squistion 2,201 Posted July 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Because mistakes are made and we live in a free society. I don’t know if his social media has been scrubbed, you just read it on some post. We have one interview with one guy saying he saw this guy a few minutes before. We have random videos, people speculating off of that. We don’t know anything really. Last night they thought the shooter was killed in the crowd. Remember? Just calm down and let it get put together. Twitter is not going to figure this out without making all kinds of wrong and frankly crazy speculation. Sometimes on purpose. That’s fine, Twitter and the like is a great source of raw info, but you have to keep it in perspective. Any proof that his social media has been scrubbed or is that just unfounded speculation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,201 Posted July 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, 5-Points said: SS requested additional manpower but were denied. I'm sure they swept that building but they didn't have the bodies to post people there during the speech. I'm still curious about the counter sniper team failing to take him out before he was able to get his shots off. They knew they didn't have anybody on that rooftop. As soon as they saw somebody up there he should've been neutralized. Not true: https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1812458480676081960 Secret Service goes on the record saying it's not true that the Trump team requested addition security recently and was denied. Spokesperson Anthony Guglielmi: "In fact, we added protective resources & technology & capabilities as part of the increased campaign travel tempo." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The first paragraph makes total sense (was unaware of the request part). I don’t think SS has officially commented yet on the entire situation. They def were not represented in the press conference last night. There report will be it goes without saying highly scrutinized. If someone is crawling on a building and you cannot confirm he has a gun I don’t think they will just shoot them, right? That he got on the building is the problem. Likely fake news. Also there was a dude interviewes who saw the dude crawl on the building with a gun, told a cop who apparently did nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, squistion said: Any proof that his social media has been scrubbed or is that just unfounded speculation? I don’t know. I heavily lean towards this is BS tinhat stuff. I would guess it’s standard to lock accounts when something like this occurs if that even happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted July 14, 2024 29 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I am unaware of the call outs for Trump to be assassinated. If we are talking about Twitter people I’m sure that has happened as it has all across the spectrum. To the rest of this I’ll wait and see but initially I would say it is a crazy person with a rifle. I would say you need to not read everything on Twitter as fact. This is why real journalists are often late on news because they are filtering through all the things you are also reading and discarding the BS, verifying what is true, etc. Not calling for assasination but implying the only way to stop him is to kill him or 'take him out'. https://x.com/DschlopesIsBack/status/1812266958685171937 https://x.com/DschlopesIsBack/status/1812260394452349342 Then there is the POS olberman. https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1812461920508576171 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 14, 2024 Also why is the thread titled "someone", with the first post being about a Democrat. @RLLD do the right thing already Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted July 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, squistion said: Not true: https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1812458480676081960 Secret Service goes on the record saying it's not true that the Trump team requested addition security recently and was denied. Spokesperson Anthony Guglielmi: "In fact, we added protective resources & technology & capabilities as part of the increased campaign travel tempo." Pathetic to believe anyone in this administration. They are proven liars. None of them have any credibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted July 14, 2024 Meh. Who cares what he looks like. He was trying to cash in on an obvious bounty. Sadly, someone will try again until the Regime is removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I don’t know. I heavily lean towards this is BS tinhat stuff. I would guess it’s standard to lock accounts when something like this occurs if that even happened. I haven’t seen any alleged posts that were scrubbed, just profile pages none of which I’ve seen confirmed. If anything was scrubbed he probably did it himself before the shooting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,530 Posted July 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The first paragraph makes total sense (was unaware of the request part). I don’t think SS has officially commented yet on the entire situation. They def were not represented in the press conference last night. There report will be it goes without saying highly scrutinized. If someone is crawling on a building and you cannot confirm he has a gun I don’t think they will just shoot them, right? That he got on the building is the problem. There were two counter snipers looking at him through high powered scopes. If they had him in their sights, they would've been able to see he was armed. I may have just answered one of my own questions right there. Maybe the guy we saw lift his head off his scope wasn't the designated shooter. Maybe the other guy was and that guy was secondary. I don't know but it didn't look right to me. If you have the guy in your sights and he has a rifle aimed at the former potus, secondary or not, you should take the guy out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 Just now, lod001 said: Not calling for assasination but implying the only way to stop him is to kill him or 'take him out'. https://x.com/DschlopesIsBack/status/1812266958685171937 https://x.com/DschlopesIsBack/status/1812260394452349342 Both of those people are well versed enough in media to know better. Terrible use of language. There are probably examples of this across the spectrum. We had the Congresswoman from AZ shot in the head a few years back by a nut while giving a speech. The language probably chilled for about two weeks. Hopefully this time is different (it won’t be). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted July 14, 2024 3 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Biden put a BULLSEYE on Trump. He has basically turned Trump into John Wick. For being ear shot and defiant, nope. Trump is, however in good company by being ear shot. He now stands with Mike Ehrmantraut and Turkey Creek Jack Johnson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted July 14, 2024 23 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I could see it being pretty spot on from his perspective. His time call outs might be off. But this dude looks a little wild, been drinking beers all day starts telling cops he sees something. It isn’t really clear to them what he is saying and they dismiss it initially. Then start scrambling to figure it out. makes sense 18 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: How long do you think it takes to get on a roof and line up a clean shot? Longer than 2 minutes, I can guarantee you that depends I guess..but I don't know. what general wrote does make sense, but I got the feeling it was more pushing a narrative of the secret service was in on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,530 Posted July 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, squistion said: Not true: https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1812458480676081960 Secret Service goes on the record saying it's not true that the Trump team requested addition security recently and was denied. Spokesperson Anthony Guglielmi: "In fact, we added protective resources & technology & capabilities as part of the increased campaign travel tempo." Then the reports I heard were inaccurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: There were two counter snipers looking at him through high powered scopes. If they had him in their sights, they would've been able to see he was armed. I may have just answered one of my own questions right there. Maybe the guy we saw lift his head off his scope wasn't the designated shooter. Maybe the other guy was and that guy was secondary. I don't know but it didn't look right to me. If you have the guy in your sights and he has a rifle aimed at the former potus, secondary or not, you should take the guy out. I would think the most obvious answer would be that they couldn’t tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted July 14, 2024 Libtards set this up. This was a planned effort by the dnc. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Libtards set this up. This was a planned effort by the dnc. No shtick from me here…why do you think this now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted July 14, 2024 10 hours ago, Jose M said: The epitome of the leftards: Round them all up. Looks like Rusty when he was 20. The kid apparently is a registered Republican. All last night you and the MAGAturd moron collectively blamed the left and called this kid a liberal. I kept saying to remain calm and not jump to conclusions, and oh how you idiots continued to lose your minds, tell those who disagreed with you to get out of this thread and jump up and down like a bunch of mad rock apes, spewing all kinds of hate and misinformation. Well, I hope you enjoy my ass this morning along with tasting your eggs, bacon and coffee. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-rally-shooter-identified-rcna161757 Quote Pennsylvania voter records listed a Thomas Matthew Crooks with the same address and birth date as a registered Republican, Nevertheless, we still have a long way to go before reaching any conclusions, but what I do know is that MAGAturds need to dial back all this angry rhetoric and learn how to be informed, reasonable, level-headed people who need to learn how to compromise and figure out ways for all of us to work together instead of dividing the fock out of this country and blaming everyone but themselves for the division. Time to isolate the extremes, which I've been saying for almost four focking years in this forum. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: No shtick from me here…why do you think this now? because he needs to be euthanized Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, 5-Points said: There were two counter snipers looking at him through high powered scopes. If they had him in their sights, they would've been able to see he was armed. I may have just answered one of my own questions right there. Maybe the guy we saw lift his head off his scope wasn't the designated shooter. Maybe the other guy was and that guy was secondary. I don't know but it didn't look right to me. If you have the guy in your sights and he has a rifle aimed at the former potus, secondary or not, you should take the guy out. If this is the guy does his vest mean he wasn’t secret service? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,530 Posted July 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I would think the most obvious answer would be that they couldn’t tell. You may be right. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted July 14, 2024 3 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Can anyone explain why trump was so concerned about getting his shoes before being ushered to safety? Also telling the SS to wait so he can get a photo op? I bet he's so proud of the ratings he's getting right now. He saw the original Die Hard and knows you don't want to be in an emergency situation without your shoes on. They were a gift from his friend, the Devil. Allen Edmunds does not make that particular style of brogues anymore. Special, non-slip soles for descending slippery ramps. He's been looking forward to wedging them far up the ass of ______________ (fill in the blank) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,530 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: If this is the guy does his vest mean he wasn’t secret service? That is the guy and it would appear that he is part of a police swat team rather than SS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, edjr said: because he needs to be euthanized I am genuinely curious as to why people would now think this this morning. The difference between this place and rando person on Twitter is I at least know these personas of posters, so would like to hear why they come to make statements like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,428 Posted July 14, 2024 Pennsylvania voter records listed a Thomas Matthew Crooks with the same address and birth date as a registered Republican Link Sad … more violence from the deranged right. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,201 Posted July 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said: The kid apparently is a registered Republican. All last night you and the MAGAturd moron collectively blamed the left and called this kid a liberal. I kept saying to remain calm and not jump to conclusions, and oh how you idiots continued to lose your minds, tell those who disagreed with you to get out of this thread and jump up and down like a bunch of mad rock apes, spewing all kinds of hate and misinformation. Well, I hope you enjoy my ass this morning along with tasting your eggs, bacon and coffee. I was saying the same thing, that we knew absolutely nothing about the shooter or his motives and to wait until we had some actual facts before we started pointing fingers and attributing blame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: He saw the original Die Hard and knows you don't want to be in an emergency situation without your shoes on. They were a gift from his friend, the Devil. Allen Edmunds does not make that particular style of brogues anymore. Special, non-slip soles for descending slippery ramps. He's been looking forward to wedging them far up the ass of ______________ (fill in the blank) He didn’t want people seeing his lifts in there. But seriously he was probably in shock. That the dude started pumping his fist in one of the most surreal things I have seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted July 14, 2024 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Are AR-15’s good from long range? @Engorgeous George @5-Points ? They are no sniper rifle in their most common caliber, but are effective out to maybe 500 yards. A good shooter, maybe 800 yards. Chambered in .308 .300 win, 6.5 Creedmore, .338 they would be effective further out but also designated as an AR-10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,989 Posted July 14, 2024 11 minutes ago, Herbivore said: makes sense depends I guess..but I don't know. what general wrote does make sense, but I got the feeling it was more pushing a narrative of the secret service was in on it Flat roof with no equipment on it. That means no roof access. He had to put up his own ladder or someone put him there. This is what I see, someone who's pulled high level security. Then, you need to dial in your rifle, position for a clean shot. A lot of uneducated people who aren't familiar with rifles know that you just don't point and shoot. He was dead accurate, Trump just moves at the last millisecond or he'd be dead. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT SECRET SERVICE DIDN'T SEE THIS, IMPOSSIBLE. The Kid had help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted July 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: He didn’t want people seeing his lifts in there. But seriously he was probably in shock. That the dude started pumping his fist in one of the most surreal things I have seen. Staged! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: He didn’t want people seeing his lifts in there. But seriously he was probably in shock. That the dude started pumping his fist in one of the most surreal things I have seen. And telling his crowd to fight. Next few weeks will be interesting. Last time he told a crowd to fight for him they seized the capitol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted July 14, 2024 10 minutes ago, squistion said: I was saying the same thing, that we knew absolutely nothing about the shooter or his motives and to wait until we had some actual facts before we started pointing fingers and attributing blame. What was the motivation for the nitwit who shot up Sandy Hook? Has anyone asked Alex Jones if this was gubment conspiracy and didn’t really happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,673 Posted July 14, 2024 12 minutes ago, MDC said: Pennsylvania voter records listed a Thomas Matthew Crooks with the same address and birth date as a registered Republican Link Sad … more violence from the deranged right. It's such a sad day. So sad this guy decided to troll everyone. So sad. It's just so sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,673 Posted July 14, 2024 Lefties taking a victory lap because the guy was a registered republican. I'm sure that won't come back to bite them in the ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: And telling his crowd to fight. Next few weeks will be interesting. Last time he told a crowd to fight for him they seized the capitol. I got to say his reaction was so many things. It was hardcore badass. The images with the flag in the background legit look like AI generated. Incredible pic. It was also odd that he immediately is telling people to fight like we are in a war or something. I don’t take anything from this and most importantly he turned his head at the perfect moment to not have this be mind bogglingly awful. I think he was already going to win, unless something completely out of the ordinary occurs it is now a lock. It goes without saying after this anything can occur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,989 Posted July 14, 2024 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Are AR-15’s good from long range? @Engorgeous George @5-Points ? Depends on barrel length, chamber size, ammo, scope, etc. They can be very accurate in the right hands. This kid knew what he was doing. If Trump didn't move at the last millisecond he'd be dead. It was a good, clean shot, he squeezed it off a hair late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted July 14, 2024 JFC…the fukin SS agents getting him into the car. Couldn’t even holster her weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted July 14, 2024 ok so you are going this way. we'll see I guess. don't think Trump moved, guy just missed a tough shot. which is good everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted July 14, 2024 Is anyone familiar with this “Demolition Ranch” website / YouTube channel? Do they have a forum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,876 Posted July 14, 2024 There are a lot of sick people out there, on both sides Share this post Link to post Share on other sites