Maximum Overkill 646 Posted March 22 7 minutes ago, thegeneral said: He’s told a couple diff stories so far so he’s not helping himself out here. Yup, he's in real trouble. This story is not going away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,801 Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Yep. He only bet on his team to win. Let’s follow this logic. Pete bet on the reds today, he’s gonna make sure he does everything to win the game including things like overusing certain pitchers. next day. Hey Pete didn’t bet today. Bookie loads up against the reds. when you don’t bet on your team every single day, which he didn’t, it sends a clear signal for one and for two, we know he got into huge debts it sets up a scenario where maybe he owes the bookie a little too much so I’m just gonna not bet the game today as an arrangement. Yeah that’s why betting on your own team to win is still bad, but that’s not throwing games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,585 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Yeah that’s why betting on your own team to win is still bad, but that’s not throwing games View it how you want. It doesn’t take much when you’re in the pocket of a bookie. Leave a pitcher struggling in an extra inning. Not pinch hit in critical times. Give a star player a day off at a certain time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,414 Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Yup, he's in real trouble. This story is not going away. No real good details out there at the moment but he and his interpreter made it worse off the start here for sure. If it’s just his interpreter betting on soccer and Aussie Rules football or something I don’t see MLB doing anything. Dodgers are beyond stacked and he is set to have a crazy good season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,653 Posted March 22 The bookie was illegal. This isn’t a casino. The bookie as soon as he takes the bet has compromised Ohtani. That’s why there has to be a wall between the game and gambling. It’s not just about Ohtani. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,414 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: View it how you want. It doesn’t take much when you’re in the pocket of a bookie. Leave a pitcher struggling in an extra inning. Not pinch hit in critical times. Give a star player a day off at a certain time Yep. The Reds were my team as kid. Pete was the man (more of a George Foster fan and then Eric Davis and Dave Parker when Pete was managing) but Rose is a major creep and a liar. His story regarding betting can’t be trusted and you absolutely cannot bet on your own sport in any manner for the reasons you have said. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 646 Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: If it’s just his interpreter betting on soccer and Aussie Rules football or something I don’t see MLB doing anything. But we know it's not, don't we though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,801 Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: No real good details out there at the moment but he and his interpreter made it worse off the start here for sure. If it’s just his interpreter betting on soccer and Aussie Rules football or something I don’t see MLB doing anything. Dodgers are beyond stacked and he is set to have a crazy good season. Yeah I look at it kinda like steroids before MLB cared about them. Even though they were still illegal in the country, MLB didn’t do anything. If the original story is true, Ohtani could potentially get charged criminally but I doubt the MLB does anything significant to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,653 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Yeah I look at it kinda like steroids before MLB cared about them. Even though they were still illegal in the country, MLB didn’t do anything. If the original story is true, Ohtani could potentially get charged criminally but I doubt the MLB does anything significant to him. What about the next guy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,414 Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: But we know it's not, don't we though? I haven’t heard enough details. It does seem crazy his interpreter alone lost this much. But I think he gets paid like 500k a year as well. What a dumbass to fock up that gig Who the hell uses a bookie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,653 Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I haven’t heard enough details. It does seem crazy his interpreter alone lost this much. But I think he gets paid like 500k a year as well. What a dumbass to fock up that gig Who the hell uses a bookie Someone that doesn’t want a record of their bets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 646 Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: What a dumbass to fock up that gig If that's the story. It's very shady at best. I'll guarantee this, the interpreter isn't going to take the fall one way or another. Especially when the Feds are about to breathe down their necks. It's about to get real. We'll see how loyal he really is. The Feds will certainly subpoena phone records, etc. The truth will come out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,414 Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Someone that doesn’t want a record of their bets. This is a good point or the guy wanted action on Sumo wrestling or some weird shet and is a degenerate / moron who didn’t want to draw attention to his boss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,414 Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: If that's the story. It's very shady at best. I'll guarantee this, the interpreter isn't going to take the fall one way or another. Especially when the Feds are about to breathe down their necks. It's about to get real. We'll see how loyal he really is. The Feds will certainly subpoena phone records, etc. The truth will come out. Ohtani about to have some off the field distractions. He’ll still go 40/40 this year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 646 Posted March 22 Just now, thegeneral said: Ohtani about to have some off the field distractions. He’ll still go 40/40 this year! I wouldn't be too sure about that. This is a huge distraction that's not going away anytime soon. Imagine reporters from all over the world addressing it in every press conference, etc. Then he has to worry about possible jail time. This isn't some dude putting $5 on a craps table. I think people are really underestimating what's about to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,585 Posted March 22 24 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Yep. The Reds were my team as kid. Pete was the man (more of a George Foster fan and then Eric Davis and Dave Parker when Pete was managing) but Rose is a major creep and a liar. His story regarding betting can’t be trusted and you absolutely cannot bet on your own sport in any manner for the reasons you have said. Eric the Red was my favorite non padres player of all time and somehow I ended up with what was rumored to be Barry Larkins team USA bat. I knew a lot of former players and they all said the same about Pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,585 Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Ohtani about to have some off the field distractions. He’ll still go 40/40 this year! Ohtani won’t ever go 40/40. He doesn’t run that much. Neither do the dogs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,653 Posted March 22 Baseball’s relationship with legal gambling is far more important to them than Ohtani. They have to do something before the politicians get involved like they did with steroids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,414 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Ohtani won’t ever go 40/40. He doesn’t run that much. Neither do the dogs He’s on pace for 81 No pitching this year so he’s going to go off! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,414 Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Eric the Red was my favorite non player of all time and somehow I ended up with what was rumored to be Barry Larkins team USA bat. I knew a lot of former players and they all said the same about Pete Amazing baseball player and competitor but he’s a sleaze. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,801 Posted March 22 15 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: If that's the story. It's very shady at best. I'll guarantee this, the interpreter isn't going to take the fall one way or another. Especially when the Feds are about to breathe down their necks. It's about to get real. We'll see how loyal he really is. The Feds will certainly subpoena phone records, etc. The truth will come out. Well I’m sure Ohtani is going to pay him a lot more than $4.5 million to take the fall. Unless gambling on baseball is involved, the feds probably care more about the bookie than who was making the bets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 646 Posted March 22 10 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Unless gambling on baseball is involved, the feds probably care more about the bookie than who was making the bets. Offshore betting is illegal in California Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,801 Posted March 22 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: Offshore betting is illegal in California I know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted March 22 8 hours ago, thegeneral said: The rules are crystal clear - you bet on the sport you are banned. GTFO no questions asked. Pete did, he lied about it for years. He is still a badass player (marginal manager) but he is banished from the league. This Otahni thing is pretty wild. We’ll see how this plays out but if worst case he was just placing bets on soccer or whatever WGAF. If it is found that Ohtani did gamble on baseball games, would Manfred have the balls to ban him from baseball or would they just keep it as quiet as possible... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted March 22 25 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Ohtani about to have some off the field distractions. He’ll still go 40/40 this year! He has never had 30 SB in a season and you think he will get 40? I don't think he will be running much with Freeman behind him and Betts on base... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,414 Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, posty said: If it is found that Ohtani did gamble on baseball games, would Manfred have the balls to ban him from baseball or would they just keep it as quiet as possible... Ban him. Donezo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,414 Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, posty said: He has never had 30 SB in a season and you think he will get 40? I don't think he will be running much with Freeman behind him and Betts on base... Him and Mookie going to go off! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Him and Mookie going to go off! Hell the first three in the lineup will probably have big seasons... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,414 Posted March 22 Just now, posty said: Hell the first three in the lineup will probably have big seasons... For sure. That lineup is absurd. Pitching might be an issue. They are the new Yankees so they’ll just keep robbing teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,585 Posted March 22 55 minutes ago, posty said: Hell the first three in the lineup will probably have big seasons... dont forget Will Smith, I think he has his huge breakout the fact that Teoscar is hitting 6/7, he would be a cleanup hitter on almost every other team says alot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,091 Posted March 22 51 minutes ago, thegeneral said: For sure. That lineup is absurd. Pitching might be an issue. They are the new Yankees so they’ll just keep robbing teams. I hope this works out as well as the Mets attempt to buy a world series. That epic fail was such a pleasure to watch. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted March 22 Pop Quiz: Is this: a - the flag of Ohtani's home country b - the back of Ohtani's tight whities after a couple days in prison c - both. ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 199 Posted March 22 That translator is going to commit seppuku before he turns on Ohtani. That's how they do that over there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted March 22 24 minutes ago, patweisers44 said: Pop Quiz: Is this: a - the flag of Ohtani's home country b - the back of Ohtani's tight whities after a couple days in prison c - both. ? The emblem MDC has on the back of his panties at the bathhouse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 646 Posted March 22 34 minutes ago, zsasz said: That translator is going to commit seppuku before he turns on Ohtani. That's how they do that over there. That could certainly happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,585 Posted March 22 46 minutes ago, zsasz said: That translator is going to commit seppuku before he turns on Ohtani. That's how they do that over there. I have disgraced my family name Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 988 Posted March 24 https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39784809/dodgers-shohei-ohtani-mizuhara-theft-line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,591 Posted March 24 Ippei Mizuhara is a con man who lied about his education and previous job experience to get his job with Ohtani and the Dodgers. Ohtani does not gamble, all the gambling was done by Mizuhara. Ohtani was completely caught off gaurd and had zero clue what was going on and Mizuhara was lying to everyone trying to cover upnthat he stole/swindled the money from Ohtani. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted March 24 A nothing story to me. Ohtani did nothing wrong, so I don't care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,801 Posted March 24 9 hours ago, jonmx said: Ippei Mizuhara is a con man who lied about his education and previous job experience to get his job with Ohtani and the Dodgers. Ohtani does not gamble, all the gambling was done by Mizuhara. Ohtani was completely caught off gaurd and had zero clue what was going on and Mizuhara was lying to everyone trying to cover upnthat he stole/swindled the money from Ohtani. Can’t tell if this is sarcasm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
