Trump announces U.S. strikes another Venezuelan boat

[seafoam1 3,246]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Wheres the evidence?

This guy never even served a day in his life and wants to be included in military intel. 

[Voltaire 5,388]

4 hours ago, Fnord said:

That's what I'm talking about, too.

But now I have to fret over being on your ignore list and the disappointment and shame that accompany it.

I think your posts are well thought out and worth reading. 

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2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

This guy never even served a day in his life and wants to be included in military intel. 

The brass balls on these people 

[5-Points 3,691]

5 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Probable cause for 2.  Alright, here we go.  Still got a while before we get to ISIS levels.

And even then, they don't have anything against Americans.  They will kill anyone.

You guys already took us there when you started tearing down statues you didn't like in an attempt to erase history. 

[TimHauck 3,117]

I don’t think this is going to help get Trump the Nobel Peace Prize

[seafoam1 3,246]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t think this is going to help get Trump the Nobel Peace Prize

Who cares? He's doing everything right. That's all I care about. 

[5-Points 3,691]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t think this is going to help get Trump the Nobel Peace Prize

Meh. It's meaningless now. Like a pulitzer or being called racist. 

[Voltaire 5,388]

23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So…death penalty for all drug dealers?

Maybe so.

With the land routes closed, I've a feeling that shutting the sea routes as well is going to be a really, really effective way to keep drugs out. If that happens a lot of positive downstream side effects will start happening as well.

11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Either you support the military blowing up random boats on the Caribbean or you hate this country.

If that ever starts happening, you can count on me to join you in protest.

[Ron_Artest 1,854]

But some officials at the Defense Department privately expressed concern on Wednesday about the administration’s shifting narratives, including where the vessel was headed. Mr. Rubio had said on Tuesday that it was going to Trinidad, while Mr. Trump said the United States. On Wednesday, Mr. Rubio changed his version, saying the drug-laden boat was bound for the United States.

Pentagon officials were still working Wednesday on what legal authority they would tell the public was used to back up the extraordinary strike in international waters.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/03/us/politics/hegseth-venezuela-drug-strike.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jU8._oRS.QhFYZjRo5Mb1&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

[Ron_Artest 1,854]

You mean the proven liars might be lying?  You're kidding!

[Tree of Knowledge 2,027]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Wheres the evidence?

It got blown up.  Duh.  

[Voltaire 5,388]

Its another slick move from Trump, another trap for the Dems.

The Democrats now have to figure out if they want to play the 'These Drug Smugglers Are Victims' card or not at the same time that the supply of narcotics in the US will invariably go down and Trump claims credit for it.

Gutterboy is already doing so. Is he getting out ahead of his skis? We'll see what the rest of them do.

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2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

But some officials at the Defense Department privately expressed concern on Wednesday about the administration’s shifting narratives, including where the vessel was headed. Mr. Rubio had said on Tuesday that it was going to Trinidad, while Mr. Trump said the United States. On Wednesday, Mr. Rubio changed his version, saying the drug-laden boat was bound for the United States.

Pentagon officials were still working Wednesday on what legal authority they would tell the public was used to back up the extraordinary strike in international waters.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/03/us/politics/hegseth-venezuela-drug-strike.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jU8._oRS.QhFYZjRo5Mb1&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Yes! Keep this up! Love the energy! 

16 more years! 16 more years! 8 years of vance. Rubio at VP. Then rubio for president! 

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

12 hours ago, Fnord said:

Venezuela at ‘maximum preparedness’ with US warships in Caribbean: Maduro

Maduro ready to declare ‘republic in arms’ if US forces attack Venezuela

Maduro says Venezuela ready to respond to US military presence in the Caribbean

Maduro wouldn't last 30 seconds. If he was smart he'd shut the Fuk up. We could hit their oil production and destroy that entire country in the blink of an eye. 

Why are you always afraid? 

[Strike 5,837]

7 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

Yes! Keep this up! Love the energy! 

16 more years! 16 more years! 8 years of vance. Rubio at VP. Then rubio for president! 

And by then Barron will be old enough!!

[Ron_Artest 1,854]

Might as well just rename America to trump!

[TimHauck 3,117]

Clearly Trump is trying to start a war with Venezuela.  What’s the endgame here?  It’s not just about drugs or else we’d be trying to start wars against Mexico and other countries where drugs are coming from too.

Oil? Coffee?

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Clearly Trump is trying to start a war with Venezuela.  What’s the endgame here?  It’s not just about drugs or else we’d be trying to start wars against Mexico and other countries where drugs are coming from too.

Oil? Coffee?

Distraction from his shiit economy / approval rating and the Epstein times most likely. 

[Ron_Artest 1,854]

It's the authoritarian playbook.  Plus he is a deeply disturbed and senile old person.

Will be something else in a few weeks.

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Venezuela!

[TimHauck 3,117]

18 minutes ago, MDC said:

Distraction from his shiit economy / approval rating and the Epstein times most likely. 

I don’t think they are murdering people to distract from Epstein

[TimHauck 3,117]

And I can’t imagine blowing up small boats in international waters is going to help his approval rating among independents (it might not hurt, but it’s not going to help)

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8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t think they are murdering people to distract from Epstein

It wouldn’t surprise me with this admin.

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5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

And I can’t imagine blowing up small boats in international waters is going to help his approval rating among independents (it might not hurt, but it’s not going to help)

Well if he doesn't get that approval rating up he's never gonna win the next election.  Oh wait.  That won't happen anyways.  There isn't going to be an election!!!

[TimHauck 3,117]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Well if he doesn't get that approval rating up he's never gonna win the next election.  Oh wait.  That won't happen anyways.  There isn't going to be an election!!!

He obviously cares about his approval rating, whether or not he’s going to try to run again.

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20 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s only a problem when Trump does it. 

Obama has the record for most drone strikes.

[Horseman 2,683]

6 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Obama has the record for most drone strikes.

The question is did he kill more innocents than Biden?  

[MDC 7,652]

14 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Obama has the record for most drone strikes.

 In the first two years of the Trump administration, there were 2,243 drone strikes, compared with 1,878 in the eight years of the Obama administration, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

[Ron_Artest 1,854]

Are US strikes on alleged cartel members legal?

Experts have also questioned whether the killing of the alleged members of the Tren de Aragua cartel could contravene international law on the use of force.

Under Article 2(4) of the UN charter, countries can resort to force when under attack and deploying their military in self-defence. Trump has previously accused the Tren de Aragua cartel of conducting irregular warfare against the US, and the state department has designated the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organisation.

But Prof Michael Becker of Trinity College Dublin told BBC Verify that the US actions "stretches the meaning of the term beyond its breaking point".

"The fact that US officials describe the individuals killed by the US strike as narco-terrorists does not transform them into lawful military targets," he said. "The US is not engaged in an armed conflict with Venezuela or the Tren de Aragua criminal organization."

"Not only does the strike appear to have violated the prohibition on the use of force, it also runs afoul of the right to life under international human rights law."

Prof Moffett said that the use of force in this case could amount to an "extrajudicial arbitrary killing" and "a fundamental violation of human rights".

"Labelling everyone a terrorist does not make them a lawful target and enables states to side-step international law," he said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjzw3gplv7o

[jonnyutah 432]

The right to life has been violated!!! You guys got him now!

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Clearly Trump is trying to start a war with Venezuela.  What’s the endgame here?  It’s not just about drugs or else we’d be trying to start wars against Mexico and other countries where drugs are coming from too.

Oil? Coffee?

If it's to get the Nobel Peace Prize he is going about it wrong.

[seafoam1 3,246]

51 minutes ago, Horseman said:

The question is did he kill more innocents than Biden?  

If you add up the total of innocent lives killed by creepy joe and obama, that number can only be matched by the number of murders in liberal run cities per year. 

It's what they did best while in office. That and spread hatred in this country. 

[Horseman 2,683]

41 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Are US strikes on alleged cartel members legal?

Experts have also questioned whether the killing of the alleged members of the Tren de Aragua cartel could contravene international law on the use of force.

Under Article 2(4) of the UN charter, countries can resort to force when under attack and deploying their military in self-defence. Trump has previously accused the Tren de Aragua cartel of conducting irregular warfare against the US, and the state department has designated the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organisation.

But Prof Michael Becker of Trinity College Dublin told BBC Verify that the US actions "stretches the meaning of the term beyond its breaking point".

"The fact that US officials describe the individuals killed by the US strike as narco-terrorists does not transform them into lawful military targets," he said. "The US is not engaged in an armed conflict with Venezuela or the Tren de Aragua criminal organization."

"Not only does the strike appear to have violated the prohibition on the use of force, it also runs afoul of the right to life under international human rights law."

Prof Moffett said that the use of force in this case could amount to an "extrajudicial arbitrary killing" and "a fundamental violation of human rights".

"Labelling everyone a terrorist does not make them a lawful target and enables states to side-step international law," he said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjzw3gplv7o

Hey look, Tiny found an article with one professor at Trinity College whose opinion reinforces his take on things!   Wow!

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,703]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Hey look, Tiny found an article with one professor at Trinity College whose opinion reinforces his take on things!   Wow!

 

He’ll search the whole world over to find what he’s looking for.  Also, Irish people need to STFU right about now. Their country is being destroyed and is on the brink. 

[Fnord 2,372]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Are US strikes on alleged cartel members legal?

Experts have also questioned whether the killing of the alleged members of the Tren de Aragua cartel could contravene international law on the use of force.

Under Article 2(4) of the UN charter, countries can resort to force when under attack and deploying their military in self-defence. Trump has previously accused the Tren de Aragua cartel of conducting irregular warfare against the US, and the state department has designated the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organisation.

But Prof Michael Becker of Trinity College Dublin told BBC Verify that the US actions "stretches the meaning of the term beyond its breaking point".

"The fact that US officials describe the individuals killed by the US strike as narco-terrorists does not transform them into lawful military targets," he said. "The US is not engaged in an armed conflict with Venezuela or the Tren de Aragua criminal organization."

"Not only does the strike appear to have violated the prohibition on the use of force, it also runs afoul of the right to life under international human rights law."

Prof Moffett said that the use of force in this case could amount to an "extrajudicial arbitrary killing" and "a fundamental violation of human rights".

"Labelling everyone a terrorist does not make them a lawful target and enables states to side-step international law," he said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjzw3gplv7o

For Donald Trump, everything is an emergency

These actions are fascism and conspiracy theory 101.

• Create multiple states of emergency, invoking emergency powers over and over, often illegally.
• By the time the courts catch up to the illegalities and attempt to rectify them, the judicial system is already buried in the next wave of illegalities, all the while Trump is screaming about "judicial overreach" and undermining the DOJ.
• Remove a bunch of health protections, fast forward 18 months, and there's a public health emergency. 
• Demolish FEMA and wait for the natural disasters to occur, creating multiple emergencies.
• Insert NG troops into American cities in order to "reduce crime" (that's already being reduced), pick a fight, and wait for the eventual "incident" to occur, thereby creating another emergency.
• Foment conflict with other nations (Venezuela, Mexico) by illegally intruding on their sovereignty. Wait for the eventual "incident" and voila! Another emergency.
• Eventually, with the nation in such a meat grinder of overlapping "emergencies" desperate folks will be much more willing to accept drastic action like martial law, suspension of habeus corpus, and eventually, even elections.

In before "durr... TDS." To be clear, I am not claiming that all of the above is or will be occurring. But I have seen zero evidence that would lead me to firmly believe that it won't.

 

[seafoam1 3,246]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

For Donald Trump, everything is an emergency

These actions are fascism and conspiracy theory 101.

• Create multiple states of emergency, invoking emergency powers over and over, often illegally.
• By the time the courts catch up to the illegalities and attempt to rectify them, the judicial system is already buried in the next wave of illegalities, all the while Trump is screaming about "judicial overreach" and undermining the DOJ.
• Remove a bunch of health protections, fast forward 18 months, and there's a public health emergency. 
• Demolish FEMA and wait for the natural disasters to occur, creating multiple emergencies.
• Insert NG troops into American cities in order to "reduce crime" (that's already being reduced), pick a fight, and wait for the eventual "incident" to occur, thereby creating another emergency.
• Foment conflict with other nations (Venezuela, Mexico) by illegally intruding on their sovereignty. Wait for the eventual "incident" and voila! Another emergency.
• Eventually, with the nation in such a meat grinder of overlapping "emergencies" desperate folks will be much more willing to accept drastic action like martial law, suspension of habeus corpus, and eventually, even elections.

In before "durr... TDS." To be clear, I am not claiming that all of the above is or will be occurring. But I have seen zero evidence that would lead me to firmly believe that it won't.

 

The only dopes saying "durrr...." are you lowlife libtards. 

And you know it. 

Keep up with the TDS. Not that there is a cure for it even if you didn't want to. 

[Gepetto 1,415]

 

[Voltaire 5,388]

11 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

The right to life has been violated!!! You guys got him now!

Maybe Trump can get the liberals on board by talking about sinking drug smuggling ships as performing late term abortions.

[seafoam1 3,246]

Dang. Liberals are stupid..

[Hardcore troubadour 15,703]

So proud.  It’s good to not take shitt.