Fnord 2,370 Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, posty said: Utah Governor Says Social Media Is “A Cancer On Society Right Now” As He Laments Spread Of Video Of Charlie Kirk Killing https://deadline.com/2025/09/utah-governor-charlie-kirk-social-media-cancer-1236530008/ Utah Governor Spencer Cox called social media “a cancer on society right now,” as he lamented the proliferation of graphic videos of Charlie Kirk‘s assassination. Speaking to reporters on Friday, Cox said, “If you look at true political assassinations in this country, of someone of this stature, this feels a lot like the late 60s. And having one so gruesomely displayed on camera in all of our hands and in all of our pockets. We are not wired as human beings, biologically. Historically, we have not evolved in a way that we are capable of processing those types of violent imagery.” He also cited a video of the stabbing of a woman, a refugee from Ukraine, on Charlotte, NC public transit. “This is not good for us. It is not good to consume. Social media is a cancer on our society right now, and I would encourage people to log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a family member,” Cox said. “Go out and do good in your community. That is happening, and it is happening organically right now.” Videos of the killing were prevalent on social media platforms in the immediate aftermath of Kirk’s killing, showing the moment when he was struck by a bullet to the neck. The videos came from eyewitnesses who were present at Kirk’s appearance at Utah Valley University, where he was addressing thousands in the first stop of a college tour. Broadcast and cable networks like CNN did show some of the footage, but stopped the images and ran only audio, with the sounds of those in the crowd screaming. Kirk, 31, was among the most prominent influencers on the right, who capitalized on social media to reach and organize for the organization he co-founded, Turning Point USA, with millions of followers. A suspect, Tyler Robinson, 22, is in custody. Spokespersons for Google/YouTube, TikTok and X did not immediate respond to requests for comment. A Meta spokesperson said that they are applying a warning label to footage of the shooting and restricting the videos to those 18 and older. They also are removing content that “glorifies or supports the incident or the perpetrator,” the spokesperson said. Cox also called for restraint in reaction to Kirk’s assassination, noting that residents of Utah did not riot or loot or engage in violence, and instead held vigils and said prayers. “We can return violence with violence. We can return hate with hate,” Cox said. “And that’s the problem with political violence. It metastasizes, because we can always point the figure at the other side. At some point we have to find an offramp, or it’s going to get much, much worse.” “History will dictate that this is a turning point for our country,” he said. ---------------------------- Now? Where has he been for the past 15 years or so? Cox has comported himself with a lot of class throughout this mess. His messaging has been spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,097 Posted 4 hours ago 52 minutes ago, jonnyutah said: I acknowledge that the minnesota reformer reported that the anonymous workers at DFL told them he didnt vote in their primary and the mary jane party said he didnt vote in theirs. (Both violating state law anonymously.) Is there a better source out there that shows his party affiliation? But lets say we give that one to you. Lets say we trust "the reformer" a super right wing publication. Do you acknowledge he killed a democrat that was the only Democrat in the House to vote for a 2025 budget deal that repealed health coverage for undocumented adults, including those from Africa, despite having previously supported it and that Bolter was very devoted to helping africans? Admittedly a super right wing position in MN of course. You know those MN GOPers always bring in the africans. Also do you admit he had no kings flyers again a super right wing position? Also do you admit that these events happened after the 2024 primary making them more recent data points? Just in the interest of free and fair discussion of course, which is why I assume you brought this up. He was registered as a Republican while living in Oklahoma. He filled out a survey in Minnesota saying he would “vote Republicans down the ticket.” All the names on the list were Democrats, and he also shot someone who voted for giving illegals free healthcare (even though multiple GC posters fell for the fake news about them both voting against it). His roommate said he was a Trump supporter, and didn’t like Biden or Pelosi. I haven’t seen good evidence he was “devoted to helping Africans,” he made a business selling stuff to them, could have been a scam. The flyers thing is nonsense, can easily be explained that he didn’t want others to have them or was trying to blend in. But hey, at least you didn’t bring up “appointed by Walz!” That’s progress at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,248 Posted 4 hours ago It’s sad that a person can care for others so much, and would go out of their way to speak righteousness to better people and to teach them of the truth of the Lord, and to teach how to make America great again, would be a threat because some disagreed with him. Shame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,687 Posted 4 hours ago The Proud Boys! Oh no! Don’t forget the Boogaloo boys too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,687 Posted 4 hours ago Does the Father get the reward money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,097 Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: but hes a republican and dressed like Trump!!! But he’s a flaming leftist confirmed!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,823 Posted 4 hours ago 35 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: There’s more than one way. He was young & free with options. That’s over now. Sure but you seem to think it's particularly sad because he had a nice new car and where he lived. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 470 Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Sure but you seem to think it's particularly sad because he had a nice new car and where he lived. No. I live in New Orleans. Lost lives are all around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,097 Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: I mean in the report it says that Robinson talked with a family member about his dislike for Kirk and the family member also talked about how Kirk says hateful things...Then the parents say the kid was "radicalized." That seems to indicate they weren't saying he was radicalized to the left per se. It would also mean some people on the right here would have to acknowledge that there is a discrepancy between someone being a Democrat and being a far left nutjob- if it were that he was radicalized left. Do we know the political affiliation of that family member? Because if they didn’t specify which side radicalized the shooter, then it was probably the same one they align with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,823 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said: No. I live in New Orleans. Lost lives are all around. Then why did you feel compelled to mention those things specifically instead of just saying it's sad when ANYONE throws their life away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 409 Posted 4 hours ago 13 minutes ago, TimHauck said: He was registered as a Republican while living in Oklahoma. He filled out a survey in Minnesota saying he would “vote Republicans down the ticket.” All the names on the list were Democrats, and he also shot someone who voted for giving illegals free healthcare (even though multiple GC posters fell for the fake news about them both voting against it). His roommate said he was a Trump supporter, and didn’t like Biden or Pelosi. I haven’t seen good evidence he was “devoted to helping Africans,” he made a business selling stuff to them, could have been a scam. The flyers thing is nonsense, can easily be explained that he didn’t want others to have them or was trying to blend in. But hey, at least you didn’t bring up “appointed by Walz!” That’s progress at least. His tenure for Walz ended in 2023..2024 was more recent. I mean if I conceded your super right wing talking point about 2024. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 409 Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Do we know the political affiliation of that family member? What news outlet did they speak with? Because if they didn’t specify which side radicalized the shooter, then it was probably the same one they align with. Plus how does he explain the costume from 2017!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 470 Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Strike said: Then why did you feel compelled to mention those things specifically instead of just saying it's sad when ANYONE throws their life away? Because I was responding to a post specifically referencing Robinson. By & large there’s a discussion to be had about lost young men in this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,018 Posted 4 hours ago OMG now the conspiracy theorists are coming out HUGE on twitter! Staged!! Faked!! Blah focking blah. exhausting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,823 Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Because I was responding to a post specifically referencing Robinson. By & large there’s a discussion to be had about lost young men in this country. Sure Bud. Keep with the excuses . So sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,403 Posted 3 hours ago 22 minutes ago, TimHauck said: He was registered as a Republican while living in Oklahoma. He filled out a survey in Minnesota saying he would “vote Republicans down the ticket.” All the names on the list were Democrats, and he also shot someone who voted for giving illegals free healthcare (even though multiple GC posters fell for the fake news about them both voting against it). His roommate said he was a Trump supporter, and didn’t like Biden or Pelosi. I haven’t seen good evidence he was “devoted to helping Africans,” he made a business selling stuff to them, could have been a scam. The flyers thing is nonsense, can easily be explained that he didn’t want others to have them or was trying to blend in. But hey, at least you didn’t bring up “appointed by Walz!” That’s progress at least. This is off topic of what this thread is about. Post in a different and appropriate thread or start a new one please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 470 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Strike said: Sure Bud. Keep with the excuses . So sad. I have no quibble with you, sir. Thankfully, we are all safe and unaffected by all this. There will be no civil discord, no reaping, no retribution. Let’s get on with the weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,403 Posted 3 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Does the Father get the reward money? He should. My guess is it will never be offered to him unless he brings it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,097 Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Gepetto said: This is off topic of what this thread is about. Post in a different and appropriate thread or start a new one please. @jonnyutah said “These things go the same way every time. All recent things point to being a leftist.” I just wanted to make sure he was consistent and acknowledged that all the real evidence pointed to Boelter being a righty. Predictably, he was not consistent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,413 Posted 3 hours ago 22 minutes ago, TimHauck said: But he’s a flaming leftist confirmed!!!! yep anyone who spouts antifa ideology is on the left 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,097 Posted 3 hours ago 13 minutes ago, jonnyutah said: His tenure for Walz ended in 2023..2024 was more recent. I mean if I conceded your super right wing talking point about 2024. How about Boelter’s roommate saying in 2025 that he was a Trump supporter? Democrat plant paid by George Soros? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,097 Posted 3 hours ago 15 minutes ago, jonnyutah said: Plus how does he explain the costume from 2017!!! I agree the costume thing is stupid. And no, I’m not seeing much that would point to him being a conservative. The best evidence for him being a leftist is that he didn’t like Charlie Kirk. A lot of the other stuff doesn’t necessarily point to being a leftist, he could just be another in the long line of apolitical murderers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,097 Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: yep anyone who spouts antifa ideology is on the left 100% What antifa ideaology? “Take that, fascist” which could have been from a video game? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,413 Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: What antifa ideaology? “Take that, fascist” which could have been from a video game? bella ciao, the comment you mentioned, the police reports him telling family Charlie Kirk spread hate, you will not find a single other "republican" to make that claim occams razor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,370 Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: yep anyone who spouts antifa ideology is on the left 100% I'm not convinced what you think of as antifa even has an ideology. Mostly they just seem like opportunistic thugs that dress in black so they can't be identified when they're focking things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,413 Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Fnord said: I'm not convinced what you think of as antifa even has an ideology. Mostly they just seem like opportunistic thugs that dress in black so they can't be identified when they're focking things up. right I get it, antifa doesn't exist argument, same sh1t my mom has claimed for years, but she has her antifa gear for events she goes to, yet she doesn't wear it to all her stupid a55 protests, maybe she just randomly guesses, probably nothing online to organize it at all when someone says I AM ANTI-FASCIST i listen to their words. This POS did 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdGang 397 Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Fnord said: I'm not convinced what you think of as antifa even has an ideology. Mostly they just seem like opportunistic thugs that dress in black so they can't be identified when they're focking things up. Antifa, anti fascism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,370 Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: right I get it, antifa doesn't exist argument, same sh1t my mom has claimed for years, but she has her antifa gear for events she goes to, yet she doesn't wear it to all her stupid a55 protests, maybe she just randomly guesses, probably nothing online to organize it at all when someone says I AM ANTI-FASCIST i listen to their words. This POS did 1 minute ago, BirdGang said: Antifa, anti fascism. This is the USA, gentlemen. We're ALL supposed to be anti-fascist, no? I'm not claiming antifa doesn't exist. But it's not an organization per se. And most of those that would claim to be antifa, IMO, are just borderline sociopaths that get kicks out of focking things up. Antifa is just a convenient label for a bunch of mooks that are really closer to anarcho-nihilists in behavior. Again, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 470 Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: bella ciao, the comment you mentioned, the police reports him telling family Charlie Kirk spread hate, you will not find a single other "republican" to make that claim occams razor Bella ciao is a well known (to history nuts) leftist song from Mussolini era Italy & Spain’s civil war. But the song features in a video game & it’s suspected that’s where he got it from. It’s a gamer thing, which fits with the rest. I’m guessing this kid wouldn’t know 1930s era Italian folk songs from his elbow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,967 Posted 3 hours ago https://media.scored.co/post/mFTFQOPODQ9h.jpeg 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,236 Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Fnord said: antifa doesn't exist Really, because they show up at every Left Wing Protest. Do they not??? They're not at Trump rallies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 409 Posted 3 hours ago 23 minutes ago, TimHauck said: @jonnyutah said “These things go the same way every time. All recent things point to being a leftist.” I just wanted to make sure he was consistent and acknowledged that all the real evidence pointed to Boelter being a righty. Predictably, he was not consistent. Hahahaha. You brought up somethjng from 2004 after i brought up stuff from 2024. As usual, you are not a serious poster. Tried hard to get a gotcha, failed miserably, refused to acknowledge facts. Sad little man behavior as usual. But I will say...you are consistent. Hahahahahaha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,370 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: Really, because they show up at every Left Wing Protest. Do they not??? They're not at Trump rallies. Go quote someone else out of context, simpleton troll. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,763 Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, posty said: Utah Governor Says Social Media Is “A Cancer On Society Right Now” As He Laments Spread Of Video Of Charlie Kirk Killing https://deadline.com/2025/09/utah-governor-charlie-kirk-social-media-cancer-1236530008/ Utah Governor Spencer Cox called social media “a cancer on society right now,” as he lamented the proliferation of graphic videos of Charlie Kirk‘s assassination. Speaking to reporters on Friday, Cox said, “If you look at true political assassinations in this country, of someone of this stature, this feels a lot like the late 60s. And having one so gruesomely displayed on camera in all of our hands and in all of our pockets. We are not wired as human beings, biologically. Historically, we have not evolved in a way that we are capable of processing those types of violent imagery.” He also cited a video of the stabbing of a woman, a refugee from Ukraine, on Charlotte, NC public transit. “This is not good for us. It is not good to consume. Social media is a cancer on our society right now, and I would encourage people to log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a family member,” Cox said. “Go out and do good in your community. That is happening, and it is happening organically right now.” Videos of the killing were prevalent on social media platforms in the immediate aftermath of Kirk’s killing, showing the moment when he was struck by a bullet to the neck. The videos came from eyewitnesses who were present at Kirk’s appearance at Utah Valley University, where he was addressing thousands in the first stop of a college tour. Broadcast and cable networks like CNN did show some of the footage, but stopped the images and ran only audio, with the sounds of those in the crowd screaming. Kirk, 31, was among the most prominent influencers on the right, who capitalized on social media to reach and organize for the organization he co-founded, Turning Point USA, with millions of followers. A suspect, Tyler Robinson, 22, is in custody. Spokespersons for Google/YouTube, TikTok and X did not immediate respond to requests for comment. A Meta spokesperson said that they are applying a warning label to footage of the shooting and restricting the videos to those 18 and older. They also are removing content that “glorifies or supports the incident or the perpetrator,” the spokesperson said. Cox also called for restraint in reaction to Kirk’s assassination, noting that residents of Utah did not riot or loot or engage in violence, and instead held vigils and said prayers. “We can return violence with violence. We can return hate with hate,” Cox said. “And that’s the problem with political violence. It metastasizes, because we can always point the figure at the other side. At some point we have to find an offramp, or it’s going to get much, much worse.” “History will dictate that this is a turning point for our country,” he said. ---------------------------- Now? Where has he been for the past 15 years or so? Yep. We give crazies a megaphone and wonder why crazy starts spreading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdGang 397 Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Really, because they show up at every Left Wing Protest. Do they not??? They're not at Trump rallies. They vote for these guys, why don’t they embrace their party ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,236 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Fnord said: Go quote someone else out of context, simpleton troll. Transtifa IS LEFT WING!!! THEY ARE AT EVERY LEFTY PROTEST. EVERY SINGLE ONE!!! YOU SUPPORT TRANSTIFA, SAY IT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,687 Posted 3 hours ago Boogaloo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,413 Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Fnord said: This is the USA, gentlemen. We're ALL supposed to be anti-fascist, no? I'm not claiming antifa doesn't exist. But it's not an organization per se. And most of those that would claim to be antifa, IMO, are just borderline sociopaths that get kicks out of focking things up. Antifa is just a convenient label for a bunch of mooks that are really closer to anarcho-nihilists in behavior. Again, IMO. we are, but antifa uses fascism to push their fake narrative, authoritarianism and physical and verbal intimidation. get in line or be punished by death if necessary if you oppose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,413 Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Bella ciao is a well known (to history nuts) leftist song from Mussolini era Italy & Spain’s civil war. But the song features in a video game & it’s suspected that’s where he got it from. It’s a gamer thing, which fits with the rest. I’m guessing this kid wouldn’t know 1930s era Italian folk songs from his elbow. I know the history and I know its used currently within Antifa, ffs my mom has it in her house Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,236 Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Boogaloo! They're on the run, as they should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites