Hardcore troubadour 14,941 Posted February 20, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Please make your argument why World War 3 would be more likely under a liberal President. So why did you say it was ok for illegals to be bumping veterans for health services es at the VA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted February 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said: Here is a specific. You’re a totalitarians wet dream. ep 14, 2022 Add bookmark #630 FairWarning said: Were there people who lost their jobs on the railways if they didn’t get the vax? I would have fired them. https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/the-joe-biden-thread-things-are-looking-up.805384/post-24188962 Gross Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted February 20, 2024 Roughly 2.5 more wars going on in Europe and the ME now, compared to when the other guy was in office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 27 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So why did you say it was ok for illegals to be bumping veterans for health services es at the VA? I didn’t. I wrote that undocumented immigrants who are veterans should be given veteran benefits. If they are not veterans I am still in favor of giving them whatever services are available but not at the expense of veterans. Do you have evidence of veterans being actually turned away? Or is this just conjecture? If they are actually being turned away that is wrong. But I’m skeptical that’s actually happened; please show me. Also why do you keep switching topics? How is this connected to anything we’ve been discussing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 11 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Gross Sorry you feel that way. I think all of the unnecessary deaths, hundreds of thousands of them, that have occurred because people refused to take the Covid vaccine, is pretty gross myself. But to each their own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Roughly 2.5 more wars going on in Europe and the ME now, compared to when the other guy was in office. Pretty simplistic way of looking at things. I believe that both the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the actions by Hamas can be traced back to Trump’s incompetence as President. Would you like to discuss this in detail? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted February 20, 2024 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Sorry you feel that way. I think all of the unnecessary deaths, hundreds of thousands of them, that have occurred because people refused to take the Covid vaccine, is pretty gross myself. But to each their own. The vaccine didn't stop the spread. Then you go on to say you don't care if your mexican day laborers are vaxed because its only a few hours at a time. But say you would fire railroad workers if it was up to you. Holy hell. You don't realize how much of a dope you sound like? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted February 20, 2024 11 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Roughly 2.5 more wars going on in Europe and the ME now, compared to when the other guy was in office. 2.5 more wars? And has the US president been held responsible for every war across the globe or is that just a cultist thing trying to slam Biden? The former guy lost way more troops than the current guy btw. No US soldiers in active combat zones anymore thanks to Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted February 20, 2024 Just now, BeachGuy23 said: 2.5 more wars? And has the US president been held responsible for every war across the globe or is that just a cultist thing trying to slam Biden? The former guy lost way more troops than the current guy btw. No US soldiers in active combat zones anymore thanks to Biden. It was a simple factual statement. Sorry it bothered you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 In the case of the Middle East, Trump made three disastrous decisions: moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, negotiating the Abraham Accords without any Palestinian involvement or recognition of their concerns, and giving carte blanche to the Netanyahu government’s policy of expanding settlements. These policies almost guaranteed the Hamas attack on Israel and the no win situation we find ourselves in now. In the case of Ukraine Trump encouraged Putin and attempted to blackmail Ukraine in exchange for fake info on his opponent. These actions caused Putin to miscalculate how we would react if Ukraine was invaded. If Trump is elected again he will again encourage Putin to invade Poland, which really would threaten World War 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,490 Posted February 20, 2024 Tim made a safe space what a loser 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 8 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: The vaccine didn't stop the spread. Then you go on to say you don't care if your mexican day laborers are vaxed because its only a few hours at a time. But say you would fire railroad workers if it was up to you. Holy hell. You don't realize how much of a dope you sound like? The vaccine heavily slowed down the spread and would have stopped it if people hadn’t refused to take it. You’re just wrong here, and your position caused many unnecessary deaths in real time. My periodic use of day laborers is irrelevant to this topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Tim made a safe space what a loser It’s safe for you not to enter if you choose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted February 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Sorry you feel that way. I think all of the unnecessary deaths, hundreds of thousands of them, that have occurred because people refused to take the Covid vaccine, is pretty gross myself. But to each their own. Keep gobbling up that diarrhea from whoever you get your info from. No different than any version of the flu. The jabs never worked. There is ZERO proof that they worked but there is definite proof that they have caused blood clots, heart issues and death. You're really stupid. See billtard gates response to the virus, tardboy. The quote is accurate, and comes from a conversation Gates had with Fareed Zakaria at the 92nd Street Y, a nonprofit cultural and community center in New York City, to promote his new book, How to Prevent the Next Pandemic. During the May 3 conversation, Gates talked about the early days of the pandemic when the coronavirus variant about to sweep the world was not yet well understood. Gates said: “It wasn’t until early February, when I was in a meeting that experts at the [Gates] Foundation said there’s no way, you know, this, there’s been way too much travel without diagnosis for us to contain this. And then, at that point we didn’t really understand the fatality rate, you know, we didn’t understand that it’s a fairly low fatality rate and that it’s a disease mainly of the elderly, kind of like the flu, although a bit different than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 16 minutes ago, lod001 said: Keep gobbling up that diarrhea from whoever you get your info from. No different than any version of the flu. The jabs never worked. There is ZERO proof that they worked but there is definite proof that they have caused blood clots, heart issues and death. You're really stupid. See billtard gates response to the virus, tardboy. The quote is accurate, and comes from a conversation Gates had with Fareed Zakaria at the 92nd Street Y, a nonprofit cultural and community center in New York City, to promote his new book, How to Prevent the Next Pandemic. During the May 3 conversation, Gates talked about the early days of the pandemic when the coronavirus variant about to sweep the world was not yet well understood. Gates said: “It wasn’t until early February, when I was in a meeting that experts at the [Gates] Foundation said there’s no way, you know, this, there’s been way too much travel without diagnosis for us to contain this. And then, at that point we didn’t really understand the fatality rate, you know, we didn’t understand that it’s a fairly low fatality rate and that it’s a disease mainly of the elderly, kind of like the flu, although a bit different than that. Well here are some facts from the Mayo Clinic: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859 That’s the “wherever” I get my info from. I trust them, and all of the other medical experts, far more than some edited interview with Bill Gates. But hey that’s just me. You believe what you want. I know there are a lot of people out there that reject science and facts. I don’t get it, but it’s a free country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 Good news for San Francisco: businesses are returning in large numbers: https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-some-tech-leaders-returning-ai-boom-talent-2024-2?amp I tried to tell you guys that the problems were only temporary. In the long run California is still the most vibrant economy in the U.S., amd potentially on Earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 We need to continue to keep leftists out of California. But also idiots like Trump and DeSantis types. So long as we’re continued to be governed by a moderate liberal majority: pro-business, pro-immigrant, pro-woke- we will continue to prosper and be the envy of every other state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted February 20, 2024 28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: We need to continue to keep leftists out of California. But also idiots like Trump and DeSantis types. So long as we’re continued to be governed by a moderate liberal majority: pro-business, pro-immigrant, pro-woke- we will continue to prosper and be the envy of every other state. Another self inflicted TDS "victim". Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 1 hour ago, seafoam1 said: Another self inflicted TDS "victim". Sad. This seems to be a theme these days. Do most liberals have some sort of TDS? Obviously yes. But that is not of our own choosing. We certainly didn’t want Republicans to nominate him again for the Presidency. We would have preferred you nominate somebody else, anyone else. What surprises me is that only just over a year ago, nearly 100% of the conservatives I knew and encountered both in real life and on line had the same attitude: almost all of you guys still agreed with Trump’s policy positions, you approved of him as President, you felt defensive on his behalf against liberal criticism and charges of criminality, but you were also embarrassed by him, tired of his shtick, and eager to move on to somebody younger and newer. I truly believe most conservatives felt this way. Yet when the time has come to actually choose an alternative you guys folded, you went back to the well rather quietly. And that’s the part I have trouble understanding. What makes it even harder to understand is that I know most of you guys despise Biden and really want to see him gone. Yet you managed to choose the one guy that Biden can defeat. Let’s face it, even I admit that Nikki Haley would destroy Biden in a one on one contest. But Trump vs Biden will be neck and neck and I frankly expect Joe to win that. I wouldn’t favor him against anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Rather than link some dude looking for conspiracy theories, why not go directly to the source if you have questions about it? https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/coronavirus--covid-19--and-blood-donation.html There’s no secrets here. Nothing scary. The Red Cross needs to know which vaccine you received so that they match it with blood type. It took about 10 seconds for me to look that up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted February 20, 2024 18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This seems to be a theme these days. It does. But that makes sense because it needed Trump to inflict the TDS in the first place. Ever since he became president the sickness in liberals spread like wildfire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,588 Posted February 20, 2024 Always wanted clarification on the cocktail . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Always wanted clarification on the cocktail . Yeah there are certain topics that some of you guys choose to raise that I have no interest in discussing, mainly because they’re so stupid and ugly. Paul Pelosi being complicit in his attack is one. Joe Biden being a pedophile is another. Michelle Obama being a guy, transgenders being likely to be mass shooters, Trump won the last election, . etc. etc. Don’t waste my time with this nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dozer FBG 324 Posted February 20, 2024 2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Hey, I don’t give a chit if you get vaxed or not. And neither does the Red Cross if you’re willing to donate blood: “If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate… In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine as long as they are symptom free and feeling well at the time of donation.” That screenshot is associated with some kind of fast pass system on the Red Cross website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,588 Posted February 20, 2024 7 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said: Hey, I don’t give a chit if you get vaxed or not. And neither does the Red Cross if you’re willing to donate blood: “If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate… In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine as long as they are symptom free and feeling well at the time of donation.” That screenshot is associated with some kind of fast pass system on the Red Cross website. Seems odd that they want to know the manufacturer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dozer FBG 324 Posted February 20, 2024 6 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Seems odd that they want to know the manufacturer They need to know which operating system your chip has. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 21, 2024 Regarding the Presidential rankings, I don’t put any stalk into any of the 21st century selections. I think the minimum time to rank a President should be around 20 years. Thus Bill Clinton becomes the last one we can rank, barely. Too soon for all the others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,588 Posted February 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Dozer FBG said: They need to know which operating system your chip has. Luckily I’m not running to new OS. Never was boosted with the later updates after the initial two. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,803 Posted February 21, 2024 33 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Regarding the Presidential rankings, I don’t put any stalk into any of the 21st century selections. I think the minimum time to rank a President should be around 20 years. Thus Bill Clinton becomes the last one we can rank, barely. Too soon for all the others. #1 GOAT - Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,941 Posted February 21, 2024 Pretty funny that twenty years after Clinton left office, with his wife as the nominee for his party, they had to disavow all his accomplishments and distance themselves from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,588 Posted February 21, 2024 This can’t be fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted February 21, 2024 6 minutes ago, HellToupee said: This can’t be fixed So you have no solution to propose? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 339 Posted February 21, 2024 9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I used that phrase very specifically to describe Trump’s practice of overvaluing his properties. Hardcore pointed out, correctly, that many if not most wealthy property owners do this. But the amounts are relative: perhaps a 3 million dollar property is valued at 4 million, or an 8 million dollar building is valued at 12 million. But Trump did things like trying to make a 4 million dollar property valued at 50 million. That’s why I wrote that he was taking a common practice and carrying it to an extreme. Nothing psychopathic about my point. You say he took it to the extreme, perhaps he did. That's why the banks do due diligence so they can make their own determinations. I've audited banks earlier in my career, have a real estate license, rental properties, the whole nine yards so I'm pretty educated on what they do. It's hard to believe no other developer in the entire state of NY did similar things, and if they did, where are the other charges? I find it impossible to believe it's only Trump. And if so, I'd like to know how his specific case came to light without a victim's complaint. It begs the question, why did they look at Trump's transactions, likely Trump's alone? To me that stinks of political persecution more than anything. It's also pretty odd to prosecute someone where there isn't a victim nor damages. The supposed victim in this case would have to be the banks themselves, none of which claim any damage from it and in fact want to continue to do business with him. Either way, it's a significant departure from norms. The belief it's not at all politically motivated given the uniqueness of this doesn't hold water. Again I'd ask, where are the other similar cases? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,941 Posted February 21, 2024 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: So you have no solution to propose? Yeah. Send them back. It’s cheaper and safer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,588 Posted February 21, 2024 I imagine where on the path of the fall of Rome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,941 Posted February 21, 2024 Liberals have no issue with someone campaigning and saying they will prosecute an individual, not a crime. And then do it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,588 Posted February 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: So you have no solution to propose? Send them back. Failing that maybe warehouse them in the wilderness of Montana etc. In time cherry pick some to be released into civilized society Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,588 Posted February 21, 2024 This isn’t just anecdotal crimes. It’s all over the place Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,952 Posted February 21, 2024 12 minutes ago, HellToupee said: I imagine where on the path of the fall of Rome Meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites