HB Localboy 121 Posted March 12 Boston beotch going to Sing Sing Chicago Mayor going to Robert Taylor Housing Project Minneapolis Mayor going to Somalia It's finally happening! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted March 12 Arresting them for what? I don't think those mayor's have violated any laws. Even if Bondi is creative with her charges, they won't hold up under a court challenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 375 Posted March 12 The "States Rights" party. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted March 12 I'm fine with sanctuary cities as long as those cities never get federal funding and those people NEVER leave the city. If they leave and go to another sanctuary city, then I'm ok with that too. If they go to a non-sanctuary city, then they can be deported with no issue. If it's a sanctuary state, I'm ok with this under the same premise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted March 12 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The "States Rights" party. The problem is, not every sanctuary city is in a sanctuary state. I'm fine with sanctuary cities and states, with my previous posts conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,472 Posted March 12 8 minutes ago, squistion said: Arresting them for what? I don't think those mayor's have violated any laws. Even if Bondi is creative with her charges, they won't hold up under a court challenge. For crimes against America Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,472 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I'm fine with sanctuary cities as long as those cities never get federal funding and those people NEVER leave the city. If they leave and go to another sanctuary city, then I'm ok with that too. If they go to a non-sanctuary city, then they can be deported with no issue. If it's a sanctuary state, I'm ok with this under the same premise. You usually have decent takes, this isn’t one of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,918 Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The "States Rights" party. The 10 th amendment gives the power to the states for anything not covered in the constitution. Thats the basis for states rights. Immigration is covered in the constitution. Nice job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: You usually have decent takes, this isn’t one of them States rights. I believe in letting state regulate their own constituency. The thing is, they'll have to forfeit any and all federal money. The United States has a boundary to protect. If a state wishes to go against that, then they pay a price. That price is no federal funding, for anything, at all. Money is fungible. So, there's no way to regulate and ensure that federal money isn't being used to help illegal immigrants, so the only way to protect the federal boundary and money, is that these states are 100% financially independent. If the residents of that state are ok with it, so am I. If people don't like it, then they vote to change the laws... or move to a state that better supports their beliefs. I do think a wrinkle that would need to be addressed is sanctuary cities that are not in sanctuary states. My inclination is that the state allows it, but withholds any and all state funding. That city must be 100% financially independent. That said, as @Hardcore troubadour pointed out, this isn't a States Rights issue. I'm just willing to meet them in the middle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,182 Posted March 12 They need to be evicted by the time the next census happens and state populations are measured for Congressional Seat reapportionment. In the mean time, they can suck blue state taxpayers dry. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,472 Posted March 12 18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: States rights. I believe in letting state regulate their own constituency. The thing is, they'll have to forfeit any and all federal money. The United States has a boundary to protect. If a state wishes to go against that, then they pay a price. That price is no federal funding, for anything, at all. Money is fungible. So, there's no way to regulate and ensure that federal money isn't being used to help illegal immigrants, so the only way to protect the federal boundary and money, is that these states are 100% financially independent. If the residents of that state are ok with it, so am I. If people don't like it, then they vote to change the laws... or move to a state that better supports their beliefs. I do think a wrinkle that would need to be addressed is sanctuary cities that are not in sanctuary states. My inclination is that the state allows it, but withholds any and all state funding. That city must be 100% financially independent. That said, as @Hardcore troubadour pointed out, this isn't a States Rights issue. I'm just willing to meet them in the middle. We need to stop meeting them in the middle. We always go to their middle and have for decades. They lost all 3 branches of government and nothing should be middle ground while we have an opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,182 Posted March 12 As for Bondi arresting sanctuary city mayors, I'll believe it when I see it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted March 12 20 minutes ago, Voltaire said: As for Bondi arresting sanctuary city mayors, I'll believe it when I see it. This. These mayors have done a reasonable job of being corrupt without crossing the line to my eyes. I think Bondi could take action against them, but then she is mimicking the abuses of the Democrats through lawfare; I do not see the behaving like Democrats is really at all what we need right now. Some might see it as FAFO and all that, but havent we had enough of the childishness of liberals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: This. These mayors have done a reasonable job of being corrupt without crossing the line to my eyes. I think Bondi could take action against them, but then she is mimicking the abuses of the Democrats through lawfare; I do not see the behaving like Democrats is really at all what we need right now. Some might see it as FAFO and all that, but havent we had enough of the childishness of liberals? So the left gets to lawfare as much as they want, but the Republicans are supposed to be above the board on this? When do they get to be held accountable? I say what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Maybe a taste of their own medicine will open their eyes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The "States Rights" party. States don't have the right to harbor ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. THEIR ILLEGAL YOU LUNATIC! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,889 Posted March 12 Sanctuary states should forfeit congressional seats and federal funding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted March 12 Is she doing this before or after the Epstein ordeal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: So the left gets to lawfare as much as they want, but the Republicans are supposed to be above the board on this? When do they get to be held accountable? I say what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Maybe a taste of their own medicine will open their eyes. Don't' allow yourself to become the vile thing you oppose. I am not saying it is easy. When left to choose between what is easy and what is right Democrats always choose easy, dont be like that. If we can avoid becoming just as despicable, and instead behave like adults, we win in the end. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted March 13 10 minutes ago, RLLD said: Don't' allow yourself to become the vile thing you oppose. I am not saying it is easy. When left to choose between what is easy and what is right Democrats always choose easy, dont be like that. If we can avoid becoming just as despicable, and instead behave like adults, we win in the end. Well something needs to be done when they don't follow federal law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted March 13 2 hours ago, iam90sbaby said: We need to stop meeting them in the middle. We always go to their middle and have for decades. They lost all 3 branches of government and nothing should be middle ground while we have an opportunity. I don't disagree with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Gepetto said: Well something needs to be done when they don't follow federal law. Cut federal funding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted March 13 12 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Well something needs to be done when they don't follow federal law. I do not dispute that. I just want reason and rationality to take the lead. If we look at how Democrats abused the legal system to get Trump for years....I don't want to see ANY more of that, from either side. I do no dispute that Democrats deserve to have it done to them, but I insist Republicans not lower themselves to that level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted March 13 4 hours ago, RLLD said: Don't' allow yourself to become the vile thing you oppose. I am not saying it is easy. When left to choose between what is easy and what is right Democrats always choose easy, dont be like that. If we can avoid becoming just as despicable, and instead behave like adults, we win in the end. You have learned not a got damn thing over the last 5 years. It's focking war 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,889 Posted March 13 5 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Cut federal funding. Agreed. States also should not get extra congressional seats based on illegal population. That needs to be addressed too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted March 13 5 hours ago, thegeneral said: Sure she is Agree, it'll never happen. Take funding away yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted March 13 12 hours ago, RLLD said: Don't' allow yourself to become the vile thing you oppose. I am not saying it is easy. When left to choose between what is easy and what is right Democrats always choose easy, dont be like that. If we can avoid becoming just as despicable, and instead behave like adults, we win in the end. I hear what you're saying. However, the problem is the left is NEVER held accountable for their actions, so they get to keep doing it over and over and over again. At some point you have to fight fire with more fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,482 Posted March 13 7 hours ago, lickin_starfish said: Agreed. States also should not get extra congressional seats based on illegal population. That needs to be addressed too. That I completely agree with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,120 Posted March 13 15 hours ago, Voltaire said: As for Bondi arresting sanctuary city mayors, I'll believe it when I see it. I would have thought this was crazy just a few months ago, but Trump is clearly not well. We've got a modern day Caligula on our hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted March 13 37 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I hear what you're saying. However, the problem is the left is NEVER held accountable for their actions, so they get to keep doing it over and over and over again. At some point you have to fight fire with more fire. What you are saying is true. And I get it. My worry is that those on the left have become so unhinged and detached from reality that returning their own acts back on to them could really escalate the violence we are already observing from them. Eventually, it could turn into a real war on the streets. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted March 13 10 minutes ago, MDC said: I would have thought this was crazy just a few months ago, but Trump is clearly not well. We've got a modern day Caligula on our hands. Caligula arrested sanctuary city mayors of other states too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Caligula arrested sanctuary city mayors of other states too? The liberals are officially focked in the head. Trump put the final stake in. They have been stupid for years, but now, they are officially shltting their pants with ignorance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,182 Posted March 13 7 hours ago, MDC said: I would have thought this was crazy just a few months ago, but Trump is clearly not well. We've got a modern day Caligula on our hands. This seems more a Biden thing than a Trump thing. Trump just fires people, whereas Biden is the one who throws political opponents in jail. I was hoping we'd move past that with Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites