Ron_Artest 1,656 Posted 11 hours ago Or Alaska, whatever. Trump started by talking about "land swaps", to which zelensky said no way. Leaders from the EU have been calling trump telling him don't offer land swaps. Reporting that Trump is going to offer Putin rare earth minerals in Alaska now. The Kremlin has said there will be a joint news conference. Trump is old, weak, dumb and this is going into this meeting with no agreements or agenda. It's shaping up to be another Putin massacre. Everyone is on edge about what the hell trump is going to agree to. Trump is very vulnerable, and so are we. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,893 Posted 10 hours ago Did you toss and turn all night thinking about this craptastic thread you were going to start in the AM? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 559 Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: Or Alaska, whatever. Trump started by talking about "land swaps", to which zelensky said no way. Leaders from the EU have been calling trump telling him don't offer land swaps. Reporting that Trump is going to offer Putin rare earth minerals in Alaska now. The Kremlin has said there will be a joint news conference. Trump is old, weak, dumb and this is going into this meeting with no agreements or agenda. It's shaping up to be another Putin massacre. Everyone is on edge about what the hell trump is going to agree to. Trump is very vulnerable, and so are we. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,069 Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: Trump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,640 Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: Did you toss and turn all night thinking about this craptastic thread you were going to start in the AM? Dudes a poosay lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,656 Posted 8 hours ago The usual suspects don't wanna talk about this, just throw insults. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,893 Posted 8 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: The usual suspects don't wanna talk about this, just throw insults. What would you like to talk about? You already said some of this stuff in the other thread basically right before you went to bed. As soon as you wake up you are ready to type the same words. Not to mention the Ukraine thread is on page 1. But you are as spastic as they come. Up and at em ready to pound the keyboard daily. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,656 Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: What would you like to talk about? You already said some of this stuff in the other thread basically right before you went to bed. As soon as you wake up you are ready to type the same words. Not to mention the Ukraine thread is on page 1. But you are as spastic as they come. Up and at em ready to pound the keyboard daily. Do you have any thoughts on how the meeting is going to go or do you just want want to go for the personal attacks? There is a whole thread about gutterboy's cognitive decline where you can insult me all you like, why do it in every thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,893 Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Do you have any thoughts on how the meeting is going to go or do you just want want to go for the personal attacks? There is a whole thread about gutterboy's cognitive decline where you can insult me all you like, why do it in every thread? So your idea of discussion is guessing how a meeting will go? I dont know how it will go and neither do you. What is there to discuss? You didnt even ask a single question. You literally went to bed typing the same stuff you woke up making a thread about. 11 hours ago in the Trump thread. You actually posted some links there however. You got up and made a thread at 6am that basically reads "trump is dumb, trump is old, this meeting is going to be terrible". Then its everyone else's fault when they think the thread is stupid and have nothing to discuss? Lol you are broken. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,656 Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: So your idea of discussion is guessing how a meeting will go? I dont know how it will go and neither do you. What is there to discuss? You didnt even ask a single question. You literally went to bed typing the same stuff you woke up making a thread about. 11 hours ago in the Trump thread. You actually posted some links there however. You got up and made a thread at 6am that basically reads "trump is dumb, trump is old, this meeting is going to be terrible". Then its everyone else's fault when they think the thread is stupid and have nothing to discuss? Lol you are broken. Personal insults it is. Anyone else interested in this Putin Trump Meeting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,069 Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Anyone else interested in this Putin Trump Meeting? Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation did not find sufficient evidence that President Donald Trump’s campaign coordinated with Russia to influence the United States’ 2016 election and did not take a clear position on whether Trump obstructed justice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,182 Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Personal insults it is. Anyone else interested in this Putin Trump Meeting? Not from your point of view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,921 Posted 7 hours ago It’s always funny to listen to Democrats complain about how to handle Russia when they’ve literally taken over new land and we have to redraw world maps because they keep taking over land under their watch. Probably a subject you need to sit this one out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,069 Posted 7 hours ago Just now, cyclone24 said: It’s always funny to listen to Democrats complain about how to handle Russia when they’ve literally taken over new land and we have to redraw world maps because they keep taking over land under their watch. Probably a subject you need to sit this one out. Exactly, this was Biden's doing. @Ron_Artest @TimHauck Blame your hero Joe Briben Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,269 Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: It’s always funny to listen to Democrats complain about how to handle Russia when they’ve literally taken over new land and we have to redraw world maps because they keep taking over land under their watch. Probably a subject you need to sit this one out. Its not actually about Russia, its about political power here, and the drive to oppose Republicans no matter what.... no matter if thousands o Ukrainians have to die....no matter if women here have to be raped and murdered by illegal immigrats.....no matter if mentally ill males take opportunities away from women....no matter if inflation soars and disproportionately harms the lower strata..... all of those people can go fock themselves, power.....is all liberals care....and if getting power means trampling over others....so be it... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,281 Posted 4 hours ago Putin is going to bend him over. Ukraine needs to realize this can’t go on forever though. Would be nice to see them come out of this with something long term that guarantees their country but that won’t happen, they are focked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,794 Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Trump is old, weak, dumb and this is going into this meeting how many meetings did Biden have with Russia? Oh, that's right... the plan was just keep sending $$$ to Ukraine to prolong a losing war and increased loss of life. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blick 40 Posted 4 hours ago 33 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Putin is going to bend him over. Ukraine needs to realize this can’t go on forever though. Would be nice to see them come out of this with something long term that guarantees their country but that won’t happen, they are focked. The calculus on this hasn’t changed in a while. Unless NATO is willing to directly engage Russia, Ukraine can’t win. How much $$$ is NATO willing to spend to “weaken” Russia and punish aggression? How many lives is Ukraine willing to lose until they figure out they can’t win? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,656 Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: how many meetings did Biden have with Russia? Oh, that's right... the plan was just keep sending $$$ to Ukraine to prolong a losing war and increased loss of life. Biden met with Putin before the invasion. The logic is he's a war criminal so unless he's going to stop being a war criminal we shouldn't be nice to him and certainly not invite him to our country and offer him resources from our country. But I see you're repeating the Putin talking points about losing war and surrendering to save lives so I'm sure you won't understand my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,069 Posted 4 hours ago 31 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Putin is going to bend him over. Ukraine needs to realize this can’t go on forever though. Would be nice to see them come out of this with something long term that guarantees their country but that won’t happen, they are focked. Biden let this war happen, did you forget??? A Democrat is responsible for this war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,921 Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: What would you like to talk about? You already said some of this stuff in the other thread basically right before you went to bed. As soon as you wake up you are ready to type the same words. Not to mention the Ukraine thread is on page 1. But you are as spastic as they come. Up and at em ready to pound the keyboard daily. Look at the bright side. Pounding on a keyboard keeps him off the streets and away from endangering others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,269 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: Biden let this war happen, did you forget??? A Democrat is responsible for this war. I am not really sure Biden could have stopped it. Biden wasnt really running or doing much, that is rather clear now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,069 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, RLLD said: I am not really sure Biden could have stopped it. Biden wasnt really running or doing much, that is rather clear now. Jill was busy cleaning his soiled diapers while Joe was eating ice cream and sniffing little Girls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,281 Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Biden let this war happen, did you forget??? A Democrat is responsible for this war. Putin invaded. We did “let” anything happen. As you see now Trump is powerless to get him to stop as well. Putin ignores everything Don says and continues to drop bombs. He literally sends a bunch of drones within minutes of hanging up the phone with Don every time they speak. That leaves the situation with continue to give Ukraine weapons so they can blow up Russians, or give Putin the land. A success would be that Ukraine comes out of this with something, but don’t see that happening. They are screwed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,794 Posted 3 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Biden met with Putin before the invasion. The logic is he's a war criminal so unless he's going to stop being a war criminal we shouldn't be nice to him and certainly not invite him to our country and offer him resources from our country. But I see you're repeating the Putin talking points about losing war and surrendering to save lives so I'm sure you won't understand my point. In a perfect world, of course I agree that he is a war criminal and we shouldn't be nice to him or give him anything. Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world. War happens all the time. I don't know or care about Putin's talking points. Common sense tells me that unless the USA steps in with military force and thwarts Russia, the only way to end the war is (unfortunately) to help negotiate with some concessions. The Biden admin was unwilling to negotiate and also unwilling to do anything that might be seen as a declaration of war. In typical fashion, their best plan of action was to send aid to the little guy! send money and other donations! put signs on your lawn to show you support Ukraine! Let's make them into a key social issue for our campaign! ... at the end of the day we all know that only prolongs a conflict that Ukraine CANT WIN . do you disagree? Do you think Ukraine can win the war if we just keep funding them for a decade or so? Are you in favor of the US declaring war on Russia? What resolution are you actually hoping for? I distinctly remember the debate between Trump and Harris where the mods kept asking Trump if he wanted Ukraine to win the war. Trump kept saying he wanted the war to end, which of course was not good enough because they were trying to get a certain response out of him. I wish he would have said something to the effect of "the war ending IS a win for Ukraine". Speaking of war criminals, how did you feel about our handling of Viktor Bout? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,281 Posted 3 hours ago Last time these two had one of these led to me of the more embarrassing moments of Trump 1.0. He actually corrected himself (a rarity) after coming across like such a cucked fool on stage with Vlad. Hopefully this meeting goes much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,069 Posted 3 hours ago 21 minutes ago, thegeneral said: They are screwed. Yup. And we have golden opportunity here. The United States of Ukraine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,281 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: Yup. And we have golden opportunity here. The United States of Ukraine We should accept them into NATO and tell Putin to eat a dlck you get the land you stole and that’s it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,069 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: We should accept them into NATO and tell Putin to eat a dlck you get the land you stole and that’s it. Ukraine are corrupt dirt bags. They'll never be in NATO 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,656 Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: In a perfect world, of course I agree that he is a war criminal and we shouldn't be nice to him or give him anything. Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world. War happens all the time. I don't know or care about Putin's talking points. Common sense tells me that unless the USA steps in with military force and thwarts Russia, the only way to end the war is (unfortunately) to help negotiate with some concessions. The Biden admin was unwilling to negotiate and also unwilling to do anything that might be seen as a declaration of war. In typical fashion, their best plan of action was to send aid to the little guy! send money and other donations! put signs on your lawn to show you support Ukraine! Let's make them into a key social issue for our campaign! ... at the end of the day we all know that only prolongs a conflict that Ukraine CANT WIN . do you disagree? Do you think Ukraine can win the war if we just keep funding them for a decade or so? Are you in favor of the US declaring war on Russia? What resolution are you actually hoping for? I distinctly remember the debate between Trump and Harris where the mods kept asking Trump if he wanted Ukraine to win the war. Trump kept saying he wanted the war to end, which of course was not good enough because they were trying to get a certain response out of him. I wish he would have said something to the effect of "the war ending IS a win for Ukraine". Speaking of war criminals, how did you feel about our handling of Viktor Bout? I think Ukraine can survive, yes. I don't think they will ever surrender nor should we force them to surrender. I think we should continue to pressure Russia to withdraw through sanctions and providing defense. The resolution is Russia withdraws or at a minimum, stops fighting and keeps what they have while NATO protects Ukraine. Putin will never do that unless he is forced to. And no, the war ending with a surrender is not a win for Ukraine. I don't know anything about Viktor Bout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,281 Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Ukraine are corrupt dirt bags. They'll never be in NATO Roll em into the fold. Fock Russia and that murderous asshat. At the very least because he wants it. You can’t reward this behavior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,921 Posted 3 hours ago 23 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Last time these two had one of these led to me of the more embarrassing moments of Trump 1.0. He actually corrected himself (a rarity) after coming across like such a cucked fool on stage with Vlad. Hopefully this meeting goes much better. Hold on let me see, which is more embarrassing. Correcting yourself on something you said after the fact, or allowing a war thats kill hundreds of thousands of people that didn’t have to die? Costing OUR country billions, and the planet has to redo maps. Give me a little bit to think about which one’s worse. JFC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,794 Posted 3 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: I think Ukraine can survive, yes. I don't think they will ever surrender nor should we force them to surrender. I think we should continue to pressure Russia to withdraw through sanctions and providing defense. The resolution is Russia withdraws or at a minimum, stops fighting and keeps what they have while NATO protects Ukraine. Putin will never do that unless he is forced to. And no, the war ending with a surrender is not a win for Ukraine. I don't know anything about Viktor Bout. Viktor Bout is the war criminal "merchant of death" that we traded back to Russia for Brittany Griner. Quote Viktor Bout, the Russian arms dealer who was jailed in the United States and then swapped two years ago for the US basketball star Brittney Griner, has resumed trading weapons, according to the Wall Street Journal. Citing an unnamed European security source and other anonymous sources familiar with the matter, the newspaper reported on Sunday that Bout, dubbed “the merchant of death” was trying to broker the sale of small arms to Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthi armed group. Why are you now saying surrender? I never said anything about a surrender. Negotiation and possible concessions is not the same thing. What is your definition of them surviving? You think the current state of affairs is a positive thing for Ukrainians? You seem to want us to just continue to do what we have been doing, aka the Biden playbook, and it's going to magically end in a resolution where Ukraine wins 100%? that seems delusional at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,281 Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Hold on let me see, which is more embarrassing. Correcting yourself on something you said after the fact, or allowing a war thats kill hundreds of thousands of people that didn’t have to die? Costing OUR country billions, and the planet has to redo maps. Give me a little bit to think about which one’s worse. JFC He lied with his “correction” because his statement was so absurd. In a rare event he realized how stupid and submissive he sounded so he made a laughably stupid “correction”. Don didn’t misspeak when he said he believed Putin when he told Don he didn’t mess with our election. He believed Putin over our IC. We don’t know what Putin would have done if Biden had lost to Trump. It’s impossible to say, you know because it didn’t happen. How do you know? What we do know is that Putin does whatever he likes with Donald as prez when it comes to Ukraine so that makes me believe he would have done this regardless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,182 Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, thegeneral said: He lied with his “correction” because his statement was so absurd. In a rare event he realized how stupid and submissive he sounded so he made a laughably stupid “correction”. Don didn’t misspeak when he said he believed Putin when he told Don he didn’t mess with our election. He believed Putin over our IC. We don’t know what Putin would have done if Biden had lost to Trump. It’s impossible to say, you know because it didn’t happen. How do you know? What we do know is that Putin does whatever he likes with Donald as prez when it comes to Ukraine so that makes me believe he would have done this regardless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,926 Posted 2 hours ago Trump is prepared to give up the Sudetenland but is drawing a line at Prague. Oh wait… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,921 Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, thegeneral said: He lied with his “correction” because his statement was so absurd. In a rare event he realized how stupid and submissive he sounded so he made a laughably stupid “correction”. Don didn’t misspeak when he said he believed Putin when he told Don he didn’t mess with our election. He believed Putin over our IC. We don’t know what Putin would have done if Biden had lost to Trump. It’s impossible to say, you know because it didn’t happen. How do you know? What we do know is that Putin does whatever he likes with Donald as prez when it comes to Ukraine so that makes me believe he would have done this regardless. Here’s what I do know. This war will end under Trump‘s administration. It would not have under Joe’s and in fact, we would be spending billions of dollars and sending equipment to the front lines constantly. The Democratic strategy was basically fighting a proxy war that had no end point and had no problem starting under yet another democratic administration. none of those things you’ve listed are as embarrassing as allowing so many people to die, re-drawing maps, and spending the money we don’t have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,281 Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Here’s what I do know. This war will end under Trump‘s administration. It would not have under Joe’s and in fact, we would be spending billions of dollars and sending equipment to the front lines constantly. The Democratic strategy was basically fighting a proxy war that had no end point and had no problem starting under yet another democratic administration. none of those things you’ve listed are as embarrassing as allowing so many people to die, re-drawing maps, and spending the money we don’t have. Anyone could end the war if you end funding Ukraine and then give Putin everything. Not much to that strategy. As I said initially I hope this meeting goes better for Trump than in Helsinki. That was bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,281 Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Trump is prepared to give up the Sudetenland but is drawing a line at Prague. Oh wait… It’s an amazing chess game…Ukraine you are cut off, Vlad help yourself to everything you stole. Such bold leadership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites