TBayXXXVII 2,545 Posted December 30, 2024 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Vick wasn’t bad as an actual QB with the Eagles. Not great, but not bad If that makes you want to pretend that Vick wasn't a terrible QB, then that's fine with me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,545 Posted December 30, 2024 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: So all liberals were and are racist? Yup. 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,866 Posted December 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Yup. 100% lol, and you expect people to take you seriously? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,264 Posted December 30, 2024 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: lol, and you expect people to take you seriously? Doesn't really matter what he expects. He has torpedoed what little he ever had with his statements in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted December 30, 2024 27 minutes ago, TimHauck said: lol, and you expect people to take you seriously? He's not wrong though. That's what you are missing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,264 Posted December 30, 2024 1 minute ago, jbycho said: He's not wrong though. That's what you are missing. Perfect example of the guy that nobody ever took seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted December 30, 2024 4 minutes ago, Fnord said: Perfect example of the guy that nobody ever took seriously. Sure. You do you. Move along. All I said is he isn't wrong on his point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,988 Posted December 30, 2024 Snow White is now a Columbian Cocaine Cartel. You can't make this up "Snow White". If its not Pedos, grooming or Trannies it's drugs with Liberals 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted December 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Bier Meister said: iirc, there was more criticism of mcnabb than vick back then Well, McNabb was the starter. It makes sense he would get the criticism doesn't it? We don't criticize Jarrett Stidham here in Denver either. McNabb was traded and then Vick became the starter Had one good year and it was all downhill from there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted December 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Herbivore said: are you a child? Can't have an intelligent conversation so just go directly to personal attacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,710 Posted December 30, 2024 Just now, Strike said: Well, McNabb was the starter. It makes sense he would get the criticism doesn't it? We don't criticize Jarrett Stidham here in Denver either. McNabb was traded and then Vick became the starter Had one good year and it was all downhill from there. There was a definite uptick for Vick when he went to Phil from Atl. mediocre accuracy and poor td/int ratio iir. my poor memory: Vick scrambles to keep plays alive, then hits crumpler or djax long. Sound right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted December 30, 2024 9 minutes ago, Strike said: Can't have an intelligent conversation so just go directly to personal attacks. sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted December 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, Herbivore said: sure He's not wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted December 30, 2024 3 minutes ago, Bier Meister said: There was a definite uptick for Vick when he went to Phil from Atl. mediocre accuracy and poor td/int ratio iir. my poor memory: Vick scrambles to keep plays alive, then hits crumpler or djax long. Sound right? I don't really remember. I never had anything specifically against Vick, even in Atlanta. But I remember him being the typical running QB who could throw some. He was a somewhat better version of Kordell Stewart. And my thing about ANY player is asking if they can consistently get you reasonably deep in to a playoff run so that your team has a chance to win a championship during their era. And with both of those players the eye test says no. At the end of the day a QB has to be able to accurately THROW the football and read defenses. When you get a couple games in to the playoffs you're going to be playing teams that play real defense and if you can't do those two things you're toast. And the worst thing EVER is having a fools gold player such that your team is OK but not great during their era. And that's what you got with Vick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted December 30, 2024 So who thinks this movie is going to be a success when it comes out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,710 Posted December 30, 2024 5 minutes ago, Strike said: So who thinks this movie is going to be a success when it comes out? For reimagined: liked Aladdin liked lion king Liked beauty and the beast liked Cinderella mulan was better than animated, but meh little mermaid, meh we’ll check it out at some time. Optomistic as they generally do well with the reimagined Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted December 30, 2024 21 minutes ago, jbycho said: He's not wrong. he is a child, who thinks an intelligent conversation involves him ignoring parts of the conversation he doesn't like. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted December 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, Herbivore said: he is a child, who thinks an intelligent conversation involves him ignoring parts of the conversation he doesn't like. What did I ignore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,855 Posted December 30, 2024 Being rebranded as Snow Off-White. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted December 30, 2024 Muh fairytale princess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,866 Posted December 30, 2024 Only in the GC does a thread about Snow White turn into an argument about Michael Vick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted December 30, 2024 The Wiz and West Side Story are great examples of good movies that changed the races of the main characters and modernized the storyline. Those films were almost as good as the original story, but different. The movie of The Wizard of Oz was just tantalizing to the eyes, all actors were filled to the brim with talent, everything about it was great. Hard to beat it, even after all of these years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 30, 2024 Mocha latte and the seven short subservient dudes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 30, 2024 1 minute ago, peenie said: The Wiz and West Side Story are great examples of good movies that changed the races of the main characters and modernized the storyline. Those films were just as good as the original, but different. I never made it farther than maybe 5 minutes into the Wiz. I have not seen any of the West Side Story remake though I have heard good things from folks whose opinions I respect. Of course, I am not much of a musical guy, though I do believe if Randy Marsh ever successfully brings the Woman in White to the stage I would take my wife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted December 30, 2024 10 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Only in the GC does a thread about Snow White turn into an argument about Michael Vick Except that Snow White wasn't really the topic. The topic was race and how they changed the race of Snow White. While a lot of threads do enter tangents this one kind of follows. And, it's all @peenie's fault!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted December 30, 2024 4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I never made it farther than maybe 5 minutes into the Wiz. I have not seen any of the West Side Story remake though I have heard good things from folks whose opinions I respect. Of course, I am not much of a musical guy, though I do believe if Randy Marsh ever successfully brings the Woman in White to the stage I would take my wife. I've taken a 5 minute Wiz once or twice. Mostly when I was in college at the fraternity house. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted December 30, 2024 7 minutes ago, peenie said: The Wiz and West Side Story are great examples of good movies No. "The Wiz" was terrible. The original West Side Story was awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted December 30, 2024 3 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Not that there's anything wrong with that of course. There's a lot of people who are ok with killing dogs for sport. Yep, and those people are psychotic pieces o' shite. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 30, 2024 1 minute ago, DonS said: Yep, and those people are psychotic pieces o' shite. Stop judging Kristi Noem! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,936 Posted December 30, 2024 Speaking of Columbians... https://www.parentherald.com/articles/235714/20241229/washington-teens-charged-adults-after-stabbing-disemboweling-14-year-old-boy-tied-tree.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted December 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said: I never made it farther than maybe 5 minutes into the Wiz. I have not seen any of the West Side Story remake though I have heard good things from folks whose opinions I respect. Of course, I am not much of a musical guy, though I do believe if Randy Marsh ever successfully brings the Woman in White to the stage I would take my wife. I didn't mean watching the West Side Story remake (Lin Manuel), no. I only like the original West Side Story. I meant, that West Side Story itself is a browner/different race version of Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted December 31, 2024 1 hour ago, jbycho said: No. "The Wiz" was terrible. The original West Side Story was awesome. You know..there is an element missing and I blame that on a cultural gap. Black people, who were born at the time, don't look at the Wiz as the Wiz in the movies. We knew of the Wiz before it hit the theaters. It was a Broadway play, and it starred the fabulous Stephanie Mills. In fact, people were terribly disappointed that the original cast wasn't in the movie. Diana Ross was miscast, imo. Michael Jackson was also a bit miscast in comparison to the play, but they wanted to capture a wider audience. The Lion was in the play and in the movie. The Wiz was a hit album. So, really, it didn't matter who was in the movie. But there were some iconic scenes and if you're black, and you're my age, you know them by heart. It's okay if you didn't like it. There are elements you probably didn't understand. The cool thing was that the backdrop was NYC, back when NY was really gritty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted December 31, 2024 2 minutes ago, peenie said: You know..there is an element missing and I blame that on a cultural gap. Black people, who were born at the time, don't look at the Wiz as the Wiz in the movies. We knew of the Wiz before it hit the theaters. It was a Broadway play, and it starred the fabulous Stephanie Mills. In fact, people were terribly disappointed that the original cast wasn't in the movie. Diana Ross was miscast, imo. Michael Jackson was also a bit miscast in comparison to the play, but they wanted to capture a wider audience. The Lion was in the play and in the movie. The Wiz was a hit album. So, really, it didn't matter who was in the movie. But there were some iconic scenes and if you're black, and you're my age, you know them by heart. It's okay if you didn't like it. There are elements you probably didn't understand. I know more about it than you do. It was terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted December 31, 2024 1 minute ago, jbycho said: I know more about it than you do. It was terrible. It wasn't to me. I liked it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted December 31, 2024 3 hours ago, Strike said: What did I ignore? its in my first response to you in this thread on page 3..that more than 1 person in this thread has said Vick sucked. I understand that peenie said "you all", but as an adult in a conversation, you should garner that she implying the sentiment at the time of Vick playing from detractors and specifically Geek detractors was that you can't win with Vick type players. peenie seemed to cite that the league has moved this way. You responded to a post from peenie where you bolded "you guys are still saying Vick sucks". In that post, you said, "no, we're not. if you can't show it, your lying". I pointed out that you were ignoring the first 2 posts on page 3. I thought your argument was childish when you got evidence from Hauck, ignored those posts(ie had more evidence), and then asked for more evidence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted December 31, 2024 4 hours ago, Herbivore said: its in my first response to you in this thread on page 3..that more than 1 person in this thread has said Vick sucked. I understand that peenie said "you all", but as an adult in a conversation, you should garner that she implying the sentiment at the time of Vick playing from detractors and specifically Geek detractors was that you can't win with Vick type players. peenie seemed to cite that the league has moved this way. You responded to a post from peenie where you bolded "you guys are still saying Vick sucks". In that post, you said, "no, we're not. if you can't show it, your lying". I pointed out that you were ignoring the first 2 posts on page 3. I thought your argument was childish when you got evidence from Hauck, ignored those posts(ie had more evidence), and then asked for more evidence. So in your opinion the words "you all" don't mean "you all." OK And the reason I am not confining my criticism of @peenie's post to THIS thread, as you and @TimHauck seem to want to do, is she was talking in a historical sense. She said: Quote For so many years you all and the rest society tried to explain why there were no black quarterbacks So we don't even know WHO she's complaining about trashing Vick. Which is why I asked her to post the historical data showing a significant trashing of Vick. I suspect she'd fine SOME geeks who trashed Vick in the past but a good number like me who said "I have nothing against Vick but he's not going to take you deep in to the playoffs with any regularity." Because QB's at some point have to good passers. But Peenie likes to just throw sh*t out without any backing evidence so when she makes sweeping generalizations I ask her to support them, just like @The Real timschochet who makes sh*t up all the time too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted December 31, 2024 9 hours ago, Strike said: So in your opinion the words "you all" don't mean "you all." OK And the reason I am not confining my criticism of @peenie's post to THIS thread, as you and @TimHauck seem to want to do, is she was talking in a historical sense. She said: So we don't even know WHO she's complaining about trashing Vick. Which is why I asked her to post the historical data showing a significant trashing of Vick. I suspect she'd fine SOME geeks who trashed Vick in the past but a good number like me who said "I have nothing against Vick but he's not going to take you deep in to the playoffs with any regularity." Because QB's at some point have to good passers. But Peenie likes to just throw sh*t out without any backing evidence so when she makes sweeping generalizations I ask her to support them, just like @The Real timschochet who makes sh*t up all the time too. again, this is all why I asked if you are a child. what are you looking for sworn testimonials from tikigods, dank nuggs, and everyother person whoever posted in the geek club. you were given some evidence, you acted as if you were given no evidence. which is then why I wrote, gotta love the geek club, there is no amount of evidence, just deny deny deny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,545 Posted December 31, 2024 20 hours ago, TimHauck said: lol, and you expect people to take you seriously? 20 hours ago, Fnord said: Doesn't really matter what he expects. He has torpedoed what little he ever had with his statements in this thread. I don't ever expect a liberal to take me seriously... they don't care about facts, only feelings. The facts I put out there hurts their feelings, so they obviously wouldn't accept the reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,264 Posted December 31, 2024 7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I don't ever expect a liberal to take me seriously... they don't care about facts, only feelings. The facts I put out there hurts their feelings, so they obviously wouldn't accept the reality. "Facts" like 100% of liberals are racists? Talk about feelings over facts! Nobody should take that seriously. If you honestly believe that you are a MUCH bigger part of the problem than any of those "racist" libs. Know what you'll never see me do? Say something insipid like "100% of conservatives are racist!" Why would I never say that? Because it's not true, it is unAmerican, and it's destructive. But you are one of the dipshits that is ready to commit violence against your fellow Americans over how they vote, so we already know your judgment and critical thinking skills are childish, at best. Grow the fuk up, ya gurgling little pissant baby. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,545 Posted December 31, 2024 1 hour ago, Fnord said: "Facts" like 100% of liberals are racists? Talk about feelings over facts! Nobody should take that seriously. If you honestly believe that you are a MUCH bigger part of the problem than any of those "racist" libs. Know what you'll never see me do? Say something insipid like "100% of conservatives are racist!" Why would I never say that? Because it's not true, it is unAmerican, and it's destructive. But you are one of the dipshits that is ready to commit violence against your fellow Americans over how they vote, so we already know your judgment and critical thinking skills are childish, at best. Grow the fuk up, ya gurgling little pissant baby. Just because you're not an intelligent person, that's not my fault. Maybe look within to be better. Actually pay attention to the world around you instead of listening to morons. Maybe that'll help you learn and not be an ignorant slave to left. This is a you problem, not a me problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites