So a person tried to assassinate Trump

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6 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I would not be surprised if someone or some group inside govt (that don't want Trump to get another 4 years running the country) found the asset (Crooks) and offered something to get him to assassinate Trump. I also wouldn't be surprised if we never know since the entity investigating this is part of the govt.

Yeah, typical GC, you will believe whatever you want to believe.

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah, typical GC, you will believe whatever you want to believe.

You can't read and comprehend. I said I wouldn't be surprised, not that it's what I believe. I wouldn't be surprised because it's Donald Trump and there has been a relentless effort for a decade to keep him out of the White House or while he was in the White House oust him.

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39 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Is there a credible report saying the sniper was ordered not to shoot?  Pretty sure that was from 4chan where the person basically admitted they made it up.

You got me there.  I havent went down the rabbit hole.  But its hard to imagine our "well trained" SS couldnt see a guy on the roof with a gun.  I mean those 2 building would be some of thr biggest spots id be watching.  They were right there.  

Bystanders did tell people.  

Idk seems odd to me.  Maybe they totally missed the rougue individual with a gun on a building within easy range.  I guess they are only supposed to be the most well trained people we got at this stuff.  Yeah I guess they just didnt see him. 

Why is our SS this incompetent then now all of a sudden?  Thats a fair question.  

When was the last time someone got a decent shot off at a president?  Whats the point of having a a sniper out looking that way if he cant see some random on a roof by himself?  SS spots the smallest of things every other event they are relied on.  The goofy kid by himself in thr middle of a roof was too discrete tho.  

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9 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

You can't read and comprehend. I said I wouldn't be surprised, not that it's what I believe. I wouldn't be surprised because it's Donald Trump and there has been a relentless effort for a decade to keep him out of the White House or while he was in the White House oust him.

If there is good evidence that Crooks acted alone would you believe it?

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21 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

I would not be surprised if someone or some group inside govt (that don't want Trump to get another 4 years running the country) found the asset (Crooks) and offered something to get him to assassinate Trump. I also wouldn't be surprised if we never know since the entity investigating this is part of the govt.

I am on the fence.  People with whom I associate in the world markets are not all that enthused with Trump.   The military industrial complex does not care for him.  His insistence to limit wars and secure peace was a hit to the bottom line.  If I were to bet money, I would look to the big defense contractors as a likely source of potential support for Crooks.

Trump is now associated with less war and more peace, and I know people who do not take kindly to that. 

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2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

You got me there.  I havent went down the rabbit hole.  But its hard to imagine our "well trained" SS couldnt see a guy on the roof with a gun.  I mean those 2 building would be some of thr biggest spots id be watching.  They were right there.  

Bystanders did tell people.  

Idk seems odd to me.  Maybe they totally missed the rougue individual with a gun on a building within easy range.  I guess they are only supposed to be the most well trained people we got at this stuff.  Yeah I guess they just didnt see him. 

Why is our SS this incompetent then now all of a sudden?  Thats a fair question.  

When was the last time someone got a decent shot off at a president?  Whats the point of having a a sniper out looking that way if he cant see some random on a roof by himself?  SS spots the smallest of things every other event they are relied on.  The goofy kid by himself in thr middle of a roof was too discrete tho.  

They absolutely knew but did nothing about it.  They let it happen or someone failed to tell them to get Trump off the stage.  Things like this don't happen at that level of security.

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Whens the last time a guy got off a good shot on a president?  1981? Over 40 years ago?

Doesnt mean it wouldnt happen again.  

Not surprised it was orange man bad with a total breakdown of SS.   Coincidence is all. 

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

They absolutely knew but did nothing about it.  They let it happen or someone failed to tell them to get Trump off the stage.  Things like this don't happen at that level of security.

I woudlnt think they would either.  And really havent.  

But hey things happen.  Nothing to see.  Its only be 40 some years.  

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Whens the last time a guy got off a good shot on a president?  1981? Over 40 years ago?

Doesnt mean it wouldnt happen again.  

Not surprised it was orange man bad with a total breakdown of SS.   Coincidence is all. 

That slope tho, sheesh...

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

I woudlnt think they would either.  And really havent.  

But hey things happen.  Nothing to see.  Its only be 40 some years.  

Did you watch the video I posted?  Shows that SS knew about the shooter well in advance.  Before he was even on the roof.

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Libs and Conservatives alike dont mind questioning government on various things throughout our history.   

But hey, when its Trump, Libs just say...nah no way.  

So telling.  

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7 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

You got me there.  I havent went down the rabbit hole.  But its hard to imagine our "well trained" SS couldnt see a guy on the roof with a gun.  I mean those 2 building would be some of thr biggest spots id be watching.  They were right there.  

Bystanders did tell people.  

Idk seems odd to me.  Maybe they totally missed the rougue individual with a gun on a building within easy range.  I guess they are only supposed to be the most well trained people we got at this stuff.  Yeah I guess they just didnt see him. 

Why is our SS this incompetent then now all of a sudden?  Thats a fair question.  

When was the last time someone got a decent shot off at a president?  Whats the point of having a a sniper out looking that way if he cant see some random on a roof by himself?  SS spots the smallest of things every other event they are relied on.  The goofy kid by himself in thr middle of a roof was too discrete tho.  

Seems like several different people did see him but when relaying the message to others he went somewhere else.  Sounds like a too many cooks in the kitchen situation where there were a lot of resources but not all working together.

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Hey we need a new JFK thread.  The people who thought the government killed him are dismissive here.  Wonder why?  People still fascinated by it and will go down all sorts of rabbit holes.  Here?  Nah.  Rabbit holes off limits!  

Lol.  You guys tell on yourselves.  

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Just now, TimHauck said:

Seems like several different people did see him but when relaying the message to others he went somewhere else.  Sounds like a too many cooks in the kitchen situation where there were a lot of resources but not all working together.

Idk what you want to chalk it up to.  Im sure you will chalk it up to whatever is easiest for you to continue your act here.  

There were just enough cooks for every other situation for decades.  

Why is our SS so incompetent then?   Maybe we should care about that if thats all it is.   Right or Left that seems like a problem.  

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This isnt some point just an observation.  

If Biden or Kamala had been shot in thr same fashion thr left would be going pillar to post on gun control.  You all know damn well.  

I know a few mentioned it after like hey this is what happenes when a young dude has a AR.  

But that died quick.  Why because they didnt want attention on it?   Gun rights matter sometimes.  This was a perfect situation to beat that drum and call guns a threat to democracy. 

But....crickets.  

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Lets realistically rank what Dems would have liked to happen.  

1. Didnt happen at all.  (This is neck and neck with #2) but I will put it here because ill be nice.  

2. He died

3. An assasination attempt happened.  SS is a joke.  And he survived by an inch.  

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This seems like the lamest assasination attempt of all time.  

Or this 20 year old dweeb is a model of what a US solder is to be and hes just that good.  

You would think these attempts would be done by trained individuals.   With a better plan. 

So one day this dweeb says hey, Trump is coming to my area.  Ill just assume they wont cover these buildings and jump up there with a gun while thousands of people are able to maybe see me.  Pull a position.  Look a snipers death in the eye.  And hell fire 8-10 shots.  

What was his plan if thr buildings were covered?   Did he know they wouldnt be?  Oh he didnt?  What was his original plan?  He guessed that would be thr spot dead nails?  Tell me more..

What a plan.  Who is this Clark Kent in street clothes?  How slick is that guy?  No wonder SS was left with their pants on the ground.  Finster. J. Buckwheat was just elite.   

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I know Libs here have next to no clue about guns.  

But you dont just jump on a roof.  Crawl up quick and fire your gun from what 200 yards in the vicinity.  Then almost hit him in thr head (does actually)  Again maybe he is just Charles Bronson.   

How long was he up there?   It should take far less than 1 minute to see a suspicious dude with a gun on a building.  I have friends who hunt that will fuckin spot a deer from behind a wall.  

That dude had to be up there for a good few minutes.   

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1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

Idk what you want to chalk it up to.  Im sure you will chalk it up to whatever is easiest for you to continue your act here.  

There were just enough cooks for every other situation for decades.  

Why is our SS so incompetent then?   Maybe we should care about that if thats all it is.   Right or Left that seems like a problem.  

I’d believe there may have been someone higher up in the government that might want Trump dead.

I wouldn’t believe that the officers in the field allowed anything to happen.

How many psychos do you think there are trying to kill former Presidents/Presidential candidates?  Maybe the Secret Service has been incompetent for awhile and there just hasn’t been someone dumb enough to try it until now.

And the incompetence in this case extends beyond the federal level.  All these people saying they saw a suspicious guy or whatever and all they do is radio it to someone else, no one actually approached him that I’m aware of, other than the one dude who said Crooks pointed the gun at him which I believe wasn’t until seconds before the shooting IIRC. So the alleged inside job would have to extend all the way to the state and local cops as well.  Just seems like way too many people would have had to have been involved for it to be an inside job IMO.

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47 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

This seems like the lamest assasination attempt of all time.  

Or this 20 year old dweeb is a model of what a US solder is to be and hes just that good.  

You would think these attempts would be done by trained individuals.   With a better plan. 

So one day this dweeb says hey, Trump is coming to my area.  Ill just assume they wont cover these buildings and jump up there with a gun while thousands of people are able to maybe see me.  Pull a position.  Look a snipers death in the eye.  And hell fire 8-10 shots.  

What was his plan if thr buildings were covered?   Did he know they wouldnt be?  Oh he didnt?  What was his original plan?  He guessed that would be thr spot dead nails?  Tell me more..

What a plan.  Who is this Clark Kent in street clothes?  How slick is that guy?  No wonder SS was left with their pants on the ground.  Finster. J. Buckwheat was just elite.   

Well it appears he did scout out the area in prior days.

I’m guessing he had a few areas picked out and decided which one to go for based on what the situation was that day.

If he didn’t see an opening he probably doesn’t try it and waits until Joe Biden or some other famous person came to Pittsburgh so he could try again.

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’d believe there may have been someone higher up in the government that might want Trump dead.

I wouldn’t believe that the officers in the field allowed anything to happen.

How many psychos do you think there are trying to kill former Presidents/Presidential candidates?  

Well, there are you peon liberals to start. 

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21 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Hey we need a new JFK thread. 

Was hopeful Robert Byrd, while on his death bed, would spill the beans on the JFK shooting.  Still hopeful fjb spills the beans on Barry, too.

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15 hours ago, Strike said:

 

Here is the video that comes from.  This line occurs a little after 18:22 on the bodycam clock.  You can hear the shots being fired at 18:11:30.

 

Here is another bodycam video that I believe was newly released.  Based on what’s being said over the radio it sounds like the clock sync ups with the other video (for example around 18:13:20 in both videos it says “a lady’s been shot”), but just before 18:11 on the bodycam clock this is the officer that climbs up the roof and sees Crooks.  
 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

 

lol isn’t that the guy that thinks there were 3 shooters or something?

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18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

lol isn’t that the guy that thinks there were 3 shooters or something?

He's got all kinds of theories.  He's bound to be right on one of them.

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5 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He's got all kinds of theories.  He's bound to be right on one of them.

Liberals denying Trump was shot at. 

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5 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He's got all kinds of theories.  He's bound to be right on one of them.

Then why are you posting that crap?

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local police body cam footage out. This was a straight up from the top hit attempt on a presidential candidate. Folks need to hang for this 

 

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On 8/9/2024 at 8:56 PM, Gepetto said:

Then why are you posting that crap?

Why not?

[seafoam1 2,921]

7 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Why not?

Well, posting crap on the internet is free. Keep it up I guess. 

[Hawkeye21 2,393]

5 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Well, posting crap on the internet is free. Keep it up I guess. 

So... Exactly what you do on the daily?

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You would think they would be on top of their game

 

[Strike 5,418]

Democrat convicted sex offender wanted for threatening Trump's life.  FFS.

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Why would a pedo want Trump dead?  Just doesn’t make sense.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86l4p583y6o

Arizona man who wants to kill Trump caught after manhunt

37 minutes ago

Police have captured an Arizona man who allegedly threatened to kill Donald Trump following a manhunt that unfolded as the former president was visiting the border state.

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/multiple-secret-service-agents-put-on-leave-following-trump-assassination-attempt

At least five members of the U.S. Secret Service (USSS) have been placed on administrative leave following the July 13 assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, Fox News has confirmed.

One member of Trump’s personal protective team and four members of the Secret Service’s Pittsburgh Field Office, including the special agent in charge, have been sidelined nearly six weeks after the incident. The five are still employed but are teleworking and are no longer allowed in the field. They cannot do any investigative work. 

The news comes after the Secret Service concluded internal interviews to understand how Thomas Matthew Crooks was able to fire several shots from the AGR building in Butler. The Secret Service was not able to conduct the interviews right away because the FBI was interviewing them for a separate criminal investigation, according to a source briefed on both probes.

Separately, Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., on Friday revealed that a Secret Service whistleblower has come forward to claim that officials at Secret Service headquarters encouraged agents in charge of the rally not to request any extra security assets in their formal planning request. 

Fox News has also learned that the threat to Trump from Iran was communicated internally at the Secret Service prior to the Butler, Pennsylvania, event and the investigation is likely looking into why the Butler event went forward, given the threat. 

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“Influencers” still claiming Crooks was a “crazed leftist”