Israel attacks Iran UPDATE: The US has entered the fray

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

A small timer with a nuke is still a nuclear threat. Your TDS prevents you from thinking normal for even  a split second and thinking before you post. 

Having never served and getting all of his information at the far-left glory hole has stunted Ghey_Artest's brain.  It's really the size of a dime.

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

I wonder if RLLD will come into the thread now to admit I was right?

[MDC 7,279]

On 6/19/2025 at 1:45 PM, MDC said:

If we get involved, it will be amusing to see the MAGA America First / POTUS of Peace crowd pivot hard to making neocon arguments for regime change in Iran. 

 

[lickin_starfish 1,919]

I just wanted the Epstein clients arrested and a Fort Knox audit. Instead, we get another war on behalf of Israel.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

2 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

I just wanted the Epstein clients arrested and a Fort Knox audit. Instead, we get another war on behalf of Israel.

Can't we have them all?  They're not mutually exclusive, are they?

[MDC 7,279]

Amazing how we discovered the imminent threat of Iranian nukes right after they were attacked by Israel.

Oy vey!  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,248]

53 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I wonder if RLLD will come into the thread now to admit I was right?

I hope so. Sounds like you need to hear it. From a stranger on the internet.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,901]

37 minutes ago, MDC said:

Amazing how we discovered the imminent threat of Iranian nukes right after they were attacked by Israel.

Oy vey!  

Trump stopped a War 

Biden did nothing and let one happen in Ukraine, who's the Boss?? 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

The JCPOA is signed which severely restricted Iran's nuclear program. By all reports of the IAEA- Iran was within compliance on their end of the deal.

Trump pulls us out of the deal saying he could make a better one. He does not. We also get nothing under Biden.

A year after Trump pulls us out of the deal Iran starts reneging on the deal. 

Then Trump comes back into office and watches Israel (who again- has their own nuclear weapon programs and capabilities which is not reported on enough) bomb Iran and speaks out in favor of it (despite what RLLD believes) and then drops bunker bombs on Iran's nuclear stuff.

 

I was told you don't get credit for trying to fix a problem you created by posters here

[thegeneral 3,108]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The JCPOA is signed which severely restricted Iran's nuclear program. By all reports of the IAEA- Iran was within compliance on their end of the deal.

Trump pulls us out of the deal saying he could make a better one. He does not. We also get nothing under Biden.

A year after Trump pulls us out of the deal Iran starts reneging on the deal. 

Then Trump comes back into office and watches Israel (who again- has their own nuclear weapon programs and capabilities which is not reported on enough) bomb Iran and speaks out in favor of it (despite what RLLD believes) and then drops bunker bombs on Iran's nuclear stuff.

 

I was told you don't get credit for trying to fix a problem you created by posters here

Good luck! This kinda ended my convo in another thread.

I would add our IC said in March that Iran wasn’t close to a bomb. Using reports from the agency that said Iran was in compliance in 2018 before the US backed out of the deal it is now determined that we have to bomb.

[seafoam1 2,917]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The JCPOA is signed which severely restricted Iran's nuclear program. By all reports of the IAEA- Iran was within compliance on their end of the deal.

Trump pulls us out of the deal saying he could make a better one. He does not. We also get nothing under Biden.

A year after Trump pulls us out of the deal Iran starts reneging on the deal. 

Then Trump comes back into office and watches Israel (who again- has their own nuclear weapon programs and capabilities which is not reported on enough) bomb Iran and speaks out in favor of it (despite what RLLD believes) and then drops bunker bombs on Iran's nuclear stuff.

 

I was told you don't get credit for trying to fix a problem you created by posters here

These libbies NEVER quit whining. It's amazing how they don't even realize it's become their whole life. 

These dopes literally have nothing else to do in life. 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

9 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Good luck! This kinda ended my convo in another thread.

I would add our IC said in March that Iran wasn’t close to a bomb. Using reports from the agency that said Iran was in compliance in 2018 before the US backed out of the deal it is now determined that we have to bomb.

Yeah i didn't even get into what Tulsi said which Trump basically said "She's lying."

I know there will be excuses or "These situations (R) different" bad faith arguments put forward

[Cdub100 3,885]

The ole weapons of mass destruction hoax.

Seems like every generation is going to fall for it 

When Jews say do it you better get to bombing

[Maximum Overkill 1,901]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Yeah i didn't even get into what Tulsi said which Trump basically said "She's lying."

Because the dunce was blowing the operations element of surprise. She didn't know that Trump and his Generals were working on a plan of attack.  

Do you not understand anything??

[Cdub100 3,885]

19 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The JCPOA is signed which severely restricted Iran's nuclear program. By all reports of the IAEA- Iran was within compliance on their end of the deal.

Trump pulls us out of the deal saying he could make a better one. He does not. We also get nothing under Biden.

A year after Trump pulls us out of the deal Iran starts reneging on the deal. 

Then Trump comes back into office and watches Israel (who again- has their own nuclear weapon programs and capabilities which is not reported on enough) bomb Iran and speaks out in favor of it (despite what RLLD believes) and then drops bunker bombs on Iran's nuclear stuff.

 

I was told you don't get credit for trying to fix a problem you created by posters here

Israel stole the technology from us. That also doesn't get talked about enough.

[The Real timschochet 6,605]

3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Israel stole the technology from us. That also doesn't get talked about enough.

You mean the technology that was created by Einstein, Oppenheimer, Teller, and other scientists? What do those gentlemen have in common, do you think? 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Israel stole the technology from us. That also doesn't get talked about enough.

I just want to be clear and on the record that if this is going to drift towards anti Semitism or anything like that I'm 100% out on that.

But outside of that- it has been reported by many that Israel has many nuclear warheads at the ready should they need them. But we ain't stopping them.

[The Real timschochet 6,605]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

Amazing how we discovered the imminent threat of Iranian nukes right after they were attacked by Israel.

Oy vey!  

“Oy vey” is a Yiddish term, from Eastern European Jews. It’s not really related to Israel, whose national language is Hebrew. Yiddish is pretty much a dead language except among Hasidic Jews in New York. When you relate it to actions connected to Israel you come close to anti-Semitic tropes. I’m not suggesting you’re anti-Semitic like @Cdub100 is; just figure you were unaware. 

[Cdub100 3,885]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You mean the technology that was created by Einstein, Oppenheimer, Teller, and other scientists? What do those gentlemen have in common, do you think? 

Thanks for proving my point Jews will steal and not feel bad about it. It's commanded by their religion.

Loyalty to Israel. 

[The Real timschochet 6,605]

3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Thanks for proving my point Jews will steal and not feel bad about it. It's commanded by their religion.

Loyalty to Israel. 

There’s something seriously wrong with you. 

[jerryskids 6,714]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

 

Who is calling for regime change?  If the Iranians do it, great, but we aren't going to do another Iraq or Afghanistan.

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Who is calling for regime change?  If the Iranians do it, great, but we aren't going to do another Iraq or Afghanistan.

Have a feeling Trump could be saying "Hold my Diet Coke" in 6 months

[Ron_Artest 1,319]

Iran closing straight of Hormuz.

Awesome job trump.

[MDC 7,279]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Who is calling for regime change?  If the Iranians do it, great, but we aren't going to do another Iraq or Afghanistan.

The guy who ordered the air strikes. Netanyahu. 

[HellToupee 1,701]

Saw this on twitter so I asked Grok myself 

Obama won a noble peace prize

Estimating the total number of bombs dropped by the U.S. military during Barack Obama's presidency (2009–2017) is challenging due to incomplete data, varying definitions of "bombs" (e.g., airstrikes vs. individual munitions), and the complexity of military operations across multiple countries. However, based on available sources, here’s a breakdown:

- 2016: The U.S. dropped 26,171 bombs across seven countries (Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan), with 24,287 in Iraq and Syria alone.
- 2015: Approximately 23,144 bombs were dropped, primarily in Iraq and Syria.
- 2009–2014: Data from 24/7 Wall St. provides yearly estimates for Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria:
  - 2009: 4,289 bombs
  - 2010: 5,109 bombs
  - 2011: 5,411 bombs
  - 2012: 4,083 bombs
  - 2013: 2,758 bombs
  - 2014: 8,657 bombs
  - These figures total 30,307 bombs for 2009–2014.

Summing these estimates:
- 2009–2014: 30,307
- 2015: 23,144
- 2016: 26,171
- Total (2009–2016): Approximately 79,622 bombs

For 2017, Obama was only president until January 20, so his contribution to that year’s total (43,938 bombs, mostly under Trump) is minimal and not precisely documented. Adding a proportional estimate for early 2017 doesn’t significantly alter the total.

Additional Context:
- The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports Obama authorized 563 drone strikes in Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen, killing 384–807 civilians, but these figures don’t specify total bombs.
- Figures may be underestimates, as the Pentagon counts multiple bombs in a single "strike."
- Posts on X claim over 100,000 bombs, but these lack verifiable sources and may exaggerate.

Final Estimate: The U.S. likely dropped around 80,000–100,000 bombs during Obama’s presidency, with the majority in Iraq and Syria. Precise numbers are uncertain due to incomplete reporting and varying definitions.

If you want a deeper dive into specific years or countries, let me know!

[jerryskids 6,714]

49 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The JCPOA is signed which severely restricted Iran's nuclear program. By all reports of the IAEA- Iran was within compliance on their end of the deal.

Trump pulls us out of the deal saying he could make a better one. He does not. We also get nothing under Biden.

A year after Trump pulls us out of the deal Iran starts reneging on the deal. 

Then Trump comes back into office and watches Israel (who again- has their own nuclear weapon programs and capabilities which is not reported on enough) bomb Iran and speaks out in favor of it (despite what RLLD believes) and then drops bunker bombs on Iran's nuclear stuff.

 

I was told you don't get credit for trying to fix a problem you created by posters here

The JCPOA is/was a joke.  What, Iran needed nuclear energy to free them from their reliance on the ocean of oil and natural gas they sit atop?  Cmon now.

But, bad on Trump for leaving it and not working on a better deal.  He clearly saw the mistake of that this time around.

Shame also on the Biden Politburo for not getting a new deal.

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

The JCPOA is/was a joke.  What, Iran needed nuclear energy to free them from their reliance on the ocean of oil and natural gas they sit atop?  Cmon now.

But, bad on Trump for leaving it and not working on a better deal.  He clearly saw the mistake of that this time around.

Shame also on the Biden Politburo for not getting a new deal.

And yet Iran was abiding by it through all the check ins

[jerryskids 6,714]

5 minutes ago, MDC said:

The guy who ordered the air strikes. Netanyahu. 

The Left:  Donald Trump is a narcissist who doesn't listen to anyone and does whatever he wants.

Also the Left:  Donald Trump does whatever Israel wants.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

The Left:  Donald Trump is a narcissist who doesn't listen to anyone and does whatever he wants.

Also the Left:  Donald Trump does whatever Israel wants.

Pretzel logic at its best!  

[MDC 7,279]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The Left:  Donald Trump is a narcissist who doesn't listen to anyone and does whatever he wants.

Also the Left:  Donald Trump does whatever Israel wants.

The Right: Trump is going to liberate us from foreign conflicts. Murica First!

Also the Right: Whatever Daddy Trump wants is fine by me!  

[jerryskids 6,714]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Pretzel logic at its best!  

It's fairly obvious that Trump went through all of the lawfare, assassination attempts, and campaigning to put in 20 hour days doing whatever Israel wants.  It's nuance, ESAC!  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

It's fairly obvious that Trump went through all of the lawfare, assassination attempts, and campaigning to put in 20 hour days doing whatever Israel wants.  It's nuance, ESAC!  

OF COURSE!!!   How did I not see that?  

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

It's fairly obvious that Trump went through all of the lawfare, assassination attempts, and campaigning to put in 20 hour days doing whatever Israel wants.  It's nuance, ESAC!  

You are giving credit to someone who just yells "glory hole" here all the time.

Also- yes people on the left here I see use pretzel logic sometimes..

Don't pretend people on the right here are not guilty of that as well.

[Gepetto 1,347]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We need to hope that Taco Trump is still a thing with regard to tariffs. The 90 day deadline is coming up and if Trump reverts to hos original plan it will bring us economic ruin. And he still needs to back off China. 

Taco Trump also needs to be a thing with regard to mass deportation- he needs to limit that to violent criminals. If he doesn’t it will have grave implications for our agriculture and service industries.Trump has acknowledged this so I’m hoping for the best (the best being Taco Trump, a tacit admission of his idiocy and incompetence.) 

So your policy is America last.

[The Real timschochet 6,605]

19 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

So your policy is America last.

My policy is American ideals first. 

[The Real timschochet 6,605]

39 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Iran closing straight of Hormuz.

Awesome job trump.

They haven’t done it yet, they’ve voted to do it but it’s up to the Supreme Commander (Khameini.) 

Hegseth says he’s confident they won’t because of China. But it’s what I was concerned about all along. Let’s hope Hegseth is right for once. 

[The Real timschochet 6,605]

Anyone ever read The Guns of August? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

They haven’t done it yet, they’ve voted to do it but it’s up to the Supreme Commander (Khameini.) 

Hegseth says he’s confident they won’t because of China. But it’s what I was concerned about all along. Let’s hope Hegseth is right for once. 

You drama queens need to grow a pair.  No one can EVER do anything because it might cause some pain.

[The Real timschochet 6,605]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You drama queens need to grow a pair.  No one can EVER do anything because it might cause some pain.

Closing the Strait of Hormuz isn’t “some pain”. It would be a terrible thing for us (but arguably worse for Iran so hopefully they won’t.) 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You drama queens need to grow a pair.  No one can EVER do anything because it might cause some pain.

Obviously we don't know what they will do but you do understand that if they close the Strait of Hormuz that is not some "some pain." That will cause very deep ripples into the world economy which will directly impact America.