Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

17 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Pass rate in 1989 for California was 59.5% according to abovethelaw.com. So you will have to show where you are getting numbers from. 

EDIT- let me amend a little. The LA Times says in 1989: 

 

So 1/3 of the people taking it for the first time failed. The Hastings numbers are like 73%..so a quarter of them failed. 

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-03-15-me-635-story.html
 

 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

17 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Pass rate in 1989 for California was 59.5% according to abovethelaw.com. So you will have to show where you are getting numbers from. 

EDIT- let me amend a little. The LA Times says in 1989: 

 

So 1/3 of the people taking it for the first time failed. The Hastings numbers are like 73%..so a quarter of them failed. 

So you concede comparing her to the rest of her class, she was an absolute failure?

[Tree of Knowledge 1,690]

23 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

She passed the baby bar (on her 4th try) which isn't the same thing.

Again- according to Juris Education:

You all are grasping at straws here. 

We get it. She seems smart to YOU. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It's a little silly to me to keep railing at the "DEI hire" at Kamala. Biden stupidly said what he did and that undercut the qualifications and everything Kamala had achieved in her years of public service. But she was still the most qualified probably of the finalists at the time. Furthermore, all VP picks are strategic in some way meaning they are picked not necessarily based on qualifications but on what they give to the candidate. JD Vance has been a senator for 18 months- nobody is railing about his qualifications for that job. But he kisses the ring nicely and has a chance to extend the MAGA reign for another 8 years beyond Trump based on his age. Mike Pence smoothed the edges around Trump in 2016 and appealed to people worried about Trump's abilities. Biden was there as a steady veteran presence to the relatively young and politically inexperienced Obama. Cheney was there to be the forceful hand guiding W in 2000.

 

There is a stronger case about Ketani Jackson being a DEI hire than Kamala. 

I actually don’t mind her or anyone being called a “DEI hire”. What I mind is the idea that a DEI hire is some sort of slur, or evidence that someone is less qualified for a position. Thats the racist part. The only thing a DEI hire means is that, everything else being equal, one’s race or ethnicity (or in this case sex) was also a consideration. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that; in fact given the long history of racism and sexism in all facets of our society, it’s a good thing. The only people that resent it are typically older white conservative men, ignoring the fact that they’ve benefited from white privilege their entire lives. 
 

People forget that Clarence Thomas, who replaced Thurgood Marshall, was also a DEI hire. 

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

6 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-03-15-me-635-story.html
 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

So you concede comparing her to the rest of her class, she was an absolute failure?

 

How far are you planning on moving the goalposts on your comments during this?

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

3 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

We get it. She seems smart to YOU. 

You are the person who thought the baby bar and actual bar exam were the same thing. 

[HellToupee 1,582]

10 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Kamala is going to pick Kelly from AZ. Navy Pilot, Space Shuttle pilot, wife was shot by some nut, he’s relatively moderate.

The far right folks around here will struggle to hate on him

Why isn’t he at the top of the ticket? What has kamal done that’s been positive 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

The number of brilliant people who did not perform well on standardized tests in history is too long to list here but they include Thomas Edison, Albert Einstein, and Winston Churchill. Not putting Kamala in that category, just saying this is a really poor measuring stick. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

14 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Did you miss where people were suggesting she was a monkey and labeling her as a “DEI hire”?

And that’s just the warm up!

 

15 hours ago, MDC said:

There is definitely an element of Donald Trump’s support that has its basis in racism or xenophobia. 

 

13 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

I know right, cause that happened so much, you poor little victims. It was just people who had honest disagreements with Obama and bam, they were the head of the Ku Klux Klan. There never was any hint of racism directed at Obama.  

Started already eh?  LOL

 

Hey @The Real timschochet, remember when you said the Democrat party was wrong for calling Republican's racist just because they disagreed with Obama?  Well, you have 3 here now already doing it.  I'll be eager to hear your and their "yeah but", or it's (D)ifferent.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This thread has become so much fun to read. You guys go with she’s stupid, inauthentic, a DEI hire. See how far this gets you. Loving this. 
 

It's very entertaining watching them squirm.

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

 

How far are you planning on moving the goalposts on your comments during this?

I’m comparing apples to apples you are not. 

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

I’m comparing apples to apples you are not. 

You've given data that is clearly wrong....

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

 

 

Started already eh?  LOL

 

Hey @The Real timschochet, remember when you said the Democrat party was wrong for calling Republican's racist just because they disagreed with Obama?  Well, you have 3 here now already doing it.  I'll be eager to hear your and their "yeah but", or it's (D)ifferent.

It depends on the issue and what was said just like it did with Obama. Some of the criticism against Kamala is clearly racist. Some of it is borderline or subtly racist. Some of it is not racist at all and gets unfairly labeled as racist. We can expect much more of all three of these. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The number of brilliant people who did not perform well on standardized tests in history is too long to list here but they include Thomas Edison, Albert Einstein, and Winston Churchill. Not putting Kamala in that category, just saying this is a really poor measuring stick. 

It absolutely is.  That's THE reason they have tests. 

Exceptions don't make the rule.  If you think she's an exception then make that argument and not something completely stupid like testing doesn't matter. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

In about a week or two polls will come out that reflect the changes since Sunday. Then we’ll know if I am right or wrong about this. Right now I am predicting that her popularity will shoot way up and that she will sprint ahead of Trump in the polls. If I am wrong I will certainly own up to it. If I am right, I trust you will do the same. 

I dont care, I am not making any claims

I just find it funny that someone NOBODY has liked even within her own party is now propping her up like shes the most amazingest candidate ever

I honestly don't understand how anyone can even listen to her talk

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The number of brilliant people who did not perform well on standardized tests in history is too long to list here but they include Thomas Edison, Albert Einstein, and Winston Churchill. Not putting Kamala in that category, just saying this is a really poor measuring stick. 

Holding Harris to low standards reflects the soft bigotry and patronizing attitude of Democrats toward minorities. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

1 minute ago, JuneJuly said:

It absolutely is.  That's THE reason they have tests. 

Exceptions don't make the rule.  If you think she's an exception then make that argument and not something completely stupid like testing doesn't matter. 

Of course she’s an exception. She’s about to be the nominee for President for the Democratic Party. How many people have ever done that? Less than 100? Of course she’s an exception already. 

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I dont care, I am not making any claims

I just find it funny that someone NOBODY has liked even within her own party is now propping her up like shes the most amazingest candidate ever

I honestly don't understand how anyone can even listen to her talk

Her abilities are not relevant, only whether or not she can deliver power.....nothing else matters....and when she is no longer useful for that pursuit of power, she will be discarded...just like Biden....

[JuneJuly 193]

22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course she’s an exception. She’s about to be the nominee for President for the Democratic Party. How many people have ever done that? Less than 100? Of course she’s an exception already. 

We were talking about intelligence not race and gender and "oral" care.  

[thegeneral 2,880]

11 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Why isn’t he at the top of the ticket? What has kamal done that’s been positive 

She’s the VP. She has access to all the campaign money. It is the easiest pick in this short time frame to get every one on board - which has happened. 

[BrahmaBulls 628]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It depends on the issue and what was said just like it did with Obama. Some of the criticism against Kamala is clearly racist. Some of it is borderline or subtly racist. Some of it is not racist at all and gets unfairly labeled as racist. We can expect much more of all three of these. 

Screaming racist at every criticism of her is a clear sign there is no other defense for her.  Every politician ever goes under scrutiny for their past.  She's no different.  Deal with it.

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Holding Harris to low standards reflects the soft bigotry and patronizing attitude of Democrats toward minorities. 

Oh bullsh!t. Now you’re just making an argument for the sake of making an argument. 
I judge people by how they perform. I think that as a prosecutor, an attorney general, and a senator she’s performed very well. Nobody performs good or bad as a VP, it’s a ceremonial job. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You've given data that is clearly wrong....

I adjusted my number from 80 - 73%. You went from 50 - 73%. 73% of her class passed. Stats are difficult.

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

4 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Screaming racist at every criticism of her is a clear sign there is no other defense for her.  Every politician ever goes under scrutiny for their past.  She's no different.  Deal with it.

Nothing wrong with scrutinizing her past. When it’s done through a racist or sexist lens, that will be called out. 
 

For example, yesterday JD Vance said that Harris ought to be grateful that she has benefited from being born in this country (implying that she isn’t.) Every black person hearing that knows it’s a dog whistle, basically calling her “uppity”. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Oh bullsh!t. Now you’re just making an argument for the sake of making an argument. 
I judge people by how they perform. I think that as a prosecutor, an attorney general, and a senator she’s performed very well. Nobody performs good or bad as a VP, it’s a ceremonial job. 

Then please tell us of her accomplishments as a prosecutor, AG and  senator. We are all eager to hear them. 

[steeler6 16]

I'll be curios to see the process of choosing her running mate. Will there be 4 or 5 highly thought of Dems looking to be on the ticket with her that she'll get to choose from or will she have to settle for a running mate because of the lack of interest from those top Dems? Whitmer already took herself out of the running. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Oh bullsh!t. Now you’re just making an argument for the sake of making an argument. 
I judge people by how they perform. I think that as a prosecutor, an attorney general, and a senator she’s performed very well. Nobody performs good or bad as a VP, it’s a ceremonial job. 

Kamala Harris More Liberal Than Bernie Sanders, Senate Record Analysis Shows

Also this 

Former fed prosecutor-

“Practical reality -- she joined the Alameda County DA's office just after passing the bar.  That means misdemeanors for a significant period of time until she learned how to be a prosecutor.  But she left after only 3 years to take a position that Willie Brown appointed her to.  My guess is she was maybe doing DUIs at that point, or minor drug cases.  Not serious felonies.  So she has no meaningful trial experience in big time criminal cases when she leaves.

Four years later she takes a position with the SF District Attorney's Office -- a FAMOUSLY dysfunctional place when it came to putting criminals in jail -- and handed a supervisors job for the Career Criminal Division.  That's just crazy stupid -- 3 years experience doing misdemeanors followed by five years out of the business -- and then she's a Supervisor of a Career Criminal Division???   

There is a claim on her Wiki page that while in that position she prosecuted robbery, murder, sex assault, and Three Strikes cases.  But there is no citation to any source for that claim, and I haven't found any looking in the usual locations.  She was in that position less than 2 years and left after a well-publicized blowup with the DA's top Assistant.  That division -- with 5 experienced prosecutors -- might have prosecuted those cases, but they didn't need the help of someone with 3 years experience in the Alameda DA's office.

She was later elected DA of San Fran, and elected Attorney General of Calif.  Neither job involves going into courtrooms and handling cases.”

https://x.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1815557695833096309?s=46&t=Fib7p2nPeGXuJiuDfFsfmA

[Tree of Knowledge 1,690]

Just now, steeler6 said:

I'll be curios to see the process of choosing her running mate. Will there be 4 or 5 highly thought of Dems looking to be on the ticket with her or will she have to settle for a running mate because of the lack of interest from those top Dems? Whitmer already took herself out of the running. 

Normally, you have to prop up an unprepared and overwhelmed DEI hire like Kamala with 5-6 sharp white dudes.  Unfortunately, the constitution only has one VP.  It will be a white male.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It depends on the issue and what was said just like it did with Obama. Some of the criticism against Kamala is clearly racist. Some of it is borderline or subtly racist. Some of it is not racist at all and gets unfairly labeled as racist. We can expect much more of all three of these. 

LOL, figured as much.  The irony of the Left is amazing.  The Democrat party has not being anti-racist in this country, ever.  Ever.  Meaning, they're still the racist ones now.  Yet, you sit on your pedestal and shout at the others, while pretending they are not.

When you deny it, just know that I'm calling you a liar and full of crap, so no need to respond.

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

28 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

It's very entertaining watching them squirm.

Actually, we're laughing at how stupid you guys are.  Trump is/was anti-Democracy, right?  That's the claim, is it not?  How many votes from the public did Harris get to be on the ticket in November?

[JuneJuly 193]

19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Oh bullsh!t. Now you’re just making an argument for the sake of making an argument. 
I judge people by how they perform. I think that as a prosecutor, an attorney general, and a senator she’s performed very well. Nobody performs good or bad as a VP, it’s a ceremonial job. 

You're so full of BS your eyes are brown. You just tried to make the argument that STANDARDIZED tests were a bad measuring stick. What's next, clocks are bad at telling time?  Dogs make terrible pets?   You're a joke and everyone sees that what you have to say is just hot air up liberal rear. 

[Mike Honcho 5,084]

37 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

 

 

Started already eh?  LOL

 

Hey @The Real timschochet, remember when you said the Democrat party was wrong for calling Republican's racist just because they disagreed with Obama?  Well, you have 3 here now already doing it.  I'll be eager to hear your and their "yeah but", or it's (D)ifferent.

Where did I call someone racist for disagreeing with Obama?  I was sarcastically mocking at the people who claimed that was what was happening and being snowflakes.  Nice try.

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then please tell us of her accomplishments as a prosecutor, AG and  senator. We are all eager to hear them. 

Easy enough to Google that and all other aspects of her bio. No need for me to do it. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Actually, we're laughing at how stupid you guys are.  Trump is/was anti-Democracy, right?  That's the claim, is it not?  How many votes from the public did Harris get to be on the ticket in November?

It only took a few hours to coronate a successor and they did it without the inclusion of a single democratic institution.

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

3 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

You're so full of BS your eyes are brown. You just tried to make the argument that STANDARDIZED tests were a bad measuring stick. What's next, clocks are bad at telling time?  Dogs make terrible pets?   You're a joke and everyone sees that what you have to say is just hot air up liberal rear. 

I said they’re a bad measuring stick for exceptional people. Which she clearly is. 
 

As it happens my eyes are brown. Thanks for asking. 

[Alias Detective 1,388]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Her approval ratings, within a week or so, will be well over 50%. Calling it now. Whole new ballgame, you guys just don’t see it yet. 

What are they approving of in the next week?  Or is it just all the Biden supporters will "now" approve of her?  Bwahahahahahah

[TrailGuy 552]

The same people that support fake electors and trying to stop the certification with political violence are now crying about how democracy being subverted with Harris.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,690]

42 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are the person who thought the baby bar and actual bar exam were the same thing. 

I don’t live in Kalifornia.  I don’t care   They are both attorneys in the state   

Are you the schoolteacher?

[thegeneral 2,880]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

The same people that support fake electors and trying to stop the certification with political violence are now crying about how democracy being subverted with Harris.

Throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Easy enough to Google that and all other aspects of her bio. No need for me to do it. 

Then you can stop making the claim of her doing a good job if you can’t tell us about it.