HellToupee 1,584 Posted August 12, 2024 Harris promises to go tough on border security The vice president’s forceful remarks came at a rally in Arizona. Democrats have typically shied away from the issue, but Harris’ camp has suggested a more aggressive posture, framing her as tough on the border throughout her career. Harris’ remarks Friday were similar to a new campaign ad up on TV earlier in the morning that pushed a tough-on-immigration message. “As vice president, she backed the toughest border control bill in decades. And as president, she will hire thousands more border agents and crack down on fentanyl and human trafficking. Fixing the border is tough. So is Kamala Harris,” a voice read over videos of Harris’ political career. Josh Ulibarri, an Arizona-based Democratic pollster, said the message was “smart, strategic, aggressive and … well-aligned with what the swingier Arizona audiences need and want to hear from Democrats at this time” — particularly Hispanic men and white suburban women in this border state, he said. “We need to neutralize the [immigration] issue, so we can give clarity to voters on abortion, on economic conversation and the risks Trump presents.” Earlier this year, when Biden still led the ticket, Democrats tried to move to the center on the issue — leaning heavily on the failed bipartisan border security effort in the Senate. But it was not obvious that Harris — who adopted much more progressive stances on immigration as a senator and a presidential candidate in 2019 — would follow suit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted August 12, 2024 She’s been tough. Trump has been weak on this issue. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1erce 88 Posted August 12, 2024 My favorite was her trying to insinuate she had been to the border only for the interviewer to say “you’ve never been to the border” and her responding “I’ve never been to Europe either” She got called out on national television for never having been to the border (after trying to make it seem like she had been) & then doubled down trying to make a joke out of it. And the fact that these far left cultists trust her with ANYTHING is astounding after that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted August 12, 2024 What's she waiting on? Cause a problem, promise to fix it. Focking clown, sadly, Democrats understand this plays with their constituents. Incredibly stupid people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,486 Posted August 12, 2024 Immigrants ruin the country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,947 Posted August 12, 2024 Just now, Cdub100 said: #WhyNotNow? #ShesNotPresidentNow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,835 Posted August 12, 2024 4 minutes ago, squistion said: #ShesNotPresidentNow Oh right, hey I forget wasn't she put in charge of something... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted August 12, 2024 10 minutes ago, squistion said: #ShesNotPresidentNow Aren't you embarrassed typing this? Are you this pathetic in real life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,584 Posted August 12, 2024 10 minutes ago, Reality said: Aren't you embarrassed typing this? Are you this pathetic in real life? I’m guessing 1-no 2-yes 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,947 Posted August 12, 2024 23 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Oh right, hey I forget wasn't she put in charge of something... It didn't really matter, as Biden got Republicans to agree to a bipartisan bill on immigration reform that was practically a wish list for the GOP (even Lindsay Graham praised it) but Trump shot down the deal because he didn't want Biden to be given credit for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted August 12, 2024 Just now, squistion said: Wouldn't have mattered as Biden got Republicans to agree to a bipartisan bill on immigration reform that was practically a wish list for the GOP (even Lindsay Graham praised it) but Trump shot down the deal because he didn't want to be given credit for it. You don't know what was in the bill. You are ignorant of the details. You are not a source of quality information and should be dismissed by all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,584 Posted August 12, 2024 5 minutes ago, squistion said: even Lindsay Graham praised it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237 Posted August 12, 2024 14 minutes ago, squistion said: It didn't really matter, as Biden got Republicans to agree to a bipartisan bill on immigration reform that was practically a wish list for the GOP (even Lindsay Graham praised it) but Trump shot down the deal because he didn't want Biden to be given credit for it. Oh yeah, that bill that only allowed 5000 illegals a day and gave 90 billion more to Ukraine yeah that’s a great bill fock all Republicans and Democrats that voted for that you can shove your bipartisan sh1t up your a$$ they can fix the border without a bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted August 12, 2024 8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Oh yeah, that bill that only allowed 5000 illegals a day and gave 90 billion more to Ukraine yeah that’s a great bill fock all Republicans and Democrats that voted for that you can shove your bipartisan sh1t up your a$$ they can fix the border without a bill The bill didn’t allow 5000 people a day and the money was already given to Ukraine: https://www.sinema.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Bipartisan-Border-Security-Package-Myths-vs-Facts.pdf You’re being fed bullsh!t on this issue. You have been for years. And no we can’t “fix the border” without Congress. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted August 12, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: She’s been tough. Trump has been weak on this issue. “Do not come”. Tough as nails 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted August 12, 2024 It's funny how Trump is HITLER!! when he thinks the border should be secure and there shouldn't be taxing of tips, but queen kameltoe is full on heroic to now claim and pretend to have these views. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted August 12, 2024 She's had 3 and 1/2 years. She is worthless at doing any real work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted August 12, 2024 1 minute ago, Fireballer said: “Do not come”. Tough as nails "Don't!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted August 12, 2024 Just now, Gepetto said: She's had 3 and 1/2 years. She is worthless at doing any real work. She didn’t have any power. She was never a “border czar”. In fact she had nothing to do with the border at all. She was assigned to investigate the roots of the increased migration, which she did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237 Posted August 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The bill didn’t allow 5000 people a day and the money was already given to Ukraine: https://www.sinema.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Bipartisan-Border-Security-Package-Myths-vs-Facts.pdf You’re being fed bullsh!t on this issue. You have been for years. And no we can’t “fix the border” without Congress. Complete lies. We have laws in place to stop illegal immigration. Enact the laws in place. Instead your side will post bullsh1t like the border patrol are whipping illegals there are no asylum seekers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237 Posted August 12, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: She didn’t have any power. She was never a “border czar”. In fact she had nothing to do with the border at all. She was assigned to investigate the roots of the increased migration, which she did. Holy for fock sake you’re not that stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted August 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: She didn’t have any power. She was never a “border czar”. In fact she had nothing to do with the border at all. She was assigned to investigate the roots of the increased migration, which she did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted August 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Complete lies. We have laws in place to stop illegal immigration. Enact the laws in place. Instead your side will post bullsh1t like the border patrol are whipping illegals there are no asylum seekers Of course there are asylum seekers. And refugees. And people who illegally cross the border. And legal entrants to this country who choose to overstay their welcome (by far these are the largest group of undocumented immigrants who come here.) To enforce the laws we already have requires more money for the ICE and patrol. That is the domain of Congress. It was part of the spending package that Trump ordered killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted August 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Holy for fock sake you’re not that stupid What did I get wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted August 12, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: She’s been tough. How could she be tough when she’s never had power to do anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted August 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Exactly what I wrote. She was assigned to look at the root causes and engage in diplomacy with Guatamala, Honduras, El Salvador, etc. Nothing to do with border security. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted August 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, Fireballer said: How could she be tough when she’s never had power to do anything? She was tough on this issue as a prosecutor. Her attitude is tough but also smart. She knows that as a nation we need comprehensive immigration reform. Elect her into office, give her a Congress made up of centrist Democrats and rational Republicans and we can and will solve this issue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,687 Posted August 12, 2024 Electing Kamala would be like hiring the thief who robbed your house to put new locks on the door,' 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,928 Posted August 12, 2024 She’s going to do away with detention centers. Said ICE is like the KKK. So how does she plan on getting tough after laying those plans out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted August 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: She’s going to do away with detention centers. Said ICE is like the KKK. So how does she plan on getting tough after laying those plans out? Her position on ICE has evolved since 2020. Now she knows she needs to compromise with Republicans (the reasonable ones) to get things done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted August 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: She’s going to do away with detention centers. Said ICE is like the KKK. So how does she plan on getting tough after laying those plans out? Also there is a huge difference between “getting tough” and the horrific, bigoted, catastrophic “solutions” you favor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,928 Posted August 12, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Also there is a huge difference between “getting tough” and the horrific, bigoted, catastrophic “solutions” you favor. So kids in cages will be brought back like under Obama/ Biden? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted August 12, 2024 19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Exactly what I wrote. She was assigned to look at the root causes and engage in diplomacy with Guatamala, Honduras, El Salvador, etc. Nothing to do with border security. You’re lying. It’s been laid in front of you many times. She was responsible for well beyond investigating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted August 12, 2024 4 minutes ago, Fireballer said: You’re lying. It’s been laid in front of you many times. She was responsible for well beyond investigating. Tim and the others are in too deep. They'll believe anything at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted August 12, 2024 29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Of course there are asylum seekers. And refugees. And people who illegally cross the border. And legal entrants to this country who choose to overstay their welcome (by far these are the largest group of undocumented immigrants who come here.) To enforce the laws we already have requires more money for the ICE and patrol. That is the domain of Congress. It was part of the spending package that Trump ordered killed. The asylum seeker thing is way overblown. But coming from the guy who didn’t know asylees had to stop in the first country available, it’s not surprising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,928 Posted August 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, Fireballer said: The asylum seeker thing is way overblown. But coming from the guy who didn’t know asylees had to stop in the first country available, it’s not surprising. Tim is completely ignorant about what is going on at the border and with immigration yet he won’t stfu about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,389 Posted August 12, 2024 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: She’s been tough. Trump has been weak on this issue. You can be funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites