Why Was Pacific Palisades Reservoir Empty?

[jonnyutah 287]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They were told water wouldn’t have mattered.  And they not only believed it, but repeated it. 

You couldnt have cleared the brush! The terrain is too tough. (Firefighters start clearing brush immediately while battling the fires, showing it is totally possible to clear brush as a prevantitive measure). 

You can't use ocean water, it will kill everything!!! (Ocean water starts being dumped, suddenly those objections go away)

Crews were helpless in these winds! (Buckets somehow effective in these winds) 

 

[thegeneral 3,209]

19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

23 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

They keep saying unprecedented. Like Maui, Colorado, and the tunnel never happened. 

People saved their own houses with hoses and buckets, but 117 million gallons wouldnt have helped.

Good god. Anybody defending the butch crew is just trash. 

They were told water wouldn’t have mattered.  And they not only believed it, but repeated

 

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

2 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

They keep saying unprecedented. Like Maui, Colorado, and the tunnel never happened. 

People saved their own houses with hoses and buckets, but 117 million gallons wouldnt have helped.

Good god. Anybody defending the butch crew is just trash. 

There is no comparison to Maui or Colorado. 

And “Butch Crew”? If you want to see trash look in a mirror. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,988]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They were told water wouldn’t have mattered.  And they not only believed it, but repeated it. 

I guess water doesn't put out fires anymore? 

[Cdub100 3,907]

13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

 

 

I went there because @Cdub100, a known and self-professed Jew hater, wrote “Oy vey” in response to this question. Should I have assumed this was not an anti-Semitic statement? 

Oy Vey!!! I'm not allowed to say Oy Vey? Is that the jew N word or something?

[CaptainObvious1 368]

9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

When idiots like @BirdGang act like they know what’s going on that’s when you know that the world is officially focked up. Man we are in for a long 4 years. All the fools are about to be in charge. Things are going to be so screwed up by the time we get a chance to fix things…makes me shudder to think about it. 

Fix what?  Your side has literally focked up everything for years.  You personally get 95% of what you post wrong because you're an emotional teenager lashing out all the time.  You're losing your sh!t now because your city is burning to the ground, which is caused by a lot of policies of people you voted for.  Dumb ass

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

7 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

Fix what?  Your side has literally focked up everything for years.  You personally get 95% of what you post wrong because you're an emotional teenager lashing out all the time.  You're losing your sh!t now because your city is burning to the ground, which is caused by a lot of policies of people you voted for.  Dumb ass

Exactly 100% of what you write here is the opposite of the truth. Has there ever been a poster less suited to his name? Well maybe @Tree of Knowledge

[squistion 2,198]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Exactly 100% of what you write here is the opposite of the truth. Has there ever been a poster less suited to his name? Well maybe @Tree of Knowledge

I've always felt that Captain Oblivious as a moniker would be more apropos. 

[CaptainObvious1 368]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Exactly 100% of what you write here is the opposite of the truth. Has there ever been a poster less suited to his name? Well maybe @Tree of Knowledge

Sorry the truth burns, buddy

[BirdGang 385]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Exactly 100% of what you write here is the opposite of the truth. Has there ever been a poster less suited to his name? Well maybe @Tree of Knowledge

It’s correct, sorry you are still hiding from reality. You and the other Libs are responsible for it. 

[Horseman 2,458]

I see we've made it to the part where Tim just says "Nah uh, you're wrong!" over and over like a fokng child.  

[Mike Honcho 5,270]

20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Exactly 100% of what you write here is the opposite of the truth. Has there ever been a poster less suited to his name? Well maybe @Tree of Knowledge

Reality

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

7 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I see we've made it to the part where Tim just says "Nah uh, you're wrong!" over and over like a fokng child.  

Because you and others keep repeating tired nonsense. It’s completely absurd to believe that liberal policies or woke or DEI caused this fire. It’s completely absurd to believe that if we had conservatives in charge the fire would have been prevented or more successfully fought. It’s total crap and only a moron would believe such garbage. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,988]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

conservatives

Stop spreading hate and divide. 

DEI Fire Chiefs are blaming the people for this mess. And you're not blaming anyone for the ridiculous budget cuts that defunded emergency services. 

It's on the Mayor, Say it Tim. 

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

Stop spreading hate and divide. 

DEI Fire Chiefs are blaming the people for this mess. And you're not blaming anyone for the ridiculous budget cuts that defunded emergency services. 

It's on the Mayor, Say it Tim. 

I think Karen Bass has done a poor job. I question her competence. I don’t think if she had done a better job it would have made very much of a difference. None of this has anything to do with her race or DEI or any liberal program or ideology. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,855]

27 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Exactly 100% of what you write here is the opposite of the truth. Has there ever been a poster less suited to his name? Well maybe @Tree of Knowledge

As part of the Sioux Tribe, it is tradition that you are given an appropriate tribal name upon reaching adulthood. I was recognized by my Tribe and given this name. I find your slight insensitive and indicative of the underlying racism that drives your everyday behavior.  

[Tree of Knowledge 1,855]

8 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

You couldnt have cleared the brush! The terrain is too tough. (Firefighters start clearing brush immediately while battling the fires, showing it is totally possible to clear brush as a prevantitive measure). 

You can't use ocean water, it will kill everything!!! (Ocean water starts being dumped, suddenly those objections go away)

Crews were helpless in these winds! (Buckets somehow effective in these winds) 

 

Obviously, the mayor and LAFD leadership were more concerned with other types of bushes to clear.  

[Fnord 2,265]

"Why isn't the brush cleared??!!"

Please explain to those of us that understand the California climate how that works. I would love to know how you clear a few hundred thousand acres of dried up grass within a few months every year there's a wet spring. Please, educate us.

[Mike Honcho 5,270]

8 minutes ago, Fnord said:

"Why isn't the brush cleared??!!"

Please explain to those of us that understand the California climate how that works. I would love to know how you clear a few hundred thousand acres of dried up grass within a few months every year there's a wet spring. Please, educate us.

I think it's just sufficient to point fingers and list reasons, let's not get in the muck with solutions. 

[Fnord 2,265]

7 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I think it's just sufficient to point fingers and list reasons, let's not get in the muck with solutions. 

Aaah, the MAGA motto!

[Strike 5,541]

I don't know what's more sad - That this reservoir sat empty for a YEAR or that idiots like @The Real timschochet believe that 117 million gallons of water wouldn't have had an impact on fighting this fire.

[Cdub100 3,907]

50 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Stop spreading hate and divide. 

DEI Fire Chiefs are blaming the people for this mess. And you're not blaming anyone for the ridiculous budget cuts that defunded emergency services. 

It's on the Mayor, Say it Tim. 

What's sad is those same DEI people said they would let a man burn alive because he got himself in that position" and they can't carry them out..

How it didn't fired for that comment is beyond me, but part and parcel for California. Again zero sympathy for the people who continue to vote for this madness.

[Horseman 2,458]

7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

There is no comparison to Maui or Colorado. 
 

Maybe for a brainwashed gimp.  For most people it's pretty easy.  

Comparison: 102 killed in the Maui wild fires. Only 24 25 so far in this round of LA fires.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

I don't know what's more sad - That this reservoir sat empty for a YEAR or that idiots like @The Real timschochet believe that 117 million gallons of water wouldn't have had an impact on fighting this fire.

They got the memo. 

[Horseman 2,458]

30 minutes ago, Fnord said:

"Why isn't the brush cleared??!!"

Please explain to those of us that understand the California climate how that works. I would love to know how you clear a few hundred thousand acres of dried up grass within a few months every year there's a wet spring. Please, educate us.

Brush hogs and ditch diggers.  Holy fok city folk are stupid.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

32 minutes ago, Fnord said:

"Why isn't the brush cleared??!!"

Please explain to those of us that understand the California climate how that works. I would love to know how you clear a few hundred thousand acres of dried up grass within a few months every year there's a wet spring. Please, educate us.

Controlled burn? 

[Strike 5,541]

We can send a man to the Moon but we aren't capable of clearing brush!!!  You can't make this sh*t up!!! 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

15 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

My religious beliefs are none of your concern. My comments about anti-Semitism have nothing to do with my personal identity. I feel the same EXACT way about bigotry against Jews as I do about bigotry against Christians or against Muslims. It’s all disgusting, it all deserves to be called out and condemned. 

How about Scientologists?  Can we at least laugh at them, and maybe the Mormons too.

[thegeneral 3,209]

https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2025-01-13/could-brush-clearance-have-helped-slow-the-spread-of-the-palisades-fire

Reddit has quite a few LA threads from the past getting bumped with locals discussing draconian policies implemented by the city about forced removal of brush and plants from their property 

 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

9 hours ago, thegeneral said:

 

I love this interview because it misses the point more widely than just about any miss in history.  True, once the fires were allowed to get completely out of control all of the resources they have for fighting fires could not have offered instant suppression of all the fires.  The thing is, long before the fires grew completely out of control, when those fires were nascent, a few small acres, adequate water supply and pressure and adequately staffed fire stations with quualified fire figthers could have put those spot fires out and prevented the conflagration.

[Mike Hunt 282]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think Karen Bass has done a poor job. I question her competence. I don’t think if she had done a better job it would have made very much of a difference. None of this has anything to do with her race or DEI or any liberal program or ideology. 

It does a little as she never would have been elected if she were a white Karen.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

18 minutes ago, Strike said:

We can send a man to the Moon but we aren't capable of clearing brush!!!  You can't make this sh*t up!!! 

Well, in fairness, had the path to the moon been upstructed by brush we may never have gotten there.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

"Why isn't the brush cleared??!!"

Please explain to those of us that understand the California climate how that works. I would love to know how you clear a few hundred thousand acres of dried up grass within a few months every year there's a wet spring. Please, educate us.

Goats.  Herds of goats.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

2 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

It does a little as she never would have been elected if she were a white Karen.

She would be unelectable. They would never let her run. Then they claim they dont practice identity politics. 

[Horseman 2,458]

Do any of you realize how hard it is to clear brush?!?!?!?!?

 

[thegeneral 3,209]

14 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I love this interview because it misses the point more widely than just about any miss in history.  True, once the fires were allowed to get completely out of control all of the resources they have for fighting fires could not have offered instant suppression of all the fires.  The thing is, long before the fires grew completely out of control, when those fires were nascent, a few small acres, adequate water supply and pressure and adequately staffed fire stations with quualified fire figthers could have put those spot fires out and prevented the conflagration.

If these fires began in large, somewhat remote canyons then 50 mph blow for a couple days spraying embers thousands of feet, well that seems a like situation that is going to be difficult. 

They will need to try something there as people appear to want to rebuild. Preferably the convo is a good one and not some bitchfest (yeah right), but like people who live in Florida where massive hurricanes roll through every few years, well good luck.

When the blood sucking insurance companies are saying we can’t provide coverage in an area because it’s impossible to make any money here, bad sign.

[Horseman 2,458]

That's metal helmet level stupid.  

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

There is no comparison to Maui or Colorado. 

And “Butch Crew”? If you want to see trash look in a mirror. 

Which Colorado fire?  Storm King, Heyman, Marshall, East Troublsome or one of the ahlf dozen in the last decade that consumed twice as much acerage as all of these present fires combined?  The pine beetle tree kill made this state a tinderbox.  Smart landowners adn home owners did what they could to clear the debris.  If they did enough they saved their homes.  If they did not, their homes and properties were lost.  

 

BTW the canyons here experience hurricane force winds too.  Sort of the nature of canyons.

[thegeneral 3,209]

13 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Goats.  Herds of goats.  

Sure throw goats out there. How many acres can goats clear out? 

[Strike 5,541]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Sure throw goats out there. How many acres can goats clear out? 

More acres than no goats?