Liberalism Explained

[nobody 2,621]

34 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

When virtue signaling and stupidity collide.  

Reminds me of the time the Huffington Post bragged on Twitter about its “diversity”.

I remember trying to explain that to someone maybe 8 years ago when they were grading nba front offices on diversity.   People think diversity means no white males.  

Unfortunately, when the wokesters realized they weren't diverse at all, they started clamoring to hire the lgtqa folk to fill the diversity quotas.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

3 minutes ago, nobody said:

I remember trying to explain that to someone maybe 8 years ago when they were grading nba front offices on diversity.   People think diversity means no white males.  

Unfortunately, when the wokesters realized they weren't diverse at all, they started clamoring to hire the lgtqa folk to fill the diversity quotas.

That’s the thing - the Left doesn’t really want diversity.  They want women, blacks, gays, trannies, Muslims, Leftists… basically anyone except white, Christian, male, or God-forbid - Conservative.  

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

3 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

When virtue signaling and stupidity collide.  

Reminds me of the time the Huffington Post bragged on Twitter about its “diversity”.

Does anyone need more proof that leftist white woman are our republic’s greatest threat? I’m starting to understand the board leftists a bit more. They are all married to these miserable hags and they get no sects unless they play along with their insane beliefs. It’s a form of Stockholm syndrome. 

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On 12/29/2023 at 4:01 PM, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Tim can say that because he doesn't live there and doesn't affect him.  It's the NIMBY effect.  As long as the liberal policies affect others, they're good.  Once it starts affecting them, then its OMG!!!

yep.  ask Chicago & New York about declaring they are sanctuary cities & welcome with open arms illegal immigrants.

They were all liberal feely good statements at the time.  Until they got their wish.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

12 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Does anyone need more proof that leftist white woman are our republic’s greatest threat? I’m starting to understand the board leftists a bit more. They are all married to these miserable hags and they get no sects unless they play along with their insane beliefs. It’s a form of Stockholm syndrome. 

Thing is - I expect whites women to be crazy.  Hormones and all.  It’s the faggety white Liberal men that I have the most disdain for.  They are the worst people on the planet.

[RLLD 4,180]

7 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It's racist to paint a group of people with a particular religious belief as untrustworthy.

No, that is just another common misappplication of the term. 
 

in this instance you need to revert to the Islamophobia tactic. Islam is a religion and not a race, Islam is comprised of many races

it can be complicated when trying to toss these labels around

[RLLD 4,180]

I think I found something that depicts Liberals succinctly and perfectly....

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1bVB2WPMAE/?igsh=MWVyZG5wYTRyNWc3cg%3D%3D

[Fnord 2,135]

On 12/29/2023 at 3:58 PM, RLLD said:

They should have voted for the best people.

How do you know they didn't? Hindsight is great and all; I once thought Trump had a chance at being a mediocre president. Hindsight allows me to see the truth, that he is a walking, talking, constitutional crisis. So, while I'm not defending any stance here, might your opinion be a bit disingenuous?

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7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

How do you know they didn't? Hindsight is great and all; I once thought Trump had a chance at being a mediocre president. Hindsight allows me to see the truth, that he is a walking, talking, constitutional crisis. So, while I'm not defending any stance here, might your opinion be a bit disingenuous?

Yeah, he’s the one that disregarded the Supreme Court and also played games with the asylum and parole process. 

[RLLD 4,180]

21 minutes ago, Fnord said:

How do you know they didn't? Hindsight is great and all; I once thought Trump had a chance at being a mediocre president. Hindsight allows me to see the truth, that he is a walking, talking, constitutional crisis. So, while I'm not defending any stance here, might your opinion be a bit disingenuous?

I used their words as my indication......

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I would encourage all to really watch the video above, it has some decent insights....and it was remarkable to watch the most militant white liberal espouse his racism so freely and without remorse, and then to be called out on it.

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

Liberalism represents the rejection both of extreme leftism and extreme rightism, and especially a rejection of populism and nationalism , bigotry and xenophobia. Liberalism is synonymous with freedom and the American experience. 

[RLLD 4,180]

18 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Liberalism represents the rejection both of extreme leftism and extreme rightism, and especially a rejection of populism and nationalism , bigotry and xenophobia. Liberalism is synonymous with freedom and the American experience. 

I think your vision of it is nice. I only wish the application was congruent.   But your depiction is less true today than it has ever been

[TheNewGirl 1,422]

18 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Liberalism represents the rejection both of extreme leftism and extreme rightism, and especially a rejection of populism and nationalism , bigotry and xenophobia. Liberalism is synonymous with freedom and the American experience. 

Freedom to not be doxxed and canceled if you do what we say or vote how we want. 

This is such a joke. 

[RLLD 4,180]

57 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Freedom to not be doxxed and canceled if you do what we say or vote how we want. 

This is such a joke. 

In reading history, the parallels between modern Liberalism and the extremes prior to WWII are remarkable.   

For example, consider reading War without Mercy: Race and Power in the Pacific War  by John Dower.....the behaviors of pre-WWII Japanese are rather similar to modern liberals....and as we observe their behaviors toward Jews we can see that there is an element of them that also shares some of the per-war German values too

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

38 minutes ago, RLLD said:

In reading history, the parallels between modern Liberalism and the extremes prior to WWII are remarkable.   

For example, consider reading War without Mercy: Race and Power in the Pacific War  by John Dower.....the behaviors of pre-WWII Japanese are rather similar to modern liberals....and as we observe their behaviors toward Jews we can see that there is an element of them that also shares some of the per-war German values too

Wow. That is really bizarre. I guess the Rape of Nanking strikes you as typical liberal behavior? lol. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

1 hour ago, TheNewGirl said:

Freedom to not be doxxed and canceled if you do what we say or vote how we want. 

This is such a joke. 

Let’s parse this out: 

1. Doxxing should be illegal. Anyone who does it should be spending a few days in jail, IMO. It’s no part of liberalism. There are some awful people on “my side” who do this. But I’m pretty sure there are also awful folks on “your side” who do it too. 
 

2. I have no problem with cancelling so long as government isn’t involved. That is if someone turns out to be an abuser of women, a pedophile, a racist, a bigot, etc, I don’t mind people electing of their own free will not to see their movies, spend money on their products, etc. I don’t watch Mel Gibson or Woody Allen movies any longer for this reason: I have determined that both guys are awful human beings and they’re not going to get any more of my hard earned money: But I don’t have the right to speak for anyone else. 
 

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15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Wow. That is really bizarre. I guess the Rape of Nanking strikes you as typical liberal behavior? lol. 

At first I thought you might be referencing Takashi Yoshida, and too often I miss the subtext, but in this instance I see your strawman so lets nip that and avoid such mewling.

Instead, I prefer to suggest that the similarities which exist between pre-war Japan and modern liberals remains a little too tight; but just as important is the solid link between modern liberalism and Maoism.

Watching history repeat itself, notably the leftist movement against Jews.....should be troubling in and of itself, but when taken in context with the rest of the doctrine, we should be rather concerned.

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19 minutes ago, RLLD said:

At first I thought you might be referencing Takashi Yoshida, and too often I miss the subtext, but in this instance I see your strawman so lets nip that and avoid such mewling.

Instead, I prefer to suggest that the similarities which exist between pre-war Japan and modern liberals remains a little too tight; but just as important is the solid link between modern liberalism and Maoism.

Watching history repeat itself, notably the leftist movement against Jews.....should be troubling in and of itself, but when taken in context with the rest of the doctrine, we should be rather concerned.

Weird, go to any Trump loving board and the jew hate is right out in the open.

Heck, look at this very board.

Saying that liberals don't like jews because some college kids feel bad for palestine is so disingenuous you make my head hurt.

You want blatant racism against jews and minorities?  Visit ANY MAGA board.  I offer you this one as an example. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,966]

35 minutes ago, RLLD said:

At first I thought you might be referencing Takashi Yoshida, and too often I miss the subtext, but in this instance I see your strawman so lets nip that and avoid such mewling.

Instead, I prefer to suggest that the similarities which exist between pre-war Japan and modern liberals remains a little too tight; but just as important is the solid link between modern liberalism and Maoism.

Watching history repeat itself, notably the leftist movement against Jews.....should be troubling in and of itself, but when taken in context with the rest of the doctrine, we should be rather concerned.

The American left has much, much more in common with Mao and Stalin than they do with actual liberalism.   Today's liberals are much, much more extreme, zealous and dogmatic in their views. 

That's not even debatable anymore.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,966]

16 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Weird, go to any Trump loving board and the jew hate is right out in the open.

Heck, look at this very board.

Saying that liberals don't like jews because some college kids feel bad for palestine is so disingenuous you make my head hurt.

You want blatant racism against jews and minorities?  Visit ANY MAGA board.  I offer you this one as an example. 

Gaslighting at it's finest!  

I mean, there are liars and then there's Ravens Fool.

[RLLD 4,180]

14 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Weird, go to any Trump loving board and the jew hate is right out in the open.

Heck, look at this very board.

Saying that liberals don't like jews because some college kids feel bad for palestine is so disingenuous you make my head hurt.

You want blatant racism against jews and minorities?  Visit ANY MAGA board.  I offer you this one as an example. 

I am disinclined to frequent a place such as you have mentioned, but perhaps those sites are simply filled with some of the folks we see out there every day in the streets; the fringe of the left and right seem to agree about jews, but only one is getting away with espousing that mentality....thankfully.

I do not discount that there are those, even among us on this forearm, who perhaps do not care for people based on attributes.  I see it all too often. From white people to jews to christians...there is little restraint when attacking these groups.

Rather than pretend there is no problem, I might encourage you to ensure you stand in solidarity against this radicalization.

I need not visit any board to see hate, i can turn on CNN or MSNBC or perhaps just walk through Harvard.....

[Fnord 2,135]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

The American left has much, much more in common with Mao and Stalin than they do with actual liberalism.   Today's liberals are much, much more extreme, zealous and dogmatic in their views. 

That's not even debatable anymore.

JFC. And the American right is echoing mid-1930s Germany. If Trump could read anything other than a teleprompter, he'd be plagiarizing Mein Kampf.

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3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

The American left has much, much more in common with Mao and Stalin than they do with actual liberalism.   Today's liberals are much, much more extreme, zealous and dogmatic in their views. 

That's not even debatable anymore.

That is an absurd statement. Please. 

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Just some college kids, and all of San Francisco

 

Looks like a liberal geek meet up.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,966]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

JFC. And the American right is echoing mid-1930s Germany. If Trump could read anything other than a teleprompter, he'd be plagiarizing Mein Kampf.

Sure, sure. 

Just now, squistion said:

That is an absurd statement. Please. 

Every post you make affirms my claim.  You're one of the worst - if not THE worst - lefty zealots posting here.  You 100% have more in common with Mao and Stalin.  

[squistion 2,058]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Sure, sure. 

Every post you make affirms my claim.  You're one of the worst - if not THE worst - lefty zealots posting here.  You 100% have more in common with Mao and Stalin.  

Than who, Hitler or Mussolini?

Mao and Stalin were ruthless dictators responsible for millions of deaths. There is nothing in current liberal ideology (like from Biden and Democratic Party) that in any way resembles their policies. 

[Raven Fan 362]

12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I am disinclined to frequent a place such as you have mentioned, but perhaps those sites are simply filled with some of the folks we see out there every day in the streets; the fringe of the left and right seem to agree about jews, but only one is getting away with espousing that mentality....thankfully.

I do not discount that there are those, even among us on this forearm, who perhaps do not care for people based on attributes.  I see it all too often. From white people to jews to christians...there is little restraint when attacking these groups.

Rather than pretend there is no problem, I might encourage you to ensure you stand in solidarity against this radicalization.

I need not visit any board to see hate, i can turn on CNN or MSNBC or perhaps just walk through Harvard.....

lol those places have nothing on hate.  Visit a MAGA filled board if you want to see real hate.

Heck, there are posters here who call every minority in a position of power or success a DEI hire.  There are posters here who won't see any non-white male professionals, pilots, doctors, etc.

The alt right owns 80% of the hate my friend.

Do you not read this very board?  Please compare what I just described to any "hate" you get from liberals.

Deflection coming in 1....2....3

[Raven Fan 362]

18 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

The American left has much, much more in common with Mao and Stalin than they do with actual liberalism.   Today's liberals are much, much more extreme, zealous and dogmatic in their views. 

That's not even debatable anymore.

Examples from this very board please. 

[Raven Fan 362]

17 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Gaslighting at it's finest!  

I mean, there are liars and then there's Ravens Fool.

Would you like to see some examples from our MAGA brethren boyo?

Minorities in positions of power are DEI hires.  Won't got to a non-white professional.

How does that truth grab you boyo?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,966]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Than who, Hitler or Mussolini?

Mao and Stalin were ruthless dictators responsible for millions of deaths. There is nothing in current liberal ideology (like from Biden and Democratic Party) that in any way resembles their policies. 

Don't know why your arguing with me.  It's not even debatable that you and your side are that close to them.

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

16 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

The American left has much, much more in common with Mao and Stalin than they do with actual liberalism.   Today's liberals are much, much more extreme, zealous and dogmatic in their views. 

That's not even debatable anymore.

I really don’t think you’ve read much about Mao or Stalin or you couldn’t possibly write something so ridiculous. 

Mao and Stalin, two of the most evil mass murderers in history, ruled over totalitarian collectivist societies. They liquidated whole classes of people, and starved millions. Their rule, while they lived, was absolute. 

I invite you to demonstrate any American Democrat, no matter how extreme you think they are, who has ever said or done anything to indicate commonality with Mao or Stalin. I don’t believe you can. But please go ahead and provide examples to prove your assertion. 

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On 1/9/2024 at 1:56 PM, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

with feelings got it, youre right, he will put all your liberals tears on display and stomp his feet but judge hes hitler

 

of course seeing this its good to know the judges are partisan hacks who dont know constitutional law.  prob DEI hires

 

On 1/7/2024 at 1:53 PM, jerryskids said:

If that is the extent of her resume, then for the job of president of Harvard University, that is a DEI hire.  Her academic record is incredibly sparse.

Also, your post omitted the fact that her family in Haiti was uber rich.  This is what the Left considers diversity:  admit and/or hire uber rich POC.

As a bonus, giving a "best dissertation" award to a paper riddled with plagiarism is also a DEI award.

 

On 1/5/2024 at 5:37 PM, Cdub100 said:

flying a plane, I prefer a male non DEI hirer They make better pilots by far.

your doctor, definitely white male. I know for a fact they scored well and passed board exams without the help of DEI

your lawyer, Same as Doctor

your stock broker, Had a Jew steal a lot of money (high 6 figures) so that's a no they have caused me a lot of pain and that's not even talking about the terrible social policies they push.

Anyway, I will continue to notice..

Took two seconds to show just how repulsive and racist most MAGAtards are.

I could do the same thing with hating on jews.

Embrace those you share the same political thoughts with boyos!

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

8 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

 

 

 

I could do the same thing with hating on jews.

 

Not really. Only two guys around here, @Cdub100 and @Casual Observer, have shown a proclivity for Jew hatred. The other conservatives have not, but most of them are silent on the issue, sadly, if the hatred comes from someone on “their side”. 
 

Incidentally this is one of my biggest issues with today’s conservatives: I don’t believe most of them are bigots, but they are willing to tolerate bigots in their midst. Beginning, of course, with the man they want to return to the White House. 

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26 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

lol those places have nothing on hate.  Visit a MAGA filled board if you want to see real hate.

Heck, there are posters here who call every minority in a position of power or success a DEI hire.  There are posters here who won't see any non-white male professionals, pilots, doctors, etc.

The alt right owns 80% of the hate my friend.

Do you not read this very board?  Please compare what I just described to any "hate" you get from liberals.

Deflection coming in 1....2....3

I need not visit any bored to observe hate, I need only turn on the news....and listen to Democrats and their puppets in the media....if I were inclined to such nonsense.  Hate is not exclusive to any specific group or area.....though it is allowed for those on the left, which tends to encourage its practice.

I think you are cross-pollenating to some extent with your examples.   

Pretending there is not hate emanating from the left makes you seem somewhat disingenuous.

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23 hours ago, RLLD said:

 

I watched this one... and another one with LGBTQ conservatives and liberals.  In both videos, guess which one was the hateful, demanding, pompous bigot?  Yup, you guessed it... the white liberal.  LOL

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, RLLD said:

I need not visit any bored to observe hate, I need only turn on the news....and listen to Democrats and their puppets in the media....if I were inclined to such nonsense.  Hate is not exclusive to any specific group or area.....though it is allowed for those on the left, which tends to encourage its practice.

I think you are cross-pollenating to some extent with your examples.   

Pretending there is not hate emanating from the left makes you seem somewhat disingenuous.

What do you think of the three quick posts I quoted calling non-whites in positions of power DEI hirs?

That's not hate in your book?

[RLLD 4,180]

5 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

What do you think of the three quick posts I quoted calling non-whites in positions of power DEI hirs?

That's not hate in your book?

Can you link to the posts you reference? I rolled up but I did not notice them. I would welcome the opportunity to learn something new.

I am disinclined to equivocate, as the university presidents did, when a simple topic arises.  So before reading posts, I will say that even though hateful rhetoric is something to disdain, I support the rights of people to do it.....so as with these vile Palestidiot supporters....I think they should be able to march and support their agenda, and where it crosses the line they can then be held accountable.  Pretty simple really. 

So if you mean to suggest that calling non-whites in positions of power DEI hires is hateful....no, it is not.   In fact, when it arises that someone tells us this is exactly what they did, I think we should be in lock step to oppose it.   It has been wrong to do this all along, pretending its now good is just not something I can get behind.

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22 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

 

 

Took two seconds to show just how repulsive and racist most MAGAtards are.

I could do the same thing with hating on jews.

Embrace those you share the same political thoughts with boyos!

Thanks for being an idiot, it will help in my discussion with @Fnord.

Hey Fnord, check this out.  This is an example of where "woke" jumped the shark from "respect and acceptance".  I had a discussion recently with Raven Fan where I argued that thinking Claudine Gay was DEI does NOT mean you think that all minority hires are DEI.  Above he quoted where I provided examples.  But in the woke world, there can be no nuance.  Slingblade here will brook no defiance to the orthodoxy -- I am now a MAGA racist.  Wheeee!!!!!

Anyway, I do appreciate your post in that other thread, and I'll get back over there for a longer response as time allows.  I just wanted to point this out.