Charlie Kirk was just shot

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,422]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

He may be a leftist, we don’t know yet. He may be a far right extremist. 
 

But I’m 100% positive he is not a liberal. That’s a moderate ideology which does not allow for political violence of any kind. (Conservatives used to be the same, then unfortunately Donald Trump came along and changed that.) 

there are no liberals left, they are all far right now.  my beliefs to this day are completely aligned with Bill Clinton presidential era

 

[Gepetto 1,413]

This is the motive. 

Tyler Robinson was dating a transgender and living with them for a year and that person hated Christians and conservatives, and influenced Tyler Robinson's thinking. 

link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-assassins-transgender-roommate-hates-conservatives-christians-relative-says

The trans roommate of Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin "hates conservatives and Christians," one of his relatives told Fox News Digital in an interview.

The 22-year-old, who has not been charged and whose name has not yet been released by authorities, was in a romantic relationship with suspect Tyler Robinson, also 22, according to the relative. She said he is in the process of transitioning from male to female.

The woman, who asked to remain anonymous, told Fox News Digital her relative began to act differently when he turned 18 and said that he developed a hatred of Christians and conservatives.

"He hates conservatives and Christians," the relative said. "He hated us. He was not raised that way, but he, over the years, has become really detached [and] been radicalized."

"He has obviously gotten progressively worse the last year or two," the relative said, adding that he's "always very angry."

The relative suspects Robinson's politics were influenced by his partner in the year they have been dating.

"I think Tyler got a whole lot worse in the year they have been dating. They are big [video] gamers, and obviously they have that group that influences them as well as others. But my gut tells me [the roommate] did more of the influencing," the relative said.

[The Real timschochet 7,118]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

there are no liberals left, they are all far right now.  my beliefs to this day are completely aligned with Bill Clinton presidential era

 

Well I know this isn’t true. Your views on immigration, nationalism, isolationism, etc., are certainly not aligned with the Clinton presidency. 

[The Real timschochet 7,118]

Just now, Gepetto said:

This is the motive. 

Tyler Robinson was dating a transgender and living with them for a year and that person hated Christians and conservatives, and influenced Tyler Robinson's thinking. 

link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-assassins-transgender-roommate-hates-conservatives-christians-relative-says

The trans roommate of Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin "hates conservatives and Christians," one of his relatives told Fox News Digital in an interview.

The 22-year-old, who has not been charged and whose name has not yet been released by authorities, was in a romantic relationship with suspect Tyler Robinson, also 22, according to the relative. She said he is in the process of transitioning from male to female.

The woman, who asked to remain anonymous, told Fox News Digital her relative began to act differently when he turned 18 and said that he developed a hatred of Christians and conservatives.

"He hates conservatives and Christians," the relative said. "He hated us. He was not raised that way, but he, over the years, has become really detached [and] been radicalized."

"He has obviously gotten progressively worse the last year or two," the relative said, adding that he's "always very angry."

The relative suspects Robinson's politics were influenced by his partner in the year they have been dating.

"I think Tyler got a whole lot worse in the year they have been dating. They are big [video] gamers, and obviously they have that group that influences them as well as others. But my gut tells me [the roommate] did more of the influencing," the relative said.

Why do you keep posting this? “My gut tells me” is not reliable reporting, sorry. 

[MDC 7,650]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yep RFK jr is so crazy, especially compared to those covid morons you worshipped that held concerts in bubbles, closed beaches and lakes and filled in skate parks in the name of derp derp science

 

The response to a novel virus was imperfect in hindsight. Lets put a heroin addict in charge of HHS!

Great point.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,422]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Well I know this isn’t true. Your views on immigration, nationalism, isolationism, etc., are certainly not aligned with the Clinton presidency. 

clinton was anti illegal immigration, pro USA first.  my Isolationism comes from anti Intervention policies that Clinton was for, he didnt even escalate gulf wars when our ship was attacked

 

[SaintsInDome2006 481]

38 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

You're right, he does. He also operates on a different level than most people who use that excuse. It applies to most, but not all. Anyone who was hired with DEI, it applies to them just as much as it applies to me.

My view on DEI is pretty conservative. It changes traditional civil rights & affirmative action, which was about equality of treatment, to a drive for equity, which means parity of results, & I don’t agree with that. But it’s also conservative to say that if a company or agency thinks it’s good marketing & plain good for business let them be whoever they want to be in terms of how they present themselves to the public. If it’s good for business then do it. That doesn’t allow them to treat people unfairly or discriminate based on race or anything else.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,422]

Just now, MDC said:

The response to a novel virus was imperfect in hindsight. Lets put a heroin addict in charge of HHS!

Great point.  

it was horrible well before hindsight, I know we should totally have the tranny that was in charge the previous administration

 

[The Real timschochet 7,118]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

clinton was anti illegal immigration, pro USA first.  my Isolationism comes from anti Intervention policies that Clinton was for, he didnt even escalate gulf wars when our ship was attacked

 

Sorry, I’m afraid your memory may be faulty. Clinton extended NATO to Poland and the Baltic states and wanted to extend NATO to Ukraine. He wanted to give amnesty to almost all undocumented immigrants but couldn’t get it through Congress. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,700]

Hillary wanted an English speaking requirement.  lol. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,422]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sorry, I’m afraid your memory may be faulty. Clinton extended NATO to Poland and the Baltic states and wanted to extend NATO to Ukraine. He wanted to give amnesty to almost all undocumented immigrants but couldn’t get it through Congress. 

and yet he was not for open borders as the left is right now, Reagan gave amnesty and focked up the country, hes why I supported Clinton.  I also believe that everyone should be put on a path to citizenship but the border entirely closed, if you can prove you are contributing to society, paying taxes and learning english

 

[MDC 7,650]

6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

it was horrible well before hindsight, I know we should totally have the tranny that was in charge the previous administration

 

The tranny in the last administration wasn’t in charge. Rachel Levine was US assistant secretary of health. Levine was also a medical doctor and PA physician general before being appointed to that post.

RFKJ is a former heroin addict with no medical background at all.

HTH  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,422]

Just now, MDC said:

The tranny in the last administration wasn’t in charge. Rachel Levine was US assistant secretary of health. Levine was also a medical doctor and PA physician general before being appointed to that post.

RFKJ is a former heroin addict with no medical background at all.

HTH  

oh well cry more

elections have consequences

I think you mean Rick though

[MDC 7,650]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

oh well cry more

elections have consequences

I think you mean Rick though

Just pointing out that the FAA didn’t lower standards for pilots and an admin that appointed Crackhead Rob head of HHS has no business complaining about qualifications of anyone.

HTH!

[BrahmaBulls 849]

32 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Nope.  According to your logic, as long as they hire 1 black pilot, then there is no problem in hiring more.  That is false.

WTF are you talking about?  We all know you're retarded but I didn't say that.

So you claim DEI is needed but you also claim airlines have always hired qualified black pilots.  Those things don't make sense.  DEI is a total waste if black pilots are already qualified and being hired.

[jonnyutah 426]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't have any issue with the race of a pilot.  I'm just saying that I understand why people question it more now.  DEI has put that doubt into people's heads.  You use to be able to trust that the people hired were in their position because they were the best.  Not as much now.

Correct. 

This whole act to pretend that qualifications are always only on a pass fail basis is comical. 

Lets say you have a job that has 4 tests. Minimum score is 700 (minimum 150 for each test). If you have one candidate that had to try three times and finally passed by hitting 700. 

Then you have another candidate that passed first time and scored a 950.

DEI idiots- "whats the difference, they are both qualified?"

 

[naomi 360]

The power in the last part of what he says here actually makes me happy for him.

Bittersweet.

https://x.com/CHRISsW0RLD/status/1967206127894253663?t=VCjbmx33BXndBH9kgYSxuA&s=19

[nobody 2,774]

These debates about the politics of the shooter always remind of a scene in A Few Good Men when Caffrey is prepping his examination of the Medical Examiner with Lt. Weinberg.

Caffey: Doctor, was there any sign of injury? Scrapes? Cuts? Bruises? Broken bones?  Any sign of violence?
Weinberg (role playing the doctor): Other than the dead body?

You guys spend so much time worrying about Halloween costumes and voter registrations and ignore that he killed a dude who's whole being revolved around being some right wing influencer. 

Way to make a simple problem hard, fellas.

[Sean Mooney 2,014]

29 minutes ago, MDC said:

Just pointing out that the FAA didn’t lower standards for pilots and an admin that appointed Crackhead Rob head of HHS has no business complaining about qualifications of anyone.

HTH!

Raiders wanted to bounce out of the conversation quickly after he got proven wrong. 

[nobody 2,774]

3 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok per Gov. Cox, he lived with his parents.

The apartment was a suite of 3-4 people.

And even *if he was a fur-wearing gay guy with a special transitioning fella he could *still be conservative & maga supporting. Oh yes. Look at the embrace of Bruce Jenner.

Is Jenner maga? Check.

Is Jenner Republican? Yup.

Is Jenner living with a boygirl? Yeppers.

Does Jenner love Trump & Trump love Jenner? You betcha.

The whole premise is fallacious.

 

3 hours ago, squistion said:

And since when can't one be both gay and conservative?

Ever hear of The Log Cabin Republicans? They are a Republican LGBTQ group who not only supported Trump in 2024, but they held a fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago, raising over $1 million according to organizers, with Melania Trump as the guest of honor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans#2024_presidential_election

Now they're admitting he was banging the tranny I guess (finally), and are now trying to say shacking up with a tranny is more of a republican trait.  

Republicans mostly get down with trannies in secret, my brothers.

It's like we never heard of Bayes Theorem in this mofo.

[SaintsInDome2006 481]

11 minutes ago, nobody said:

 

Now they're admitting he was banging the tranny I guess (finally), and are now trying to say shacking up with a tranny is more of a republican trait. 

Republicans mostly get down with trannies in secret, my brothers.

It's like we never heard of Bayes Theorem in this mofo.

Eh hardly. I got to catch some Bongino & Patel this am, neither came close to anything like that.

Ok I guess this is is more poor reasoning. Kirk was to the left of you, he was pretty much about freak flags flying high. That certainly didn’t annoy the *left.

[nobody 2,774]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Add in the fact that you will never be able to defend yourself against the US Military these days.  Another flawed defense of dead kids.

It's not the military you need the gun for.  It's for when the lefty politicians let the mob loose on your neighborhood and sit back and watch. 

The left weaponized rioting.  It ain't right to let them ruin business owners' lives without giving those businesses the ability to protect their property.  You know since the city and state governments refuse to do it.

[nobody 2,774]

2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Eh hardly. I got to catch some Bongino & Patel this am, neither came close to anything like that.

Ok I guess this is is more poor reasoning. Kirk was to the left of you, he was pretty much about freak flags flying high. That certainly didn’t annoy the *left.

I'm not sure what you're saying. 

Patel is the FBI guy right?  Who the fock is this Bongino person?  And when you say "anything like that" what is "that" referring to?  The shooter banging a tranny?  You want the FBI to delve into his sex life or something?

And I'm not sure what you're talking about with Kirk.  He was to the left of me?  Or are you talking about the general you?  And I don't know much about Kirk, but my perception is he didn't like the LGBTQs.  Or is this sarcasm?  

[SaintsInDome2006 481]

6 minutes ago, nobody said:

I'm not sure what you're saying. 

Patel is the FBI guy right?  Who the fock is this Bongino person?  And when you say "anything like that" what is "that" referring to?  The shooter banging a tranny?  You want the FBI to delve into his sex life or something?

And I'm not sure what you're talking about with Kirk.  He was to the left of me?  Or are you talking about the general you?  And I don't know much about Kirk, but my perception is he didn't like the LGBTQs.  Or is this sarcasm?  

Dan Bongino is Dep. Director FBI, also like Kirk a podcaster. - Yes considering the gay thing is being described as a motive yes they’d have to delve into exactly that.

Kirk was very much in favor of young gay conservative men openly joining the party. He made no qualms about it even while he was constantly extolling the benefits of traditional marriage. 

[nobody 2,774]

2 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Liberals generally have no idea how effective a victim mindset is for killing the potential of someone.

By teaching blacks they need extra assistance, they stunt their growth. Most successful black people see this trap and they point it out.

Who do liberals tend to listen to? The successful black people talking about how they transcended their origins? Or the poor black person who can't get out of his own way.

Preach.

Conservatives: Minorities have the ability and skills to achieve success without handouts.

Liberals: THAT'S RACISS@!!@#

[nobody 2,774]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Kirk was very much in favor of young gay conservative men openly joining the party. He made no qualms about it even while he was constantly extolling the benefits of traditional marriage. 

Wait.  Then why are all the wokies saying he hated gays?

[SaintsInDome2006 481]

Just now, nobody said:

Wait.  Then why are all the wokies saying he hated gays?

Because people in the left & right didn’t pay much attention to Kirk until this happened. Most Americans had no clue who he was, it’s someone political junkies knew.

[nobody 2,774]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

The response to a novel virus was imperfect in hindsight. Lets put a heroin addict in charge of HHS!

Great point.  

Can't be any worse than the trillion dollar covid mistake.  Our covid response was literally one of the costliest mistakes in human history, and people with common sense were shouted down in real time for opposing it.  You guys really shouldn't have a say anymore.  In every other walk of life, if someone focked up that bad, they'd get fired.  We seem to accept, "Shrug.  We tried our best" like that's acceptable.

[Mark Davis 415]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

He may be a leftist, we don’t know yet. He may be a far right extremist. 
 

But I’m 100% positive he is not a liberal. That’s a moderate ideology which does not allow for political violence of any kind. (Conservatives used to be the same, then unfortunately Donald Trump came along and changed that.) 

You shouldn’t blame all conservative ideology for the death of people like the MN lawmaker but give a pass to the liberal one on the Kirk assassination.  You are placing blame as you see it for your disagreement over Trump at the feet of all conservatives but wanting to disavow any responsibility for the radicals on the left from your ideology. It’s got to be one or the other and my belief is you can’t paint everyone with a broad brush. There are things I disagree with Trump on but by and large I do support his policies. 
 

I don’t know of anyone who celebrated the murder in MN but unfortunately I have seen a long time friend celebrate Kirk’s on my social media. It’s not an indictment of all, and I honestly think speaking on the day of his murder about disagreeing with Kirk was in poor taste. But there’s a huge difference in doing that and celebrating the murder. We’ve seen no shortage of that unfortunately. 

[nobody 2,774]

7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Because people in the left & right didn’t pay much attention to Kirk until this happened. Most Americans had no clue who he was, it’s someone political junkies knew.

So wouldn't it stand to reason this shooter was like most Americans and thought he hated gays too?  I mean the bullets had writing calling him facist and all.  I mean I can't go to twitter over the last week and not see people saying Kirk hated gays and deserved to get a bullet to the jugular.

[jonnyutah 426]

35 minutes ago, nobody said:

 

Now they're admitting he was banging the tranny I guess (finally), and are now trying to say shacking up with a tranny is more of a republican trait.  

Republicans mostly get down with trannies in secret, my brothers.

It's like we never heard of Bayes Theorem in this mofo.

"How it Works

Step 1: Start with a Prior"

Looks like most people are stuck at step 1. 

[HellToupee 2,003]

3 hours ago, squistion said:

The LGBTQ community is diverse and guys into leather represent 

Guys into leather   …… you’re going to have to flesh this out

[Ron_Artest 1,852]

1 hour ago, BrahmaBulls said:

WTF are you talking about?  We all know you're retarded but I didn't say that.

So you claim DEI is needed but you also claim airlines have always hired qualified black pilots.  Those things don't make sense.  DEI is a total waste if black pilots are already qualified and being hired.

I never made the claim if it was "needed" or not.  United has decided that they want more diverse pilots.  They have decided they want to increase the percentage.  In order to do that they have decided that they want to create opportunities for black pilots by funding various programs.  So for United it's not a total waste, it's an investment for them to reach their goals.

So question is who are you to say United shouldn't do this?  And who are you to say they are lowering their standards and hiring black pilots that you can't trust?

[patweisers44 861]

11 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Because people in the left & right didn’t pay much attention to Kirk until this happened. Most Americans had no clue who he was, it’s someone political junkies knew.

I would disagree with this statement. South Park lampooned him about a month ago, not sure they would do that with someone most Americans didnt know.  If your point is how much people know about him in depth, you could make that argument.

[BrahmaBulls 849]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

I never made the claim if it was "needed" or not.  United has decided that they want more diverse pilots.  They have decided they want to increase the percentage.  In order to do that they have decided that they want to create opportunities for black pilots by funding various programs.  So for United it's not a total waste, it's an investment for them to reach their goals.

So question is who are you to say United shouldn't do this?  And who are you to say they are lowering their standards and hiring black pilots that you can't trust?

I didn't say any of that dumb ass.  Thanks for admitting that United is hiring based on skin color not qualifications.  

[seafoam1 3,244]

2 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

I didn't say any of that dumb ass.  Thanks for admitting that United is hiring based on skin color not qualifications.  

It's funny how liberals admit to their own idiocy without knowing they are doing it. 

[Ron_Artest 1,852]

31 minutes ago, nobody said:

It's not the military you need the gun for.  It's for when the lefty politicians let the mob loose on your neighborhood and sit back and watch. 

The left weaponized rioting.  It ain't right to let them ruin business owners' lives without giving those businesses the ability to protect their property.  You know since the city and state governments refuse to do it.

That's not what the founders had in mind dummy

[Ron_Artest 1,852]

7 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

I didn't say any of that dumb ass.  Thanks for admitting that United is hiring based on skin color not qualifications.  

You're not a serious poster.

[nobody 2,774]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

That's not what the founders had in mind dummy

So

I'd actually argue it is though.  

[MDC 7,650]

15 minutes ago, nobody said:

Can't be any worse than the trillion dollar covid mistake.  Our covid response was literally one of the costliest mistakes in human history, and people with common sense were shouted down in real time for opposing it.  You guys really shouldn't have a say anymore.  In every other walk of life, if someone focked up that bad, they'd get fired.  We seem to accept, "Shrug.  We tried our best" like that's acceptable.

Our Covid mistake spanned 2 admins and his years in the rear view. It also has nothing to do with DEI pilots or Crackhead Rob.