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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Didn’t he deny what he said about Polanski at first ? 

No, he DEFENDED IT.  For MONTHS.  Only when literally EVERYONE, including people he considered his supporters, made clear how bad it sounded did he backtrack.  And that's how you know he really still believes it.  I have no doubt Tim would bang a 13 year old if she put on some makeup and dressed "older."

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2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Tim, you have been shown to be a liar many many times..  So you saying "i told you exactly what I wrote" holds little real value.

You said it, I remember it very well.    I b!tched at you about then, and I am reminding you of it now.  You absolutely said it.

Tim will say something like I didnt say you were a racist, I said you were acting like a racist. 

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24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I can see that you and so many others here are absolutely convinced that this is the truth. (And President Trump agrees with you as well, based on his statements this morning.) 

I don’t think it’s the truth that liberals are more guilty , or that liberals started it. But I’m not going to try and convince you because I have already and it’s been pointless. What I will do instead is bring to your attention that there are many many liberals who believe that when it comes to political violence and hateful rhetoric towards the other side, conservatives are more guilty  and conservatives started it and liberals are only reacting. And FWIW I think they’re wrong too. 

This whole argument over who started it and who is more guilty is rather exhausting. Unless we move on from this it’s going to get worse. 

Which is why I say political violence is here to stay.  There will be a breaking point... I just don't know where, when, or how it will manifest, but it will.  I just hope it's not as bad as I think it may be.

Your second to last sentence is at the crux of the matter.  Democrats NEVER want to discuss the root of problems because they are the root almost every time.

Even you, at the individual level can't even acknowledge that the liberal elites are the root of the problem.  If you don't make them accountable, why will they?

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1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Tim, you have been shown to be a liar many many times..  So you saying "i told you exactly what I wrote" holds little real value.

You said it, I remember it very well.    I b!tched at you about then, and I am reminding you of it now.  You absolutely said it.

Dude I didn’t. Last time. My best friend in the whole world voted for Trump. I have loved ones, close ones who voted for Trump. They’re not racist. I don’t think you’re a racist. 

I have posted many many times that I don’t believe most Trump voters are racist. I don’t even believe most MAGA are racist. Some of them are. 
 

To your larger point: I don’t lie, I don’t troll. Sometimes I tell jokes that I feel are pretty obvious. Sometimes I forget something I wrote and I’ve been forced to apologize for that. Sometimes I write stupid stuff on the spur of the moment and I’ve had to apologize for THAT. It happens. But this one I did not do because it goes against the core of what I believe (not to blame whole groups of people for the actions of a few). If you can’t or won’t accept that, then we’re at an impasse. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Dude I didn’t. Last time. My best friend in the whole world voted for Trump. I have loved ones, close ones who voted for Trump. They’re not racist. I don’t think you’re a racist. 

I have posted many many times that I don’t believe most Trump voters are racist. I don’t even believe most MAGA are racist. Some of them are. 
 

To your larger point: I don’t lie, I don’t troll. Sometimes I tell jokes that I feel are pretty obvious. Sometimes I forget something I wrote and I’ve been forced to apologize for that. Sometimes I write stupid stuff on the spur of the moment and I’ve had to apologize for THAT. It happens. But this one I did not do because it goes against the core of what I believe (not to blame whole groups of people for the actions of a few). If you can’t or won’t accept that, then we’re at an impasse. 

Liar

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3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Liar

Yeah.   I can't with him, again.  Tim is a lot of things..some OK, some not.  But he has absolutely 100% lied many many times.   Has he changed?   Based on the posts above, doubtful.  

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Shonuff didn’t appear to be employed either 

Solid point. One more similarity. 

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4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Find his quote then...I'd love to see it too. Hell I'll call him a liar with you. 

GFY

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17 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Find his quote then...I'd love to see it too. Hell I'll call him a liar with you. 

He never provides links and if pressed on it he says something like "I don't have to prove it, everyone knows you said that." 😁

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49 minutes ago, squistion said:

No you didn't, and that is something I am pretty sure that I would remember if you did. 

Squissy and Real Tim sitting in a tree

K I S S I N G

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27 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Find his quote then...I'd love to see it too. Hell I'll call him a liar with you. 

Pretty sure it was at FBG and those posts are gone now

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3 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Pretty sure it was at FBG and those posts are gone now

That’s convenient. 

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10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm trying to unify different ideologies here man. Find his quote and we can call him a "liar" together.

You should form your own opinions of people and not rely on me to do it for you.  HTH.

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

That’s convenient. 

They were linked to from here for the last couple of years.  You never cared to read them before but now that Joe deleted them you care?

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5 minutes ago, Strike said:

They were linked to from here for the last couple of years.  You never cared to read them before but now that Joe deleted them you care?

-I never saw Tim say all MAGAs are racist and never saw you make that claim before. 

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

-I never saw Tim say all MAGAs are racist and never saw you make that claim before. 

All Trump voters are not MAGA

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sorry. But I didn’t write that. I told you exactly what I wrote. @Strike is also wrong, I don’t disavow it because I didn’t write it. 

Yes you did. I remember because you were calling me a racist through that post. You recanted later but you did post that

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Just now, Meglamaniac said:

Then why post this

 

I never saw Tim say all MAGAs are racist 

Because … I’ve never seen Tim make that claim.

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Just now, MDC said:

Because … I’ve never seen Tim make that claim.

Obviousely you can't comprehind what you read

That's not the claim being made here

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Just now, MDC said:

Because … I’ve never seen Tim make that claim.

He posted all Trump voters we’re racist and all female Trump voters were fat

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Just now, Meglamaniac said:

Obviousely you can't comprehind what you read

That's not the claim being made here

It’s inclusive of the claim though 

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2 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

All Trump voters are not MAGA

Right. I never wrote that all MAGA were racist, I wrote that all Trump voters were racist. Sure thing. Of course I did. 
 

I can’t disprove it now because all of those posts from 2016 are gone. But I’d like to point out that @Horseman and a few others spent MONTHS here reposting everything bad I’ve ever written, to try and show what a terrible guy I was. And, in truth they posted some stuff that I regret now. Don’t you think that if I had called all Trump voters racist he would have posted it? Thats pretty much as bad as it gets. 

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2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Political violence will never go away until we hit a breaking point.  No, I don't know what that breaking point will be and what the outcome will bring, but it's probably going to happen.  Why?  Because liberals view EVERY conservative ideology as "Hate".  It started with Obama where any time a Republican disagreed with him, it was because that person was racist.  Had nothing to do with the subject, just that, the Obama agenda was 100% correct and there was no "other side", so because that is the case, to disagree with him was purely because that person was racist.  That position won them the election 2008 and re-election in 2012, so that mindset is here to stay.  We know it's here because it didn't work out in 2016 (because no one actually liked Hillary), but it did in 2020.  It didn't work in 2024 (because no one actually liked Harris).  We all know that this approach works because Trump would never have won in 2016 or 2024 had the Democrats put forward someone who wasn't worse than Trump.  So, the Democrat battle plan to always claim Republican agenda's as "Hate", is here to stay.  I mean, it's still going on today, is it not?

People say "It's both sides that are guilty".  To an extent, this is true.  But a more accurate portrayal is "Actionary : Re-Actionary".  Democrats did it, it worked... Republicans had to respond in kind, because that's the message the country was buying.  So, because the Democrat platform of "Hate" is here to stay, so is Political Violence.

The reason that is here to stay is because the entire foundation of the Democrat party, is solely based on targeting "Victimhood".  The only way for the Democrat elites to stay in power, is to make sure there are always victims.  It's why I say they're the worst political organization to ever exist on this planet.  They are worst scumbags, ever.  They create victims be conjuring up some kind of problem, that isn't one, say those people are victims, and then blame Republicans.  The trans movement and illegal immigrants are the two most current.

Simply, your party is the problem.  You will say it's both, again, there's truth in that, but as I said "Actionary : Re-Actionary" is a better descripter.  If Democrats stop saying that every conservative talking point is "Hate", then division and (as a result), "Political Violence", is here to stay.

 

What you said: "Nor am I going to engage in whataboutisms though I could..."
What you meant: "I am a hypocrite and don't like being called out on it, so I'm going to ignore your statements".

 

It's here to stay because as your "Second" point states, you don't realize you are, in fact, the problem.

 

What's the over/under number on days when someone on the left says that Trump is "literally Hitler"?

Lol this is funny.  “It’s both sides but really it’s the left!”

No, it’s really both.

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Because … I’ve never seen Tim make that claim.

Nor have I. It is something people extrapolated from what he did say, a Straw Man they keep repeating. 

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10 minutes ago, MDC said:

-I never saw Tim say all MAGAs are racist and never saw you make that claim before. 

How many of the threads from FBGs that people have linked showing Tims posts over there have you read?

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1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

He posted all Trump voters we’re racist and all female Trump voters were fat

Fat and ugly. Most MAGA women, not all female Trump voters. Get it right. And I never wrote the first part. 

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2 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Obviousely you can't comprehind what you read

That's not the claim being made here

Tim said he never called all MAGAs racist. Strike said he’s a liar. 

Maybe I’m lost. Wouldn’t be the first time. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I can’t disprove it now because all of those posts from 2016 are gone. 

On a side note, Joe didn’t just close the forum he deleted it.

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Just now, MDC said:

Tim said he never called all MAGAs racist. Strike said he’s a liar. 

Maybe I’m lost. Wouldn’t be the first time. 

ALL TRUMP VOTERS, not MAGA

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21 minutes ago, Strike said:

You should form your own opinions of people and not rely on me to do it for you.  HTH.

So you have no posts of him saying what you accused him of?

Bummer. 

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3 minutes ago, Strike said:

They were linked to from here for the last couple of years.  You never cared to read them before but now that Joe deleted them you care?

Why should anyone care about this tired old garbage? I've been hearing about the Roman Polanski crap for years. Nobody other than those that feel a need to hold something over Tim's head perpetually gives half a fock. It has nothing to do with this forum or the topics at hand, like ever.

I'll also point out that the people that tend to constantly call him a liar are mostly those that just don't like what he says. That is not exclusive to righties slamming Tim, either. That label gets tossed out often and with ease, and in most cases is misguided at best. Witness the daily back and forth between Hauck and Megla, wherein both of them look foolish.

The focking world is going to hell, some of us would like to discuss it, but we have to sift through dozens of posts with people bringing up irrelevant statements from over a decade ago on another board.

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5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Right. I never wrote that all MAGA were racist, I wrote that all Trump voters were racist. Sure thing. Of course I did. 
 

I can’t disprove it now because all of those posts from 2016 are gone. But I’d like to point out that @Horseman and a few others spent MONTHS here reposting everything bad I’ve ever written, to try and show what a terrible guy I was. And, in truth they posted some stuff that I regret now. Don’t you think that if I had called all Trump voters racist he would have posted it? Thats pretty much as bad as it gets. 

This is factually untrue.  At best we've linked to maybe 1% of your vile, disgusting posts.

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