squistion 1,944 Posted March 12 Lets start with his 2025 statements about Canada, fact checked by Daniel Dale of CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/politics/fact-check-trump-canada-claims/index.html Fact check: Nine Trump false claims about Canada WashingtonCNN — President Donald Trump keeps saying he wants Canada to become the 51st US state. To support his pitch, he keeps making false claims about Canada. In 2025 alone, Trump has: Falsely said the Canadian public likes the idea of becoming the 51st state, which the Canadian public overwhelmingly opposes Falsely said the US trade deficit with Canada is “$200 billion,” though it is nowhere close Falsely said Canada is one of the world’s highest-tariff countries, though it is actually low in global rankings Falsely said Canada hiked its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration, though they haven’t changed since Trump’s first presidency Falsely said Canada generally doesn’t “take” US agricultural exports, though Canada is the world’s second-biggest buyer of those exports Falsely said Canada prohibits US banks, though more than a dozen US banks are operating in Canada today Falsely said Canada is “constantly surrounded” by Chinese and Russian ships, though this is fiction Falsely said outgoing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was using the ongoing tariff battle to run again for prime minister, though Trudeau clearly wasn’t running Falsely said Canada spends less than 1% of gross domestic product on defense, though NATO figures showed it was an estimated 1.37% last year Here is a fact check of these false statements. Canadians’ views on becoming the 51st state: Trump falsely claimed to reporters in January that “the people of Canada like” his idea of Canada joining the US. In fact, poll after poll has shown the idea is massively unpopular with the people of Canada – one recent poll had 85% opposed, 9% in favor – and it has been vehemently rejected by Canadian political leaders from left to right. The US trade deficit with Canada: Trump has repeatedly said the US has a “$200 billion” trade deficit with Canada. That’s not even close to true. Official US statistics show the 2024 deficit with Canada in goods and services trade was $35.7 billion. Even if you only count trade in goods and ignore the services trade at which the US excels, the deficit was $70.6 billion. Canada’s tariffs: Trump falsely claimed in a social media post Tuesday that Canada is “ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.” In fact, Canada has long had relatively low tariffs, though it has this month announced a series of new retaliatory tariffs on the US in direct response to Trump’s own new tariffs on Canada. Canada was just 102nd-highest on a World Bank list of 137 countries’ trade-weighted average tariff rates in 2022 – and had a lower average (1.37%) than the United States (1.49%) that year, the most recent for which the data is available. Canada’s dairy tariffs: Trump falsely claimed to reporters Friday that he had Canada’s dairy-tariff situation “well taken care of” at the time he left office the first time, “but under Biden, they just kept raising it.” In fact, Canada did not raise its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration. The tariffs Trump is denouncing were left in place by the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement he signed in 2018, though that agreement did secure greater US access to the Canadian dairy market. Trump has also persistently failed to mention that Canada’s high dairy tariffs only kick in after the US has hit a certain Trump-negotiated quantity of tariff-free dairy sales to Canada each year – and as the US dairy industry acknowledges, the US is not hitting its zero-tariff maximum in any category of dairy product, so the tariffs aren’t being applied. Canada’s imports of US agricultural products: Trump, speaking of Canada, claimed to reporters in February that “they don’t take our agricultural product for the most part”; he mentioned dairy, then said, “A little bit they do, but not much.” This is false even with Trump’s qualifiers. Canada was the world’s second-largest buyer of US agricultural exports in 2024, according to the US Department of Agriculture, purchasing about $28.4 billion worth. While Canada does limit foreign access to its dairy, egg and poultry markets in particular, these are exceptions rather than the rule. The US Department of Agriculture notes on its website that “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada face zero tariffs or quotas, and that “Canada consistently ranks among our top markets for agricultural product exports, representing one of our most significant and reliable trading partners.” Canada and US banks: Trump falsely claimed in both February and March that Canada prohibits US banks. While Canada’s tight regulations have discouraged many foreign banks from opening retail branches there, Canada does not forbid these banks; in fact, US banks have been operating in Canada for well over a century. The Canadian Bankers Association industry group said in a February statement that “there are 16 U.S.-based bank subsidiaries and branches with around C$113 billion in assets currently operating in Canada” and that “U.S. banks now make up approximately half of all foreign bank assets in Canada.” Canada, Russia and China: Trump falsely claimed in a January social media post that Canada joining the US would secure Canada “from the threat of the Russian and Chinese Ships that are constantly surrounding them.” Canada has never been surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships, let alone been “constantly” surrounded. In fact, a smattering of Russian and Chinese military ships and jets, as well as Chinese research vessels viewed with suspicion by Canada and the US, have been occasionally spotted in recent years in the vicinity of the US state of Alaska – and have been monitored or intercepted by the Canadian and US militaries. The Canadian government did warn in December that among the “potential threats” in its Arctic region were “increased Russian activity in Canadian air approaches” and “China’s regular deployment of dual-use – having both research and military application – research vessels and surveillance platforms to collect data.” But that’s not the same as being “surrounded.” Trudeau and the trade war: Trump said in a social media post Thursday: “I think that Justin Trudeau is using the Tariff problem, which he has largely caused, in order to run again for Prime Minister.” Trump framed this as his own thought, but it was clearly false nonetheless. Trudeau’s successor as Liberal Party leader and prime minister was set to be chosen in a party vote three days following this Trump post; Trudeau did not compete in the leadership race after announcing in January that he would step down after the new leader was chosen. Canada’s defense spending: Trump falsely claimed in January that Canada spends “less than 1%” of GDP on defense. Official NATO figures show Canada spent an estimated 1.37% of GDP on defense in 2024, up from an estimated 1.31% in 2023 and from 1.2% in 2022. That’s all short of NATO’s 2% target, which incoming prime minister Mark Carney has vowed to meet by 2030, but not as low as Trump claimed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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supermike80 1,799 Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, squistion said: Lets start with his 2025 statements about Canada, fact checked by Daniel Dale of CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/politics/fact-check-trump-canada-claims/index.html Fact check: Nine Trump false claims about Canada WashingtonCNN — President Donald Trump keeps saying he wants Canada to become the 51st US state. To support his pitch, he keeps making false claims about Canada. In 2025 alone, Trump has: Falsely said the Canadian public likes the idea of becoming the 51st state, which the Canadian public overwhelmingly opposes Falsely said the US trade deficit with Canada is “$200 billion,” though it is nowhere close Falsely said Canada is one of the world’s highest-tariff countries, though it is actually low in global rankings Falsely said Canada hiked its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration, though they haven’t changed since Trump’s first presidency Falsely said Canada generally doesn’t “take” US agricultural exports, though Canada is the world’s second-biggest buyer of those exports Falsely said Canada prohibits US banks, though more than a dozen US banks are operating in Canada today Falsely said Canada is “constantly surrounded” by Chinese and Russian ships, though this is fiction Falsely said outgoing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was using the ongoing tariff battle to run again for prime minister, though Trudeau clearly wasn’t running Falsely said Canada spends less than 1% of gross domestic product on defense, though NATO figures showed it was an estimated 1.37% last year Here is a fact check of these false statements. Canadians’ views on becoming the 51st state: Trump falsely claimed to reporters in January that “the people of Canada like” his idea of Canada joining the US. In fact, poll after poll has shown the idea is massively unpopular with the people of Canada – one recent poll had 85% opposed, 9% in favor – and it has been vehemently rejected by Canadian political leaders from left to right. The US trade deficit with Canada: Trump has repeatedly said the US has a “$200 billion” trade deficit with Canada. That’s not even close to true. Official US statistics show the 2024 deficit with Canada in goods and services trade was $35.7 billion. Even if you only count trade in goods and ignore the services trade at which the US excels, the deficit was $70.6 billion. Canada’s tariffs: Trump falsely claimed in a social media post Tuesday that Canada is “ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.” In fact, Canada has long had relatively low tariffs, though it has this month announced a series of new retaliatory tariffs on the US in direct response to Trump’s own new tariffs on Canada. Canada was just 102nd-highest on a World Bank list of 137 countries’ trade-weighted average tariff rates in 2022 – and had a lower average (1.37%) than the United States (1.49%) that year, the most recent for which the data is available. Canada’s dairy tariffs: Trump falsely claimed to reporters Friday that he had Canada’s dairy-tariff situation “well taken care of” at the time he left office the first time, “but under Biden, they just kept raising it.” In fact, Canada did not raise its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration. The tariffs Trump is denouncing were left in place by the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement he signed in 2018, though that agreement did secure greater US access to the Canadian dairy market. Trump has also persistently failed to mention that Canada’s high dairy tariffs only kick in after the US has hit a certain Trump-negotiated quantity of tariff-free dairy sales to Canada each year – and as the US dairy industry acknowledges, the US is not hitting its zero-tariff maximum in any category of dairy product, so the tariffs aren’t being applied. Canada’s imports of US agricultural products: Trump, speaking of Canada, claimed to reporters in February that “they don’t take our agricultural product for the most part”; he mentioned dairy, then said, “A little bit they do, but not much.” This is false even with Trump’s qualifiers. Canada was the world’s second-largest buyer of US agricultural exports in 2024, according to the US Department of Agriculture, purchasing about $28.4 billion worth. While Canada does limit foreign access to its dairy, egg and poultry markets in particular, these are exceptions rather than the rule. The US Department of Agriculture notes on its website that “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada face zero tariffs or quotas, and that “Canada consistently ranks among our top markets for agricultural product exports, representing one of our most significant and reliable trading partners.” Canada and US banks: Trump falsely claimed in both February and March that Canada prohibits US banks. While Canada’s tight regulations have discouraged many foreign banks from opening retail branches there, Canada does not forbid these banks; in fact, US banks have been operating in Canada for well over a century. The Canadian Bankers Association industry group said in a February statement that “there are 16 U.S.-based bank subsidiaries and branches with around C$113 billion in assets currently operating in Canada” and that “U.S. banks now make up approximately half of all foreign bank assets in Canada.” Canada, Russia and China: Trump falsely claimed in a January social media post that Canada joining the US would secure Canada “from the threat of the Russian and Chinese Ships that are constantly surrounding them.” Canada has never been surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships, let alone been “constantly” surrounded. In fact, a smattering of Russian and Chinese military ships and jets, as well as Chinese research vessels viewed with suspicion by Canada and the US, have been occasionally spotted in recent years in the vicinity of the US state of Alaska – and have been monitored or intercepted by the Canadian and US militaries. The Canadian government did warn in December that among the “potential threats” in its Arctic region were “increased Russian activity in Canadian air approaches” and “China’s regular deployment of dual-use – having both research and military application – research vessels and surveillance platforms to collect data.” But that’s not the same as being “surrounded.” Trudeau and the trade war: Trump said in a social media post Thursday: “I think that Justin Trudeau is using the Tariff problem, which he has largely caused, in order to run again for Prime Minister.” Trump framed this as his own thought, but it was clearly false nonetheless. Trudeau’s successor as Liberal Party leader and prime minister was set to be chosen in a party vote three days following this Trump post; Trudeau did not compete in the leadership race after announcing in January that he would step down after the new leader was chosen. Canada’s defense spending: Trump falsely claimed in January that Canada spends “less than 1%” of GDP on defense. Official NATO figures show Canada spent an estimated 1.37% of GDP on defense in 2024, up from an estimated 1.31% in 2023 and from 1.2% in 2022. That’s all short of NATO’s 2% target, which incoming prime minister Mark Carney has vowed to meet by 2030, but not as low as Trump claimed. You DEFINITELY shouldn't vote for him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,922 Posted March 12 38 minutes ago, squistion said: Lets start with his 2025 statements about Canada, fact checked by Daniel Dale of CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/politics/fact-check-trump-canada-claims/index.html Fact check: Nine Trump false claims about Canada WashingtonCNN — President Donald Trump keeps saying he wants Canada to become the 51st US state. To support his pitch, he keeps making false claims about Canada. In 2025 alone, Trump has: Falsely said the Canadian public likes the idea of becoming the 51st state, which the Canadian public overwhelmingly opposes Falsely said the US trade deficit with Canada is “$200 billion,” though it is nowhere close Falsely said Canada is one of the world’s highest-tariff countries, though it is actually low in global rankings Falsely said Canada hiked its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration, though they haven’t changed since Trump’s first presidency Falsely said Canada generally doesn’t “take” US agricultural exports, though Canada is the world’s second-biggest buyer of those exports Falsely said Canada prohibits US banks, though more than a dozen US banks are operating in Canada today Falsely said Canada is “constantly surrounded” by Chinese and Russian ships, though this is fiction Falsely said outgoing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was using the ongoing tariff battle to run again for prime minister, though Trudeau clearly wasn’t running Falsely said Canada spends less than 1% of gross domestic product on defense, though NATO figures showed it was an estimated 1.37% last year Here is a fact check of these false statements. Canadians’ views on becoming the 51st state: Trump falsely claimed to reporters in January that “the people of Canada like” his idea of Canada joining the US. In fact, poll after poll has shown the idea is massively unpopular with the people of Canada – one recent poll had 85% opposed, 9% in favor – and it has been vehemently rejected by Canadian political leaders from left to right. The US trade deficit with Canada: Trump has repeatedly said the US has a “$200 billion” trade deficit with Canada. That’s not even close to true. Official US statistics show the 2024 deficit with Canada in goods and services trade was $35.7 billion. Even if you only count trade in goods and ignore the services trade at which the US excels, the deficit was $70.6 billion. Canada’s tariffs: Trump falsely claimed in a social media post Tuesday that Canada is “ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.” In fact, Canada has long had relatively low tariffs, though it has this month announced a series of new retaliatory tariffs on the US in direct response to Trump’s own new tariffs on Canada. Canada was just 102nd-highest on a World Bank list of 137 countries’ trade-weighted average tariff rates in 2022 – and had a lower average (1.37%) than the United States (1.49%) that year, the most recent for which the data is available. Canada’s dairy tariffs: Trump falsely claimed to reporters Friday that he had Canada’s dairy-tariff situation “well taken care of” at the time he left office the first time, “but under Biden, they just kept raising it.” In fact, Canada did not raise its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration. The tariffs Trump is denouncing were left in place by the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement he signed in 2018, though that agreement did secure greater US access to the Canadian dairy market. Trump has also persistently failed to mention that Canada’s high dairy tariffs only kick in after the US has hit a certain Trump-negotiated quantity of tariff-free dairy sales to Canada each year – and as the US dairy industry acknowledges, the US is not hitting its zero-tariff maximum in any category of dairy product, so the tariffs aren’t being applied. Canada’s imports of US agricultural products: Trump, speaking of Canada, claimed to reporters in February that “they don’t take our agricultural product for the most part”; he mentioned dairy, then said, “A little bit they do, but not much.” This is false even with Trump’s qualifiers. Canada was the world’s second-largest buyer of US agricultural exports in 2024, according to the US Department of Agriculture, purchasing about $28.4 billion worth. While Canada does limit foreign access to its dairy, egg and poultry markets in particular, these are exceptions rather than the rule. The US Department of Agriculture notes on its website that “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada face zero tariffs or quotas, and that “Canada consistently ranks among our top markets for agricultural product exports, representing one of our most significant and reliable trading partners.” Canada and US banks: Trump falsely claimed in both February and March that Canada prohibits US banks. While Canada’s tight regulations have discouraged many foreign banks from opening retail branches there, Canada does not forbid these banks; in fact, US banks have been operating in Canada for well over a century. The Canadian Bankers Association industry group said in a February statement that “there are 16 U.S.-based bank subsidiaries and branches with around C$113 billion in assets currently operating in Canada” and that “U.S. banks now make up approximately half of all foreign bank assets in Canada.” Canada, Russia and China: Trump falsely claimed in a January social media post that Canada joining the US would secure Canada “from the threat of the Russian and Chinese Ships that are constantly surrounding them.” Canada has never been surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships, let alone been “constantly” surrounded. In fact, a smattering of Russian and Chinese military ships and jets, as well as Chinese research vessels viewed with suspicion by Canada and the US, have been occasionally spotted in recent years in the vicinity of the US state of Alaska – and have been monitored or intercepted by the Canadian and US militaries. The Canadian government did warn in December that among the “potential threats” in its Arctic region were “increased Russian activity in Canadian air approaches” and “China’s regular deployment of dual-use – having both research and military application – research vessels and surveillance platforms to collect data.” But that’s not the same as being “surrounded.” Trudeau and the trade war: Trump said in a social media post Thursday: “I think that Justin Trudeau is using the Tariff problem, which he has largely caused, in order to run again for Prime Minister.” Trump framed this as his own thought, but it was clearly false nonetheless. Trudeau’s successor as Liberal Party leader and prime minister was set to be chosen in a party vote three days following this Trump post; Trudeau did not compete in the leadership race after announcing in January that he would step down after the new leader was chosen. Canada’s defense spending: Trump falsely claimed in January that Canada spends “less than 1%” of GDP on defense. Official NATO figures show Canada spent an estimated 1.37% of GDP on defense in 2024, up from an estimated 1.31% in 2023 and from 1.2% in 2022. That’s all short of NATO’s 2% target, which incoming prime minister Mark Carney has vowed to meet by 2030, but not as low as Trump claimed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,122 Posted March 12 There is no point in fact checking him. His supporters either know he lies like a rug and don’t care, or they assume any facts that contradict him are fake news. The man is Teflon. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HB Localboy 121 Posted March 12 Libtards aren't smart enough to "fact check". Might as well ask the kid with Downsy to fact check. Libtard fact checker ----> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Nomad99 699 Posted March 12 25 minutes ago, MDC said: There is no point in fact checking him. His supporters either know he lies like a rug and don’t care, or they assume any facts that contradict him are fake news. The man is Teflon. Why are you here....it's not a tranny thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,152 Posted March 12 52 minutes ago, MDC said: There is no point in fact checking him. His supporters either know he lies like a rug and don’t care, or they assume any facts that contradict him are fake news. The man is Teflon. Liberals didn’t care, they knew from pictures that biden is a pedero, but they kept on supporting him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted March 12 Big Tax Cuts Result: TBD Really the only one that matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,922 Posted March 12 2 hours ago, squistion said: Lets start with his 2025 statements about Canada, fact checked by Daniel Dale of CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/politics/fact-check-trump-canada-claims/index.html Fact check: Nine Trump false claims about Canada WashingtonCNN — President Donald Trump keeps saying he wants Canada to become the 51st US state. To support his pitch, he keeps making false claims about Canada. In 2025 alone, Trump has: Falsely said the Canadian public likes the idea of becoming the 51st state, which the Canadian public overwhelmingly opposes Falsely said the US trade deficit with Canada is “$200 billion,” though it is nowhere close Falsely said Canada is one of the world’s highest-tariff countries, though it is actually low in global rankings Falsely said Canada hiked its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration, though they haven’t changed since Trump’s first presidency Falsely said Canada generally doesn’t “take” US agricultural exports, though Canada is the world’s second-biggest buyer of those exports Falsely said Canada prohibits US banks, though more than a dozen US banks are operating in Canada today Falsely said Canada is “constantly surrounded” by Chinese and Russian ships, though this is fiction Falsely said outgoing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was using the ongoing tariff battle to run again for prime minister, though Trudeau clearly wasn’t running Falsely said Canada spends less than 1% of gross domestic product on defense, though NATO figures showed it was an estimated 1.37% last year Here is a fact check of these false statements. Canadians’ views on becoming the 51st state: Trump falsely claimed to reporters in January that “the people of Canada like” his idea of Canada joining the US. In fact, poll after poll has shown the idea is massively unpopular with the people of Canada – one recent poll had 85% opposed, 9% in favor – and it has been vehemently rejected by Canadian political leaders from left to right. The US trade deficit with Canada: Trump has repeatedly said the US has a “$200 billion” trade deficit with Canada. That’s not even close to true. Official US statistics show the 2024 deficit with Canada in goods and services trade was $35.7 billion. Even if you only count trade in goods and ignore the services trade at which the US excels, the deficit was $70.6 billion. Canada’s tariffs: Trump falsely claimed in a social media post Tuesday that Canada is “ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.” In fact, Canada has long had relatively low tariffs, though it has this month announced a series of new retaliatory tariffs on the US in direct response to Trump’s own new tariffs on Canada. Canada was just 102nd-highest on a World Bank list of 137 countries’ trade-weighted average tariff rates in 2022 – and had a lower average (1.37%) than the United States (1.49%) that year, the most recent for which the data is available. Canada’s dairy tariffs: Trump falsely claimed to reporters Friday that he had Canada’s dairy-tariff situation “well taken care of” at the time he left office the first time, “but under Biden, they just kept raising it.” In fact, Canada did not raise its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration. The tariffs Trump is denouncing were left in place by the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement he signed in 2018, though that agreement did secure greater US access to the Canadian dairy market. Trump has also persistently failed to mention that Canada’s high dairy tariffs only kick in after the US has hit a certain Trump-negotiated quantity of tariff-free dairy sales to Canada each year – and as the US dairy industry acknowledges, the US is not hitting its zero-tariff maximum in any category of dairy product, so the tariffs aren’t being applied. Canada’s imports of US agricultural products: Trump, speaking of Canada, claimed to reporters in February that “they don’t take our agricultural product for the most part”; he mentioned dairy, then said, “A little bit they do, but not much.” This is false even with Trump’s qualifiers. Canada was the world’s second-largest buyer of US agricultural exports in 2024, according to the US Department of Agriculture, purchasing about $28.4 billion worth. While Canada does limit foreign access to its dairy, egg and poultry markets in particular, these are exceptions rather than the rule. The US Department of Agriculture notes on its website that “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada face zero tariffs or quotas, and that “Canada consistently ranks among our top markets for agricultural product exports, representing one of our most significant and reliable trading partners.” Canada and US banks: Trump falsely claimed in both February and March that Canada prohibits US banks. While Canada’s tight regulations have discouraged many foreign banks from opening retail branches there, Canada does not forbid these banks; in fact, US banks have been operating in Canada for well over a century. The Canadian Bankers Association industry group said in a February statement that “there are 16 U.S.-based bank subsidiaries and branches with around C$113 billion in assets currently operating in Canada” and that “U.S. banks now make up approximately half of all foreign bank assets in Canada.” Canada, Russia and China: Trump falsely claimed in a January social media post that Canada joining the US would secure Canada “from the threat of the Russian and Chinese Ships that are constantly surrounding them.” Canada has never been surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships, let alone been “constantly” surrounded. In fact, a smattering of Russian and Chinese military ships and jets, as well as Chinese research vessels viewed with suspicion by Canada and the US, have been occasionally spotted in recent years in the vicinity of the US state of Alaska – and have been monitored or intercepted by the Canadian and US militaries. The Canadian government did warn in December that among the “potential threats” in its Arctic region were “increased Russian activity in Canadian air approaches” and “China’s regular deployment of dual-use – having both research and military application – research vessels and surveillance platforms to collect data.” But that’s not the same as being “surrounded.” Trudeau and the trade war: Trump said in a social media post Thursday: “I think that Justin Trudeau is using the Tariff problem, which he has largely caused, in order to run again for Prime Minister.” Trump framed this as his own thought, but it was clearly false nonetheless. Trudeau’s successor as Liberal Party leader and prime minister was set to be chosen in a party vote three days following this Trump post; Trudeau did not compete in the leadership race after announcing in January that he would step down after the new leader was chosen. Canada’s defense spending: Trump falsely claimed in January that Canada spends “less than 1%” of GDP on defense. Official NATO figures show Canada spent an estimated 1.37% of GDP on defense in 2024, up from an estimated 1.31% in 2023 and from 1.2% in 2022. That’s all short of NATO’s 2% target, which incoming prime minister Mark Carney has vowed to meet by 2030, but not as low as Trump claimed. Thinks someone read that. He didn’t even read that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,122 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Nomad99 said: Why are you here....it's not a tranny thread Now that you’re here it is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, MDC said: There is no point in fact checking him. His supporters either know he lies like a rug and don’t care, or they assume any facts that contradict him are fake news. The man is Teflon. It is not for his supporters who don't accept fact checking at all, obviously because there is only one set of facts and if Trump gets it wrong, they can't come up with an alternate set of facts to dispute it...but I digress. This thread will be just be here to set the record straight for those who are interested in the accuracy (or lack thereof) of Trump's statements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,922 Posted March 12 2 hours ago, squistion said: Lets start with his 2025 statements about Canada, fact checked by Daniel Dale of CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/politics/fact-check-trump-canada-claims/index.html Fact check: Nine Trump false claims about Canada WashingtonCNN — President Donald Trump keeps saying he wants Canada to become the 51st US state. To support his pitch, he keeps making false claims about Canada. In 2025 alone, Trump has: Falsely said the Canadian public likes the idea of becoming the 51st state, which the Canadian public overwhelmingly opposes Falsely said the US trade deficit with Canada is “$200 billion,” though it is nowhere close Falsely said Canada is one of the world’s highest-tariff countries, though it is actually low in global rankings Falsely said Canada hiked its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration, though they haven’t changed since Trump’s first presidency Falsely said Canada generally doesn’t “take” US agricultural exports, though Canada is the world’s second-biggest buyer of those exports Falsely said Canada prohibits US banks, though more than a dozen US banks are operating in Canada today Falsely said Canada is “constantly surrounded” by Chinese and Russian ships, though this is fiction Falsely said outgoing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was using the ongoing tariff battle to run again for prime minister, though Trudeau clearly wasn’t running Falsely said Canada spends less than 1% of gross domestic product on defense, though NATO figures showed it was an estimated 1.37% last year Here is a fact check of these false statements. Canadians’ views on becoming the 51st state: Trump falsely claimed to reporters in January that “the people of Canada like” his idea of Canada joining the US. In fact, poll after poll has shown the idea is massively unpopular with the people of Canada – one recent poll had 85% opposed, 9% in favor – and it has been vehemently rejected by Canadian political leaders from left to right. The US trade deficit with Canada: Trump has repeatedly said the US has a “$200 billion” trade deficit with Canada. That’s not even close to true. Official US statistics show the 2024 deficit with Canada in goods and services trade was $35.7 billion. Even if you only count trade in goods and ignore the services trade at which the US excels, the deficit was $70.6 billion. Canada’s tariffs: Trump falsely claimed in a social media post Tuesday that Canada is “ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.” In fact, Canada has long had relatively low tariffs, though it has this month announced a series of new retaliatory tariffs on the US in direct response to Trump’s own new tariffs on Canada. Canada was just 102nd-highest on a World Bank list of 137 countries’ trade-weighted average tariff rates in 2022 – and had a lower average (1.37%) than the United States (1.49%) that year, the most recent for which the data is available. Canada’s dairy tariffs: Trump falsely claimed to reporters Friday that he had Canada’s dairy-tariff situation “well taken care of” at the time he left office the first time, “but under Biden, they just kept raising it.” In fact, Canada did not raise its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration. The tariffs Trump is denouncing were left in place by the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement he signed in 2018, though that agreement did secure greater US access to the Canadian dairy market. Trump has also persistently failed to mention that Canada’s high dairy tariffs only kick in after the US has hit a certain Trump-negotiated quantity of tariff-free dairy sales to Canada each year – and as the US dairy industry acknowledges, the US is not hitting its zero-tariff maximum in any category of dairy product, so the tariffs aren’t being applied. Canada’s imports of US agricultural products: Trump, speaking of Canada, claimed to reporters in February that “they don’t take our agricultural product for the most part”; he mentioned dairy, then said, “A little bit they do, but not much.” This is false even with Trump’s qualifiers. Canada was the world’s second-largest buyer of US agricultural exports in 2024, according to the US Department of Agriculture, purchasing about $28.4 billion worth. While Canada does limit foreign access to its dairy, egg and poultry markets in particular, these are exceptions rather than the rule. The US Department of Agriculture notes on its website that “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada face zero tariffs or quotas, and that “Canada consistently ranks among our top markets for agricultural product exports, representing one of our most significant and reliable trading partners.” Canada and US banks: Trump falsely claimed in both February and March that Canada prohibits US banks. While Canada’s tight regulations have discouraged many foreign banks from opening retail branches there, Canada does not forbid these banks; in fact, US banks have been operating in Canada for well over a century. The Canadian Bankers Association industry group said in a February statement that “there are 16 U.S.-based bank subsidiaries and branches with around C$113 billion in assets currently operating in Canada” and that “U.S. banks now make up approximately half of all foreign bank assets in Canada.” Canada, Russia and China: Trump falsely claimed in a January social media post that Canada joining the US would secure Canada “from the threat of the Russian and Chinese Ships that are constantly surrounding them.” Canada has never been surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships, let alone been “constantly” surrounded. In fact, a smattering of Russian and Chinese military ships and jets, as well as Chinese research vessels viewed with suspicion by Canada and the US, have been occasionally spotted in recent years in the vicinity of the US state of Alaska – and have been monitored or intercepted by the Canadian and US militaries. The Canadian government did warn in December that among the “potential threats” in its Arctic region were “increased Russian activity in Canadian air approaches” and “China’s regular deployment of dual-use – having both research and military application – research vessels and surveillance platforms to collect data.” But that’s not the same as being “surrounded.” Trudeau and the trade war: Trump said in a social media post Thursday: “I think that Justin Trudeau is using the Tariff problem, which he has largely caused, in order to run again for Prime Minister.” Trump framed this as his own thought, but it was clearly false nonetheless. Trudeau’s successor as Liberal Party leader and prime minister was set to be chosen in a party vote three days following this Trump post; Trudeau did not compete in the leadership race after announcing in January that he would step down after the new leader was chosen. Canada’s defense spending: Trump falsely claimed in January that Canada spends “less than 1%” of GDP on defense. Official NATO figures show Canada spent an estimated 1.37% of GDP on defense in 2024, up from an estimated 1.31% in 2023 and from 1.2% in 2022. That’s all short of NATO’s 2% target, which incoming prime minister Mark Carney has vowed to meet by 2030, but not as low as Trump claimed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted March 13 https://x.com/BlueATLGeorgia/status/1899251201222299885 (video clip at link) Brutal montage from Anderson Cooper of Trump claiming the economy would crash if Kamala Harris got elected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,922 Posted March 13 18 hours ago, squistion said: Lets start with his 2025 statements about Canada, fact checked by Daniel Dale of CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/politics/fact-check-trump-canada-claims/index.html Fact check: Nine Trump false claims about Canada WashingtonCNN — President Donald Trump keeps saying he wants Canada to become the 51st US state. To support his pitch, he keeps making false claims about Canada. In 2025 alone, Trump has: Falsely said the Canadian public likes the idea of becoming the 51st state, which the Canadian public overwhelmingly opposes Falsely said the US trade deficit with Canada is “$200 billion,” though it is nowhere close Falsely said Canada is one of the world’s highest-tariff countries, though it is actually low in global rankings Falsely said Canada hiked its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration, though they haven’t changed since Trump’s first presidency Falsely said Canada generally doesn’t “take” US agricultural exports, though Canada is the world’s second-biggest buyer of those exports Falsely said Canada prohibits US banks, though more than a dozen US banks are operating in Canada today Falsely said Canada is “constantly surrounded” by Chinese and Russian ships, though this is fiction Falsely said outgoing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was using the ongoing tariff battle to run again for prime minister, though Trudeau clearly wasn’t running Falsely said Canada spends less than 1% of gross domestic product on defense, though NATO figures showed it was an estimated 1.37% last year Here is a fact check of these false statements. Canadians’ views on becoming the 51st state: Trump falsely claimed to reporters in January that “the people of Canada like” his idea of Canada joining the US. In fact, poll after poll has shown the idea is massively unpopular with the people of Canada – one recent poll had 85% opposed, 9% in favor – and it has been vehemently rejected by Canadian political leaders from left to right. The US trade deficit with Canada: Trump has repeatedly said the US has a “$200 billion” trade deficit with Canada. That’s not even close to true. Official US statistics show the 2024 deficit with Canada in goods and services trade was $35.7 billion. Even if you only count trade in goods and ignore the services trade at which the US excels, the deficit was $70.6 billion. Canada’s tariffs: Trump falsely claimed in a social media post Tuesday that Canada is “ONE OF THE HIGHEST TARIFFING NATIONS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.” In fact, Canada has long had relatively low tariffs, though it has this month announced a series of new retaliatory tariffs on the US in direct response to Trump’s own new tariffs on Canada. Canada was just 102nd-highest on a World Bank list of 137 countries’ trade-weighted average tariff rates in 2022 – and had a lower average (1.37%) than the United States (1.49%) that year, the most recent for which the data is available. Canada’s dairy tariffs: Trump falsely claimed to reporters Friday that he had Canada’s dairy-tariff situation “well taken care of” at the time he left office the first time, “but under Biden, they just kept raising it.” In fact, Canada did not raise its dairy tariffs during the Biden administration. The tariffs Trump is denouncing were left in place by the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement he signed in 2018, though that agreement did secure greater US access to the Canadian dairy market. Trump has also persistently failed to mention that Canada’s high dairy tariffs only kick in after the US has hit a certain Trump-negotiated quantity of tariff-free dairy sales to Canada each year – and as the US dairy industry acknowledges, the US is not hitting its zero-tariff maximum in any category of dairy product, so the tariffs aren’t being applied. Canada’s imports of US agricultural products: Trump, speaking of Canada, claimed to reporters in February that “they don’t take our agricultural product for the most part”; he mentioned dairy, then said, “A little bit they do, but not much.” This is false even with Trump’s qualifiers. Canada was the world’s second-largest buyer of US agricultural exports in 2024, according to the US Department of Agriculture, purchasing about $28.4 billion worth. While Canada does limit foreign access to its dairy, egg and poultry markets in particular, these are exceptions rather than the rule. The US Department of Agriculture notes on its website that “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada face zero tariffs or quotas, and that “Canada consistently ranks among our top markets for agricultural product exports, representing one of our most significant and reliable trading partners.” Canada and US banks: Trump falsely claimed in both February and March that Canada prohibits US banks. While Canada’s tight regulations have discouraged many foreign banks from opening retail branches there, Canada does not forbid these banks; in fact, US banks have been operating in Canada for well over a century. The Canadian Bankers Association industry group said in a February statement that “there are 16 U.S.-based bank subsidiaries and branches with around C$113 billion in assets currently operating in Canada” and that “U.S. banks now make up approximately half of all foreign bank assets in Canada.” Canada, Russia and China: Trump falsely claimed in a January social media post that Canada joining the US would secure Canada “from the threat of the Russian and Chinese Ships that are constantly surrounding them.” Canada has never been surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships, let alone been “constantly” surrounded. In fact, a smattering of Russian and Chinese military ships and jets, as well as Chinese research vessels viewed with suspicion by Canada and the US, have been occasionally spotted in recent years in the vicinity of the US state of Alaska – and have been monitored or intercepted by the Canadian and US militaries. The Canadian government did warn in December that among the “potential threats” in its Arctic region were “increased Russian activity in Canadian air approaches” and “China’s regular deployment of dual-use – having both research and military application – research vessels and surveillance platforms to collect data.” But that’s not the same as being “surrounded.” Trudeau and the trade war: Trump said in a social media post Thursday: “I think that Justin Trudeau is using the Tariff problem, which he has largely caused, in order to run again for Prime Minister.” Trump framed this as his own thought, but it was clearly false nonetheless. Trudeau’s successor as Liberal Party leader and prime minister was set to be chosen in a party vote three days following this Trump post; Trudeau did not compete in the leadership race after announcing in January that he would step down after the new leader was chosen. Canada’s defense spending: Trump falsely claimed in January that Canada spends “less than 1%” of GDP on defense. Official NATO figures show Canada spent an estimated 1.37% of GDP on defense in 2024, up from an estimated 1.31% in 2023 and from 1.2% in 2022. That’s all short of NATO’s 2% target, which incoming prime minister Mark Carney has vowed to meet by 2030, but not as low as Trump claimed. So many lies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,095 Posted March 13 Fact - even though Elon gave DT $270M to become President, DT can't be bothered to learn the name of the company Elon runs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted March 15 https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/14/politics/fact-check-trump-immigration-biden-ukraine-doj Fact check: Trump’s false claims on immigration, Biden, Ukraine in DOJ remarks WashingtonCNN — President Donald Trump made multiple false claims in a Friday speech at the Department of Justice in which he discussed the legal system and crime but also a wide range of other topics, including immigration, the war in Ukraine and former President Joe Biden. Trump also made numerous allegations for which he provided no evidence, alleging unspecified “egregious crimes” in the government during the Biden administration, corruption among unspecified judges, illegality by media outlets that he claimed cover him too negatively and “crooked” behavior by law firms connected to cases involving Trump. Here is a fact check of some of his assertions. Trump’s prosecutions and Biden: Trump repeated his regular unsubstantiated claim that former President Joe Biden used his office to wield the legal system against Trump. “Etched onto the walls of this building are the words English philosopher John Locke said: ‘Where law ends, tyranny begins.’ And I see that, and I saw it over the last four years when somebody was allowed to attack, viciously, with this department and the FBI, his political opponent. How did that work out? It didn’t work out too well, but it wasn’t pleasant. I was attacked by a political opponent,” Trump said. There has never been any evidence that Biden personally used the Department of Justice or FBI to attack Trump. Trump’s two federal prosecutions, one over Trump’s efforts to overturn his 2020 election defeat and one over his retention of classified documents after his first presidency, were brought by a special counsel, Jack Smith. Smith was appointed in November 2022 by then-Attorney General Merrick Garland, a Biden appointee, but that is not proof that Biden was involved in the prosecution effort, much less that Biden personally attacked Trump using the department; Garland said in 2023 that he would resign if Biden ever asked him to act against Trump, and added that he was sure that would never happen. Biden documents investigation: Trump falsely claimed in his remarks that former President Joe Biden was “essentially found guilty, but they said he was incompetent and therefore let’s not find him guilty, I guess.” He added, “Nobody knows what the ruling was.” He continued, “I think I would have rather been found guilty than what they found with him. They said he didn’t know what the hell he was doing and therefore … let him go.” Biden was not found guilty, “essentially” or not, and there was no judicial “ruling” at all; Biden was not even charged with a crime. The special counsel who was appointed to look into Biden’s handling of classified documents, Robert Hur, wrote in his public report that “the evidence does not establish Mr. Biden’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt,” adding that “several defenses are likely to create reasonable doubt as to such charges.” Trump appeared to be referring Friday to the fact that Hur wrote in the report, “We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.” But Hur did not say he would have brought charges against Biden if not for this. Hur wrote at length about various facts of the case and possible Biden defenses that meant that he thought would make it too difficult for the government to win a unanimous guilty verdict. Immigration under Trump: Trump repeated two false claims about immigration statistics during his presidencies. First, he said, “In our first full month in office, we achieved the lowest level of illegal border crossings ever recorded.” He could have accurately said the number of migrant apprehensions by the Border Patrol in February 2025 – 8,347 – was the lowest in many decades, but it’s not the lowest number on record. Official federal statistics show there were fewer Border Patrol encounters with migrants at the southwest border in some of the months of the early 1960s and in years prior. Second, he said that “by the time I got out” of office the first time, “we had the lowest numbers ever. My favorite chart of all time was brought down that day and, on that chart, it said we had the lowest numbers ever.” But the chart doesn’t actually show that illegal immigration was at its lowest level at the time Trump left office, though text beside a red arrow on the chart claims that’s what it shows. In fact, the arrow actually points to April 2020, when Trump still had more than eight months left in his first term and when global migration had slowed to a trickle because of the Covid-19 pandemic. After hitting a roughly three-year low (not an all-time low) in April 2020, migration numbers at the southern border increased each month through the end of Trump’s first term. US and European aid to Ukraine: Trump repeated his debunked claim that the US has spent “maybe $350 billion” aiding Ukraine compared to $100 billion from Europe. Neither figure is correct. The $350 billion figure Trump has repeatedly cited is particularly inaccurate. According to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German think tank that closely tracks wartime aid to Ukraine, Europe – the European Union plus individual European countries – had collectively committed far more total wartime military, financial and humanitarian aid to Ukraine through December 2024 (about $269 billion at current exchange rates) than the US committed (about $129 billion). Europe had also allocated more military, financial and humanitarian aid (about $144 billion) than the US allocated (about $124 billion). It’s possible to arrive at different totals using different counting methodologies, but there is no apparent basis for Trump’s “$350 billion” figure. The US government inspector general overseeing the Ukraine response says on its website that the US had appropriated about $183 billion for the Ukraine response through December 2024, including about $83 billion actually disbursed – and that includes funding spent in the US or sent to countries other than Ukraine. US elections: Trump, vowing to restore “fairness” in the country, baselessly impugned the integrity of US elections, saying, “The elections, which were totally rigged, are a big factor.” He didn’t invoke the 2020 election in particular, as he usually does, but there is nonetheless no basis for a broader claim that recent “elections” in this country, plural, have been “totally rigged.” Iran and terror groups: Trump repeated his false claim that when he was president, Iran was “totally broke” and therefore “they weren’t giving any money to Hamas or Hezbollah.” Iran’s funding for terror groups did decline in the second half of his presidency, in large part because his sanctions on Iran had a major negative impact on the Iranian economy, but the funding never stopped entirely, as four experts told CNN in 2024. In fact, Trump’s own administration said in 2020 that Iran was continuing to fund terror groups including Hezbollah. 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Sean Mooney 1,937 Posted March 17 I wonder if the computers overheat from tracking all of Trump's lies. We've got one party in this country right now led by a pathological liar who could promise to defecate in people's mouths once they bend the knee and plenty of posters here would line up like a Black Friday sale line. The other party is an ineffective group of dolts who couldn't decide where they want to go for lunch, let alone try to lead the country. And they take their cues from Chuck Schumer- a guy who looks like a Keebler Elf made a wish to be taller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,185 Posted March 17 Lefties who's heads Trump lives in rent free: Squissy Nepo Timmy Rusty Gutterboy Newbie Steroid boy There are probably more but wading through all the aliases is difficult FACT!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,095 Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, Strike said: Lefties who's heads Trump lives in rent free: Squissy Nepo Timmy Rusty Gutterboy Newbie Steroid boy There are probably more but wading through all the aliases is difficult FACT!!! I'm not going to make a list of the people who would rather attack the messenger because they can't dispute the facts of the message. This thread makes that pretty self-evident. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,185 Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, Strike said: Lefties who's heads Trump lives in rent free: Squissy Nepo Timmy Rusty Gutterboy Newbie Steroid boy There are probably more but wading through all the aliases is difficult FACT!!! Add Mike Honcho to the list. FACT!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted March 17 Fun facts about Canada... While it's been stated that about 10% of Canadians would like Canada to be the 51st state, that 10% pretty much reside in Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba (the Prairie Provinces). Those 3 provinces, which are right leaning, would be perfectly fine with succeeding from Canada and become US states themselves. That would upset liberals, but there is merit to this. Quebec which is extremely liberal, has twice, recently... as in the 80's and 90's, talked about succeeding from Canada and being their own country. If Quebec did succeed, Ontario would likely go with them. If that happens, the rest of Canada would almost be forced to become US states. Why? Because as noted, the Prairie Provinces already would prefer to be a part of the US than the current far left leadership of Canada. With that, you're talking about 75% of Canada gone. British Columbia, the western most portion of Canada is extremely far left... more aligned with China than anyone else, so being a part of the US and along the Pacific Coast with California, Oregon, and Washington, they'd fit in perfectly. That leaves only the Atlantic Region. Cut off from the Prairie Provinces and bordering the New England states, there's no reason for them not to become US states. I'm not sure why ANYONE would really oppose this. Quebec doesn't want to be a part of Canada, the Prairie Provinces don't want to be a part of Canada. Really, it's only Ontario and the Atlantic Region. BC is ok with it too, but that's because the leftist Quebec is ok with BC being borderline communist. If Quebec does succeed, Canada would turn right-wing and BC would want out themselves. Probably be their own country though. That said, in the short-term, there's no downside to the US annexing the Prairie Provinces if they want to be US States. Here's a video of a guy (Canadian/American), talking about this 3 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,583 Posted March 17 2 hours ago, Strike said: Nepo Timmy I love it for old “thanks dad” tim Nepo timmy is going to be my go to now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,583 Posted March 17 2 hours ago, Strike said: Lefties who's heads Trump lives in rent free: Squissy Nepo Timmy Rusty Gutterboy Newbie Steroid boy There are probably more but wading through all the aliases is difficult FACT!!! The Generalissimo gets no respect. I think he needs to be added, he came down with the 2024 variant of tds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted March 17 2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said: I'm not going to make a list of the people who would rather attack the messenger because they can't dispute the facts of the message. This thread makes that pretty self-evident. True dat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,472 Posted March 17 Fact: Trumps your president Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted April 3 https://x.com/ddale8/status/1907836197549826525 Trump’s tariff speech yesterday: - Held up a chart that listed fictional tariff rates supposedly but not actually imposed by foreign countries - Falsely said hefty Canadian milk tariffs kick in after after the first “little carton” of US exports; in fact, they kick in after a USMCA-guaranteed tens of thousands of metric tons per year of zero-tariff US milk exports, a quota the US isn’t currently close to filling - Made the trade deficit with Canada sound more than five times higher than it is - Falsely said the tens of billions generated by his previous tariffs on Chinese imports were paid by China, though they were paid by US importers and passed on to US consumers - Falsely said no previous president generated even 10 cents from tariffs on China, though it was billions per year under Obama and though the US has had tariffs on Chinese imports since the late 1700s - Falsely though vaguely said the US was “proportionately the wealthiest it has ever been” from 1789 to 1913; by any reasonable measure, the country is vastly wealthier today - Falsely said inflation under Biden was the highest in US history; it peaked under Biden at the highest in 40 years but was nowhere close to the all-time high even at that 2022 peak - Said “gasoline is way under $3” though the national average was $3.24; did so while boasting “we brought prices way down,” though that was a 12-cent increase from the national average on his Inauguration Day - Claimed the Great Depression wouldn’t have happened if we’d just stuck with tariffs, making no mention of the Smoot-Hawley tariffs that worsened the depression 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,095 Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, squistion said: - Falsely though vaguely said the US was “proportionately the wealthiest it has ever been” from 1789 to 1913; by any reasonable measure, the country is vastly wealthier today Ah yes, the golden age, robber barons, no worker protections, work weeks of 60 hours and unrestricted child labor. Sounds great! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,922 Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said: Ah yes, the golden age, robber barons, no worker protections, work weeks of 60 hours and unrestricted child labor. Sounds great! Typed on a smart phone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 582 Posted April 3 Liberals "fact checking". They wouldn't know a fact if it punched them in the face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,829 Posted April 3 OP Summary: "My far-left liberal sources have told me Trump lies." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,922 Posted April 3 I never spoke with my son about his overseas business dealings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted April 18 https://x.com/ddale8/status/1913031236617986432 Daniel Dale @ddale8 The White House today responded to a fact-check request regarding a President Trump lie by telling another lie. Trump, rejecting inflation concerns, claimed today that gas “hit $1.98 yesterday in a couple of states.” Not true. No state had an average gas price lower than $2.70 yesterday, per AAA data; no metro area in the 500+ tracked by AAA had an average below $2.57; and the firm GasBuddy tells me it saw 0 individual stations selling for under $2.19 in the tens of thousands of stations it tracks. (Certainly possible there’s some extreme outlier somewhere in this large country, and some drivers get special discounts, but that wouldn’t justify the claim.) So I asked the White House what if anything the president was talking about. Spokesperson Harrison Fields provided a statement that not only didn’t substantiate the false claim, which is understandable, but added a new false claim. Fields said that if out-of-touch big-city reporters actually went and visited “the Middle America,” they’d see that “gas prices are at record lows.” Except…that’s not close to true either. Gas prices “aren't near record lows in a single state,” @GasBuddyGuy notes, and that’s true even adjusted for inflation. Prices were much lower during various previous periods, even during Trump’s first term. They were under $1 at times in the late ‘90s, for one. So I had to send Fields a second request for comment, asking for an explanation for the new false claim the White House decided to provide in defense of the other false claim. No response a few hours in. This is really not how almost any office in Washington tends to operate with these kinds of routine fact-check requests. Spokespeople might ignore a query about their bosses’ misstatement, play down the wrongness, pivot to a broader “the real issue is” point, offer attempted defenses on and off record, maybe criticize the reporter. But just making up more stuff is pretty rare, or used to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 299 Posted April 24 So much for the war in Ukraine ending on Day 1. So much for the price of eggs dropping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
