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Just now, Horseman said:

⬆️ Says he'd sleep with a tranny if he wasn't married.  FACT. 

Sure, it was a what if under certain conditions. Pure speculation. Not a reality situation like it may have been in your case…

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

“My side” is the trustworthy mainstream media. (Not 100% trustworthy but at least the most reliable) I don’t watch crap on TikTok or YouTube. If that’s cowardly and uninformed I don’t know what to tell you. The blowhard part is probably right though. 

No, no you don’t even watch source material. In this case, it would be the full 50 minute press conference, which is readily available anywhere on the Internet.  How can you and the other Leftists in here talk like you know how and why that whole shitt-show went down when you won’t even watch how it all developed.  You base your entire assessment on a 4 minute video clip out of a full 50 minute press conference.  So once again, until you start actually watching and reading the source material, stfu.

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This is an 11 year war, not a 3 year war. And I'd argue it started more as a Civil War and resulted when the govt. was overthrown in early 2014 a direct result of the interference done by the United States.

 

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Just now, Patented Phil said:

No, no you don’t even watch source material. In this case, it would be the full 50 minute press conference, which is readily available anywhere on the Internet.  How can you and the other Leftists in here talk like you know how and why that whole shitt-show went down when you won’t even watch how it all developed.  You base your entire assessment on a 4 minute video clip out of a full 50 minute press conference.  So once again, until you start actually watching and reading the source material, stfu.

In this case I watched the full 50’minutes last night- it was actually after you posted that I should so thanks for that. I don’t normally watch such videos because they’re heavily edited. This was an exception. 
 

After watching it I confirmed my opinion that Trump and Vance behaved liked embarrassing jerks and that Zelensky, though not blameless, was basically the good guy. If anything I believed that even stronger than before. That is my honest opinion and I know that your honest opinion is different. I already discussed this last night in an earlier post. It appears our perspectives are shaded by our political views. But I’m firmly convinced I’m right. 

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4 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

No, no you don’t even watch source material. In this case, it would be the full 50 minute press conference, which is readily available anywhere on the Internet.  How can you and the other Leftists in here talk like you know how and why that whole shitt-show went down when you won’t even watch how it all developed.  You base your entire assessment on a 4 minute video clip out of a full 50 minute press conference.  So once again, until you start actually watching and reading the source material, stfu.

He needs to consult Maddow before he gets back to you on this. 

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7 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

This is an 11 year war, not a 3 year war. And I'd argue it started more as a Civil War and resulted when the govt. was overthrown in early 2014 a direct result of the interference done by the United States.

You remind me of the Iran defenders who, whenever the Mullahs do something awful, remind us that this is all the USA’s fault because we overthrew Mossedegh in 1953 and supported the Shah. Well Fock that. The USA makes mistakes sure and sometimes we really screw up. But you know what we don’t do? We don’t go around deliberately bombing schools and hospitals. The Russians have behaved like criminals here and we’re not responsible for that and neither is Zelensky. 

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4 minutes ago, jbycho said:

He needs to consult Maddow before he gets back to you on this. 

Better than consulting Trump. I prefer Maddow because her d!ck is bigger than the President’s. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Better than consulting Trump. I prefer Maddow because her d!ck is bigger than the President’s. 

If this is your way of coming out of the closet, good for you. But the lack of intelligence you display, at least on this site, is off the charts.  

Follow the brain washed lemmings Tim, that sounds like a you problem. The rest of us are all good. :thumbsup:

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19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sure.

⬆️ Tranny catcher 

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31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

“My side” is the trustworthy mainstream media. (Not 100% trustworthy but at least the most reliable) I don’t watch crap on TikTok or YouTube. If that’s cowardly and uninformed I don’t know what to tell you. The blowhard part is probably right though. 

That’s the  same media that told you Biden had a stutter and not cognitive issues. Trust away cuck. 

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16 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Lies aren’t impeachable  but libtards like to make new things up so not surprised 

thanks for playing. 

Tell that to Bill Clinton. 

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Tiny Z didnt learn anything.  Admits to Brett Baier that he was told by numerous law makers to just concentrate on the mineral deal and bring up security guarantees in step 2.  He then kept going on and on, not unlike the libs arguing in here, repeating the same crap.  

Had nothing but stuttering non-answer to Grahams comments.  

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4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Libtards think this is worse than going to war over non existent WMD’s. 

Lied about that war. Vietnam was a farce. The US funded ISIS and Al Qaida in some form. But now it's legit. They don't lie about wars any more. Ok.

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One excuse after another. Tiny Z needs to go.  Door is down the hall to the left.  

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Starmer hugs the Zidget today.  What a cuck.

Never felt more justified.

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1 hour ago, Horseman said:

Netanyahu behaved when he visited. He was very gracious.   It's like you don't have a clue.  

He doesn’t. He’s not smart enough to do more than regurgitate what MSNBC feeds him. 

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Tucker Carlson explains it well

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1895883813223354871?s=19

One of the most striking things about yesterday’s Zelensky press conference was Lindsey Graham’s reaction to it. The two are old friends, but Graham disavowed him within the hour. This was more than just transactional disloyalty. It was scapegoating. Lindsey Graham knows what’s coming. Over the past three years, with the tacit support of its western patrons, the Ukrainian government has committed a remarkable number of serious crimes. The Ukrainians sold huge quantities of American weapons on the international black market at twenty cents on the dollar. These weapons are now in the hands of armed groups around the world, including Hamas, the Mexican drug cartels and the forces now controlling Syria. God knows what the Ukrainians have done with the pathogens in American biolabs in their country. Even US intel agencies aren’t sure. The Ukrainians have also murdered a number of people in various countries in political assassinations, and tried to murder others, including American journalists and a European head of state. This is all true, and it’s all going to come out at some point. Better to start blaming it on Zelensky now.

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14 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

From the very start of the war, I've been surprised at Europe's approach of waiting to see what the US does in providing weapons and authorizing long-range use, before slowly doing the same.

Russia's GDP ranked 11th in the world (who knows after the oil/gas embargo), just above SOUTH KOREA and below BRAZIL.  How is it Germany (3rd), UK (6th), France (7th) and Italy (8th) can't mount a defense against Russia on their own? Not to mention Spain, Poland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, etc. What is this lap-dog mentality among Europe? I get that none of them had spent nearly enough on defense, but collectively they could squash Russia like a bug.  Particularly now that Russia's army has been exposed, has nearly a million causalities and their economy is teetering on collapse.

You'd think Europe could easily take it upon themselves to help Ukraine kick Russian ass, with or without Trump.  No doubt it's nice to have the biggest military in the world backing ya up, but ... wouldn't think they really need the US at this point.

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1 hour ago, Gepetto said:

This is an 11 year war, not a 3 year war. And I'd argue it started more as a Civil War and resulted when the govt. was overthrown in early 2014 a direct result of the interference done by the United States.

 

Thank you. This is the exact reason why we are where we are today. If NATO wasn’t pushed Eastward like what was agreed to, NONE of this would have happened. 
 

This video is 4 minutes long. It summarizes everything along the timeline. 
https://x.com/pgenium/status/1895919199069081798?s=46

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1 minute ago, avoiding injuries said:

Thank you. This is the exact reason why we are where we are today. If NATO wasn’t pushed Eastward like what was agreed to, NONE of this would have happened. 
 

This video is 4 minutes long. It summarizes everything along the timeline. 
https://x.com/pgenium/status/1895919199069081798?s=46

Jeffrey Sachs lays it all out. Liberals can't admit when they are wrong, so his logic cannot reach their minds.

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4 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Jeffrey Sachs lays it all out. Liberals can't admit when they are wrong, so his logic cannot reach their minds.

Yeah, Jeffery Sachs, he’s a card carrying MAGA hat wearing Trump boy.  Don’t listen to him. Oh wait, he hates Trump. Now what do we label him as? Putin apologist?

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1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

Tell that to Bill Clinton. 

Clinton got impeached for lying? like to the press? to the people?

or was there maybe some place else he lied hmm

 

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6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Clinton got impeached for lying? like to the press? to the people?

or was there maybe some place else he lied hmm

 

Focking under oath. I don't think liberals take that seriously unless it's someone on the other side of their political agenda. 

And they call us fascists. 

 

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19 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Jeffrey Sachs lays it all out. Liberals can't admit when they are wrong, so his logic cannot reach their minds.

Jeffrey sachs is Kremlin operative.  You can't believe what he says.  Fact check it all.  Not hard to do.

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31 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Tucker Carlson explains it well

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1895883813223354871?s=19

One of the most striking things about yesterday’s Zelensky press conference was Lindsey Graham’s reaction to it. The two are old friends, but Graham disavowed him within the hour. This was more than just transactional disloyalty. It was scapegoating. Lindsey Graham knows what’s coming. Over the past three years, with the tacit support of its western patrons, the Ukrainian government has committed a remarkable number of serious crimes. The Ukrainians sold huge quantities of American weapons on the international black market at twenty cents on the dollar. These weapons are now in the hands of armed groups around the world, including Hamas, the Mexican drug cartels and the forces now controlling Syria. God knows what the Ukrainians have done with the pathogens in American biolabs in their country. Even US intel agencies aren’t sure. The Ukrainians have also murdered a number of people in various countries in political assassinations, and tried to murder others, including American journalists and a European head of state. This is all true, and it’s all going to come out at some point. Better to start blaming it on Zelensky now.

Tucker Carlson is the national version of @Horseman. Virtually 100% of what he says is the opposite of the truth. He’s a good weathervane for the mentally unbalanced. 

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5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Jeffrey sachs is Kremlin operative.  You can't believe what he says.  Fact check it all.  Not hard to do.

Oh look. Gutterboy is back.  Yay.  

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39 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Jeffrey Sachs lays it all out. Liberals can't admit when they are wrong, so his logic cannot reach their minds.

 

18 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Jeffrey sachs is Kremlin operative.  You can't believe what he says.  Fact check it all.  Not hard to do.

Yeah Beernuts!!! Take that!! You should be logging into CNN to get your "facts checked" darn you. Rachel Maddow will tell you what's up. 

How do you not know that CNN and msn knows everything and their "fact checks" are real?   :mad:

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22 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Jeffrey sachs is Kremlin operative.  You can't believe what he says.  Fact check it all.  Not hard to do.

⬆️ Never heard of Sachs. 

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24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh look. Gutterboy is back.  Yay.  

Hi!

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Treasury sec reveals Zelenskyy nixed Trump's mineral deal twice prior to Oval Office blowup
 

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent stated that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had already twice refused to sign a minerals deal with the United States.

"This has to be one of the greatest diplomatic mishaps of all time by President Zelenskyy," Bessent said in an interview Friday with Laura Ingraham, host of Fox News' "The Ingraham Angle." 

Bessent explained that Zelenskyy told him during a meeting in Kyiv that he would not sign a mineral deal, which would exchange billions of dollars in US aid funding for rare earths and other resources from Ukraine.  Zelenskyy also refused to close the deal with Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Bessent stated. 

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent revealed on Fox News that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had already twice refused to sign a minerals deal with the United States. (Fox News)

On Friday, Trump and Vance reprimanded Zelenskyy in full view of reporters, with cameras rolling. The tense exchange led to a canceled meeting between Zelenskyy and Trump.

"It was supposed to be a great day and this is one of the biggest own goals in diplomatic history," Bessent said, referencing a soccer term about scoring against your own team. 

"Today, I was shocked that he would behave like this on camera in front of the world," he added. 

On the social media  site X, Sen. Eric Schmitt, R-Mo. posted, "Zelenskyy could have signed the deal five days earlier but wanted to come to the White House. He’d been difficult for two weeks. Yet he wanted the White House meeting. Trump was upbeat about it even just the day before publicly and privately the day of. Although he could have reset the whole thing, Zelenskyy was antagonistic and over the top."

Trump posted to his Truth Social account shortly after the meeting that Zelenskyy was "not ready for Peace." (Photos supplied by Getty Images)

Schmitt concluded, "He had a one foot putt but was more interested in litigating issues that should be discussed behind closed doors (and have been) in public." 

Trump posted to his Truth Social account shortly after the meeting that Zelenskyy was "not ready for Peace."

"We had a very meaningful meeting in the White House today," Trump wrote. "Much was learned that could never be understood without conversation under such fire and pressure." 

"Thank you, America, thank you for your support, thank you for this visit," Zelenskyy posted to X on Friday afternoon. "Thank you @POTUS, Congress, and the American people. Ukraine needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that." 

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3 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Treasury sec reveals Zelenskyy nixed Trump's mineral deal twice prior to Oval Office blowup
 

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent stated that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had already twice refused to sign a minerals deal with the United States.

"This has to be one of the greatest diplomatic mishaps of all time by President Zelenskyy," Bessent said in an interview Friday with Laura Ingraham, host of Fox News' "The Ingraham Angle." 

Bessent explained that Zelenskyy told him during a meeting in Kyiv that he would not sign a mineral deal, which would exchange billions of dollars in US aid funding for rare earths and other resources from Ukraine.  Zelenskyy also refused to close the deal with Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Bessent stated. 

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent revealed on Fox News that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had already twice refused to sign a minerals deal with the United States. (Fox News)

On Friday, Trump and Vance reprimanded Zelenskyy in full view of reporters, with cameras rolling. The tense exchange led to a canceled meeting between Zelenskyy and Trump.

"It was supposed to be a great day and this is one of the biggest own goals in diplomatic history," Bessent said, referencing a soccer term about scoring against your own team. 

"Today, I was shocked that he would behave like this on camera in front of the world," he added. 

On the social media  site X, Sen. Eric Schmitt, R-Mo. posted, "Zelenskyy could have signed the deal five days earlier but wanted to come to the White House. He’d been difficult for two weeks. Yet he wanted the White House meeting. Trump was upbeat about it even just the day before publicly and privately the day of. Although he could have reset the whole thing, Zelenskyy was antagonistic and over the top."

Trump posted to his Truth Social account shortly after the meeting that Zelenskyy was "not ready for Peace." (Photos supplied by Getty Images)

Schmitt concluded, "He had a one foot putt but was more interested in litigating issues that should be discussed behind closed doors (and have been) in public." 

Trump posted to his Truth Social account shortly after the meeting that Zelenskyy was "not ready for Peace."

"We had a very meaningful meeting in the White House today," Trump wrote. "Much was learned that could never be understood without conversation under such fire and pressure." 

"Thank you, America, thank you for your support, thank you for this visit," Zelenskyy posted to X on Friday afternoon. "Thank you @POTUS, Congress, and the American people. Ukraine needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that." 

Zelensky working hard at his act to gain pity support from liberal European countries. 

He may get it, but they don't have anything else to offer. Oops! 😆

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13 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Zelensky working hard at his act to gain pity support from liberal European countries. 

Zelensky is demanding boots on the ground. He's NEVER going get them. 

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6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Zelensky is demanding boots on the ground. He's NEVER going get them. 

They will all stand up for him in the public eye. But behind closed doors, you know damn well they are all telling him to either step down or get his shlt together and crawl back to Trump. Which I bet he does. Well, he has already started to do that but it will cost him more. 

That level of utter reckless humiliation in the eye of his country....? If he's truly a man who cares about his country, he will cave to Trump and thank him the whole time.

If he's so humiliated he can't show his face again to his own people....he will resign and take his ill-gotten money and run and hide. 

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45 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Hi!

Ward or Sanders? Or someone else?

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20 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Zelensky is demanding boots on the ground. He's NEVER going get them. 

He's got a better chance of the media rumor from years ago of Putin having advanced cancer is true and it's somehow taking him a record breaking amount of time to succomb.

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12 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

They will all stand up for him in the public eye. But behind closed doors, you know damn well they are all telling him to either step down or get his shlt together and crawl back to Trump. Which I bet he does.

Head of the EU told Zelenskyy today that he needs to repair his fractured relationship with Trump.  Now.

The EU nations are all rallying together, with even Great Britain saying that they need to rely less on America.  Yeah, good luck with that.  Talk of increasing their NATO defense spending from 2% to 3.5% or even as high as 7%.

It’s like a college grad living at home with his parents, making $30k a year, getting in a fight and saying he’s moving out and will live on his own. 😆

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Link? 

He said it yesterday!! He said he wanted security forces to protect Ukraine. 

Do you not understand what he's asking for?? 

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1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Focking under oath. I don't think liberals take that seriously unless it's someone on the other side of their political agenda. 

And they call us fascists. 

 

I know that was the point I was making cause some retard said they should impeach Trump for lying. Then normally not total retard followed up with but Clinton. 

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2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Head of the EU told Zelenskyy today that he needs to repair his fractured relationship with Trump.  Now.

The EU nations are all rallying together, with even Great Britain saying that they need to rely less on America.  Yeah, good luck with that.  Talk of increasing their NATO defense spending from 2% to 3.5% or even as high as 7%.

It’s like a college grad living at home with his parents, making $30k a year, getting in a fight and saying he’s moving out and will live on his own. 😆

This might be good for Europe if they are serious, which I doubt.  They can’t pay for their own defense and pay for third world savages to sit around all day and rape their women and children.   Something has to give. 

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