BudBro 175 Posted January 13 https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-was-pacific-palisades-reservoir-empty-it-gets-worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,053 Posted January 13 It probably wouldn't have made that much of a difference if it had been full. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-10/as-flames-raged-in-palisades-a-key-reservoir-nearby-was-offline State to probe why Pacific Palisades reservoir was offline, empty when firestorm exploded [...] DWP officials have said that demand for water during an unprecedented fire made it impossible to maintain any pressure to hydrants at high elevations. Had the reservoir been operable, water pressure in the Palisades would have lasted longer on Tuesday night, said former DWP general manager Martin Adams, an expert on the city’s water system. But only for a time. “You still would have ended up with serious drops in pressure,” Adams said in an interview Thursday. “Would Santa Ynez [Reservoir] have helped? Yes, to some extent. Would it have saved the day? I don’t think so.” A DWP official acknowledged that the reservoir’s absence likely contributed to some diminished pressure and dry hydrants in upper regions of the Palisades. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,230 Posted January 13 I drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,871 Posted January 13 Oy Vey! Stop asking questions. Just accept there wasn't anything to be done. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,391 Posted January 13 SHHHHHHHHHHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,391 Posted January 13 35 minutes ago, BudBro said: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-was-pacific-palisades-reservoir-empty-it-gets-worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,236 Posted January 13 12 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: I drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry. Fire is the Devil's only friend. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,134 Posted January 13 Because of climate change and racism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted January 13 29 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Oy vey! Stop asking questions. Just accept there wasn't anything to be done. In other words, it was the Jews that caused the reservoir to be empty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted January 13 Two important facts to consider: 1. The Santa Ynez Reservoir in Palisades, which was offline, is not owned or managed by the State of California, but instead by LA County Department of Water and Power. So anyone who attacks Newsom for this is uninformed. 2. According to most experts, including the retired fire chief, if the Santa Ynez Reservoir had been full and online it would have helped only minimally and the effect would not have been substantial: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna187217 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,579 Posted January 13 Why is Lake Mead Empty? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,391 Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Two important facts to consider: 1. The Santa Ynez Reservoir in Palisades, which was offline, is not owned or managed by the State of California, but instead by LA County Department of Water and Power. So anyone who attacks Newsom for this is uninformed. 2. According to most experts, including the retired fire chief, if the Santa Ynez Reservoir had been full and online it would have helped only minimally and the effect would not have been substantial: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna187217 More water would not help! We need more water. STAT! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,856 Posted January 13 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: In other words, it was the Jews that caused the reservoir to be empty. Trump supporters fault. Has nothing to do with a DEI Mayor who slashed Essential Services from the budget. Did I get it right Time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 368 Posted January 13 24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Two important facts to consider: 1. The Santa Ynez Reservoir in Palisades, which was offline, is not owned or managed by the State of California, but instead by LA County Department of Water and Power. So anyone who attacks Newsom for this is uninformed. 2. According to most experts, including the retired fire chief, if the Santa Ynez Reservoir had been full and online it would have helped only minimally and the effect would not have been substantial: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna187217 Fair point on number 1, but on the second point the way fire spreads, minimum impact on day 1 is exponential benefit down the line. How many more flare ups or even large fires started from what could have been extinguished from that minimal help? Obviously we will never know but that seems an odd defense for someone. It's kind of admitting that "we were wrong, but it really wasn't all that bad". It's probably worse than someone who is wrong is admitting. Now, it's fair to mitigate it and say it wouldn't have totally fixed the issue but there is some truth to both sides here it appears. In addition, it goes without saying that to whoever lost their homes and lives may be in shambles in that minimal impact, they'd have preferred their leaders take appropriate action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,135 Posted January 13 Because Republicans weren't in charge, obviously! Didn't you simps know that electing righties guarantees everything runs smoothly, all the time, and all contingencies are planned for at every turn? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,134 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Fnord said: Because Republicans weren't in charge, obviously! Didn't you simps know that electing righties guarantees everything runs smoothly, all the time, and all contingencies are planned for at every turn? You think Desantis wouldnt have made a difference ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,871 Posted January 13 12 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: Fair point on number 1, but on the second point the way fire spreads, minimum impact on day 1 is exponential benefit down the line. How many more flare ups or even large fires started from what could have been extinguished from that minimal help? Obviously we will never know but that seems an odd defense for someone. It's kind of admitting that "we were wrong, but it really wasn't all that bad". It's probably worse than someone who is wrong is admitting. Now, it's fair to mitigate it and say it wouldn't have totally fixed the issue but there is some truth to both sides here it appears. In addition, it goes without saying that to whoever lost their homes and lives may be in shambles in that minimal impact, they'd have preferred their leaders take appropriate action. What's important here is we have gay lezbos in positions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,856 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Cdub100 said: What's important here is we have gay lezbos in positions 4 raging fires, 4 Lesbian Fire Chiefs. Coincidence??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 301 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Alias Detective said: Three things here: 1.) It is a fact that lack of electricity to drive water is an issue. 2.) It is a fact that when winds are blowing 100 mph, it shuts or limits aircrafts' ability to fly water to the fires. 3.) MAGAturds dismiss anything that comes out of the New York Times. I'm not dismissing what the Times has reported. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of MAGAturds picking and choosing what left-leaning news sources report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,391 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Death said: Three things here: 1.) It is a fact that lack of electricity to drive water is an issue. 2.) It is a fact that when winds are blowing 100 mph, it shuts or limits aircrafts' ability to fly water to the fires. 3.) MAGAturds dismiss anything that comes out of the New York Times. I'm not dismissing what the Times has reported. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of MAGAturds picking and choosing what left-leaning news sources report. Just stop it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 301 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Alias Detective said: Just stop it. Facts! Suck it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,135 Posted January 13 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You think Desantis wouldnt have made a difference ? Only when it comes to getting federal aid from Trump. His nose might be far enough up that flabby rear end to get some traction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,856 Posted January 13 Just now, Death said: ) It is a fact that lack of electricity to drive water is an issue. The resivior pumps NEVER LOST POWER. They're powered at the resivior, not in the fire. THE THE RESIVIOR WAS EMPTY!! This fire could of been 100% contained days ago if they accepted help the first time it was offered. The impact would have been way less significant if they had cleared the brush and vegetation but it wasn't in the Budget. 100+ fire trucks were out of commission because the DEI Mayor's budget cuts laid off the necessary Mechanics. But at least they got a beautiful new Tranny Shelter and DEI Training Facility Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,134 Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Fnord said: Only when it comes to getting federal aid from Trump. His nose might be far enough up that flabby rear end to get some traction. Wow. You would think an executive handling natural disasters with aplomb would be above politics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 301 Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: The resivior pumps NEVER LOST POWER. They're powered at the resivior, not in the fire. THE THE RESIVIOR WAS EMPTY!! This fire could of been 100% contained days ago if they accepted help the first time it was offered. The impact would have been way less significant if they had cleared the brush and vegetation but it wasn't in the Budget. 100+ fire trucks were out of commission because the DEI Mayor's budget cuts laid off the necessary Mechanics. But at least they got a beautiful new Tranny Shelter and DEI Training Facility https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/10/us/california-la-fires-emergency-prep-invs/index.html I posted facts at the time, and now we have some additional reporting on the reservoirs. It's a developing story. Calm down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,159 Posted January 13 No time, nor money, when California, And California’s what to spend so much on sex changes on minors. Shame on California, their government, and those that support California by living their. Matthew 8:29. And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee Jesus, thou Son of God? Art thou come to torment us before the time? Indeed just the name of Jesus Christ cause the wicked to death into hiding. Amen Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,391 Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Death said: https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/10/us/california-la-fires-emergency-prep-invs/index.html I posted facts at the time, and now we have some additional reporting on the reservoirs. It's a developing story. Calm down. We don't need no water let the motherfocker burn. Burn mother focker Burn! More water would not help! -Rusty ‘Got dry hydrants’ Part of that investigation is certain to focus on a key ingredient in fighting fires: water. As high winds stoked flames Wednesday morning, firefighters could be heard on radio broadcasts relaying an alarming development. “We’ve lost most of the hydrant pressure,” one firefighter said around 2:45 a.m. as he requested help refilling fire engines, according to a county dispatch recording. “Got dry hydrants,” said another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,412 Posted January 13 there's plenty of reasons, just listen to INFO WARS any one given day and you'll find out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,856 Posted January 13 13 minutes ago, Death said: developing story Stop, you know EXACTLY what happened. The Fires Chief told you in real time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,391 Posted January 13 12 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: We don't need no water let the motherfocker burn. Burn mother focker Burn! More water would not help! -Rusty ‘Got dry hydrants’ Part of that investigation is certain to focus on a key ingredient in fighting fires: water. As high winds stoked flames Wednesday morning, firefighters could be heard on radio broadcasts relaying an alarming development. “We’ve lost most of the hydrant pressure,” one firefighter said around 2:45 a.m. as he requested help refilling fire engines, according to a county dispatch recording. “Got dry hydrants,” said another. 3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Stop, you know EXACTLY what happened. The Fires Chief told you in real time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,236 Posted January 13 51 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: What's important here is we have gay lezbos in positions Gay lezbos is redundant. Lezbos in positions is, I believe, a porn tape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,236 Posted January 13 43 minutes ago, Fnord said: Only when it comes to getting federal aid from Trump. His nose might be far enough up that flabby rear end to get some traction. That is a disturbing thought, particularly since McDonalds curently has the McRib on their menu. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Mark Davis said: Fair point on number 1, but on the second point the way fire spreads, minimum impact on day 1 is exponential benefit down the line. How many more flare ups or even large fires started from what could have been extinguished from that minimal help? Obviously we will never know but that seems an odd defense for someone. It's kind of admitting that "we were wrong, but it really wasn't all that bad". It's probably worse than someone who is wrong is admitting. Now, it's fair to mitigate it and say it wouldn't have totally fixed the issue but there is some truth to both sides here it appears. In addition, it goes without saying that to whoever lost their homes and lives may be in shambles in that minimal impact, they'd have preferred their leaders take appropriate action. It’s not a defense I am making, it’s what the fire chief says. Personally Im not enough of an expert to say. And despite what people may think I don’t have a political axe to grind here. If it could have made a difference and if somebody screwed up I’d like to know and hold them accountable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,871 Posted January 13 21 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Gay lezbos is redundant. Lezbos in positions is, I believe, a porn tape. I'm using the word gay not in the homo way but in the retarded way. Also I'm gay because I didn't finish my sentence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted January 13 20 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Gay lezbos is redundant. Not necessarily, you could be referring to a citizen of the Greek Isle of Lesbos: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbos It has a population of 83,755. Surely some of them are straight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,236 Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Not necessarily, you could be referring to a citizen of the Greek Isle of Lesbos: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbos It has a population of 83,755. Surely some of them are straight? If he was referring to denizens of that Isle he misspelled it and left off the proper capitalization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,053 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Cdub100 said: What's important here is we have gay lezbos in positions Redundant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,225 Posted January 13 Because of DEI lesbians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,159 Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, squistion said: Redundant. 3rd base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
