Tree of Knowledge 1,786 Posted September 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Do you understand that there is a difference between decriminalizing the personal use of fentanyl and attempting to prevent its flow into the country? And that these can be goals which do not contradict each other? We just can’t trust someone with a documented 78 IQ like Harris to know the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,695 Posted September 28, 2024 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: She did a good job at the border. Her plan is is far more thoughtful than the fool she is running against. Too bad Trump is so weak on this issue. I posted this in the immigration thread, but let's put it here for general discussion. Alex Soros is pouring a ton of money into their campaign. He wants open borders. Connect the dots. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,235 Posted September 29, 2024 I have seen a lot of trump signs in Michigan but i have seen very few Harris signs. I know this is not a scientific poll but I have a hard time seeing her winning here based off the travels I have done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 5 hours ago, jerryskids said: I posted this in the immigration thread, but let's put it here for general discussion. Alex Soros is pouring a ton of money into their campaign. He wants open borders. Connect the dots. The main flaw in your reasoning is that Alex Soros doesn’t seek open borders. He wants what I want: much more open legal immigration, a path to citizenship for law-abiding undocumented immigrants, and end to the demonization of immigrants (which you participate in here) and in general, more globalization and free trade. I think these are all good things which will bring us greater prosperity. I know you disagree. But that’s not the same as open borders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 I watched two commercials during the Georgia vs Alabama game. The first by Kamala discussed jobs and her economic plan. The only mention of Trump was that he wants to stay out of jail. The second by Trump showed an old video of Kamala wanting transsexuals in prison and elsewhere to have access to gender affirming care including operations. The only people that care at all about transsexuals are the Maga crowd already firmly committed to Trump. Just in terms of politics and courting any remaining undecided votes, her ads are smart, his are stupid: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 And now a second commercial by Kamala shows Trump backing out of the next debate. Again very smart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,211 Posted September 29, 2024 What has Alexander Soros ever accomplished that he should have such an outsized say in our countries future? He should run for office if he does where he can be held accountable. I remember way back when 10 years ago when libtards spoke out about oligarchs. What happened? I bet real Tim did. Someone from FBG’s know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What has Alexander Soros ever accomplished that he should have such an outsized say in our countries future? He should run for office if he does where he can be held accountable. I remember way back when 10 years ago when libtards spoke out about oligarchs. What happened? I bet real Tim did. Someone from FBG’s know? Couldn’t you ask the same question about Elon Musk? Or the late Sheldon Adelson? Sounds like your real beef is with the unlimited campaign contributions that the Supreme Court decided to allow. (Citizens United). I was against that decision, but if we’re going to allow billionaires to have so much influence I’d rather they be on my side than yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,211 Posted September 29, 2024 14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Couldn’t you ask the same question about Elon Musk? Or the late Sheldon Adelson? Sounds like your real beef is with the unlimited campaign contributions that the Supreme Court decided to allow. (Citizens United). I was against that decision, but if we’re going to allow billionaires to have so much influence I’d rather they be on my side than yours. I asked what Soros has accomplished. Why do you people always skip over the important part? Neither one should have such influence, but at least Musk has accomplished great things and would be consider a visionary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,713 Posted September 29, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: The second by Trump showed an old video of Kamala wanting transsexuals in prison and elsewhere to have access to gender affirming care including operations. The only people that care at all about transsexuals are the Maga crowd already firmly committed to Trump. Just in terms of politics and courting any remaining undecided votes, her ads are smart, his are stupid: I saw this commercial during a MrBeast video I was watching with my kids today (I assume intentional on the part of Trump’s team due to the Tyson controversy). So much for not bringing up trannies around kids Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,641 Posted September 29, 2024 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: The main flaw in your reasoning is that Alex Soros doesn’t seek open borders. He wants what I want: much more open legal immigration, a path to citizenship for law-abiding undocumented immigrants, and end to the demonization of immigrants (which you participate in here) and in general, more globalization and free trade. I think these are all good things which will bring us greater prosperity. I know you disagree. But that’s not the same as open borders. Globalism will always fail Tim. Globalism will never out work culture. Y’all can wish all you want with your “wouldn’t it be great if” pipe dreams, but it will fail. The planet is not a chess board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: Globalism will always fail Tim. Globalism will never out work culture. Y’all can wish all you want with your “wouldn’t it be great if” pipe dreams, but it will fail. The planet is not a chess board. America is proof that you’re wrong. We are the great globalist country. That’s what sets us apart from every other nation. There is no dominant culture here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted September 29, 2024 22 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: She did a good job at the border. Her plan is is far more thoughtful than the fool she is running against. Too bad Trump is so weak on this issue. Of all the retarded things you have said over the years, this could be the most retarded of all, and that is a very very high bar. I hope you were trolling and are not really that effing stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,713 Posted September 29, 2024 Just now, jonmx said: Of all the retarded things you have said over the years, this could be the most retarded of all, and that is a very very high bar. I hope you were trolling and are not really that effing stupid Do you still believe Kamala Harris has a 78 IQ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 226 Posted September 29, 2024 22 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: She did a good job at the border. Her plan is is far more thoughtful than the fool she is running against. Too bad Trump is so weak on this issue. trolling at its finest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,889 Posted September 29, 2024 23 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: She did a good job at the border. Her plan is is far more thoughtful than the fool she is running against. Too bad Trump is so weak on this issue. She's been Vice President for almost 4 years now. She's done NOTHING to close the border. What makes you people think that this Drunk Cackling DEI Hyena is going to do something now? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 343 Posted September 29, 2024 14 hours ago, kilroy69 said: I have seen a lot of trump signs in Michigan but i have seen very few Harris signs. I know this is not a scientific poll but I have a hard time seeing her winning here based off the travels I have done Non Trump fans are not in a cult. We just vote like normal people. I don't need to decorate my yard like it's Halloween for the Election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,695 Posted September 29, 2024 34 minutes ago, purdygood said: Non Trump fans are not in a cult. We just vote like normal people. I don't need to decorate my yard like it's Halloween for the Election. Funny, I see more Harris/Walz (and before that Biden) signs. And "in this house" signs. And my neighborhood is probably 50/50, maybe more Trumpy. As I said in the thread about Lefties teaching their kids intolerance, Lefties will ostracize you if you support Trump. When I see those Harris/Walz signs, I just think, "bless your heart." Oh, and Lefties are in plenty of cults. Climate change, woke ideology, Hamas/terrorist lovers, transing kids, TDS, killing unborn children, Antifa, all have maniacal support for their constituents, and like cults, they accept no dissent. It has been shown that humans need some sort of beliefs (some might call a "religion,"), and in the absence of belief in God, they find other things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 47 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: She's been Vice President for almost 4 years now. She's done NOTHING to close the border. What makes you people think that this Drunk Cackling DEI Hyena is going to do something now? Closing the border is not the goal. Securing the border is. But there are ways to do that without the idiotic, catastrophic methods that Trump keeps proposing. Why hasn’t she done more? VPs are pretty powerless. She was put in charge of looking at the roots of the issue and offering possible solutions to Congress. She did that, but people like you don’t want to hear what she found out, which is that man made climate change and unstable governments in Latin America (often the legacy of long term interference by the USA) have created an untenable refugee situation and mass movements of people which is only going to get worse over time, and we can’t solve that by simply shutting our doors and pretending it isn’t happening. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 Back to the polls: Atlas Intel, the poll which was the most accurate in 2020, and which Jon loves, continues to be an outlier this time around, showing Trump ahead nationally and in 5 of 7 swing states (though oddly enough behind in North Carolina). All of its findings are within the margin of error. It’s an outlier poll because virtually every other poll has her ahead nationally and tied or ahead in the swing states. Being an outlier doesn’t make it wrong. But I have a hard time believing Kamala wins North Carolina but not Pennsylvania or Georgia. That doesn’t seem likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 343 Posted September 29, 2024 48 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Funny, I see more Harris/Walz (and before that Biden) signs. And "in this house" signs. And my neighborhood is probably 50/50, maybe more Trumpy. As I said in the thread about Lefties teaching their kids intolerance, Lefties will ostracize you if you support Trump. When I see those Harris/Walz signs, I just think, "bless your heart." Oh, and Lefties are in plenty of cults. Climate change, woke ideology, Hamas/terrorist lovers, transing kids, TDS, killing unborn children, Antifa, all have maniacal support for their constituents, and like cults, they accept no dissent. It has been shown that humans need some sort of beliefs (some might call a "religion,"), and in the absence of belief in God, they find other things. Thankfully in my neighborhood when i walk my dog there is only two signs. One for a school board person. And one that just says "praying for our country". I havent see a Trump or Harris sign at all. I guess my neighbors are normal people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000 Posted September 29, 2024 54 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Funny, I see more Harris/Walz (and before that Biden) signs. And "in this house" signs. And my neighborhood is probably 50/50, maybe more Trumpy. As I said in the thread about Lefties teaching their kids intolerance, Lefties will ostracize you if you support Trump. When I see those Harris/Walz signs, I just think, "bless your heart." Oh, and Lefties are in plenty of cults. Climate change, woke ideology, Hamas/terrorist lovers, transing kids, TDS, killing unborn children, Antifa, all have maniacal support for their constituents, and like cults, they accept no dissent. It has been shown that humans need some sort of beliefs (some might call a "religion,"), and in the absence of belief in God, they find other things. 100%. The funny thing is that they've simply replaced the God based religions with Liberalism. It's a religion and a cult. So liberals, in effect, are extremely religions people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,372 Posted September 29, 2024 31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Back to the polls: Atlas Intel, the poll which was the most accurate in 2020, and which Jon loves, continues to be an outlier this time around, showing Trump ahead nationally and in 5 of 7 swing states (though oddly enough behind in North Carolina). All of its findings are within the margin of error. It’s an outlier poll because virtually every other poll has her ahead nationally and tied or ahead in the swing states. Being an outlier doesn’t make it wrong. But I have a hard time believing Kamala wins North Carolina but not Pennsylvania or Georgia. That doesn’t seem likely. Wrong, and lying again. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 14 minutes ago, Strike said: Wrong, and lying again. No I’m not: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ check it out, it’s exactly what I wrote. Virtually every other poll has her ahead or tied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 20 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: 100%. The funny thing is that they've simply replaced the God based religions with Liberalism. It's a religion and a cult. So liberals, in effect, are extremely religions people. This is just bullcrap. Every one of the issues that @jerryskids listed has solid reasons why a thoughtful person would be in favor of them. You can disagree with some or all of those reasons (which would, in turn, define you as NOT a liberal) but the reasons are there nonetheless. That is, by definition, the exact opposite of a cult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,372 Posted September 29, 2024 12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No I’m not: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ check it out, it’s exactly what I wrote. Virtually every other poll has her ahead or tied. That links is MISSING polls. I don't even see the Atlas Intel polls you mentioned above. Do you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, Strike said: That links is MISSING polls. I don't even see the Atlas Intel polls you mentioned above. Do you? It’s a link you love to rely on. Or at least you did. Change your mind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000 Posted September 29, 2024 16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This is just bullcrap. Every one of the issues that @jerryskids listed has solid reasons why a thoughtful person would be in favor of them. You can disagree with some or all of those reasons (which would, in turn, define you as NOT a liberal) but the reasons are there nonetheless. That is, by definition, the exact opposite of a cult. Sorry that you have to hear the truth, but the truth you must hear. It's for your own good. You and your side are no different than Weepaws, you just have different religions but religions you both DO have. What i said is indisputable and undeniable. This will help in your deprogramming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,372 Posted September 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s a link you love to rely on. Or at least you did. Change your mind? Why didn't you answer my question? It's a pretty simple yes or no question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted September 29, 2024 3 hours ago, TimHauck said: Do you still believe Kamala Harris has a 78 IQ? I know she is effing stupid and can't even handle a real interview. Easily the stupidest person on issues who has ever ran for office. Do you still believe Hunter's laptop is a Russian hoaxm Or that wearing a paper mask all day saves lives? Or that male/female is not biological? Or that the retarded polls constantly quoted in here which intentionally oversamples Democrats by 7 percent are accurate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 30 minutes ago, Strike said: Why didn't you answer my question? It's a pretty simple yes or no question. No idea, wasn’t looking for it. Your question is really dumb like your entire point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,695 Posted September 29, 2024 50 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This is just bullcrap. Every one of the issues that @jerryskids listed has solid reasons why a thoughtful person would be in favor of them. You can disagree with some or all of those reasons (which would, in turn, define you as NOT a liberal) but the reasons are there nonetheless. That is, by definition, the exact opposite of a cult. Thoughtful, intelligent people can believe in God. People who believe in God can also be in cults. Similarly, using climate change as an example. There are people, myself included, who think we should continue to research improvements in green energy, invest heavily in nuclear, etc. Then there are people like my neighbor (one with a Harris/Walz sign) who once told a group of us that she is disappointed that her son had a child because of climate change. That's Branch Davidian level cultism, although this woman would cry if you asked her to pick up a gun. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Thoughtful, intelligent people can believe in God. People who believe in God can also be in cults. Similarly, using climate change as an example. There are people, myself included, who think we should continue to research improvements in green energy, invest heavily in nuclear, etc. Then there are people like my neighbor (one with a Harris/Walz sign) who once told a group of us that she is disappointed that her son had a child because of climate change. That's Branch Davidian level cultism, although this woman would cry if you asked her to pick up a gun. HTH Still not a cult. An extreme view but not a cult. if the Sierra Club suddenly announced that it discovered that coal no longer contributed to climate change, and then the next day your neighbor said coal was safe, THEN it would be a cult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,372 Posted September 29, 2024 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No idea, wasn’t looking for it. Your question is really dumb like your entire point. ROFLMAO. you don't think it matters that they're ignoring polling from the acknowledged most accurate pollster from the most recent election? You are not a serious poster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,579 Posted September 29, 2024 9 minutes ago, jerryskids said: intelligent people can believe in God intelligent people don’t believe in fairytales Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,580 Posted September 29, 2024 7 minutes ago, Strike said: ROFLMAO. you don't think it matters that they're ignoring polling from the acknowledged most accurate pollster from the most recent election? You are not a serious poster. I find it amusing that you were praising 538 to the rooftops a few months ago and now you’re not. None of this has anything to to with my statement that the Atlas Intel polls are outliers. That’s true by definition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,904 Posted September 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I find it amusing that you were praising 538 to the rooftops a few months ago and now you’re not. None of this has anything to to with my statement that the Atlas Intel polls are outliers. That’s true by definition. I find it amusing that you liberal trolls have so much staying power. But then again, I wouldn't expect you to go outside and exercise or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,713 Posted September 29, 2024 1 hour ago, jonmx said: I know she is effing stupid and can't even handle a real interview. Easily the stupidest person on issues who has ever ran for office. Do you still believe Hunter's laptop is a Russian hoax? Never did Or that wearing a paper mask all day saves lives? Never did, just that masks might reduce cases by somewhere around 10% Or that male/female is not biological? Never did Or that the retarded polls constantly quoted in here which intentionally oversamples Democrats by 7 percent are accurate? No, pretty much all polls are inaccurate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,372 Posted September 29, 2024 18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I find it amusing that you were praising 538 to the rooftops a few months ago and now you’re not. None of this has anything to to with my statement that the Atlas Intel polls are outliers. That’s true by definition. I never praised 5:38 you dumbass. I used them to show you other polling numbers than the ones you cherry pick. I have made very clear over and over again that like Supermike80 I don't trust polls at all. You do seem to live by them though. None of this changes the fact that the site you chose is ignoring polls which makes them uncredible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites