thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said: Next time one of you trannies shoot up something remember the victory lap you're trying to take here, a-hole. Remember, you were the one throwing a GD hissy fit over Jussie Smollett. Go away you phucking phag. The point is this was the act of a crazy person not of a group of people. Everyone should take this as an opportunity to chill the fock out, not go ballistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: So this person was exactly what Republicans say isn't a problem. He honestly was probably some unhinged weirdo who felt Trump was too establishment for the Republicans. Let's wait for the facts, Rusty 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said: Next time one of you trannies shoot up something remember the victory lap you're trying to take here, a-hole. Remember, you were the one throwing a GD hissy fit over Jussie Smollett. Go away you phucking phag. Will you promise to not take a victory lap the next time a tranny shoots ups something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted July 14, 2024 Just now, thegeneral said: The point is this was the act of a crazy person not of a group of people. Everyone should take this as an opportunity to chill the fock out, not go ballistic. Like they do when a brother, a tranny, or a queer gets shot? Fock Squistard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: So this person was exactly what Republicans say isn't a problem. He honestly was probably some unhinged weirdo who felt Trump was too establishment for the Republicans. This is exactly how the Secret Service would have planned an inside job!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 369 Posted July 14, 2024 Bunch of idiots on this site. A Presidential candidate was the target of an assassin and people are running their schticks? It's jagoffs like us, on both sides, that feed the fire with enough bullshit that it triggers people to do what we saw yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 14, 2024 Just now, CaptainObvious1 said: You got a link to my victory lap, TimC0ck? Well you just registered a month ago, and on average a tranny only commits a mass shooting about once every couple years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: So this person was exactly what Republicans say isn't a problem. He honestly was probably some unhinged weirdo who felt Trump was too establishment for the Republicans. Who really knows beyond it being a sick shithead. They’ll keep digging through the dude’s life. Whatever the shooter posted or who he voted for shouldn’t be used as some point scoring thing or as way to label groups of people. The opportunity here is to have these leaders ratchet it back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,105 Posted July 14, 2024 8 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The point is this was the act of a crazy person not of a group of people. Everyone should take this as an opportunity to chill the fock out, not go ballistic. If this information about the shooter is true, then you're right. I can only speak for myself but I also jumped to conclusions and assumed it had to be a liberal. I was wrong. This certainly turns this situation on it's head as to why someone who looks like they were on the right side of the aisle would do this. The motivations are going to be key here, but I think your larger point about "chill the f@ck out" is on point. This situation in particular but in general both sides want to jump to conclusions about this stuff simply because tribalism. We all have to learn to amp it down and the rhetoric that comes from both sides has a lot to do with situations like this a lot of times, IMO. It can be all consuming and social media and media in general is responsible for amping it up to 11 and I'm just as affected by it as anyone else. This has to stop. We're supposed to be a beacon of light for the world and we can't have our elections marred by violence like tin-pot dictatorships around the world. This is exactly what our enemies want. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,672 Posted July 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The point is this was the act of a crazy person not of a group of people. Everyone should take this as an opportunity to chill the fock out, not go ballistic. No one is going ballistic. If someone was going to go ballistic, they already would have. You can drop the chill out stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted July 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Who really knows beyond it being a sick shithead. They’ll keep digging through the dude’s life. Whatever the shooter posted or who he voted for shouldn’t be used as some point scoring thing or as way to label groups of people. The opportunity here is to have these leaders ratchet it back. Yeah as I said initially- this is bad for America and both sides need to ratchet down the rhetoric. It's idiotic at this point and it leads to something like this that is bad, but could've been way worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: If this information about the shooter is true, then you're right. I can only speak for myself but I also jumped to conclusions and assumed it had to be a liberal. I was wrong. This certainly turns this situation on it's head as to why someone who looks like they were on the right side of the aisle would do this. The motivations are going to be key here, but I think your larger point about "chill the f@ck out" is on point. This situation in particular but in general both sides want to jump to conclusions about this stuff simply because tribalism. We all have to learn to amp it down and the rhetoric that comes from both sides has a lot to do with situations like this a lot of times, IMO. It can be all consuming and social media and media in general is responsible for amping it up to 11 and I'm just as affected by it as anyone else. Good post. Although it is still possible he’s a lib that just registered Republican to vote against Trump 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,937 Posted July 14, 2024 https://media.scored.co/scale/3zMk1BJ4yY2gm3vO.png 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted July 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: If this information about the shooter is true, then you're right. I can only speak for myself but I also jumped to conclusions and assumed it had to be a liberal. I was wrong. This certainly turns this situation on it's head as to why someone who looks like they were on the right side of the aisle would do this. The motivations are going to be key here, but I think your larger point about "chill the f@ck out" is on point. This situation in particular but in general both sides want to jump to conclusions about this stuff simply because tribalism. We all have to learn to amp it down and the rhetoric that comes from both sides has a lot to do with situations like this a lot of times, IMO. It can be all consuming and social media and media in general is responsible for amping it up to 11 and I'm just as affected by it as anyone else. This has to stop. We're supposed to be a beacon of light for the world and we can't have our elections marred by violence like tin-pot dictatorships around the world. Credit where credit is due- this is the most level-headed I've seen you be here ever and is far more measured than some other takes from people you would normally align with here. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, nobody said: No one is going ballistic. If someone was going to go ballistic, they already would have. You can drop the chill out stuff. If we’re talking “ballistic” in the world of fantasy football message boards, @Jose M / @Horseman / @RogerDodger certainly went ballistic last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,105 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: Credit where credit is due- this is the most level-headed I've seen you be here ever and is far more measured than some other takes from people you would normally align with here. Thanks, but I have a point of disagreement - I've been level-headed numerous times. You must have missed all those posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, nobody said: No one is going ballistic. If someone was going to go ballistic, they already would have. You can drop the chill out stuff. There are people calling for civil war. Jose m did last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: If this information about the shooter is true, then you're right. I can only speak for myself but I also jumped to conclusions and assumed it had to be a liberal. I was wrong. This certainly turns this situation on it's head as to why someone who looks like they were on the right side of the aisle would do this. The motivations are going to be key here, but I think your larger point about "chill the f@ck out" is on point. This situation in particular but in general both sides want to jump to conclusions about this stuff simply because tribalism. We all have to learn to amp it down and the rhetoric that comes from both sides has a lot to do with situations like this a lot of times, IMO. Appreciate this post. I mean we don’t really know anything. But yeah this is very odd and this kid appears to be just another crazy person - like anyone who shoots into a crowd. They are terrorists plain and simple. They don’t stand for groups of people even if they one time posted a meme or donated to a person. We live in a free society and honestly am kind of shocked this doesn’t happen more often. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 14, 2024 Maga going after dei now, female ss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 10 minutes ago, nobody said: No one is going ballistic. If someone was going to go ballistic, they already would have. You can drop the chill out stuff. I hope you are right. Please remember this if it happens this dude had a “I’m riding with Biden” and “Trump is a Facist” bumper sticker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Maga going after dei now, female ss Including women like libs of tiktok lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted July 14, 2024 9 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Thanks, but I have a point of disagreement - I've been level-headed numerous times. You must have missed all those posts. Either way- this was a level-headed take in this thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,530 Posted July 14, 2024 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Are AR-15’s good from long range? @Engorgeous George @5-Points ? Accuracy is largely dependent on the shooter but yes. AR's are accurate out to 600-800 yards depending on the size of the target, length of the barrel, twist rate, type of optics, wind, etc. This shot would've been pretty easy. It was too close for wind or gravity to come into play. Accuracy at that distance is pretty much all on the shooter. His cold bore shot was on target but Trump turned his head at the last second. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 23 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said: Like they do when a brother, a tranny, or a queer gets shot? Fock Squistard Being freaked out that some assshole thinks they get to kill people in crowds or at schools or bars or whatever is obviously going to enrage people. When it’s a cop or someone in power even more so. Using these tragic moments to then make these blanket and frankly dimwitted, ignorant blanket statements is what I am talking about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 11 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said: How about the dumb broad that works for the MS congressman that said she wishes he hadn’t missed? Or Keith Olverman? You’re a pedo POS Anyone who was saying that last night involved in political campaigns should get shitcanned. What did Olberman say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,988 Posted July 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Anyone who was saying that last night involved in political campaigns should get shitcanned. It's no secret that many Libtards called for his assassination over the past weeks. Do you deny that? Why did secret service wait till after he shot to take him down? Why wasn't that building swept with an agent already on it? Why was the shooter on the roof and how did he get up there with only Trump Supporters noticing?? Something happened here, you can't deny it. This wasn't a lone Wolf, no chance. And now his social media has been scrubbed??? Anyone in security, military or law enforcement knows this was an inside job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Herbivore said: finding this guy hard to believe..he and others saw the shooter crawling with gun on the roof for like 2 to 3 mins..sounds fishy I could see it being pretty spot on from his perspective. His time call outs might be off. But this dude looks a little wild, been drinking beers all day starts telling cops he sees something. It isn’t really clear to them what he is saying and they dismiss it initially. Then start scrambling to figure it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 Just now, Maximum Overkill said: It's no secret that many Libtards called for his assassination over the past weeks. Do you deny that? Why did secret service wait till after he shot to take him down? Why wasn't that building swept with an agent already on it? Why was the shooter on the roof and how did he get up there with only Trump Supporters noticing?? Something happened here, you can't deny it. This wasn't a lone Wolf, no chance. And now his social media has been scrubbed??? Anyone in security, military or law enforcement knows this was an inside job. I am unaware of the call outs for Trump to be assassinated. If we are talking about Twitter people I’m sure that has happened as it has all across the spectrum. To the rest of this I’ll wait and see but initially I would say it is a crazy person with a rifle. I would say you need to not read everything on Twitter as fact. This is why real journalists are often late on news because they are filtering through all the things you are also reading and discarding the BS, verifying what is true, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted July 14, 2024 38 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: If this information about the shooter is true, then you're right. I can only speak for myself but I also jumped to conclusions and assumed it had to be a liberal. I was wrong. This certainly turns this situation on it's head as to why someone who looks like they were on the right side of the aisle would do this. The motivations are going to be key here, but I think your larger point about "chill the f@ck out" is on point. This situation in particular but in general both sides want to jump to conclusions about this stuff simply because tribalism. We all have to learn to amp it down and the rhetoric that comes from both sides has a lot to do with situations like this a lot of times, IMO. It can be all consuming and social media and media in general is responsible for amping it up to 11 and I'm just as affected by it as anyone else. This has to stop. We're supposed to be a beacon of light for the world and we can't have our elections marred by violence like tin-pot dictatorships around the world. This is exactly what our enemies want. More of this, please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,988 Posted July 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Herbivore said: finding this guy hard to believe..he and others saw the shooter crawling with gun on the roof for like 2 to 3 mins..sounds fishy How long do you think it takes to get on a roof and line up a clean shot? Longer than 2 minutes, I can guarantee you that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,988 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: would say you need to not read everything on Twitter as fact. This is why real journalists are often late on news because they are filtering through all the things you are also reading and discarding the BS, verifying what is true, etc. That's not what I'm questioning, read again. Below are facts, not speculation: Why did secret service wait till after he shot to take him down? Why wasn't that building swept with an agent already on it? Why was the shooter on the roof and how did he get up there with only Trump Supporters noticing?? Something happened here, you can't deny it. This wasn't a lone Wolf, no chance. And now his social media has been scrubbed??? Anyone in security, military or law enforcement knows this was an inside job. It takes at least 5 minutes to get on the roof and line up a shot. Facts from someone who did it for a living. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,672 Posted July 14, 2024 33 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I hope you are right. Please remember this if it happens this dude had a “I’m riding with Biden” and “Trump is a Facist” bumper sticker. You're probably confusing me with someone who gives a shìt if either of these shìtbags get put down. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,530 Posted July 14, 2024 9 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: It's no secret that many Libtards called for his assassination over the past weeks. Do you deny that? Why did secret service wait till after he shot to take him down? Why wasn't that building swept with an agent already on it? Why was the shooter on the roof and how did he get up there with only Trump Supporters noticing?? Something happened here, you can't deny it. This wasn't a lone Wolf, no chance. And now his social media has been scrubbed??? Anyone in security, military or law enforcement knows this was an inside job. SS requested additional manpower but were denied. I'm sure they swept that building but they didn't have the bodies to post people there during the speech. I'm still curious about the counter sniper team failing to take him out before he was able to get his shots off. They knew they didn't have anybody on that rooftop. As soon as they saw somebody up there he should've been neutralized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: That's not what I'm questioning, read again. Below are facts, not speculation: Why did secret service wait till after he shot to take him down? Why wasn't that building swept with an agent already on it? Why was the shooter on the roof and how did he get up there with only Trump Supporters noticing?? Something happened here, you can't deny it. This wasn't a lone Wolf, no chance. And now his social media has been scrubbed??? Anyone in security, military or law enforcement knows this was an inside job. It takes at least 5 minutes to get on the roof and line up a shot. Facts from someone who did it for a living. Because mistakes are made and we live in a free society. I don’t know if his social media has been scrubbed, you just read it on some post. We have one interview with one guy saying he saw this guy a few minutes before. We have random videos, people speculating off of that. We don’t know anything really. Last night they thought the shooter was killed in the crowd. Remember? Just calm down and let it get put together. Twitter is not going to figure this out without making all kinds of wrong and frankly crazy speculation. Sometimes on purpose. That’s fine, Twitter and the like is a great source of raw info, but you have to keep it in perspective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: SS requested additional manpower but were denied. I'm sure they swept that building but they didn't have the bodies to post people there during the speech. I'm still curious about the counter sniper team failing to take him out before he was able to get his shots off. They knew they didn't have anybody on that rooftop. As soon as they saw somebody up there he should've been neutralized. The first paragraph makes total sense (was unaware of the request part). I don’t think SS has officially commented yet on the entire situation. They def were not represented in the press conference last night. There report will be it goes without saying highly scrutinized. If someone is crawling on a building and you cannot confirm he has a gun I don’t think they will just shoot them, right? That he got on the building is the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted July 14, 2024 29 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Anyone who was saying that last night involved in political campaigns should get shitcanned. What did Olberman say? That pile of sh1t is posting non stop garbage. Even questioning if it was a shooting. Just 100% scum that simply needs to drop dead. The strangest parts of this are: 12 hours+ afterwards and a) no authorities are confirming Trump's assertion that he was shot (as opposed to the "glass" story or any other explanation) and b) there seem to be few media questions as to why they haven't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, lod001 said: That pile of sh1t is posting non stop garbage. Even questioning if it was a shooting. Just 100% scum that simply needs to drop dead. The strangest parts of this are: 12 hours+ afterwards and a) no authorities are confirming Trump's assertion that he was shot (as opposed to the "glass" story or any other explanation) and b) there seem to be few media questions as to why they haven't. Olberman would probably be best advised to put down his Twitter machine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 14, 2024 7 minutes ago, 5-Points said: SS requested additional manpower but were denied. I'm sure they swept that building but they didn't have the bodies to post people there during the speech. I'm still curious about the counter sniper team failing to take him out before he was able to get his shots off. They knew they didn't have anybody on that rooftop. As soon as they saw somebody up there he should've been neutralized. Neutralized as in killed? How would they have known he wasn’t there for protection like Kyle Rittenhouse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites