League Champion 1,896 Posted December 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Gotcha. Yeah the instant torque is no joke. Those Plaid versions have video game numbers for speed Sold that crap for a gas guzzling SUV, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,909 Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said: You sound like a guy that casually rocks chacos Had to google that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,803 Posted December 21, 2023 This is a great development and i hope research comtinues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,419 Posted December 21, 2023 I don’t think people comprehend how this will change all lives on Earth. It’s not just climate change, though it would be nice to resolve that issue. Almost all of our current problems will be solved. World hunger and poverty, a thing of the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237 Posted December 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think people comprehend how this will change all lives on Earth. It’s not just climate change, though it would be nice to resolve that issue. Almost all of our current problems will be solved. World hunger and poverty, a thing of the past. the climate nazis will find another reason to run scams on liberals neither side will allow fusion energy to go mainstream, nobody in govt cares about solutions, with solutions they will serve no purpose 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,801 Posted December 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think people comprehend how this will change all lives on Earth. It’s not just climate change, though it would be nice to resolve that issue. Almost all of our current problems will be solved. World hunger and poverty, a thing of the past. "Climate change". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted December 21, 2023 California can't keep the lights on as it is. 20 million electric cars charging at the same time every night shouldn't be a problem. Electric cars will save the Planet Do you know the effects of lithium leach fields and lithium disposal? Climate denier, racist, white supremacist!  2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,833 Posted December 21, 2023 9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think people comprehend how this will change all lives on Earth. It’s not just climate change, though it would be nice to resolve that issue. Almost all of our current problems will be solved. World hunger and poverty, a thing of the past. Yeah we know. You guys said the same thing about the plastic bags in the '70s to save the environment too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 605 Posted December 21, 2023 If this board is around in 25 years, we'll still be talking about the latest "breakthrough" in nuclear fusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,801 Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yeah we know. You guys said the same thing about the plastic bags in the '70s to save the environment too. Libs raised a massive global cooling scare in the late 70's. They have been a bunch of dopes throughout the ages. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,483 Posted December 21, 2023 13 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: They will have to figure out how to take this unlimited power, limit it, and then charge for it before they will finish developing it. If they do not it would eliminate haves and have nots, and that is not going to happen. This Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,198 Posted December 21, 2023 11 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: the climate nazis will find another reason to run scams on liberals neither side will allow fusion energy to go mainstream, nobody in govt cares about solutions, with solutions they will serve no purpose I don't think our government is anxious drop the ball on something this big. There's going to be corruption to be had though. We'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,198 Posted December 21, 2023 13 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: They will have to figure out how to take this unlimited power, limit it, and then charge for it before they will finish developing it. If they do not it would eliminate haves and have nots, and that is not going to happen. The chance that this comes to pass is disturbingly high given how anything is done in this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted December 21, 2023 You can always tell the people who have no clue about actual science. Reads a 200 word press release... THROW AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE AT THIS!!!! IT WILL SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM IN THE WORLD!!!! SCIENCE!!!! Same folks that forced covid jabs on everyone, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted December 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, nobody said: You can always tell the people who have no clue about actual science. Reads a 200 word press release... THROW AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE AT THIS!!!! IT WILL SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM IN THE WORLD!!!! SCIENCE!!!! Same folks that forced covid jabs on everyone as well, of course. You're 100% correct. You can sell these dumbarses anything! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,488 Posted December 21, 2023 12 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t think people comprehend how this will change all lives on Earth. It’s not just climate change, though it would be nice to resolve that issue. Almost all of our current problems will be solved. World hunger and poverty, a thing of the past. Why do you pretend to know about everything? You don't know anything about fusion reactions or how it will change the world, stfu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said: Why do you pretend to know about everything? You don't know anything about fusion reactions or how it will change the world, stfu I'm trying to put a deposit down on a ready to build ocean front Gaza Strip Condo and this a-hole is worried about Nuclear Fusion. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,419 Posted December 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Why do you pretend to know about everything? You don't know anything about fusion reactions or how it will change the world, stfu You really sound like quite the moron. Congrats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted December 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You really sound like quite the moron. Congrats? You may not know dog pisss about Nuclear Fusion but you certainly know about Asian Fusion. Liberals love that shizz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,198 Posted December 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Why do you pretend to know about everything? You don't know anything about fusion reactions or how it will change the world, stfu I seriously doubt he knows anything more than the layman basics of nuclear fusion, but we can all read the progress the scientists working on it report as well as the claims they are making. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,488 Posted December 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You really sound like quite the moron. Congrats? How will it change the world? Answer fast so we know you didn't Google Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,488 Posted December 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I seriously doubt he knows anything more than the layman basics of nuclear fusion, but we can all read the progress the scientists working on it report as well as the claims they are making. Kinda like everyone does with global warming even though no one knows wtf they're talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,198 Posted December 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: How will it change the world? Answer fast so we know you didn't Google If a system can produce more energy than it takes in, at large enough scale, it can produce more and more and more energy... whatever we need. Also, you can measure it directly. If you put X energy in to make the reaction happen and got X+Y out after the reaction, well, you can put that X back in to make more energy and use the Y to power the world. All the energy you need theoretically but at that point, see if/how greed and government come along to fock everything up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,097 Posted December 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Thornton Melon said: If this board is around in 25 years, we'll still be talking about the latest "breakthrough" in nuclear fusion. And I'll be credited with this world-changing event, just like Al Gore and the internet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,488 Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Voltaire said: If a system can produce more energy than it takes in, at large enough scale, it can produce more and more and more energy... whatever we need. Also, you can measure it directly. If you put X energy in to make the reaction happen and got X+Y out after the reaction, well, you can put that X back in to make more energy and use the Y to power the world. All the energy you need theoretically but at that point, see if/how greed and government come along to fock everything up. That question was for Tim, he's a dumbazz, you're not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted December 21, 2023 It's a huge competitive advantage so there would be resistance to sharing it.  The energy consumption of bitcoin mining becomes a complete non-issue The revenue streams of the middle east dry up and those nations whither and die. They'll be back to chopping each other's heads off as their primary industry. Except Iran has nukes, so as the famines start setting in, and the governments destabilize, the US will have to step in and fight a war to disarm them. Space travel will become more efficient as fusion reactors will power rockets. As harnessing fusion becomes more attainable, weapons will become more lethal. We can probably expect China to strap something to a hyper sonic, so the US will have to do it first. My expectation is a new level of arms race will follow. For countries that do have sustainable energy, containing the reaction is huge problem. Someone will mess that up and the first few reactors will destroy themselves. This will cause the government to regulate it to death.  Law of unintended consequences. I'm sure we'll figure out a way to destroy ourselves with this wonderful achievement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,419 Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, iam90sbaby said: That question was for Tim, he's a dumbazz, you're not Sorry the dumbazz was busy.  Let’s start with this concept: imagine all the energy that New York City uses in a single day- all of the electrical power. Now imagine that all of that energy could be produced with a single glass filled with water- one cup. Thats how nuclear fusion was explained to me by my cousin, who works at the Livermore Labs- he was a Cal Tech grad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted December 21, 2023 I think this free energy concept is dumb though. Insulin costs what to make? 10 cents per dose? Doesn't that 1 company that has a patent on the insulin gouge the hell out of everybody? If a company did develop a reliable delivery mechanism, they'll want to recoup the billions and billions of development cost which means they'll undercut traditional power companies to put them out of business and then jack up everyone's prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,419 Posted December 21, 2023 You don’t need to be a nuclear physicist to understand the implications: a source of energy so cheap and limitless and safe that it will replace everything else. For those who understand the reference, this is John Galt’s motor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted December 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You don’t need to be a nuclear physicist to understand the implications: a source of energy so cheap and limitless and safe that it will replace everything else. For those who understand the reference, this is John Galt’s motor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted December 21, 2023 I guess the way you would have to do it is some smart guys come up with some awesome power generation scheme. They would want to use the existing infrastructure to deliver. That would probably look like companies like AEP leasing that infrastructure. But sure, I mean we can dream about free power. I'm sure these power tycoons will give it away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,419 Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, nobody said: I guess the way you would have to do it is some smart guys come up with some awesome power generation scheme. They would want to use the existing infrastructure to deliver. That would probably look like companies like AEP leasing that infrastructure. But sure, I mean we can dream about free power. Our entire infrastructure will be replaced. Everything. That’s why I said the whole world will change.  The best analogy that comes to mind is the creation of the automobile and its production, by Henry Ford, for mass use. That changed every aspect of world culture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted December 21, 2023 Why would we replace our entire infrastructure?  Electricity is electricity. At the end of the day, we need wires to carry it around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted December 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, nobody said: I guess the way you would have to do it is some smart guys come up with some awesome power generation scheme. They would want to use the existing infrastructure to deliver. That would probably look like companies like AEP leasing that infrastructure. But sure, I mean we can dream about free power. I'm sure these power tycoons will give it away. I think the idea is there’d be no infrastructure as everything could have its own built in power generation. I believe? But anyway it’s obviously nowhere near that scalable and won’t be for decades. Still pretty exciting though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted December 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I think the idea is there’d be no infrastructure as everything could have its own built in power generation. I believe? But anyway it’s obviously nowhere near that scalable and won’t be for decades. Still pretty exciting though We're talking about reactions that need magnetic fields to hold it because if the byproducts of this process touches any known substance in the world, it melts it and then destroys everything around it. These aren't going to be in people's homes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,419 Posted December 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, nobody said: Why would we replace our entire infrastructure?  Electricity is electricity. At the end of the day, we need wires to carry it around. We may not need wires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: We may not need wires. I think you guys are letting your imaginations run wild. It's a way to generate power. It's not a new power delivery system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,419 Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, nobody said: I think you guys are letting your imaginations run wild. It's a way to generate power. It's not a new power delivery system. Look, as someone crudely pointed out above, I’m no scientist. I only understand this very vaguely, and simply, in very general layman’s terms.  But I do understand, I think, that it’s going to change all the rules. It’s going to create whole new technologies, new ways of thinking and doing things that we can’t quite envision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,097 Posted December 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: We may not need wires. Where we're going, we won't need roads! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted December 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: that we can’t quite envision. Like Windmills Share this post Link to post Share on other sites