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Illegal immigrants charged in brutal murder during California home invasion, robbery

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Great stuff liberals. 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrants-charged-brutal-murder-california-home-invasion-robbery

Authorities revealed that three men recently arrested by the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) in connection with a home invasion, murder and robbery in Woodland Hills are illegal immigrants from Eastern Europe.

The suspects, Georgian nationals Paata Kochyashvili, 38, Zaza Otarashvili, 46, and Besiki Khutsishvili, 52, are each charged with murder. Their bail is set at $2 million.

Fox News learned all three men were in the U.S. illegally and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) placed detainers on them.

LAPD officers responded to a home in Woodland Hills just before 1 a.m. on April 26 for a death investigation.

Aleksandre Modebadze, 47, was found with a head injury and was pronounced dead at the scene by Los Angeles City Fire paramedics, according to FOX 11 Los Angeles.

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3 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

The suspects, Georgian nationals Paata Kochyashvili, 38, Zaza Otarashvili, 46, and Besiki Khutsishvili, 52, are each charged with murder. Their bail is set at $2 million.

The victim’s name Aleksandre Modebadze suggests these people knew each other. They sound Caucasian, maybe Armenian, Azeri or Georgian. “Vili” is a common ending for Georgian names.

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37 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Nothing to see here.  ALL illegal immigrants are sob stories and just want a better life.  We should have no borders.

“It’s absolutely insane to see this in a neighborhood like this,” said one neighbor. “There’s a strange uptick in crime.”

 

yes a strange uptick in crime

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1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

“It’s absolutely insane to see this in a neighborhood like this,” said one neighbor. “There’s a strange uptick in crime.”

 

yes a strange uptick in crime

Because a Georgian moved in. L.A. has a whole neighborhood called “Little Armenia.”

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Because a Georgian moved in. L.A. has a whole neighborhood called “Little Armenia.”

What does that have to do with Woodland Hills?

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3 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

Aleksandre Modebadze

He was the 2nd Israeli murdered within 24hrs.  Just a coincidence 
 

“Local police said the attack appeared to be premeditated and was staged to look like a robbery.”

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38 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

The victim’s name Aleksandre Modebadze suggests these people knew each other. They sound Caucasian, maybe Armenian, Azeri or Georgian. “Vili” is a common ending for Georgian names.

This rotten person has to make it about race. You suck. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This rotten person has to make it about race. You suck. 

Georgian on Georgian crime in Woodland Hills has to be the most anecdotal, anomalous story in world history. When did they get here? How did they get here? Did they know each other? What was the motive? 

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13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What does that have to do with Woodland Hills?

It has a lot to do with Caucasians coming to this country & L.A. in particular & having a perfectly fine reputation. There could be a hundred explanations for this story but the one reported element is “illegal”.

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52 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

The victim’s name Aleksandre Modebadze suggests these people knew each other. They sound Caucasian, maybe Armenian, Azeri or Georgian. “Vili” is a common ending for Georgian names.

The murderers were illegals. Or are you making this about race because that's all liberals care about? 

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6 minutes ago, jbycho said:

The murderers were illegals. Or are you making this about race because that's all liberals care about? 

If Georgians were flooding into this country instead of Mexicans most of maga wouldn’t care. In fact most Americans couldn’t show their paperwork for how their people got here.

And immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than US citizens.

I’m in favor of enforcing the INA. If you want to enforce the law enforce it, don’t dig up random anecdotes to justify elimination of immigration altogether by scaring people.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

If Georgians were flooding into this country instead of Mexicans most of maga wouldn’t care. In fact most Americans couldn’t show their paperwork for how they got here.

And immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than US citizens.

I’m in favor of enforcing the INA. If you want to enforce the law enforce it, don’t dig up random anecdotes to justify elimination of immigration altogether by scaring people.

You are making shlt up. 

Closed borders are all that's been the focus. It just happens that certain races are culturally more violent than others.

But I don't want any illegals in this country. Get rid of ALL of them. 

You freaking racist.

 

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22 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Fingers crossed it was Tim? That’d be some poetic justice 

It wasn't.  Tim lives 90 miles south east of there.  But that's where I grew up and where Oldmaid lives currently.   Very sad.

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25 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Closed borders are all that's been the focus. It just happens that certain races are culturally more violent than others.

But I don't want any illegals in this country. Get rid of ALL of them. 

However - among other issues - foreign travelers who are doing so legally are having their phones & social media checked by TSA. And Americans & others with legal authority to be here being deported & even renditioned to foreign jails. While the president himself, who now rules by fiat, declares that due process is unnecessary and that he doesn’t think he has to follow his oath to uphold the Constitution.

Stories like this have no bearing on reality. There isn’t a war, there is no sedition from immigrants, and immigration legal or illegal doesn’t increase crime in this country, from any ethnicity much less Georgians.

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11 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

 

Stories like this have no bearing on reality. There isn’t a war, there is no sedition from immigrants, and immigration legal or illegal doesn’t increase crime in this country, from any ethnicity much less Georgians.

No.  Stories like this absolutely reflect on reality.  I can understand why people like you don't want to acknowledge that though.

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46 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

If Georgians were flooding into this country instead of Mexicans most of maga wouldn’t care. In fact most Americans couldn’t show their paperwork for how their people got here.

And immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than US citizens.

I’m in favor of enforcing the INA. If you want to enforce the law enforce it, don’t dig up random anecdotes to justify elimination of immigration altogether by scaring people.

Bullshitt. My prejudices against Eastern Europeans are well documented here. Funny racist liberals like you love to hang your Ukrainian flag but give zero shitts about Sudan. 

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56 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

If Georgians were flooding into this country instead of Mexicans most of maga wouldn’t care. In fact most Americans couldn’t show their paperwork for how their people got here.

And immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than US citizens.

I’m in favor of enforcing the INA. If you want to enforce the law enforce it, don’t dig up random anecdotes to justify elimination of immigration altogether by scaring people.

I can show paperwork, the logs from Ellis Island, for three out of four of my grandparents.  The fourth I can show paperwork that he served in WWI and was employed by the Dept of War in WWII.  I can show birth certs. for both parents showing one born in Beloit and the other in Chicago.  I can show a birth cert. for me showing i was born in Shorewood Wi.

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1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Biden regime was so bad even gang killing jobs got stolen by illegals.   

They are committing crimes that American gangs just won't commit.

 

Who knew that when we suppressed the mobs, both Italian and Irish, the Hells Angels, the Jokers, the Sons of Silence, the Crips and the Bloods that we would have created a void, a vacuum.  Nature abhoring a vacuum took over.

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22 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

They are committing crimes that American gangs just won't commit.

 

Who knew that when we suppressed the mobs, both Italian and Irish, the Hells Angels, the Jokers, the Sons of Silence, the Crips and the Bloods that we would have created a void, a vacuum.  Nature abhoring a vacuum took over.

Let’s not praise them, already to much praise being given to lesser of two evils, trump. 

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26 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I can show paperwork, the logs from Ellis Island, for three out of four of my grandparents.  The fourth I can show paperwork that he served in WWI and was employed by the Dept of War in WWII.  I can show birth certs. for both parents showing one born in Beloit and the other in Chicago.  I can show a birth cert. for me showing i was born in Shorewood Wi.

So what? Do you think any of that means sh!t to a Cherokee? You have no more right to be here than anyone without documents. It’s whatever we decide at the moment. If a new law is passed deporting you, out you go. 

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9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So what? Do you think any of that means sh!t to a Cherokee? You have no more right to be here than anyone without documents. It’s whatever we decide at the moment. If a new law is passed deporting you, out you go. 

I was responding to a specific post, not justifying my claim of right to be present here generally.  (It was a point of interest, not a universal justification) As to the Cherokee, they did not spring from the earth, they came over the land bridge 17,000 years ago.  Historicially we are all immigrants except those who remained in and around the Olgalvy Gorge.  Another stupid point by an idiot, a non sequitur to try to justify violations of current world legal norms by prehistory standards, standards preceeding legal concepts and concepts of nations.  Good job, as usual, dipshit.

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14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So what? Do you think any of that means sh!t to a Cherokee?

I dunno.  Let's ask Liz Warren.

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It has a lot to do with Caucasians coming to this country & L.A. in particular & having a perfectly fine reputation. There could be a hundred explanations for this story but the one reported element is “illegal”.

The fact that a "Little Armenia" exists in the second largest city in the country is not surprising, and its name speaks nothing of a "perfectly fine reputation." 

I've noticed recently that you like to respond with red herrings like this.  I thought of it yesterday in your long exchange with Voltaire; it was like you didn't read a word he said. :dunno: 

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19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So what? Do you think any of that means sh!t to a Cherokee? You have no more right to be here than anyone without documents. It’s whatever we decide at the moment. If a new law is passed deporting you, out you go. 

You might also want to differentiate between moral rights and legal rights when you speak of rights, since I clearly have every legal right to be here and have a far better case to be here as to legal rights.  As to my moral right to be free and present upon the earth where I choose to be, and others rights to do the same, you may well have a point, but of course that is not the discussion.  You would like it to be the discussion, you would like to conflate the issues since on the current discussion, on the legal issue, you lose.  Dipshit.

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26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So what? Do you think any of that means sh!t to a Cherokee? You have no more right to be here than anyone without documents. It’s whatever we decide at the moment. If a new law is passed deporting you, out you go. 

I wonder, do you think the Jews have the right to the land currently called the West Bank, which correct historical name is Judea and Samaria.  The "Ju" in Judea being where "Jew" comes from.  Jews were there centuries if not millennia before Islam even existed.  :dunno: 

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19 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I was responding to a specific post, not justifying my claim of right to be present here generally.  (It was a point of interest, not a universal justification) As to the Cherokee, they did not spring from the earth, they came over the land bridge 17,000 years ago.  Historicially we are all immigrants except those who remained in and around the Olgalvy Gorge.  Another stupid point by an idiot, a non sequitur to try to justify violations of current world legal norms by prehistory standards, standards preceeding legal concepts and concepts of nations.  Good job, as usual, dipshit.

Well thanks for that. But of course you’re right the Cherokee have no more right to be here than we do and we have no more right to be here then undocumented immigrants. I’m sick of people lucky enough to be born here complaining about others who came here by any means they could. I’m sick of the anti-immigrant crap, and blaming millions of  innocent people for the crimes of a few. If that offends you, if it makes you think I’m an idiot, sorry about that. (Actually I’m not.) 

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2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I wonder, do you think the Jews have the right to the land currently called the West Bank, which correct historical name is Judea and Samaria.  The "Ju" in Judea being where "Jew" comes from.  Jews were there centuries if not millennia before Islam even existed.  :dunno: 

They don’t. It’s a completely different topic and very complicated but the short answer is no. (However most current Palestinians don’t have the right to that land either. ) 

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13 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

You might also want to differentiate between moral rights and legal rights when you speak of rights, since I clearly have every legal right to be here and have a far better case to be here as to legal rights.  As to my moral right to be free and present upon the earth where I choose to be, and others rights to do the same, you may well have a point, but of course that is not the discussion.  You would like it to be the discussion, you would like to conflate the issues since on the current discussion, on the legal issue, you lose.  Dipshit.

Yes you are correct. You have the legal right to be here and undocumented people do not, I would like to change that (not for you but for them) but currently you’re correct. You didn’t really need to point it out, but whatever. 

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18 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The fact that a "Little Armenia" exists in the second largest city in the country is not surprising, and its name speaks nothing of a "perfectly fine reputation." 

I've noticed recently that you like to respond with red herrings like this.  I thought of it yesterday in your long exchange with Voltaire; it was like you didn't read a word he said. :dunno: 

I’ll try to pay attention better, thank you for the comment. My point was just that Armenians & other people in the Caucasus have lived in L.A. for decades with little worry for decades.

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

No im safe. But gee thanks for the good wishes. 

Well this is a buzzkill 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes you are correct. You have the legal right to be here and undocumented people do not, I would like to change that (not for you but for them) but currently you’re correct. You didn’t really need to point it out, but whatever. 

So you think the Palestinians have every right to take up residence in Israel I assume.  What do you think would happen to the Jews in Israel if they had an open border?  I mean, you can't just be in favor of an open border in the U.S..

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1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

I can show paperwork, the logs from Ellis Island, for three out of four of my grandparents.  The fourth I can show paperwork that he served in WWI and was employed by the Dept of War in WWII.  I can show birth certs. for both parents showing one born in Beloit and the other in Chicago.  I can show a birth cert. for me showing i was born in Shorewood Wi.

Ellis Island is definitely an exception. There were a myriad of other ports of entry including non-US like Toronto & Veracruz.

Eh much respect to you & your family but the certificates of birth don’t tell how that branch & it’s forbears got here.

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16 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Dipshit.

Interesting, since I was brought into this thread by a guy wishing it had been me who had been raped and murdered. That comment, which, putting me aside, represents the incredible fanaticism that has taken over the anti-immigrant movement in this country, failed to elicit any comment from you. My very rational and reasonable response to your stating the facts of your lucky birth did. That’s illuminating. 

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2 minutes ago, Strike said:

So you think the Palestinians have every right to take up residence in Israel I assume.  What do you think would happen to the Jews in Israel if they had an open border?  I mean, you can't just be in favor of an open border in the U.S..

I’m not in favor of an open border in the U.S. And Israel is a tiny country with almost no available land. If that were the case here my views would be quite different, but it isn’t. 

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