Dear Woke People: You Can Stop Misusing the Word "Fascist"

[Patented Phil 1,469]

15 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Poking a bit of fun at someone who has lost all perspective does not mean I have missed developments over the past year.  It means I do not join in the beatification of a venal man who is, essentially, a carpetbagger on conservatism, a johnny come lately to the party who adopted the positions of others, not positions he invented or championed, and who did so for his own glorification.  Trump was desirous of being President to feed his ego and he took the expedience of becoming republican to do so.  Believing Trump is some sort of second coming, as Jonmx's postings imply is worthy of a bit of ridicule.  It may help Jon regain some perspective.  Few things are more dangerous, or ultimately more stupid than acolytes. I was trying to help.

I agree with you about Trump’s narcissism and ego.  That has always been a concern of mine and still is.  But I think you are wrong about him adopting Republican beliefs just to gain the Presidency.  He’s bounced around parties for decades because he doesn’t really fit into any one box.  I think it’s his most remarkable accomplishment that he has so fundamentally changed the Republican platform, notably in the areas of trade, tariffs, foreign policy…. Heck, he’s even cultivated the Unions.  Trump is a lot of things, but he’s not a carpetbagger.

[Voltaire 5,190]

The Girlfriend "hasn't posted here in years." Here I've been assuming he's Gutterboy because the posting style has been indistinguishable but Gutterboy has always owned his posts and has no history of denying that he is whatever the latest alias he uses before.

Is Gutterboy posting under something else?

Maybe I'm out of the loop, I'm not around nearly as much as I used to be to keep up with things.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

10 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The Girlfriend "hasn't posted here in years." Here I've been assuming he's Gutterboy because the posting style has been indistinguishable but Gutterboy has always owned his posts and has no history of denying that he is whatever the latest alias he uses before.

Is Gutterboy posting under something else?

Maybe I'm out of the loop, I'm not around nearly as much as I used to be to keep up with things.

No you’re not. Been getting a lot wrong. 

[Voltaire 5,190]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

No you’re not. Been getting a lot wrong. 

So you believe this is Gutterboy?

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

1 hour ago, Patented Phil said:

I agree with you about Trump’s narcissism and ego.  That has always been a concern of mine and still is.  But I think you are wrong about him adopting Republican beliefs just to gain the Presidency.  He’s bounced around parties for decades because he doesn’t really fit into any one box.  I think it’s his most remarkable accomplishment that he has so fundamentally changed the Republican platform, notably in the areas of trade, tariffs, foreign policy…. Heck, he’s even cultivated the Unions.  Trump is a lot of things, but he’s not a carpetbagger.

Certainly there is ample precedent for me being wrong.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

7 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

So you believe this is Gutterboy?

I believe that you should at least entertain the notion that Rusty is FOS seeing that neither you nor him can provide anything that he hasn’t posted here. Just a thought. Or remain steadfast in your belief that Rusty is a straight player 

[Fnord 2,051]

14 hours ago, jonmx said:

I heard enough of your retardedness to know where you stand.   

You're too big of a beta pvssy to ask me directly. Just keep demonizing your opposition and making assumptions that are wrong. This is how you became a raving lunatic. You simply refuse to hear anything that might challenge you. Fraud.

[jbycho 588]

16 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You're too big of a beta pvssy to ask me directly. Just keep demonizing your opposition and making assumptions that are wrong. This is how you became a raving lunatic. You simply refuse to hear anything that might challenge you. Fraud.

This is the perfect example of a raving liberal lunatic. 

[RLLD 4,143]

It is not clear that the continuance of the failed smear attempts will have any impact other than self soothing.  In fact, we should encourage it. I get the sense that most people are done with these drama queens

[jonmx 2,424]

36 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You're too big of a beta pvssy to ask me directly. Just keep demonizing your opposition and making assumptions that are wrong. This is how you became a raving lunatic. You simply refuse to hear anything that might challenge you. Fraud.

Demonizing?   I am not demonizing.  If you bootlick for the authoritarian bureaucratic-corporate elitist bastards who are systematically eliminating our freedoms, i call you a bootlicker.   Because that is what you are.  Own it retard.  

[jerryskids 6,561]

14 hours ago, Voltaire said:

The Girlfriend "hasn't posted here in years." Here I've been assuming he's Gutterboy because the posting style has been indistinguishable but Gutterboy has always owned his posts and has no history of denying that he is whatever the latest alias he uses before.

Is Gutterboy posting under something else?

Maybe I'm out of the loop, I'm not around nearly as much as I used to be to keep up with things.

 

14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I believe that you should at least entertain the notion that Rusty is FOS seeing that neither you nor him can provide anything that he hasn’t posted here. Just a thought. Or remain steadfast in your belief that Rusty is a straight player 

I don't understand HT's passive aggressive post here, but I can tell you both that The Girlfriend is neither Rusty nor Gutterboy.  It is yet another poster from The Sanctuary.  I remember him from there and not so much here, so I'm not sure you would know much about him.

[seafoam1 2,799]

Just now, jerryskids said:

 

I don't understand HT's passive aggressive post here, but I can tell you both that The Girlfriend is neither Rusty nor Gutterboy.  It is yet another poster from The Sanctuary.  I remember him from there and not so much here, so I'm not sure you would know much about him.

It's pimpledoosh/rusty. He had multiple aliases there as well. 

[Voltaire 5,190]

5 hours ago, jerryskids said:

 

I don't understand HT's passive aggressive post here, but I can tell you both that The Girlfriend is neither Rusty nor Gutterboy.  It is yet another poster from The Sanctuary.  I remember him from there and not so much here, so I'm not sure you would know much about him.

HT has a bone to pick with me for urging him to stop doxxing Rusty two years ago.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

35 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

HT has a bone to pick with me for urging him to stop doxxing Rusty two years ago.

Yeah because I didn’t. Think about it genius, if I have all this ability to doxx using my law enforcement contacts, why Rusty? Why not MDC or Gutterboy, who I have been going at it with a lot longer? You fell for that clowns bullshitt. Think about it.  

[jerryskids 6,561]

6 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

It's pimpledoosh/rusty. He had multiple aliases there as well. 

No, it isn't Rusty.  Also, I'm fairly confident you didn't have an account at the Sanctuary.

I don't know why you are arguing with me on this, but you are wrong, so please just stop.

[Voltaire 5,190]

31 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah because I didn’t. Think about it genius, if I have all this ability to doxx using my law enforcement contacts, why Rusty? Why not MDC or Gutterboy, who I have been going at it with a lot longer? You fell for that clowns bullshitt. Think about it.  

How about just stop giving a sh*t about an incident that happened two years ago? By the way, it looks to me that the thread was deleted, I couldn't find it yesterday. It may not be. Since the search engine here sucks, that could be the problem instead.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

How about just stop giving a sh*t about an incident that happened two years ago? By the way, it looks to me that the thread was deleted, I couldn't find it yesterday. It may not be. Since the search engine here sucks, that could be the problem instead.

Like I said, why would you believe I would go after that Johnny come lately jackass and not the long standing members of my fan club? 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,114]

On 1/28/2025 at 7:11 PM, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Like a lot of other terms, it's lost all meaning when it's used as "everyone we disagree with":.  Very good, but short, explanation of what Fascism is and why you'll be surprised both sides have attribtes of it, but if you're using checkboxes and only selecting SOME of the attributes to call someone a "Fascist", well, then everyone is a Fascist:

 

Good luck. The fascists, aka the left, always accuse others of what they are doing.

[seafoam1 2,799]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

No, it isn't Rusty.  Also, I'm fairly confident you didn't have an account at the Sanctuary.

I don't know why you are arguing with me on this, but you are wrong, so please just stop.

The fact that you think I didn't have an account is damning to your case. So....move on. 

It's pimpledoosh. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

Can't we all just get along?

[squistion 1,947]

3 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Good luck. The fascists, aka the left, always accuse others of what they are doing.

Hitler was on the left? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

5 minutes ago, squistion said:

Hitler was on the left? 

Stalin was. He was worse than Hitler.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Stalin was. He was worse than Hitler.  

And Mao. Those two alone killed more people than damn near all of the right-leaning despots combined in history.

[Death 300]

Your mom is a fascist.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,114]

6 hours ago, squistion said:

Hitler was on the left? 

He was more associated with the left than the right, yes.

[RLLD 4,143]

1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

He was more associated with the left than the right, yes.

I actually equate modern liberalism more with Maoism.  I think one can easily make an argument that both sides of the isle drift into authoritarianism, and perhaps the main reason it seems like Democrats are doing it "more" right now is because they were in power, and abused that power rather prominently. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

Questions thrown out there by liberals to Trump's appointees include,  "Are you in business with Hezbollah?"

"Uh...No."

WTF? 

Republican asks biden appointee to the SC: "Since you accept that men can be women, what's a woman?"

Answer: "Uh.....I don't know. I'm not a biologist."

Yeah, now go make lasting decisions on women's rights. 

 

[avoiding injuries 1,510]

Weird thread…

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

I actually equate modern liberalism more with Maoism.  I think one can easily make an argument that both sides of the isle drift into authoritarianism, and perhaps the main reason it seems like Democrats are doing it "more" right now is because they were in power, and abused that power rather prominently. 

I agree with you.  The American Left is more in line with Marxist/Communist principles now than ever before in their history.  Every election they move closer and closer.  They've even elected a bunch to Congress and had a POTUS candidate who was dangerously close as well.

We don't have a far-right problem in this country, we have a far-left problem.  The OMG! FASCISTS argument is only used as a smoke screen to cover up the fact that the far-left is slowly taking over the Democrat party and is far, far more dangerous.  We've seen the fruits of their work manifest in the last 5-15 years as they've slowly infected our country.

Turns out Joseph McCarthy was right - just about 50 or 60 years too early.

[squistion 1,947]

3 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

He was more associated with the left than the right, yes.

There is no historical basis for your contention that Hitler was more associated with the left than the right. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

Amazing how easy the board is to read when you have the 75 year-old purple-haired hysterical lesbians on the ignore list. 

[RLLD 4,143]

33 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I agree with you.  The American Left is more in line with Marxist/Communist principles now than ever before in their history.  Every election they move closer and closer.  They've even elected a bunch to Congress and had a POTUS candidate who was dangerously close as well.

We don't have a far-right problem in this country, we have a far-left problem.  The OMG! FASCISTS argument is only used as a smoke screen to cover up the fact that the far-left is slowly taking over the Democrat party and is far, far more dangerous.  We've seen the fruits of their work manifest in the last 5-15 years as they've slowly infected our country.

Turns out Joseph McCarthy was right - just about 50 or 60 years too early.

IMHO it seemed to take a turn with Obama, more so in his second term when he just no longer saw a reason to hide his real intentions.   Extremists on the left were given room to operate, and this was an important factor that led to Trump, which then gave extremists on the right more room as they sought to offset the leftists.

This created a pendulum swing, in which we currently reside.  I think we are still in the middle of this swing, so to me....that means....the next Democrat could be even more leftist......

[squistion 1,947]

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Turns out Joseph McCarthy was right

Only on this forum do you find people cheering Joe McCarthy. 

[Qunatity 5]

 

The Tale of Sean O’Reilly: An Irishman’s Struggles in the Big Apple

Sean O’Reilly, born and raised in the gritty neighborhoods of New York City, was an Irishman whose life was a series of failed ventures, each more colorful and absurd than the last. Growing up in the melting pot of Brooklyn, Sean had dreams — big ones. He dreamed of valor, honor, respect, and the kind of life that would make his mother proud.  He dreamed of being a pilot but quickly realized he lacked the intelligence required. But, as it so often goes, life didn’t exactly hand him the success he had imagined. Instead, it offered a bizarre journey through failures, rejections, and ultimately, an existence of online spitefulness.

A Failed Soldier

The story of Sean's misfortunes began when he enlisted in the army. With a deep-rooted sense of duty and the romanticized notions of military life, he thought it would be the perfect way to bring structure to his life and gain a sense of purpose. However, the army quickly proved to be less of a fit for Sean than he had anticipated. His troubles started with basic training. While the other recruits excelled in the grueling physical challenges, Sean struggled. The running, the push-ups, the discipline—it was all too much. His inability to keep up became a subject of mockery, and his once-lofty dream of becoming a decorated soldier quickly faded. His commanding officer had to suggest he reconsider his place in the army, and after months of struggle, Sean was dishonorably discharged, branded as someone unfit for the rigors of military life.

The Police Officer Who Couldn’t Handle the Heat

With his military career in tatters, Sean returned to civilian life, unsure of his next step. But New York’s badge-wearing, law-enforcing power still called to him. Perhaps he could become a police officer, he thought. Maybe this career would finally bring him the sense of authority and respect he was yearning for. He joined the NYPD and, much to everyone’s surprise, he made it through the training. He was now an official officer of the law—or so he thought.

But reality had other plans. The streets of New York were far more complicated than he had ever imagined. One night, after a particularly exhausting shift, Sean was caught off guard during a routine traffic stop. An irate driver, upset about a ticket, tossed a potted plant out of their car window—directly at Sean’s head. The plant hit him squarely in the face, and he was left standing there, dazed and humiliated, as the driver sped off. While other officers would have shrugged off such incidents, Sean couldn’t recover from the public embarrassment. The plant was a symbol of his growing realization that he couldn’t handle the stress, danger, or unpredictability of police work. In time, he quit, leaving the force and retreating further into self-doubt and bitterness.

A Long Search for Love

Having failed in the army and the police force, Sean's personal life seemed equally cursed. He had always envisioned himself as a charming Irishman, someone with the wit and charisma to win a woman’s heart. Yet, as time went on, Sean found it nearly impossible to find someone willing to settle down with him. He tried the bars, the dating apps, the set-ups from friends, but for some inexplicable reason, no one seemed to be interested. Perhaps it was his failure to live up to his own expectations, or maybe it was his growing bitterness that shone through, but his quest for love was a constant struggle. Years passed, and though he had many near-misses, he could never quite get anyone to say "yes" to marriage.

It wasn't until his forties, when he had all but given up, that Sean finally found someone who was willing to marry him. But by that time, the man he had become was far from the idealistic, charming soul he had once hoped to be. His future wife, having known him long enough to accept his flaws, didn’t so much marry him out of love, but perhaps out of sympathy or a lack of better options. Their marriage, if it can even be called that, was mostly a truce—a quiet agreement between two people who had long ago stopped searching for fulfillment in their lives.

The Online Bully

In the quiet years that followed, Sean found solace in a strange new world—the world of online forums. It was a place where anonymity was king, and where he could sit in his recliner and release his frustration without consequence. In this virtual space, Sean became a master of insults and invective. He would spend hours trolling strangers, picking fights in comment sections, and bullying anyone who dared to disagree with him. Whether it was politics, sports, or pop culture, Sean’s opinion was always the loudest, most obnoxious, and often the most wrong. The small victories he gained by getting a rise out of others were the only forms of validation he could muster. Each angry response he got was like a badge of honor, a reminder that he still had some power, even if it was in the most pitiful of places.

As the years went on, Sean’s existence became more and more defined by his online presence. It was easier to be cruel behind a keyboard than to face the reality of his life. He never achieved any of the dreams he once had. Instead, he became an expert at tearing others down from the shadows, offering no value but his own frustration. His life was a quiet rebellion against the successes of others, an online echo chamber where his voice could be heard—albeit for all the wrong reasons.

Conclusion

The life of Sean O’Reilly is one of missed opportunities, personal failures, and eventual bitterness. From the army to the police force to his online escapades, his journey is a tragic reminder of how dreams, when unrealized, can sour a person’s soul. In a city as vast and vibrant as New York, Sean’s life stands as an example of what happens when potential is squandered, and when self-worth is tethered to the approval of others. Whether in uniform or behind a screen, Sean O’Reilly lived his life seeking validation in all the wrong places, never realizing that the only true approval he needed was his own.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

3 hours ago, avoiding injuries said:

Weird thread…

Holy cow you ain’t kidding!

It’s like an old WWF Battle Royale.  Fights breaking out everywhere.

[Qunatity 5]

2 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

Holy cow you ain’t kidding!

It’s like an old WWF Battle Royale.  Fights breaking out everywhere.

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

14 hours ago, squistion said:

Hitler was on the left? 

Yes, he was more left than right. 

[The Girlfriend 208]

Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party are universally classified by historians and political scientists as **far-right**. Here's a concise breakdown of the reasoning:

1. **Ideological Foundations**: 
   - The Nazis emphasized **ultranationalism**, racial hierarchy, and authoritarianism—hallmarks of far-right ideologies. Their focus on Aryan supremacy and anti-Semitism contrasts sharply with left-wing values of equality and internationalism.

2. **Political Actions**:
   - The Nazis violently suppressed leftist movements (communists, socialists, and trade unions) and aligned with conservative elites. The 1934 purge of the socialist-leaning SA (*Night of the Long Knives*) solidified their break from left-wing factions.

3. **Economic Policies**:
   - While the Nazis implemented state intervention (e.g., public works), they preserved capitalist structures, collaborating with industrialists and privatizing some industries. This differs from left-wing socialism, which seeks to dismantle capitalist hierarchies.

4. **Fascism as Far-Right**:
   - Fascism, including Nazism, is academically categorized as far-right due to its emphasis on dictatorship, militarism, and suppression of dissent. Mussolini’s Italy, a fascist regime, is similarly right-wing.

5. **Misleading Party Name**:
   - The term "National Socialist" in the Nazi Party’s name was a strategic tool to coopt working-class support, not a reflection of socialist policies. Actual socialists were among the first targets of Nazi persecution.

**Conclusion**: Despite superficial references to socialism, Hitler’s regime was unequivocally far-right, defined by its nationalism, authoritarianism, and racial extremism. The historical consensus firmly places Nazism on the extreme right of the political spectrum.

[jbycho 588]

1 minute ago, The Girlfriend said:

Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party are universally classified by historians and political scientists as **far-right**. Here's a concise breakdown of the reasoning:

1. **Ideological Foundations**: 
   - The Nazis emphasized **ultranationalism**, racial hierarchy, and authoritarianism—hallmarks of far-right ideologies. Their focus on Aryan supremacy and anti-Semitism contrasts sharply with left-wing values of equality and internationalism.

2. **Political Actions**:
   - The Nazis violently suppressed leftist movements (communists, socialists, and trade unions) and aligned with conservative elites. The 1934 purge of the socialist-leaning SA (*Night of the Long Knives*) solidified their break from left-wing factions.

3. **Economic Policies**:
   - While the Nazis implemented state intervention (e.g., public works), they preserved capitalist structures, collaborating with industrialists and privatizing some industries. This differs from left-wing socialism, which seeks to dismantle capitalist hierarchies.

4. **Fascism as Far-Right**:
   - Fascism, including Nazism, is academically categorized as far-right due to its emphasis on dictatorship, militarism, and suppression of dissent. Mussolini’s Italy, a fascist regime, is similarly right-wing.

5. **Misleading Party Name**:
   - The term "National Socialist" in the Nazi Party’s name was a strategic tool to coopt working-class support, not a reflection of socialist policies. Actual socialists were among the first targets of Nazi persecution.

**Conclusion**: Despite superficial references to socialism, Hitler’s regime was unequivocally far-right, defined by its nationalism, authoritarianism, and racial extremism. The historical consensus firmly places Nazism on the extreme right of the political spectrum.

Rusty is freaking losing it. 

TDS is reducing him to mush. 

[TrailGuy 552]

28 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Yes, he was more left than right. 

Someone failed HS History