Charlie Kirk was just shot

[KSB2424 3,152]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think

That’s the problem.  Maybe stop doing that and start reading and listening.  

[Frozenbeernuts 2,292]

Wow. There are so many angles with AI videos. Weird movements.

I'm about to ignore everything that has nothing to do with me. Because there is so much fake. There are going to be some people going nuts trying to figure this stuff out.

[thegeneral 3,395]

What is the alternative to the CRA. How would these libertarian types like to have seen this happen?

[Ron_Artest 1,856]

When he said that a black woman doesn't have the same brain processing power as a white, tells you all you need to know.  Anyone wanna context that one for me?

[Ron_Artest 1,856]

Just now, thegeneral said:

What is the alternative to the CRA. Who would these libertarian types like to have seen this happen?

White power

[The Real timschochet 7,119]

4 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

That’s the problem.  Maybe stop doing that and start reading and listening.  

Just now you complained that some people here are devoid of reason and morality. Do you think my posts reflect that? Please explain. 

[KSB2424 3,152]

6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

When he said that a black woman doesn't have the same brain processing power as a white, tells you all you need to know.  Anyone wanna context that one for me?

Why don’t you find that full video and post it so we can all watch it? 
 
I will hang up and listen.  The full video. 

[The Real timschochet 7,119]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

What is the alternative to the CRA. Who would these libertarian types like to have seen this happen?

The argument goes that private businesses or individuals should be free to what they like, including discriminate. If a business openly discriminates then the public will punish that business by refusing to purchase its product. Thus the marketplace if left alone produces a better result than if people are forced to behave well. People resent being forced to do anything and it results in backlash against the minorities we are trying to help. 
 

Again I don’t agree with this argument, but it’s legitimate. 

[seafoam1 3,247]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The argument goes that private businesses or individuals should be free to what they like, including discriminate. If a business openly discriminates then the public will punish that business by refusing to purchase its product. Thus the marketplace if left alone produces a better result than if people are forced to behave well. People resent being forced to do anything and it results in backlash against the minorities we are trying to help. 
 

Again I don’t agree with this argument, but it’s legitimate. 

[thegeneral 3,395]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

The argument goes that private businesses or individuals should be free to what they like, including discriminate. If a business openly discriminates then the public will punish that business by refusing to purchase its product. Thus the marketplace if left alone produces a better result than if people are forced to behave well. People resent being forced to do anything and it results in backlash against the minorities we are trying to help. 
 

Again I don’t agree with this argument, but it’s legitimate. 

What fairy tale planet did this person live on

[The Real timschochet 7,119]

Just now, thegeneral said:

What fairy tale planet did this person live on

Galt’s Gulch. 

[thegeneral 3,395]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Galt’s Gulch. 

Exactly. Fairytaleville.

 

[seafoam1 3,247]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

What fairy tale planet did this person live on

 

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Galt’s Gulch. 

 

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Exactly. Fairytaleville.

 

Can you get any gayer? 

[thegeneral 3,395]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

 

 

Can you get any gayer? 

Someone is curious

[BrahmaBulls 851]

31 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

When he said that a black woman doesn't have the same brain processing power as a white, tells you all you need to know.  Anyone wanna context that one for me?

Poor kids are just as bright as white kids.  You voted for the guy that said that one.

[jonnyutah 434]

54 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

When he said that a black woman doesn't have the same brain processing power as a white, tells you all you need to know.  Anyone wanna context that one for me?

Lol. 

Did you feel anything when your integrity left your body? 

[jonnyutah 434]

Narrator: Ron artest is lying to you.

[Ron_Artest 1,856]

25 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Lol. 

Did you feel anything when your integrity left your body? 

 

[jonnyutah 434]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

Those four specific women that admitted to being DEI products are definitely smarter than you. 

[jonnyutah 434]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

Also you didnt answer the question. So now that you have doubled down on lying, can you answer it please?

[HellToupee 2,005]

Andy Ngo is an outstanding journalist . 
 

 

[BirdGang 401]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

When he said that a black woman doesn't have the same brain processing power as a white, tells you all you need to know.  Anyone wanna context that one for me?

More lies, you are a sad soul. You need to be on a watch list with the rest of your cesspool buddies. 

[TimHauck 3,121]

Some comments from others in the discord chat after the shooting:

 

Prior to Robinson's message, members of the chat posted their reactions upon the news of Kirk being shot at Utah Valley University's campus. 

“Charlie Kirk got shot,” one friend wrote Wednesday afternoon. 

“I just saw the video holy s---,” another user wrote about an hour and a half later. “Bro didn’t deserve to go out like that sad.”

Robinson was silent. His only activity in the chat following Kirk's assassination was when he confessed that he was responsible for it. 

When Robinson confessed in the Discord, no one responded until the next day when a friend asked the group to "pray for Tyler and his repentance." He then asked for prayers for Kirk. 

“While Charlie Kirk’s politics were not acceptable to some I ask that we all say a prayer for him and his family during these confusing times,” the friend wrote. 

https://wjactv.com/news/nation-world/tyler-robinsons-shocking-discord-admission-it-was-me-at-uvu-yesterday

 

Doesn’t really sound like a group of far left violent transtifa activists to me.

 

[iam90sbaby 2,699]

8 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

He ain’t wrong! Joggers be dumb.

[TimHauck 3,121]

“Pray for ___ and his repentance” definitely isn’t something I’d expect to hear from many leftists

Of course one possibility is it was just a gamer chat with people of varying politics 

[SaintsInDome2006 488]

11 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I never questioned that he said it multiple times.  In this one, he corrected the kid that he didn't say it should be overturned, he said it was a mistake.  Kid says that's crazy.  Charlie challenges him to try to figure it out.  Kid is well spoken, well dressed, Charlie is pushing his mind to think.

…

ETA:  My first paragraph is a great example of why the Left hated him.  He treated that kid like an intelligent young man who could grow to have complex liberal philosophical discussions.  The Left doesn't want that for black kids.  The Left wants them to hear happy things as they grow into the next generation of subservient voting block.

I posted it but it’s not a great exchange. The kid’s name is Knowa De Baraso, he’s a podcaster, obviously mature beyond his years. On the one hand it’s ambushing Kirk in the middle of some event or public place, on the other you’ve got Kirk giving a dismissive ’go figure it out it’ in response, which didn’t answer the question. De Baraso appears to be doing quite well & appears to have a bright future, so the stuff you mentioned doesn’t hold water in that instance. Also, De Baraso’s retort that he wouldn’t be there without the 64 CRA (educated, with a career) is succinct & arguably correct. We don’t know his background but obviously he does.

I’ll get to your other points in a bit.

[SaintsInDome2006 488]

12 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I don't know if any of your Leftist sites mention it

Some notes on sourcing:

- As I posted above Media Matters has a transcript, Rumble does not.

- For some reason (?) Kirk’s TPUSA site does not post a link to this show (& FAIK none of his events, I don’t know).

Again for some reason TPUSA will not release the video or transcript of this event. 

- Again, on sourcing. Kirk has his own channel on Rumble, that’s what you posted from. Rumble is itself host to many extreme right hosts, writers & content creators. For instance, Nick Fuentes is on that site as is Laura Loomer.

[HellToupee 2,005]

Armed Queers of SLC are under investigation. 

Ermiya Fanaeian is a Palestinian/trans “immigrant “

“Their leader, Ermiya Fanaeian, was recognized by a State Dept–affiliated NGO, Utah Global Diplomacy, as a recipient of the "7 for 17" Award for advancing the UN's 17 Goals “

SLC Armed Queers is not "adjacent" to the honor that Ermiya Fanaeian got from Utah Global Diplomacy. 

Utah Global Diplomacy specifically awarded her for her work with trans people, of which SLC Armed Queers is key. 

This may be why they scrubbed their pages.“

She specifically works to arm queer and trans communities for "communal militant defense."

[SaintsInDome2006 488]

12 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Kirk thought the CRA created a DEI monster that was anti-Constitutional in its suppression of free speech and in creating an anti-white bureaucracy.

Unless you think he meant that coloreds shouldn't go to the same school as whites, like Gutter seems to since he included it in his mindless cut and paste.  In which case I'm done with the discussion.

About the content of what Kirk said. 

- You’ve agreed (TIA) that Kirk did say this: 

“I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I've thought about it. We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.“

Kirk himself says his position is “very, very radical.” Thats not liberals or the mad left, Thats Kirk.

This is the discussion from Rumble:

>>CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): The Civil Rights Act, though, let's be clear, created a beast, and that beast has now turned into an anti-white weapon.

JEREMY CARL (GUEST): Yeah. And that -- and that's -- and that's the reality, and so we just need to fundamentally relook at a lot of our civil rights legal regime. And without that, even though I don't think it's, sort of, the magic bullet -- but I think without that, there's limits to the amount of progress we're gonna make.<<

>>KIRK: Well and I wanna … but if you have unapologetic, ferocious anti-white racism, then young whites are gonna find some very radical political positions.<<

I’ve clipped out the parts about the big bad media so we can focus on the context. Have I missed anything substantive as to the CRA here? Please let me know.

Kirk did not call for repeal of the CRA, but he framed it as “anti-white”.

But the guest calls for a fundamental reexamination - & I take it retooling - of the legal regime, & suggests that’d be impossible without repeal. He may be right about that. He also says there’s no “magic bullet” - IMO that meant there was *no way they were going to be able to repeal the CRA. Kirk switched to discussing the media, to me suggesting they stood in the way, but he might feel differently now. That speech he gave was in December 2023. A lot of alarming things have happened since then. If their leader instructed the GOP to repeal the CRA I think the Congress would do it. There’s nothing in Kirk’s commentary - it’s a beast, it’s anti-white, it’s ferocious, it’s a ***weapon - to indicate he would support keeping it. Honestly I don’t know why anyone who agrees with him would.

Also, if Kirk described himself as “very, very radical” then what were the “very radical positions” that Kirk expressed concern about?

That’s the context.

 

 

[Ron_Artest 1,856]

I've never met a white person that claimed to be the victim of racism.

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

I've never met a white person that claimed to be the victim of racism.

You obviously haven't spent much time around the opposite race. You don't live anywhere near them 

[HellToupee 2,005]

uh oh if this is true….
 

BREAKING: Senator Chuck Grassley just announced that a FBI whistleblower revealed to him an FBI project called "Artic Frost" that targeted groups like Charlie Kirks TPUSA! 

This is a BOMBSHELL!

He says that they are releasing those documents TODAY!

"In total, 92 Republican targets, including Republican groups and Republican linked individuals were placed under investigative scope of Arctic Frost."

"On that political list was one of Charlie Kirk‘s groups, turning point usa. In other words, arctic frost wasn‘t just a case to politically investigate Trump."

"It was the vehicle by which partisan FBI agents and Department of Justice prosecutors could achieve their partisan ends and improperly investigate the entire Republican political apparatus."

"So, today Senator Johnson and I are making these records public for the entire country to see. I hope a lot of people are interested in seeing what government can do when various agencies have a political agenda."

[SaintsInDome2006 488]

It sounds like the Fed’s are backing off charges. The state of Utah will proceed by itself thankfully. Hopefully it stays that way.

[Sean Mooney 2,015]

6 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

uh oh if this is true….
 

BREAKING: Senator Chuck Grassley just announced that a FBI whistleblower revealed to him an FBI project called "Artic Frost" that targeted groups like Charlie Kirks TPUSA! 

This is a BOMBSHELL!

He says that they are releasing those documents TODAY!

"In total, 92 Republican targets, including Republican groups and Republican linked individuals were placed under investigative scope of Arctic Frost."

"On that political list was one of Charlie Kirk‘s groups, turning point usa. In other words, arctic frost wasn‘t just a case to politically investigate Trump."

"It was the vehicle by which partisan FBI agents and Department of Justice prosecutors could achieve their partisan ends and improperly investigate the entire Republican political apparatus."

"So, today Senator Johnson and I are making these records public for the entire country to see. I hope a lot of people are interested in seeing what government can do when various agencies have a political agenda."

He has been at this for months with no evidence. Now that Kirk was killed he is just attaching that name to it to create interest again. It's almost assuredly a nothingburger yet again from him. 

 

but it works in the news because he threw that organization name in there and people are clicking it

[SaintsInDome2006 488]

Comer: “Wait!”

[SaintsInDome2006 488]

22 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

On that political list was one of Charlie Kirk‘s groups, turning point usa. In other words, arctic frost wasn‘t just a case to politically investigate Trump."

Catherine Herridge - currently unemployed - has the docs. Apparently this is about the efforts to overturn the 2020 election. It’s a wide range of issues though, including financial fraud. There are whole public reports & legal filings on this stuff.

[jonnyutah 434]

4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Some comments from others in the discord chat after the shooting:

 

Prior to Robinson's message, members of the chat posted their reactions upon the news of Kirk being shot at Utah Valley University's campus. 

“Charlie Kirk got shot,” one friend wrote Wednesday afternoon. 

“I just saw the video holy s---,” another user wrote about an hour and a half later. “Bro didn’t deserve to go out like that sad.”

Robinson was silent. His only activity in the chat following Kirk's assassination was when he confessed that he was responsible for it. 

When Robinson confessed in the Discord, no one responded until the next day when a friend asked the group to "pray for Tyler and his repentance." He then asked for prayers for Kirk. 

“While Charlie Kirk’s politics were not acceptable to some I ask that we all say a prayer for him and his family during these confusing times,” the friend wrote. 

https://wjactv.com/news/nation-world/tyler-robinsons-shocking-discord-admission-it-was-me-at-uvu-yesterday

 

Doesn’t really sound like a group of far left violent transtifa activists to me.

 

Solid commentary.

Definitely groyper proof right there. 

[TheNewGirl 1,576]

What's up with all of these "protests" and vandals at the vigils? 

People can't take a day off of protesting and let others mourn and do their thing? 

IMO, there's a time and a place for a protest, or whatever....a candlelight vigil is NOT one of them. 

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

Just now, TheNewGirl said:

What's up with all of these "protests" and vandals at the vigils? 

People can't take a day off of protesting and let others mourn and do their thing? 

IMO, there's a time and a place for a protest, or whatever....a candlelight vigil is NOT one of them. 

 

Damn right! 

Liberals are childish spoiled little brats that need to get their way. 

@Ron_Artest

[Fnord 2,374]

3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

What's up with all of these "protests" and vandals at the vigils? 

People can't take a day off of protesting and let others mourn and do their thing? 

IMO, there's a time and a place for a protest, or whatever....a candlelight vigil is NOT one of them. 

 

Normal people across the political spectrum agree with you.