TimHauck 2,868 Posted June 30 Also, Mamdani’s statement that he would arrest Netanyahu is not just because he’s trying to be some vigilante or something, it apparently is based on the fact that something called the “International Criminal Court” has issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu for war crimes, specifically for using starvation as a tactic and targeting civilians. The US is not currently a member, but Canada and many (maybe most) European countries are. https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-state-palestine-icc-pre-trial-chamber-i-rejects-state-israels-challenges Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,775 Posted June 30 From our good friend Tony Seruga and his wonderful treasure trove of mobile data. Not once has any of his data been refuted . Truly a great American GPS—puts Zohran Mamdani at Barack Hussein Obama II’s War Room twice in 6 weeks. Also present were leaders from the Muslim Brotherhood and what certainly appears to be two Iranian MOIS operatives, very likely IRGC Unit 840. Both are physically linked to Majid Dastjani Farahani, having meet Farahani in Venezuela in June 2024, with the timing, they very likely were discussing the ass@ssination of President Trump. These were the same operatives who were regularly is the company of fake federal agents with every agency from the Department of Homeland Security, to the U.S. Marshals, Arian Taherzadeh and Haider Ali. One was Pakistani intelligence while the other was Iranian. See the first comment below. It’s unfortunate most Americans do not fully understand just how evil Barack Hussein Obama II is. Obama is a terrorist. Obama’s War Room is located at 2446 Belmont Rd NW, Washington, DC 20008 and just a short 4 minute stroll away from the Islamic Center of Washington D.C. Do you really believe that was just a coincidence? SERIOUSLY? If there were any legit journalists they’d be reporting all of the comings and goings at Michelle’s War Room since Thursday? Anyone that doesn’t admit Barack is in charge is either ignorant or lying. I said previously, Barack Obama is the most powerful man in the Democratic Party. Period. End of story. He is a radical Islamic and the actual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,868 Posted June 30 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: From our good friend Tony Seruga and his wonderful treasure trove of mobile data. Not once has any of his data been refuted . Truly a great American GPS—puts Zohran Mamdani at Barack Hussein Obama II’s War Room twice in 6 weeks. Also present were leaders from the Muslim Brotherhood and what certainly appears to be two Iranian MOIS operatives, very likely IRGC Unit 840. Both are physically linked to Majid Dastjani Farahani, having meet Farahani in Venezuela in June 2024, with the timing, they very likely were discussing the ass@ssination of President Trump. These were the same operatives who were regularly is the company of fake federal agents with every agency from the Department of Homeland Security, to the U.S. Marshals, Arian Taherzadeh and Haider Ali. One was Pakistani intelligence while the other was Iranian. See the first comment below. It’s unfortunate most Americans do not fully understand just how evil Barack Hussein Obama II is. Obama is a terrorist. Obama’s War Room is located at 2446 Belmont Rd NW, Washington, DC 20008 and just a short 4 minute stroll away from the Islamic Center of Washington D.C. Do you really believe that was just a coincidence? SERIOUSLY? If there were any legit journalists they’d be reporting all of the comings and goings at Michelle’s War Room since Thursday? Anyone that doesn’t admit Barack is in charge is either ignorant or lying. I said previously, Barack Obama is the most powerful man in the Democratic Party. Period. End of story. He is a radical Islamic and the actual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. Seruga is a lying fraud. He doesn’t have that data. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,775 Posted June 30 “The end goal is seizing the means of production” lots of luck NYC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,868 Posted June 30 @HellToupee here is some insight on this “great American” Tony Seruga https://x.com/i/grok/share/dbI0Sk86GDtlDdEbT8bA2OhaS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,868 Posted June 30 Even the people within the MAGA world that actually have intelligence know Seruga is a fraud https://x.com/Shawn_Farash/status/1911617871869788486 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,775 Posted June 30 19 minutes ago, HellToupee said: It’s unfortunate most Americans do not fully understand just how evil Barack Hussein Obama II is. Obama is a terrorist. I post this and it doesn’t get a nibble but the opening line already was hooked with Great American Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,763 Posted June 30 4 hours ago, Voltaire said: Tim's entire post is sensible, after the first sentence, which had little-to-nothing to do with the broader point he was making and I gave him a 'like' for it. But yeah, the first sentence can be read as an endorsement of Mamdani's communism and is not the reason for the 'like'. And WTF is this driving force behind the bizarre intersectional Islamic/Marxist/Alphabet politicians like Mamdani, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, those British mayors, and the white liberals who love them? FTR: 1. Communism is a great evil, arguably the greatest evil, arguably worse than Nazism, certainly on a par with the worst that human society has ever produced. You don’t have to ever worry about me endorsing Communism. 2. Mamdani is not a Communist. He is a Democratic Socialist. He would never support a dictatorship. Think Sweden during most of the last 60 years, not Soviet Russia. Democratic Socialists have a lot of bad ideas IMO, I have already discussed some of these here.in general they put too much faith in the power of government to rectify societal problems, But they are not evil. And many of their ideas, particularly in non- economic areas, I share. That’s what I meant when I wrote that Mamdani seemed reasonable (and likeable as well.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,427 Posted June 30 3 Muslims sentenced to prison for cheating in 2021 election in Millbourne PA, part of the Philly metro area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,413 Posted June 30 The story has a happy ending though: the other Muslim running for mayor won. Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,198 Posted June 30 20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Mamdani is not a Communist. He is a Democratic Socialist. They don't understand the distinction no matter how many times it is explained and probably never will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 763 Posted June 30 Just now, squistion said: They don't understand the distinction no matter how many times it is explained and probably never will. I feel the same way when someone tries to discuss men and women with you. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101 Posted June 30 4 hours ago, TimHauck said: This is Islamaphobic Yeah, sure. The way you leftist ret@rds bastardize words and try to change the meaning of them is hilarious. Why don't you just say "You're X because I disagree with you"? Becacause that's what it really means now. That's what I got for you. Right there. Read it and learn. GFY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,868 Posted June 30 5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yeah, sure. The way you leftist ret@rds bastardize words and try to change the meaning of them is hilarious. Why don't you just say "You're X because I disagree with you"? Becacause that's what it really means now. That's what I got for you. Right there. Read it and learn. GFY. Your statement was not Islamaphobic because I disagree with it, it was Islamaphobic because 9/11 has zero to do with Mamdani. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,022 Posted June 30 23 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Your statement was not Islamaphobic because I disagree with it, it was Islamaphobic because 9/11 has zero to do with Mamdani. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,427 Posted June 30 Should a gay person be islamaphobic? Are they unreasonable for feeling threatened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,793 Posted June 30 4 hours ago, TimHauck said: I agree he’s not just defending speech. And I guess he has claimed to be anti-violence in general between Israel and Palestine, but to me “Globalize the Intifada” is basically like saying “From the river to the sea Palestine will be free.” I think it’s fair to say it’s calling for violence (war), but it’s only against Israel, not all Jews, so it‘s not antisemitic. For some reason people think the term “globalize” means they want to kill all Jews or something, but it just means they’re trying to get global support for the Palestinian’s fight against Israel. And no @jerryskids, I don’t support the Palestinians defeating Israel in a war. Bless your heart. 3 hours ago, TimHauck said: Also, Mamdani’s statement that he would arrest Netanyahu is not just because he’s trying to be some vigilante or something, it apparently is based on the fact that something called the “International Criminal Court” has issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu for war crimes, specifically for using starvation as a tactic and targeting civilians. The US is not currently a member, but Canada and many (maybe most) European countries are. https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-state-palestine-icc-pre-trial-chamber-i-rejects-state-israels-challenges Maybe the International Criminal Court has those videos of the IDF shooting civilians that you can't seem to find anywhere on the interwebs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted June 30 2 hours ago, HellToupee said: From our good friend Tony Seruga and his wonderful treasure trove of mobile data. Not once has any of his data been refuted . Truly a great American GPS—puts Zohran Mamdani at Barack Hussein Obama II’s War Room twice in 6 weeks. Also present were leaders from the Muslim Brotherhood and what certainly appears to be two Iranian MOIS operatives, very likely IRGC Unit 840. Both are physically linked to Majid Dastjani Farahani, having meet Farahani in Venezuela in June 2024, with the timing, they very likely were discussing the ass@ssination of President Trump. These were the same operatives who were regularly is the company of fake federal agents with every agency from the Department of Homeland Security, to the U.S. Marshals, Arian Taherzadeh and Haider Ali. One was Pakistani intelligence while the other was Iranian. See the first comment below. It’s unfortunate most Americans do not fully understand just how evil Barack Hussein Obama II is. Obama is a terrorist. Obama’s War Room is located at 2446 Belmont Rd NW, Washington, DC 20008 and just a short 4 minute stroll away from the Islamic Center of Washington D.C. Do you really believe that was just a coincidence? SERIOUSLY? If there were any legit journalists they’d be reporting all of the comings and goings at Michelle’s War Room since Thursday? Anyone that doesn’t admit Barack is in charge is either ignorant or lying. I said previously, Barack Obama is the most powerful man in the Democratic Party. Period. End of story. He is a radical Islamic and the actual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. I sudder to think what I may be only a short four minute stroll away from, and that someone might believe my location indicates a syndication with or approval of such persons, institutions, or organizations. I know there are sex offenders within that distance. At one time there was a home used for filming pornography before the neighbors shut that down. Also there was a meth house. There is a congregation house for the LDS, an apartment complex where who knows what occurs and a golf course for god's sake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,427 Posted June 30 Make this guy the face of the Democratic Party. I’ll sacrifice NYC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,539 Posted June 30 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Make this guy the face of the Democratic Party. I’ll sacrifice NYC I like NYC. And still have family there, not to mention @jerryskids' daughter, who is well over 18 years old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,427 Posted June 30 19 minutes ago, Strike said: I like NYC. And still have family there, not to mention @jerryskids' daughter, who is well over 18 years old. Yeah, I have a huge financial stake there. But people have to see that these rotten people can not be given the reigns of power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 398 Posted June 30 19 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: So Mamdami was on Meet the Press this morning, and seemed quite reasonable. But he ended on a sour note for me when he refused to condemn the phrase “global intifada.” His argument was that, while it was a phrase he doesn’t like, it’s not his job to condemn speech. This is disingenuous. I truly doubt that if Mamdami was confronted with a bigot using the “N” word he would have any trouble condemning it. And this is where leftists fall apart: all too many of them lack moral clarity. What is wrong with saying “Look, I am deeply sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, and strongly critical of Israel, but violence and intifada are not reasonable alternatives. I reject intifada, global or otherwise, and condemn it. I want peaceful just solutions.” ??? That seems easy enough, right? But this guy can’t say that, I guess for fear of upsetting somebody? And that’s sad. But don’t pretend this is about protecting speech. Because that’s bullsh!t. I think it's worse than that. I think it lacks moral clarity because I feel like he hates Jewish people so he has no morals. In your example, ask yourself if you'd give such benefit of the doubt to someone who wouldn't condemn someone for using the "N" word. I don't think you'd vote for someone like that or lay any cover fire for them. But at the end of the day, this guy is likely going to win. We are going to see what happens. But I believe much like Lori Lightfoot failing in Chicago brought about Brandon Johnson who has failed even worse, the left will only find another elite, capitalist (gasp), white person, wealthy person, oligarch, or someone to blame when this guy fails too. It's what happens as their society and city falls apart around them because the ideology doesn't work, it can only find another oppressor to blame. And usually that blame is shifted to the very system that has made Western Civilization so great that people want to escape other cultures and societies to move here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted June 30 Communism and socialism go hand in hand. Anyone who doesn’t know that, doesn’t know history. And spare me the Scandinavian nations nonsense. They aren’t socialist. the goal of socialism is communism. And has ALWAYS ended that way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,988 Posted June 30 9 hours ago, MDC said: The story has a happy ending though: the other Muslim running for mayor won. Link Why would that make you happy? Are you a Muslim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,763 Posted June 30 10 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Communism and socialism go hand in hand. Anyone who doesn’t know that, doesn’t know history. And spare me the Scandinavian nations nonsense. They aren’t socialist. the goal of socialism is communism. And has ALWAYS ended that way Every sentence here is wrong, and the opposite of the truth. I don’t think YOU know anything about history or you would have never written this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,763 Posted June 30 A primer: https://time.com/5422714/what-is-democratic-socialism/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,868 Posted June 30 42 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: I think it's worse than that. I think it lacks moral clarity because I feel like he hates Jewish people so he has no morals. What makes you think he hates Jewish people? To my knowledge he has only ever spoken out against Israel, and has specifically said he has no problem with Jewish people as a whole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,427 Posted July 1 2 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: You don’t understand the nuance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 282 Posted July 1 15 hours ago, TimHauck said: What makes you think he hates Jewish people? To my knowledge he has only ever spoken out against Israel, and has specifically said he has no problem with Jewish people as a whole Well, that kinda like people saying they like black people as a whole but just hate the culture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,427 Posted July 1 So this guy is not anti-semetic, but anyone that has a problem with Soros is? That’s some crafty work there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted July 1 17 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Every sentence here is wrong, and the opposite of the truth. I don’t think YOU know anything about history or you would have never written this. show me where socialist government hasnt turned to communism? that is a quote from Lenin, so no its not wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted July 1 17 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: A primer: https://time.com/5422714/what-is-democratic-socialism/ voting to take someone elses stuff doesn't make it democratic that being said we have democratic deportation, and you don't agree with that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,763 Posted July 1 39 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: show me where socialist government hasnt turned to communism? that is a quote from Lenin, so no its not wrong First off what would Lenin know about it? When he died in 2021, there had never been a socialist government in power other than Kerensky in 1917 and that was overthrown by Lenin. Here, off the top of my head, are a list of socialist governments that did NOT become Communist: Britain in 1924 under Ramsey McDonald Britain in 1945 under Clement Atlee West Germany in 1951 under Konrad Adenauer* Sweden in 1982 under Olaf Palme (* Adenauer was not a socialist, he was a “Christian Democrat”, but the government he ran was dominated by the German Social Democratic Party, the historical equivalent of today’s Democratic Socialists.) Thats an extremely incomplete list. Many people regard India’s first government in 1950 under Nehru as socialist. Two of the the first three prime ministers of Israel, David Ben-Gurion and Golda Meier, were also socialist (Labor Zionist). it’s also important to note, as a further refutation of your overall point, that many of these same people were strongly anti-Communist, and played significant roles in helping us win the Cold War. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,763 Posted July 1 44 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: voting to take someone elses stuff doesn't make it democratic that being said we have democratic deportation, and you don't agree with that 1. So taxation isn’t democratic? That’s a pretty extreme view. Even in a completely libertarian society there has to be a government to protect the rights of the individual no? Who pays for it if not through taxation (voting to take someone else’s stuff?) 2. I have no idea what you’re getting at here. What do my personal views on deportation, or for that matter any other issue, have to do with the key differences between Communism and Democratic Socialism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,427 Posted July 1 So this idiot wants to expand on public housing. Much like Tim and Gutterboy, he’s never been in the projects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,763 Posted July 1 Israel also provides an excellent example of a smaller communal society that is socialist but not communist; the kibbutz. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted July 1 11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: First off what would Lenin know about it? When he died in 2021, there had never been a socialist government in power other than Kerensky in 1917 and that was overthrown by Lenin. Here, off the top of my head, are a list of socialist governments that did NOT become Communist: Britain in 1924 under Ramsey McDonald Britain in 1945 under Clement Atlee West Germany in 1951 under Konrad Adenauer* Sweden in 1982 under Olaf Palme (* Adenauer was not a socialist, he was a “Christian Democrat”, but the government he ran was dominated by the German Social Democratic Party, the historical equivalent of today’s Democratic Socialists.) Thats an extremely incomplete list. Many people regard India’s first government in 1950 under Nehru as socialist. Two of the the first three prime ministers of Israel, David Ben-Gurion and Golda Meier, were also socialist (Labor Zionist). it’s also important to note, as a further refutation of your overall point, that many of these same people were strongly anti-Communist, and played significant roles in helping us win the Cold War. HTH. so all those countries are socialist? thats news to me, obviously those systems failed and still had voting in place to fix things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted July 1 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Israel also provides an excellent example of a smaller communal society that is socialist but not communist; the kibbutz. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz Israel isn't socialist ffs thats like saying my family is socialist. Socialism and communism can work in a small group, but you like to bring in too many foreign focks, it can never work in a society Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted July 1 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: 1. So taxation isn’t democratic? That’s a pretty extreme view. Even in a completely libertarian society there has to be a government to protect the rights of the individual no? Who pays for it if not through taxation (voting to take someone else’s stuff?) 2. I have no idea what you’re getting at here. What do my personal views on deportation, or for that matter any other issue, have to do with the key differences between Communism and Democratic Socialism? taxation is theft the only taxation that should be legal is on imports and non essential purchases taxing the same dollar 800 times is ghey 2) there is no difference between communism and "democratic" socialism, putting democratic in front of it doesn't make it any better. You should ABSOLUTELY never be able to vote to take away the fruits of my labor, I dont care if I am a billionaire and you are piss poor living on the street, do better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites