Gas vs hybrid vs electric

[Alias Detective 1,179]

Ford focusing on hybrid as full electric is stoopid right now.

I can get behind a hybrid but Fock the full electric craze.

what say you?

[supermike80 1,287]

I bought a hybrid. Not really for the environment, but most of the upgraded features only came on the hybrid model.  Not a plug in.  I like it.   Very smooth, and yeah I get about 15 MPG more than my old Impala.   I drive 25 miles each way to work daily so that is OK with me.

I think hybrids are the FAR better option today.   

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,594]

I’ve had two ford maverick hybrids. Good trucks. Can’t tow much but getting 37 mpg in a pickup for as much as I drive works for me

[jonmx 1,596]

The whole electric thing was not well thought out.   We are already pressing our capacity to the limits in some areas, and unless we go nuclear it is kind of pointless anyways.  The infrastructure for charging stations to handle cars is not there.  The access to the exotic materials for batteries is severely limited and the toxic waste they produce is enormous.  Typical planning by libtards where the solution is worse than the problem. 

Hybrids are OK, but only marginal benefits.  I get 40 mpg on my gas powered Hyndai Kona.  

My solution is we should just beam people around like they did on star trek. 

[thegeneral 1,417]

The ideal setup for multi-car households IMO:

EV for daily commuting and like 95% driving. 

Gas or Hybrid for 2nd car.

Eventually 100% some option that isn’t gas to power moving us around. 

 

[Baker Boy 1,485]

Biden’s $7.5 billion investment in EV charging has only produced 7 stations in two years
 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-7-5-billion-investment-in-ev-charging-has-only-produced-7-stations-in-two-years/ar-BB1kI8y7

[Hardcore troubadour 12,664]

6 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Biden’s $7.5 billion investment in EV charging has only produced 7 stations in two years
 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-7-5-billion-investment-in-ev-charging-has-only-produced-7-stations-in-two-years/ar-BB1kI8y7

Is that part of infrastructure? Because the roads in NY suck. 

[Cdub100 3,384]

I like the idea of electric vehicles. For 95% of people, an electric vehicle will work for their commute. If EVs ever dominate the market I think fixing them will be easier.

Our electrical grid cannot handle the load these cars will put on it though. Environmentally I don't care, but I've heard Chinese cities which are 30-40% EV have much cleaner air these days.

I'm not sure about hybrids. I feel like things that try to do too much aren't good at either.

[Tree of Knowledge 837]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Is that part of infrastructure? Because the roads in NY suck. 

One of many reasons the infrastructure bill was a joke.  

[Alias Detective 1,179]

17 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I'm not sure about hybrids. I feel like things that try to do too much aren't good at either.

Using gas when needed is better than not making it to your destination.

[Cdub100 3,384]

2 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

Using gas when needed is better than not making it to your destination.

I don't understand this comment. I see lots of people who run out of gas on the side of the road. 

[Alias Detective 1,179]

1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

I don't understand this comment. I see lots of people who run out of gas on the side of the road. 

Then they can use electric in a hybrid.  That’s my point.  2 ways for the engine to work.  When one goes the other is there.  More MPT.  (Miles per trip)

[Cdub100 3,384]

2 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

Then they can use electric in a hybrid.  That’s my point.  2 ways for the engine to work.  When one goes the other is there.  More MPT.  (Miles per trip)

Oh yeah, I get that. My point is and maybe I'm wrong, (because my FIL who has worked on cars his whole life likes hybrids) is that items that are 2-1 or 3-1 don't do anything great but multiple things average to below average.

Maybe Hybrids work very well. I haven't done the research TBH

[Alias Detective 1,179]

4 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Oh yeah, I get that. My point is and maybe I'm wrong, (because my FIL who has worked on cars his whole life likes hybrids) is that items that are 2-1 or 3-1 don't do anything great but multiple things average to below average.

Maybe Hybrids work very well. I haven't done the research TBH

Understand your point too.  I think going hybrid is the right step in the right direction.  

[thegeneral 1,417]

17 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I don't understand this comment. I see lots of people who run out of gas on the side of the road. 

Yep. Happens all the time. 

[supermike80 1,287]

10 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Oh yeah, I get that. My point is and maybe I'm wrong, (because my FIL who has worked on cars his whole life likes hybrids) is that items that are 2-1 or 3-1 don't do anything great but multiple things average to below average.

Maybe Hybrids work very well. I haven't done the research TBH

Im researching now.  But only about 7k miles so far

[thegeneral 1,417]

29 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

One of many reasons the infrastructure bill was a joke.  

Speak for yourself. Tons of projects in my area using that cash. 

Sorry Donald couldn’t figure out how to get it done

[Alias Detective 1,179]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Speak for yourself. Tons of projects in my area using that cash. 

Sorry Donald couldn’t figure out how to get it done

TRUMP!

[Cdub100 3,384]

I was looking at the Denali EV. 450 mile range. I was trying to figure out how I take it to deer camp in the UP and use it to power the whole camp. There aren't a lot of charging stations in Michigan UP.

[thegeneral 1,417]

19 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

Then they can use electric in a hybrid.  That’s my point.  2 ways for the engine to work.  When one goes the other is there.  More MPT.  (Miles per trip)

Getting better MPG is fine. Getting off gas totally would be much better. 

[thegeneral 1,417]

1 minute ago, Alias Detective said:

TRUMP!

I’m sure Tree was totally against the infrastructure bill for non-partisan reasons

[Strike 3,981]

32 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I don't understand this comment. I see lots of people who run out of gas on the side of the road. 

You can't bring an EV charging station to the side of the road.

[thegeneral 1,417]

If you drive like 50 miles or less a day, have access to your own plug-in (110 would work in light commute TBH or upgrade your plug to 220) EV’s totally work. 

They do cost more initially, they are new tech so “scary” among other issues for adoption.

They have way less shet to break on them, are fast, you don’t give a shet about gas prices for the positives. 

 

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

If you drive like 50 miles or less a day, have access to your own plug-in (110 would work in light commute TBH or upgrade your plug to 220) EV’s totally work. 

They do cost more initially, they are new tech so “scary” among other issues for adoption.

They have way less shet to break on them, are fast, you don’t give a shet about gas prices for the positives. 

 

Electric cars are gay not surprised you have one 

[thegeneral 1,417]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

Electric cars are gay not surprised you have one 

So dumb

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

Just now, thegeneral said:

So dumb

You're dumb.  Electric cars suck, get a combustion engine like a real man puss y

[thegeneral 1,417]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

You're dumb.  Electric cars suck, get a combustion engine like a real man puss y

Do you whisper this into your partners ear while getting pegged? 

[Cdub100 3,384]

22 minutes ago, Strike said:

You can't bring an EV charging station to the side of the road.

You absolutely can. I've seen those too. 

[weepaws 2,461]

My 63 runs perfectly on gas.  

[iam90sbaby 2,125]

14 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Do you whisper this into your partners ear while getting pegged? 

You spent $50k on a focking battery. Can't fix stupid 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,664]

Got my wife a hybrid in January of 21. I knew Biden was gonna Fock up gas prices. Good move. Wife went from getting 15 mpg to 35. 

[Strike 3,981]

9 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

You absolutely can. I've seen those too. 

Yeah, just as easy as going to the nearest gas station and buying a small gas can.

[thegeneral 1,417]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

You spent $50k on a focking battery. Can't fix stupid 

Your math is off. Sorry gheywad

[Bert 1,092]

Hybrid is clearly the best option.  All electric is clearly the worst.

[Tree of Knowledge 837]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Speak for yourself. Tons of projects in my area using that cash. 

Sorry Donald couldn’t figure out how to get it done

You are on the left coast.  Of course the money wasn’t going to real Americans.  7 charging stations in 2 years?   That’s good?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,664]

2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

You are on the left coast.  Of course the money wasn’t going to real Americans.  7 charging stations in 2 years?   That’s good?

But it created thousands of jobs. 10 to install them and the rest to oversee it. 

[Alias Detective 1,179]

30 minutes ago, Bert said:

Hybrid is clearly the best option.  All electric is clearly the worst.

[IGotWorms 3,317]

I don’t have much of a commute so I’ve got gas powered for longer distances. If I had a daily commute I probably would go electric. If you can charge them at your house the whole charging stations thing really is not an issue other than for road trips

[Hardcore troubadour 12,664]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

I don’t have much of a commute so I’ve got gas powered for longer distances. If I had a daily commute I probably would go electric. If you can charge them at your house the whole charging stations thing really is not an issue other than for road trips

Why would you want one without the subsidy? 

[IGotWorms 3,317]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why would you want one without the subsidy? 

You’re pretty good at non sequiturs