jonmx 2,429 Posted October 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: Trump Under 210 +550 210-239 +425 240-269 +275 270-299 +250 300-329 +275 300 and above +1000 I think you meant '330 and above'.....To get to 330, Trump would have to sweep the Sunbelt and Rustbelt (probable) as well as pick off Minnesota and NH (unlikely). That is pushing the upper limits, but possible. The 300-329 is the most likely outcome. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: And how would they administrate that? At gunpoint? Forced labor? Confiscation of all goods and industry? How are they doing it right now in the huge swath of the country they’ve already taken and which Trump means to let his buddy Putin keep? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted October 11, 2024 On 10/8/2024 at 8:38 PM, The Real timschochet said: Whats interesting, from a solely political standpoint: Trump had the chance to win Michigan because Palestinians there don’t like how Biden has supported Israel. But if the alternative is even greater support for Israel without any restrictions at all, a lot of those Palestinians are going to end up voting for Harris. Trump is giving Michigan away. On 10/8/2024 at 11:15 PM, The Real timschochet said: You misunderstand me (and @Horseman is simply an idiot as always.) Trump didn’t need to run to the left of Harris on Israel. All he had to do is shut up about it, and let Harris wallow in the center. Thats what Trump was basically doing on this issue for months and it was working. Now he has come out fully in support of Israel and reminding the Muslims in Michigan that he really doesn’t love them. I have some bad news for you. Jill Stein with the support from people like Kshama Sawant are campaigning to take those votes away from Kackala. Especially hard in Michigan. Shocked you didn't know this with all your political savvy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted October 11, 2024 On 10/8/2024 at 11:38 PM, The Real timschochet said: Whats interesting, from a solely political standpoint: Trump had the chance to win Michigan because Palestinians there don’t like how Biden has supported Israel. But if the alternative is even greater support for Israel without any restrictions at all, a lot of those Palestinians are going to end up voting for Harris. Trump is giving Michigan away. I disagree to a point on this. I concur that the apparent improvement for Trump in Michigan are not really "improvements" so much as the Muslim community being intolerant, in that anything less that an absolute condemnation for Israel means they will not vote. So its more a case of the Muslims asserting and polling that they will not vote. Remember, intolerance is integral to the Islam religion. Now if they are smart, then in the days leading up to the election Harris will switch gears and start to condemn Israel, then she can swing this her way. She likely wants to do it now, but is waiting for the right moment. Its not politically convenient to support terrorists, but it might help her win Michigan, and I suspect its what she wants to do, I sense she is an ant-semite So there is a way here to manipulate the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted October 11, 2024 12 minutes ago, RLLD said: I disagree to a point on this. I concur that the apparent improvement for Trump in Michigan are not really "improvements" so much as the Muslim community being intolerant, in that anything less that an absolute condemnation for Israel means they will not vote. So its more a case of the Muslims asserting and polling that they will not vote. Remember, intolerance is integral to the Islam religion. Now if they are smart, then in the days leading up to the election Harris will switch gears and start to condemn Israel, then she can swing this her way. She likely wants to do it now, but is waiting for the right moment. Its not politically convenient to support terrorists, but it might help her win Michigan, and I suspect its what she wants to do, I sense she is an ant-semite So there is a way here to manipulate the situation. sure, jewish people will probably not be paying any attn then, should be able to sneak this in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted October 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, Herbivore said: sure, jewish people will probably not be paying any attn then, should be able to sneak this in She could care less about the Jews. What she cares about is winning and being in power. And if their math suggests that winning Michigan delivers that outcome she would sacrifice every Jew alive to get it. They do not really have the Jewish vote as it stands, given their allowance for terrorists to espouse vile anti semitic views. In the end it will boil down to what lies to tell to manipulate the right sets of voters to deliver power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,778 Posted October 11, 2024 in a nutshell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,937 Posted October 11, 2024 Do you think Harris will get 140 million votes? I bet she beats the most popular Potato's 81 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 11, 2024 Man these conspiracies get stupid. Miss the halycon days where political back and forth didn't rely on dopey Twitter users 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,439 Posted October 11, 2024 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: How are they doing it right now in the huge swath of the country they’ve already taken and which Trump means to let his buddy Putin keep? Well most of the people that live in those areas are ethnically Russian. Derp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted October 11, 2024 1 hour ago, jonmx said: I would take Trump over 310 EVs all day. Lol, bookmarking this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted October 11, 2024 Wow, WI and MI both down to fractions of a point with Trump winning the latest two polls published. No wonder Tim changed the thread title and left not committing to any more updates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted October 11, 2024 23 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Lol, bookmarking this one Really? Trump got 304 against Hillary who was at the time polling way better than Harris is right now. If I were to bet the range I'd bet both 270-299 and 300-329. According to the odds 300+ is just as likely as Kamala winning. You're not smart tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted October 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: Really? Trump got 304 against Hillary who was at the time polling way better than Harris is right now. If I were to bet the range I'd bet both 270-299 and 300-329. According to the odds 300+ is just as likely as Kamala winning. You're not smart tho. 300-310 is plausible, but not over 310 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted October 11, 2024 I have to wonder, could there be a chance that suddenly like30 former intelligence agents put out some lie this time? And I wonder what that lie might be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted October 11, 2024 Amazing- Rasmussen has Kamala up by 3 points in latest national poll: https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-surges-ahead-donald-trump-new-national-poll-1967821 If Rasmussen has her up by 3 she might be ahead by a lot more, lol. Their polls ALWAYS favor conservatives. (But then, compared to Trump, Harris is a conservative.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,778 Posted October 11, 2024 wow kamala is a real POS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Well most of the people that live in those areas are ethnically Russian. Derp Another Putin talking point. Consider me shocked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted October 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Amazing- Rasmussen has Kamala up by 3 points in latest national poll: https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-surges-ahead-donald-trump-new-national-poll-1967821 If Rasmussen has her up by 3 she might be ahead by a lot more, lol. Their polls ALWAYS favor conservatives. (But then, compared to Trump, Harris is a conservative.) Usually Rasmussen adds 2-3 points more to the conservative candidate than the other polling organizations, which would make Harris up 5-6 (unless this is an outlier which is quite possible since I wouldn't have expected those numbers from Rasmussen). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Horseman said: Really? Trump got 304 against Hillary who was at the time polling way better than Harris is right now. If I were to bet the range I'd bet both 270-299 and 300-329. According to the odds 300+ is just as likely as Kamala winning. You're not smart tho. Everything broke Trump’s way against Hillary. Doubt that happens again. But it could. Could be Harris gets 310+ as well. Basically anything is on the table except a true landslide Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted October 11, 2024 Just now, IGotWorms said: Could be Harris gets 310+ as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: You see, this is when you betray yourself as an unserious person. If she gets all the swing states that’s 319. If Trump gets them all it’s 312. Basically both are as likely in a 50/50 race. Though most likely neither will happen. Probably something like 280-250ish either way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted October 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: You see, this is when you betray yourself as an unserious person. If she gets all the swing states that’s 319. If Trump gets them all it’s 312. Basically both are as likely in a 50/50 race. Though most likely neither will happen. Probably something like 280-250ish either way You see, this is where you give TimShannonHauck a run for the metal helmet trophy. I posted the betting odds up thread, we all *should* know what the odds are instead of using some pea brain hamster wheel logic. It's almost twice as unlikely right now for Kackala to get that. +425 vs +275 Anyone that thinks it's a 50/50 race right now hasn't been paying attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1erce 88 Posted October 11, 2024 This election I 100% believe Trump will get 300 electoral votes. Some people have even been saying California might flip red for the first time. One of my best friends from my AF days lives in San Diego (he votes Trump) & said there’s TONS of ppl living there that were lifelong Dems but are now voting red bc of all the failed policies of theirs as well as their attitudes towards the American ppl 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 352 Posted October 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, F1erce said: This election I 100% believe Trump will get 300 electoral votes. Some people have even been saying California might flip red for the first time. One of my best friends from my AF days lives in San Diego (he votes Trump) & said there’s TONS of ppl living there that were lifelong Dems but are now voting red bc of all the failed policies of theirs as well as their attitudes towards the American ppl Many people are saying. Many people. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1erce 88 Posted October 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, purdygood said: Many people are saying. Many people. Cope harder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 352 Posted October 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, F1erce said: Cope harder I actually live in CA. It's not going for Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,553 Posted October 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, purdygood said: Many people are saying. Many people. I know, right? He sounds just like Tim!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1erce 88 Posted October 11, 2024 1 minute ago, purdygood said: I actually live in CA. It's not going for Trump. So does my friend Didn’t say it would but you’re an idiot if you think she’s gonna get as many votes as Biden did from there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted October 11, 2024 I wish I could be as optimistic as my patriot brethren. I just can’t. The Democrat Party has a well oiled machine to steal elections. I hope I am wrong but I can’t see this being a fair election and allowing Trump to take office. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1erce 88 Posted October 11, 2024 Just now, Tree of Knowledge said: I wish I could be as optimistic as my patriot brethren. I just can’t. The Democrat Party has a well oiled machine to steal elections. I hope I am wrong but I can’t see this being a fair election and allowing Trump to take office. It’s sad that majority of ppl feel the same way. Even ppl voting Dem have said “idc if we cheat, as long as he isn’t in office”. So yea, I wouldn’t put it past them to cheat again, however, I highly doubt that’ll happen. They played their hand last election & ppl are NOT allowing that to happen again. No more 3am spikes in votes ALL for one candidate. Hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots randomly all counted in the middle of the night & theyre ALL for one candidate? Yea that’s blatant cheating & everyone knows it. Statistically, it’s HIGHLY improbable. So much so that it won’t ever happen again (cause it literally can’t) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted October 11, 2024 1 minute ago, F1erce said: It’s sad that majority of ppl feel the same way. Even ppl voting Dem have said “idc if we cheat, as long as he isn’t in office”. So yea, I wouldn’t put it past them to cheat again, however, I highly doubt that’ll happen. They played their hand last election & ppl are NOT allowing that to happen again. No more 3am spikes in votes ALL for one candidate. Hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots randomly all counted in the middle of the night & theyre ALL for one candidate? Yea that’s blatant cheating & everyone knows it. Statistically, it’s HIGHLY improbable. So much so that it won’t ever happen again (cause it literally can’t) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1erce 88 Posted October 11, 2024 Just now, OldMaid said: Aren’t you menopausing right now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted October 11, 2024 Just now, F1erce said: Aren’t you menopausing right now? I’m sure your two brains cells overheating trying to create a thought is much worse than hot flashes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1erce 88 Posted October 11, 2024 Just now, OldMaid said: I’m sure your two brains cells overheating trying to create a thought is much worse than hot flashes. Sure old woman Your value is already gone. So why are you commenting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 352 Posted October 11, 2024 12 minutes ago, F1erce said: So does my friend Didn’t say it would but you’re an idiot if you think she’s gonna get as many votes as Biden did from there So now its about "the popular vote" and not the "electoral college" ? Good to see you coming around! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1erce 88 Posted October 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, purdygood said: So now its about "the popular vote" and not the "electoral college" ? Good to see you coming around! Wtf are you talking about retard? Jesus Christ if this how you argue then no wonder you get your ass kicked up one side of the board & down the other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted October 11, 2024 5 minutes ago, F1erce said: Sure old woman Your value is already gone. So why are you commenting? You sure told me! I’m gonna cry for days about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1erce 88 Posted October 11, 2024 9 minutes ago, OldMaid said: You sure told me! I’m gonna cry for days about this. We know you will Share this post Link to post Share on other sites