Ron_Artest 1,488 Posted March 20 1 minute ago, RLLD said: No, more people voted for Trump, that is how he was elected, and garnered the popular vote as well. So that is false right on it face. More people, according to CNN polling as well as others, support what he is doing than oppose it. So you are not telling the truth. The economy angle is something I have already stated you might want to be careful with here, those numbers are already improving, to keep pretending he will damage it might result in further loss of credibility for folks like you SO yeah, everything is pointing to the wider public supporting him, so again, if you want to keep opposing what the majority of people want, that is fine....but later when the mid terms come around, remember you were warned it might cause you further losses. Facts are important. Here are some facts: Donald Trump received 77,303,568 votes (49.81%). All others received 77,897,589 (50.19%). Source: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024 More people voted against Trump than voted for him. FACT. The latest CNN poll has Trump at a 45% overall job approval rating, with 54% disapproving. Source: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/politics/cnn-poll-trump-economy/index.html Other polls support this disapproval rating Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/03/19/trump-approval-rating-tracker-heres-where-he-stands-after-2-months-marked-by-court-battles-trade-wars/ Saying there is wide public support for Trump is a lie. You have been proven a liar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,750 Posted March 20 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: This is wrong. The latest CNN poll has Trump’s approval rating as underwater. Sorry correction that was Ipsos. Not sure about CNN they’re not listed. My bad. Trump’s numbers are plunging. Here is a review: https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/getting-bad-poll-after-poll-donald-trumps-ratings-plunge-heres-the-latest-one-and-where-the-problem-is-coming-from-and-why-it-matters/amp_articleshow/119260298.cms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,488 Posted March 20 1 minute ago, RLLD said: No, I posted it, more people still support him. Now, I expect that to change perhaps in the future, but right now they support him. Instead of just opposing Trump, the Demorats should come forward with a competing vision and solutions. But right now, the insistence on just opposing....not working. You posted a video from 6 weeks ago. I posted the latest poll which proves you wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted March 20 Emerson College polling from March 11th has 48% of people disapproving of Trump's handling of the economy with 37% approving it. NBC polling has 54% disapproving and 44% approving of Trump's handling of the economy (the first time in any NBC poll he has had a majority disapproving of his economy handling) A Reuters/Ipsos poll from March 12th shows 57% of Americans (1 in 3 Republicans) says his policies are too unsteady on the economy/inflation/etc Quinnipac polling from 03/13 has 54% disapproving and 41% approving of his handling of the economy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Facts are important. Here are some facts: Donald Trump received 77,303,568 votes (49.81%). All others received 77,897,589 (50.19%). Source: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024 More people voted against Trump than voted for him. FACT. The latest CNN poll has Trump at a 45% overall job approval rating, with 54% disapproving. Source: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/politics/cnn-poll-trump-economy/index.html Other polls support this disapproval rating Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/03/19/trump-approval-rating-tracker-heres-where-he-stands-after-2-months-marked-by-court-battles-trade-wars/ Saying there is wide public support for Trump is a lie. You have been proven a liar. 1) He was elected, and with the popular vote 2) He is doing what he promised, and polling suggests most people like it Period. Now look, I get that Democrats want to keep gaslighting and maybe continue the lying that distinguished the Biden admin, but keep in mind all that lying......it was part of why Trump won again....are you sure you really want to propagate liberal lies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,750 Posted March 20 @RLLD your facts are just wrong on this. The public does NOT approve of Trump, and most of the public do NOT want Democrats cooperating with Trump especially on the economy. That is why Democrat numbers are so low, because Schumer appears to have caved. Personally I approved of what Schumer did but the public does not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: You posted a video from 6 weeks ago. I posted the latest poll which proves you wrong. And there is the one from last week as well. But look, eventually his numbers should dip, I think we can all agree that is likely going to happen. And they should dip and stay low for a few months. Unfocking liberal policies is not easy. Now, will they get as low as the view of Democrats? I certainly hope not, no one should be disliked as much as Democrats are right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted March 20 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: @RLLD your facts are just wrong on this. The public does NOT approve of Trump, and most of the public do NOT want Democrats cooperating with Trump especially on the economy. That is why Democrat numbers are so low, because Schumer appears to have caved. Personally I approved of what Schumer did but the public does not. Yes they do. The have and they do. Not everyone of course, but most do. I consent that this could change as more is done to unwind the harm caused by Democrats. But I think he and we have to accept that eventuality and stay the course. We cannot allow the fix to be completely impeded by these inane people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,400 Posted March 20 Leftards weren’t this concerned about Bidens poll numbers. Trump! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,610 Posted March 20 That ‘tism is hitting hard today huh? @The Real timschochet @Ron_Artest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,770 Posted March 20 22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I really should stop responding to you because almost everything you write is bullsh!t…but whatever. Please provide link to me ever condoning violence on Tesla owners (or for that matter anyone else.) Do you denounce political violence? Do you support the vandalism and terrorism against Tesla and Tesla owners? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,610 Posted March 20 18 hours ago, thegeneral said: Cyber truck is a flop, their new battery system they were hyping is a flop, their self driving is a flop, there is growing completion in this area and their cars are not leaps and bounds ahead anymore. Let’s look at their stock and valuation. Trickier thing to quantify. Donald’s online diary stock for instance has crazy value and that shet company makes no money and is worthless. We can agree Tesla’s value is based on potential and growth no? Look at their P/E ration versus other leading car makers. Now you have Elon who has alienated like half the country. Other regions don’t seem to be a fan either. Sales are down in EU and China like 50%. Their sales in US are lagging. Some of this based on the factors already talked about but Elon is also a big part of that. That is why you are seeing their stock dropping like 3-4X other big dog tech companies during this sell off. Anecdotally, have owned a Tesla and thought it was an amazing car. Have another EV now and will likely always have at least one EV in my household. I don’t see myself buying another Tesla for a variety of reasons. I am not alone. What does any of this have to do with the company having the same valuation as it did just 5-6 months ago AFTER an all time high? You’re talking out of your azz like always Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,087 Posted March 21 Like I said, violence is a feature of the left, not an exception. At some point, they'll push too hard and all hell is going to break loose. The right stood bye for a long time and let the left keep their slaves, but the left pushed it enough to start a Civil War. When that happens, expect the right to clean it up once again. If these leftists are going to cause violence and destruction in our society, then they must be removed from it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,204 Posted March 21 4 hours ago, iam90sbaby said: What does any of this have to do with the company having the same valuation as it did just 5-6 months ago AFTER an all time high? You’re talking out of your azz like always What do all the things I laid out have to do with the stock tanking hard? Gee I wonder: The company’s future has taken a complete 180 was my point. Things are very cloudy for them which is wild considering their position a short time ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,096 Posted March 21 9 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Like I said, violence is a feature of the left, not an exception. At some point, they'll push too hard and all hell is going to break loose. The right stood bye for a long time and let the left keep their slaves, but the left pushed it enough to start a Civil War. When that happens, expect the right to clean it up once again. If these leftists are going to cause violence and destruction in our society, then they must be removed from it. Remember when democrats lit crosses on fire in front yards to intimidate black folks? Same playbook. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,087 Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said: Remember when democrats lit crosses on fire in front yards to intimidate black folks? Same playbook. Yep. The increasing level of violence the left is committing in this country over the last decade is pushing this country to a civil war. It's not going to end well for them. As usual, they are on the wrong side of History once again. They only have themselves to blame. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,194 Posted March 21 https://x.com/TimHannan/status/1902515022624125067 (Fox News Clip at link) Just to be clear: Throwing feces inside the US Capitol = Good Throwing feces at a Tesla = Bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,770 Posted March 21 The old squissy straw man 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,087 Posted March 21 14 minutes ago, HellToupee said: The old squissy straw man And that's the closest he'll ever be to becoming a man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,846 Posted March 21 Polls are manipulated and meaningless. The only polls that matter are elections. 2024 was a Trumpslide. He has a mandate and support of true Americans. Until next time shut up and enjoy the MAGA movement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,488 Posted March 21 Trump threatens to send Tesla vandals to El Salvador prisons 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,846 Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Trump threatens to send Tesla vandals to El Salvador prisons I’m fine with that. Gitmo should also be an option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,343 Posted March 21 6 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: Remember when democrats lit crosses on fire in front yards to intimidate black folks? Same playbook. derp derp derp or something party switched sides!!! racism OMB, NAZI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,250 Posted March 21 "Elon and Trump are Nazis" Elon and Trump: We support Israel. The programmers took a term that really gets liberals blood boiling and slapped it onto Trump and Elon knowing liberals would ignore that the term does not fit the definition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,250 Posted March 21 Look at this loon harassing a woman https://x.com/KatieDaviscourt/status/1902951863819112867?s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,250 Posted March 21 I recommend following Brian Cates if you don't. He knows. The deep state is in effing trouble. Here's a hint libs, if this stuff didn't happen under Biden, but it does under Trump, you need to really sit down and ask yourself why. Is Trump so bad that he just brings out the worst in people? Or maybe the fact that many establishment liberal friends turned on him is an indicator that maybe the deep state didn't want Trump in office. If the deep state doesn't want him in office, then it's probably more for our benefit that he is. Rather than a puppet like Kamala. https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1903127996623396926?s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,194 Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: I recommend following Brian Cates if you don't. He knows. The deep state is in effing trouble. Here's a hint libs, if this stuff didn't happen under Biden, but it does under Trump, you need to really sit down and ask yourself why. Is Trump so bad that he just brings out the worst in people? Or maybe the fact that many establishment liberal friends turned on him is an indicator that maybe the deep state didn't want Trump in office. If the deep state doesn't want him in office, then it's probably more for our benefit that he is. Rather than a puppet like Kamala. https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1903127996623396926?s=19 Rhetorical question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,250 Posted March 21 Just now, squistion said: Rhetorical question. You really think that's it? Your going to blame Trump for bad feelings coming out of people? Your victim mindset is your downfall. Your side cannot win when they see themselves as victims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,449 Posted March 21 It was all the weaklings that bought Teslas in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Horseman said: It was all the weaklings that bought Teslas in the first place. Liberals are terrorizing there own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,194 Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: You really think that's it? Your going to blame Trump for bad feelings coming out of people? Your victim mindset is your downfall. Your side cannot win when they see themselves as victims. All he and Musk have done is create bad feelings coming out of thousands of people...and it has only just started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,250 Posted March 21 Just now, squistion said: All he and Musk have done is create bad feelings coming out of thousands of people...and it has only just started. Blaming others for your feelings is where you give away your power to someone else. We should be on the same side, against the deep state. I'm not saying Trump is perfect, but it's obvious the deep state is fighting back hard. That should at the very least be an indication to you that things aren't as black and white as you were lead to believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,401 Posted March 21 Imagine seeing a billionaire brag about laying tens of thousands of Americans off and talk about jailing his enemies and think, “This guy is in MY side!” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,985 Posted March 21 4 minutes ago, squistion said: All he and Musk have done is create bad feelings coming out of thousands of people...and it has only just started. Our Cities are burning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,488 Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: You really think that's it? Your going to blame Trump for bad feelings coming out of people? Your victim mindset is your downfall. Your side cannot win when they see themselves as victims. Donald Trump has the biggest victim mindeset I've ever seen in anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,488 Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, MDC said: Imagine seeing a billionaire brag about laying tens of thousands of Americans off and talk about jailing his enemies and think, “This guy is in MY side!” It's a focking cult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,488 Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Blaming others for your feelings is where you give away your power to someone else. We should be on the same side, against the deep state. I'm not saying Trump is perfect, but it's obvious the deep state is fighting back hard. That should at the very least be an indication to you that things aren't as black and white as you were lead to believe. DEEP STATE You're right though we should all be on the same side. Hardworking, Honest, Law Abiding Americans who want their families to succeed and treat their neighbors kindly and justly vs Grifting, Lying, Stealing, power hungry Elitist thugs who want to steal from the poor and enrich their friends and fock over anyone that disagrees with them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,985 Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: You're right though we should all be on the same side. Hardworking, Honest, Law Abiding Americans who want their families to succeed and treat their neighbors kindly and justly And penisses in Women's bathrooms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,400 Posted March 21 I see MDC took down his pedophile post. What a wuss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,250 Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: "Elon and Trump are Nazis" Elon and Trump: We support Israel. The programmers took a term that really gets liberals blood boiling and slapped it onto Trump and Elon knowing liberals would ignore that the term does not fit the definition. Not surprising that none of the board liberals responded to this. They don't see how they are being lead by the nose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites