Why did Donald Trump win

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

I swear to god liberals don’t believe in anything they are just contrarian to be contrarian, that’s it. If DT tomorrow signed a bill for clean energy, liberals would become the biggest fossil supporters in the world. Very sick disgusting people. 

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

Also good first post @Frozenbeernuts

[Patented Phil 1,469]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is such crap. You’re not “hurting feelings” here; Trump is breaking the law. Just as he did the last time. You’re right that if the country prospers it won’t matter but these policies are awful and they’re not going to cause the country to prosper (I hope I’m wrong about that but I’m not.) 

And stop with the uniparty bullsh!t. It’s a lie and it’s always been a lie. 

What law is he breaking specifically?

[Patented Phil 1,469]

46 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

I swear to god liberals don’t believe in anything they are just contrarian to be contrarian, that’s it. If DT tomorrow signed a bill for clean energy, liberals would become the biggest fossil supporters in the world. Very sick disgusting people. 

So true. . Look at how they turned on Musk - the man who has done more to reduce fossil fuels than any man in the history of the world.

[jonmx 2,429]

5 hours ago, Red White and Blue said:

In another era, you’d be the dimwit most eager to give your hard-earned $ to a snake oil salesman or tent revival preacher.  

I love leftist loons who pose as a centerists.  It us so obvious you are a bootlicker for the deep state.  I really don't give a fuk what a lying retard thinks. 

[jonmx 2,429]

1 hour ago, iam90sbaby said:

I swear to god liberals don’t believe in anything they are just contrarian to be contrarian, that’s it. If DT tomorrow signed a bill for clean energy, liberals would become the biggest fossil supporters in the world. Very sick disgusting people. 

They unknowingly are bootlickers for the deep state.  They love them some powerful centralized authorian power.  In the context of the authoritarian state they endlessly defend, their criticism of Musk and Trump are comical.  They seriously have zero clue the corrupt and evil forces they support.   They will forever remain in denial. 

- Not one of them cares people are being censored

- Not one of them cares people they are robbing billions of taxpayers dollars

- Not one of them cares that they implement programs which spy on average citizens

- Not one of them cares people we have a government which targets people based on who they support

- Not one of them cares people are discriminated against based on race. 

They really don't give a fuk about American values.  All they care about is protecting the fascism of the deep state-corporate alliance which runs this country in secret. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

So now we know that liberals have taken their defense and promotion of pedophilia globally and they are freaking out. Amazing what they have become. 

[Red White and Blue 81]

2 hours ago, jonmx said:

I love leftist loons who pose as a centerists.  It us so obvious you are a bootlicker for the deep state.  I really don't give a fuk what a lying retard thinks. 

I’ve wondered if your handle is parody and you’re just playing the most delusional MAGA assboy on earth. But I think you actually mean it.  

[The Pope 10]

10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

 What exactly is mass rape? 

I'll show you on Sunday. 

[RLLD 4,230]

Democrats Stand Up for the Bureaucrats Against DOGE

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You couldn’t invent a scene that better explains our current politics than the one last week outside the Treasury in Washington. Some genius in the Democratic Party evidently thought it a good idea to put some of the party’s most prominent faces, most notably Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, in front of the cameras to protest Elon Musk’s efforts to get inside the books of the federal government in his presidentially mandated campaign to root out inefficiency.

 

Picking the 20% in every single 80/20 topic is a strategy I guess.  I hope they stick to it, maybe we can prevent these morons from winning more elections, and set the crazy off to the side.

[Thornton Melon 620]

11 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

If you didn't vote for Trump, you really need to realize why he won. Kamala had the corporate media almost exclusively in her corner. Most social media platforms are run by left leaning people.

Most career politicians backed Kamala. If you voted for Kamala, you sided completely with corporate media and career politicians. The opposite of most citizens. Why is this? How was Trump able to convince enough people to vote for him to win, when Kamala had all that backing and massively out raised him?

Tim admitted right after the election was called that he felt like the media didn't accurately portray the race. Of course they didn't! They lie all the time! You think Trump lies? Who is telling you Trump is always lying? The people who lied about how the election was going to turn out.

If you're still a liberal you just don't understand, and I fear you will never understand. Those who voted for Trump saved this country and probably the world. I know some people will laugh at this. You really have no clue how bad it was about to get.

Remember all the rapes being covered up by the UK government so that people didn't realize what a horrible mistake letting in tons of migrants was? Derrick Cheauvin was very close to being the warning to Americans. If you defend yourself you will be prosecuted. You have no idea.

Oh and just wait until you see 9/11 was an inside job. Think about where your allegiance lies when that one fully comes out.

I was with you until the last paragraph 

[BufordT 434]

I didn't read through this so if this was already mentioned, I semi apologize.  All the dem's had to do was endorse a normal, heterosexual, preferably white, male candidate that can speak coherently and he easily beats Trump.  All the over analysis of why trump won or the dem's lost is just that, over analyzing. Trump barely beat two of the most annoying female candidate the dem's could've possible put out there.  He lost to a stuttering, over the hill, bike falling off of, stair falling down, lost on stage, half demented male.  

[Mike Hunt 282]

10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

He won because you’re a sucker. As Trump’s spiritual ancestor said, there’s one born every minute. 

As I told you earlier this thought process is why the dems lost the election and all the houses as you refuse to look in the mirror..and I did not vote for Trump.

 Biden has been in severe decline and basically MIA the last 2 years if not more and should have not run again.  Of course the White House and much of the media tried to his that from the voters. I stated years ago had Biden taken the border seriously Dems would have won. 

Harris would have never made it out of any primary, and to make things worse she chose a Bozo of a running mate in Walz.

If was not the GOP or Dem voters who decided this election.  It was the independent voters who swung to Trump. The GOP voters like the Dem voters would have voted for any candidate their party chose.  The middle vote is the vote that was up for grabs. 

There are suckers for sure, but unfortunately, they are running the DNC.

[RLLD 4,230]

3 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

As I told you earlier this thought process is why the dems lost the election and all the houses as you refuse to look in the mirror..and I did not vote for Trump.

 Biden has been in severe decline and basically MIA the last 2 years if not more and should have not run again.  Of course the White House and much of the media tried to his that from the voters. I stated years ago had Biden taken the border seriously Dems would have won. 

Harris would have never made it out of any primary, and to make things worse she chose a Bozo of a running mate in Walz.

If was not the GOP or Dem voters who decided this election.  It was the independent voters who swung to Trump. The GOP voters like the Dem voters would have voted for any candidate their party chose.  The middle vote is the vote that was up for grabs. 

There are suckers for sure, but unfortunately, they are running the DNC.

Spot on.

Right now Democrats continue to behave like a toddler who was denied the ice cream cone they wanted.   And while some of them are leaning back toward sanity, many remain fixed in their mentality, unable or unwilling to accept they have been wrong.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Charles Schumer, Jerry Nadler, Jaime Raskin, Kamala Harris, Tim Walz………..

[jonmx 2,429]

18 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

As I told you earlier this thought process is why the dems lost the election and all the houses as you refuse to look in the mirror..and I did not vote for Trump.

 Biden has been in severe decline and basically MIA the last 2 years if not more and should have not run again.  Of course the White House and much of the media tried to his that from the voters. I stated years ago had Biden taken the border seriously Dems would have won. 

Harris would have never made it out of any primary, and to make things worse she chose a Bozo of a running mate in Walz.

If was not the GOP or Dem voters who decided this election.  It was the independent voters who swung to Trump. The GOP voters like the Dem voters would have voted for any candidate their party chose.  The middle vote is the vote that was up for grabs. 

There are suckers for sure, but unfortunately, they are running the DNC.

I disagree.  Biden took the border issue very seriously.  He actively recruited foreign countries to dump their most undesirables into this country.  He implemented a policy was gave them all classifications as asylum-seekers including make an app to make applications quick and automatic.  Biden diverted other funding from places like FEMA to house them in luxurious hotels, he charted planes to fly them to various friendly cities around the country, gave them prepaid credit cards for food and clothing, and made zero effort to perform even the most basic screening. 

There is a reason we had a 3x to 4x uptick in illegals during the Biden years.  It was not that Biden did not take the border issue seriously.  Biden seriously implemented a stealth plan to ensure mass migration of illegals into this country. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Charles Schumer, Jerry Nadler, Jaime Raskin, Kamala Harris, Tim Walz………..

With The Squad providing background vocals.  For the life of me I’ll never understand how anyone could vote for these bozos.  I guess there’s a lot of mental illness in the country.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

23 minutes ago, Thornton Melon said:

I was with you until the last paragraph 

9/11 files are being declassified. There doesn't need to be speculation any more because the truth will come out.

Those pilots were trained at a CIA camp.

The Jews who worked in the towers somehow knew not to go to work that day.

At the very least Isreal was behind it, our government knew about that, and they doubled down on "Isreal is our greatest ally".

Think about the insanity from our government. How would it be so outside the realm of possibility that they would allow 9/11 to happen?

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Just now, Patented Phil said:

With The Squad providing background vocals.  For the life of me I’ll never understand how anyone could vote for these bozos.  I guess there’s a lot of mental illness in the country.

Elizabeth Warren is so obnoxiously squealy, that I would vote the opposite way just so I didn't need to hear her voice any more.

There's also a decent chance that those votes are rigged. Cali is more red than they want everyone to believe.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

With The Squad providing background vocals.  For the life of me I’ll never understand how anyone could vote for these bozos.  I guess there’s a lot of mental illness in the country.

I didn’t even get to them. I was just sticking with the “leadership”. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,429]

Just now, Frozenbeernuts said:

Elizabeth Warren is so obnoxiously squealy, that I would vote the opposite way just so I didn't need to hear her voice any more.

There's also a decent chance that those votes are rigged. Cali is more red than they want everyone to believe.

Her and Bernie are completely exposed.  Two gigantic phonies. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

7 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I disagree.  Biden took the border issue very seriously.  He actively recruited foreign countries to dump their most undesirables into this country.  He implemented a policy was gave them all classifications as asylum-seekers, he diverted other funding from places like FEMA to house them in luxurious hotels, he charted planes to fly them to various friendly cities around the country, gave them prepaid credit cards for food and clothing, and made zero effort to perform even the most basic screening.  There is a reason we had a 3x to 4x uptick in illegals during the Biden years. 

I’m not exaggerating when I say this - Biden opening up the borders and flooding the country with illegal aliens was nothing short of treason.

[Mike Hunt 282]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Charles Schumer, Jerry Nadler, Jaime Raskin, Kamala Harris, Tim Walz………..

 

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Charles Schumer, Jerry Nadler, Jaime Raskin, Kamala Harris, Tim Walz………..

I’ve always thought it was funny that we probably would’ve never have gotten a trump presidency if dems didn’t fock Bernie in 2016, a left wing populist 

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

6 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

9/11 files are being declassified. There doesn't need to be speculation any more because the truth will come out.

Those pilots were trained at a CIA camp.

The Jews who worked in the towers somehow knew not to go to work that day.

At the very least Isreal was behind it, our government knew about that, and they doubled down on "Isreal is our greatest ally".

Think about the insanity from our government. How would it be so outside the realm of possibility that they would allow 9/11 to happen?

Dancing Israelis 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

3 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

9/11 files are being declassified. There doesn't need to be speculation any more because the truth will come out.

Those pilots were trained at a CIA camp.

The Jews who worked in the towers somehow knew not to go to work that day.

At the very least Isreal was behind it, our government knew about that, and they doubled down on "Isreal is our greatest ally".

Think about the insanity from our government. How would it be so outside the realm of possibility that they would allow 9/11 to happen?

I’ve mentioned this before in here, but I have firsthand knowledge that a well known, Jewish owned internet company knew about 9/11 on 9/10.  I reported it to the FBI and never heard back from them.

[Thornton Melon 620]

8 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

9/11 files are being declassified. There doesn't need to be speculation any more because the truth will come out.

Those pilots were trained at a CIA camp.

The Jews who worked in the towers somehow knew not to go to work that day.

At the very least Isreal was behind it, our government knew about that, and they doubled down on "Isreal is our greatest ally".

Think about the insanity from our government. How would it be so outside the realm of possibility that they would allow 9/11 to happen?

Our government is too incompetent to pull something like this off.

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

5 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I’ve mentioned this before in here, but I have firsthand knowledge that a well known, Jewish owned internet company knew about 9/11 on 9/10.  

No you don’t 

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

14 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

9/11 files are being declassified. There doesn't need to be speculation any more because the truth will come out.

Those pilots were trained at a CIA camp.

The Jews who worked in the towers somehow knew not to go to work that day.

At the very least Isreal was behind it, our government knew about that, and they doubled down on "Isreal is our greatest ally".

Think about the insanity from our government. How would it be so outside the realm of possibility that they would allow 9/11 to happen?

Curious to see if any so-called “conservatives” here will condemn this post. I doubt it. 

[supermike80 1,910]

Trump won for a lot of reasons.  But I feel the democrat party has still not fully grasped what went wrong.  Yes the economy was and is important.  Yes immigration was and is important.  But Kamala barely spoke about these issues.

The left can blame racism, misogyny, etc etc.  But they have yet to admit the reality.  Kamala was a bad candidate. Historically bad.  The left doesn't wanna say that, because she's a black, indian female.  But that's what it was.  

Since 2020, the left has totally and completely focused on Trump Trump Trump.  The acronym "TDS" is used a lot and I believe it truly fits here. They were so utterly focused on Trump they failed to see themselves.  Biden's mental decline and the lack of any real serious candidates that could challenge Trump in an election.  They are still doing this by the way.  

The "I'm not Trump" method of trying to win an election wasn't good enough.  Now it may have been if the dems were able to put up a solid candidate, but Kamala simply wasn't that person.

Simply, Trump lost because Kamala was not a good candidate.  Not even close.   It's about as simple as that to me. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,855]

15 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I’m not exaggerating when I say this - Biden opening up the borders and flooding the country with illegal aliens was nothing short of treason.

Based upon what has come out in the last few months, Biden probably didn’t know or grasp the full impact of what was going on in his name.  That is also nothing short of treason.  

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

40 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

As I told you earlier this thought process is why the dems lost the election and all the houses as you refuse to look in the mirror..and I did not vote for Trump.

 Biden has been in severe decline and basically MIA the last 2 years if not more and should have not run again.  Of course the White House and much of the media tried to his that from the voters. I stated years ago had Biden taken the border seriously Dems would have won. 

Harris would have never made it out of any primary, and to make things worse she chose a Bozo of a running mate in Walz.

If was not the GOP or Dem voters who decided this election.  It was the independent voters who swung to Trump. The GOP voters like the Dem voters would have voted for any candidate their party chose.  The middle vote is the vote that was up for grabs. 

There are suckers for sure, but unfortunately, they are running the DNC.

Here’s the two problems  with your analysis: 

1. Democrats aren’t going to change. They’re still going to be liberal and still going to be woke. 

2. Democrats are going to win big in 2026, and win back the Presidency in 2028 or at the latest 2032. How will you explain it? 

[Thornton Melon 620]

12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Curious to see if any so-called “conservatives” here will condemn this post. I doubt it. 

I didn't condemn it, but I did call it a crock of shight. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

33 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No you don’t 

I really don’t give a shitt if you believe me or not.  It happened, and I’ve talked about in here before.

Here is all I’m willing to say on it.  I worked for a financial services company at the time, and for 3 years I had been trying to convince one of my client companies to purchase a financial product.  I quoted the product each and every year, but to no avail.  At 3:00 on 9/10 their agent called me saying that they wanted to do the deal - TODAY.  The deal would have resulted in a financial windfall for the company - anywhere from $10 to $20 million - due solely to what happened in NYC on 9/11.  It was a tricky transaction and involved the sign off of a third party.  Despite my best efforts I couldn’t get the deal consummated by close of business at 5:00.

I was working with about 4 other people on the transaction, and each one asked the same question, for which I never got a good answer - “Why do they need this TODAY?”

No way this was coincidence.  Not a chance in hell.  I reported it to the local FBI office and the guy I spoke with was VERY interested.  He said to save all my notes, call logs, and file documentation - and that someone would be reaching out to me shortly.  I never heard back from them.

Like I said, this was a very well connected, Jewish owned internet company.  They clearly had intell that something big was being planned in NYC.  They were either tipped off by Mossad or saw the online chatter themselves.  I don’t think they were in on it, but they definitely knew there was a highly credible, specific threat.

[Strike 5,541]

8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is such crap. You’re not “hurting feelings” here; Trump is breaking the law. Just as he did the last time. You’re right that if the country prospers it won’t matter but these policies are awful and they’re not going to cause the country to prosper (I hope I’m wrong about that but I’m not.) 

And stop with the uniparty bullsh!t. It’s a lie and it’s always been a lie. 

Listen Sh*t for brains.  You don't get to talk about "breaking the law".  EVER.  You pulled this crap in a thread last week too.  I posted that ti's funny how you always pull that crap but pointed out that your stated position is that anyone should break the law re: immigration, and that the proper way to deal with immigration if you don't like the laws is through changing the laws but until that happens we should enforce our immigration law as it currently stands.  You conveniently IGNORED that post.  Total CRICKETS from you.  You're a hypocritical POS who doesn't get to talk about anyone breaking the law.  EVER.  Because you ENDORSE the law being broken when it suits you and try to use it as a tool against policies you don't like. 

We'll see if Trump is "breaking the law."  But the FACT is that he is doing exactly what he ran on.  So suck it.

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I really don’t give a if you believe me or not.  It happened, and I’ve talked about in here before.

I had been trying to convince one of my client companies to purchase a financial product for 3 years to no avail.  Their agent called me at 3:00 on 9/10 saying they wanted to do the deal - TODAY.  The deal would have resulted in a financial windfall for the company - anywhere from $10 to $20 million - due solely to what happened in NYC on 9/11.  It was a tricky transaction and involved the sign off of a third party.  Despite my best efforts I couldn’t get the deal consummated by close of business at 5:00.

I was working with about 4 other people on the transaction, and each one asked the same question, for which I never got a good answer - “Why do they need this TODAY?”

No way this was coincidence.  Not a chance in hell.  I reported it to the local FBI office and the guy I spoke with was VERY interested.  He said to save all my notes, call logs, and file documentation - and that someone would be reaching out to me shortly.  I never heard back from them.

1. You don’t have firsthand knowledge that they knew anything about 9/11, which is what you wrote. You suspect they knew something, that’s all. Which is meaningless. 
2. You wrote “Jewish owned company.” I suspect that means that the ownership had a Jewish sounding surname. Unfortunately you wrote this in response to @Frozenbeernuts anti-Semitic screed accusing Israel of being behind 9/11. Very unfortunate for you because by doing so you appear to agree with, or at least accept the possibility of, his bigoted nonsense. But you’re welcome to repudiate that.  

[RLLD 4,230]

40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Here’s the two problems  with your analysis: 

1. Democrats aren’t going to change. They’re still going to be liberal and still going to be woke. 

 

I hope you are correct in this assertion.  We will have to wait and see.  But I look at the inclination of Democrats to not learn, and to remain on the same course as very helpful in electing Trump.  I have maintained this all along.

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Listen Sh*t for brains.  You don't get to talk about "breaking the law".  EVER.  You pulled this crap in a thread last week too.  I posted that ti's funny how you always pull that crap but pointed out that your stated position is that anyone should break the law re: immigration, and that the proper way to deal with immigration if you don't like the laws is through changing the laws but until that happens we should enforce our immigration law as it currently stands.  You conveniently IGNORED that post.  Total CRICKETS from you.  You're a hypocritical POS who doesn't get to talk about anyone breaking the law.  EVER.  Because you ENDORSE the law being broken when it suits you and try to use it as a tool against policies you don't like. 

We'll see if Trump is "breaking the law."  But the FACT is that he is doing exactly what he ran on.  So suck it.

I didn’t ignore it. I read everyone of your posts. I don’t always respond because sometimes you write things so stupid that I feel bad for you and would prefer not to highlight your idiocy. That was such an instance. 

I will repeat my earlier argument that sometimes in rare instances it’s justifiable to disobey laws if those laws are clearly immoral. This principle was established by the United States at the Nuremberg Trials when it was determined that military officers, civil servants and private citizens had a moral duty to refuse to obey immoral laws or instructions. This principle does not apply to most instances and it certainly doesn’t apply to corrupt Donald Trump. So no I’m not a hypocrite and I will continue to call Trump a lawbreaker and continue to call you a supporter of lawbreaking. Suck it right back. 

[The Real timschochet 6,763]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

 

I hope you are correct in this assertion.  We will have to wait and see.  But I look at the inclination of Democrats to not learn, and to remain on the same course as very helpful in electing Trump.  I have maintained this all along.

How will you explain it when Democrats win again as inevitably they will? 

[RLLD 4,230]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

How will you explain it when Democrats win again as inevitably they will? 

If it should arise that Democrats return to a more centrist and sanity-driven set of policies I absolutely think it makes them more competitive.

If they do not, they will NOT win.  Its really that simple.  You cannot strap your wagon to the 20% side of every issue and expect to win.

All you and yours have to do is win back some of the independents, thats it, but insisting on the way you all have been behaving is not the path to that.