. The Bears blew it. Sucks. stop being bent out of shape and reaching. No where did I say I "confirmed no deal". My entire post that you quoted is very clearly my own opinion. Any rational person reading it would agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted October 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: So you know the details? Do share. Are you actually stupid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted October 31, 2023 They probably just offered more to Sweat than he thought he could get anywhere. Still funny Chase went for a pick that is 60 picks later. Maybe Chase took a lesser deal to go play with Bosa and Sweat was after the overpay. We will have to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,105 Posted October 31, 2023 Lynch doing what he does. Young will fit in very nicely on the DLine. If it's only a rental, that's works as well, as the 9ers will likely get a 3rd round compensatory back anyway. Oops only 500k out of pocket, no brainer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,681 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: They probably just offered more to Sweat than he thought he could get anywhere. Still funny Chase went for a pick that is 60 picks later. Maybe Chase took a lesser deal to go play with Bosa and Sweat was after the overpay. We will have to see. I'm obviously not ruling out that they had a handshake deal in place and if the Bears sign him it's a fair trade for a 27 year old, very good pass rusher. Hopefully they didn't overpay by a ton. I just think there would have to be a decent overpay with guaranteed money for him to forego free agency in favor of a rebuild. Where as Chase might take less to play on a title contender with Bosa, as you said... OR San Fran might be totally fine just giving up a 3rd for a rental with no deal in place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 31, 2023 Leonard Williams to SEA. Both Redskins and Giants giving up on this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,807 Posted October 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Are you actually stupid? Ok. you are smart i guess. What are the contract details and the team deals?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted October 31, 2023 Can he play QB and throw the ball to himself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,807 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, League Champion said: Can he play QB and throw the ball to himself? Daniel Jones has proven it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
