Horseman 2,353 Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: 538 has em tied. Their simulations have Kamala winning a couple more times out of 100. Fair. They also have Trump ahead in more battleground states. Let Tim know, would ya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted October 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, OldMaid said: I will be here with a bucket to collect your tears. I could not be more certain. I like the confidence. is that confidence going to carry you thru the next 4 years if Trump wins? I don't want to see you burning down neighborhoods, looting businesses and the like that the left likes to do when they don't get their way. Just want to be sure you're going to stay above the fray. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,129 Posted October 17, 2024 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I like the confidence. is that confidence going to carry you thru the next 4 years if Trump wins? I don't want to see you burning down neighborhoods, looting businesses and the like that the left likes to do when they don't get their way. Just want to be sure you're going to stay above the fray. Enough Max. I’m a middle aged white woman, who lives in California, I’ll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 233 Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, OldMaid said: Enough Max. I’m a middle aged white woman, who lives in California, I’ll be fine. Explains a lot. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,883 Posted October 17, 2024 It’s been said…but that Kamala is behind it with a tiny lead in these battleground polls is no bueno. Sure they may have adjusted their methods of collecting info or whatever but this is bad news for the team blue tie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,129 Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: It’s been said…but that Kamala is behind it with a tiny lead in these battleground polls is no bueno. Sure they may have adjusted their methods of collecting info or whatever but this is bad news for the team blue tie. Think of this like the 2012 election when Romney pulled ahead of Obama in Oct but lost in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,883 Posted October 17, 2024 14 minutes ago, OldMaid said: Think of this like the 2012 election when Romney pulled ahead of Obama in Oct but lost in the end. Perhaps. We have two elections with Orange Julius though and both times the polls were off a few points in the Dems favor. I have a hard time believing he will win but it’s somehow close so who the hell knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted October 17, 2024 20 minutes ago, OldMaid said: Enough Max. I’m a middle aged white woman, who lives in California, I’ll be fine. Fun Fact: Squiz is also a middle-aged white woman who lives in California! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted October 17, 2024 16 minutes ago, OldMaid said: Think of this like the 2012 election when Romney pulled ahead of Obama in Oct but lost in the end. Why wouldn't you compare it to the last two presidential elections when Trump faced off against women? Think about it for a minute. You had to go all the way back to 2012, when Trump wasn't even on the ballot, to get it to work out the way you want it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,182 Posted October 17, 2024 45 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: 538 is a poll aggregator. They just run the numbers. Wheres the bias? And yet whenever I check 538 they seem to be missing some polls. I wonder why.......... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted October 17, 2024 When did 538 stop including Rasmussen polls? Why doesn't 538 include any PEW Research polls since September? Rhetorical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,129 Posted October 17, 2024 11 minutes ago, Horseman said: Why wouldn't you compare it to the last two presidential elections when Trump faced off against women? Think about it for a minute. You had to go all the way back to 2012, when Trump wasn't even on the ballot, to get it to work out the way you want it. You watch and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted October 17, 2024 Musk campaigning for Trump today and all next week in PA is Mark PA, and thus the election down for Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,286 Posted October 17, 2024 I'm in a potential swing district for the one Electoral vote up for grabs in Nebraska. The other 4 electoral votes in Nebraska will almost certainly go Red/Republican. I was texted asking who I am voting for by https://www.publiuspolls.com/ The text started off with my first name I think this may be an inside organization for internal polling. Choices were. A) Kamala B ) Trump C ) Not voting D ) Other At first I blocked and deleted, but they contacted me again a few days later from a different phone number also starting with my first name and saying they were Publius Polls. I responded B They haven't bothered me since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted October 17, 2024 46 minutes ago, OldMaid said: Enough Max. I’m a middle aged white woman, who lives in California, I’ll be fine. So you don’t think democracy is on the line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted October 17, 2024 "I'd love to see the crossover of puppet maters and the Epstein client list." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 173 Posted October 17, 2024 23 minutes ago, OldMaid said: You watch and see. What do you think of her today after she's been found out to be a race hoaxer? Or, is it just tds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,129 Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: "I'd love to see the crossover of puppet maters and the Epstein client list." A 1000 puppet masters. Do they draw names out of a hat on who gets to pull the strings on any given day? You guys are batshit insane! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,129 Posted October 17, 2024 Just now, BudBro said: What do you think of her today after she's been found out to be a race hoaxer? Or, is it just tds? I think you are nuts. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 173 Posted October 17, 2024 Just now, OldMaid said: I think you are nuts. HTH Yeah, it's me. So, just tds then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,286 Posted October 17, 2024 I am Gepetto. I am the greatest puppet master! BwaHAHAHA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted October 18, 2024 39 minutes ago, Horseman said: When did 538 stop including Rasmussen polls? Why doesn't 538 include any PEW Research polls since September? Rhetorical. They dumped Rasmussen because they are biased. You know this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted October 18, 2024 15 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: They dumped Rasmussen because they are biased. You know this. "All polls I don't agree with are biased! I only believe my biased polls." FYP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted October 18, 2024 28 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: They dumped Rasmussen because they are biased. You know this. Oh I know why. I asked when. You don’t read so good do you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,598 Posted October 18, 2024 17 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: "All polls I don't agree with are biased! I only believe my biased polls." FYP. Hey leave @jonmx out of this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,598 Posted October 18, 2024 I didn’t realize Georgia righties had been embarking on a voter suppression mission until John Oliver talked about it recently. Looks like Trump will win Georgia after all. https://www.propublica.org/article/right-wing-activists-georgia-voter-challenges Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted October 18, 2024 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I didn’t realize Georgia righties had been embarking on a voter suppression mission until John Oliver talked about it recently. Looks like Trump will win Georgia after all. https://www.propublica.org/article/right-wing-activists-georgia-voter-challenges Yeah but they’re losing almost all of these challenges. And early voting in Georgia is setting records. I think she’s got a good chance to win there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 338 Posted October 18, 2024 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Yeah but they’re losing almost all of these challenges. And early voting in Georgia is setting records. I think she’s got a good chance to win there. Someone should tell Rob Manfred. Remember when it was Jim Crow 2.0 and MLB moved the All Star Game? They really showed them. Cost that area and business there countless millions of dollars over that nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted October 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: Someone should tell Rob Manfred. Remember when it was Jim Crow 2.0 and MLB moved the All Star Game? They really showed them. Cost that area and business there countless millions of dollars over that nonsense. Well that’s on the Republicans. They never should have tried to change the rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted October 18, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: Someone should tell Rob Manfred. Remember when it was Jim Crow 2.0 and MLB moved the All Star Game? They really showed them. Cost that area and business there countless millions of dollars over that nonsense. And the result was record turnout by black voters. And everyone else. Shouldn’t y’all stfu at this point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted October 18, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: And the result was record turnout by black voters. And everyone else. Because black voters there heroically overcame the new restrictions. That doesn’t justify the blatant racism that went into them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 338 Posted October 18, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Well that’s on the Republicans. They never should have tried to change the rules. Yeah, they made voting less restrictive than most blue states, go figure. So they punish the businesses in Atlanta, many minority owned, as well as the franchise in MLB that's done probably the most to help the black community. That was the most hypocritical political stunt I've seen them pull in awhile. It was stupid, and it's proven out to be so in voting totals. The numbers don't lie, they never do. Hey, but it made them be able to virtue signal and that's really all they wanted. Nothing changed, and the game is back, so it really shows what the truth was the entire time. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 338 Posted October 18, 2024 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: And the result was record turnout by black voters. And everyone else. Shouldn’t y’all stfu at this point? You know how this goes, nobody ever admits they were wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted October 18, 2024 10 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: Yeah, they made voting less restrictive than most blue states, go figure. So they punish the businesses in Atlanta, many minority owned, as well as the franchise in MLB that's done probably the most to help the black community. That was the most hypocritical political stunt I've seen them pull in awhile. It was stupid, and it's proven out to be so in voting totals. The numbers don't lie, they never do. Hey, but it made them be able to virtue signal and that's really all they wanted. Nothing changed, and the game is back, so it really shows what the truth was the entire time. There was no virtue signaling. I feel like some of you guys will never understand that. Not every boycott works, not every boycott is wise. But the intent is usually pure. In this case the folks who did this really believed that the new law was designed to reduce black voting, and that it was racist in outcome and intent. I agree with that assessment. So MLB responded. Maybe it didn’t work out the way they hoped but the problem was very real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 338 Posted October 18, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: There was no virtue signaling. I feel like some of you guys will never understand that. Not every boycott works, not every boycott is wise. But the intent is usually pure. In this case the folks who did this really believed that the new law was designed to reduce black voting, and that it was racist in outcome and intent. I agree with that assessment. So MLB responded. Maybe it didn’t work out the way they hoped but the problem was very real. Sure there was, from MLB 100%. If someone didn't take the time to research what that organization had done for the community in Atlanta and realize how many minority owned businesses were hurt, to move to Denver of all places instead, well that's hard for me to view as pure. The problem wasn't real, because if it were a problem it wouldn't be in the past tense, it would still be such an objectionable problem the game shouldn't be there. The law is still the same and yet the game is back. So either those wonderful pure hearted uninformed individuals were wrong from the start, or they are purely political beings and knew the whole time nothing was wrong and did it for political reasons. Now, it can be either of the two, but it must be one of the two because nothing at all has changed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,910 Posted October 18, 2024 35 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Because black voters there heroically overcame the new restrictions. That doesn’t justify the blatant racism that went into them. So they couldn’t overcome the no restrictions earlier? Record turnout dumbass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,598 Posted October 18, 2024 55 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yeah but they’re losing almost all of these challenges. And early voting in Georgia is setting records. I think she’s got a good chance to win there. I’m more concerned about the possibility that folks might think they’ll be ineligible (even if they’re really not) if they don’t show up to the hearing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,391 Posted October 18, 2024 50 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I’m more concerned about the possibility that folks might think they’ll be ineligible (even if they’re really not) if they don’t show up to the hearing. After Harris wins you can bet the MAGA folks will come up with everything they can. They will never accept it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted October 18, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: After Harris wins you can bet the MAGA folks will come up with everything they can. They will never accept it. Gimp, and serial liar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites