jonnyutah 444 Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, Fnord said: You think Biden allegedly taking kickbacks (scant evidence, not even being pursued by Trump's DOJ b/c it was BS, they won the election so the lie is no longer useful) is the same as the Trump family accepting a $2B investment from a foreign nation right before he authorizes giving them computer chips (which his own intelligence agencies warned him against due to connections between UAE and China). And you call me an idiot. Lol. You still cant grasp anything. Literally everything goes over your head. You are actually dumber than ron. I find that amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,736 Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: You still listen to 770 Rarely. I like to listen to the Yankee game while I’m out. You don’t have to worry about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,257 Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, thegeneral said: Yeah he blew up any idea of why he wants Kimmel out. It’s not comments on Kirk…its that he is “against” Dom so therefore shouldn’t be on air. I get why Trump is crazy…you nuthuggers enable everything he does. It’s wild. Make up all the crap you want peeboy, you lose again is all that counts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,692 Posted 3 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Who below age 60 still listens to AM radio? Lots of people. You should try it. You might learn something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,121 Posted 3 hours ago How JFK Censored Right-Wing Radio In the early 1960s, President Kennedy’s administration launched one of the most successful censorship campaigns in U.S. history. The subjects of Kennedy’s ire were conservative radio broadcasters, who constantly attacked the administration’s policy proposals. Worried about his reelection chances, Kennedy instructed the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to target the offending broadcasters with tax audits and heightened regulatory scrutiny. Within a few years, this censorship campaign had driven conservative broadcasters off hundreds of radio stations; it would be more than a decade before the end of the Fairness Doctrine enabled the resurgence of political talk radio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,136 Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Strike said: Uh, you don't get why the government helping fund the media is a problem? You're not a serious poster. I get the problem. But first off I don’t think it’s comparable. Second, and more importantly, any rules or norms that Democrats break at this time are really inconsequential, IMO, compared to the damage that Trump and MAGA are doing to our political system. My premise is that Trump is so awful, and what he is doing is so awful, that it’s almost unpatriotic to criticize Democrats who are the only ones trying to fight him. Are they making mistakes? Sure? Are some of the Dems behaving corruptly or badly? Probably. But it doesn’t matter, we are not in normal times. Once Trump and MAGA have been defeated we can go back to criticizing Democrats. Until then we can’t. Thats my idea of being serious. It outweighs yours. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,692 Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I get the problem. But first off I don’t think it’s comparable. Second, and more importantly, any rules or norms that Democrats break at this time are really inconsequential, IMO, compared to the damage that Trump and MAGA are doing to our political system. My premise is that Trump is so awful, and what he is doing is so awful, that it’s almost unpatriotic to criticize Democrats who are the only ones trying to fight him. Are they making mistakes? Sure? Are some of the Dems behaving corruptly or badly? Probably. But it doesn’t matter, we are not in normal times. Once Trump and MAGA have been defeated we can go back to criticizing Democrats. Until then we can’t. Thats my idea of being serious. It outweighs yours. Win by any means possible. That's not a new tactic being employed to defeat Trump. It’s what the left has always done. ETA: Trump stole your playbook and you're panicking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,855 Posted 2 hours ago 23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I get the problem. But first off I don’t think it’s comparable. Second, and more importantly, any rules or norms that Democrats break at this time are really inconsequential, IMO, compared to the damage that Trump and MAGA are doing to our political system. My premise is that Trump is so awful, and what he is doing is so awful, that it’s almost unpatriotic to criticize Democrats who are the only ones trying to fight him. Are they making mistakes? Sure? Are some of the Dems behaving corruptly or badly? Probably. But it doesn’t matter, we are not in normal times. Once Trump and MAGA have been defeated we can go back to criticizing Democrats. Until then we can’t. Thats my idea of being serious. It outweighs yours. Just confirming what I've always said about you - you're an ends justifies the means person. Not a serious poster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,969 Posted 2 hours ago 23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I get the problem. But first off I don’t think it’s comparable. Second, and more importantly, any rules or norms that Democrats break at this time are really inconsequential, IMO, compared to the damage that Trump and MAGA are doing to our political system. My premise is that Trump is so awful, and what he is doing is so awful, that it’s almost unpatriotic to criticize Democrats who are the only ones trying to fight him. Are they making mistakes? Sure? Are some of the Dems behaving corruptly or badly? Probably. But it doesn’t matter, we are not in normal times. Once Trump and MAGA have been defeated we can go back to criticizing Democrats. Until then we can’t. Thats my idea of being serious. It outweighs yours. This is a variation on the Leftist rhetoric that led Robinson to assassinate Kirk in cold blood. Trump is so evil that any behavior is excused through Machiavellian rationalizations. But the right is the side of the dangerous rhetoric. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,692 Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: This is a variation on the Leftist rhetoric that led Robinson to assassinate Kirk in cold blood. Trump is so evil that any behavior is excused through Machiavellian rationalizations. But the right is the side of the dangerous rhetoric. Nailed it. Drobeski would be proud of you, Jer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,736 Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: This is a variation on the Leftist rhetoric that led Robinson to assassinate Kirk in cold blood. Trump is so evil that any behavior is excused through Machiavellian rationalizations. But the right is the side of the dangerous rhetoric. Perfect analysis. Kudos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,136 Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Win by any means possible. That's not a new tactic being employed to defeat Trump. It’s what the left has always done. ETA: Trump stole your playbook and you're panicking. Well first off never political violence, that’s unacceptable. Second we have to redefine winning. I want to save our democracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,136 Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, jerryskids said: This is a variation on the Leftist rhetoric that led Robinson to assassinate Kirk in cold blood. Trump is so evil that any behavior is excused through Machiavellian rationalizations. But the right is the side of the dangerous rhetoric. Well except for the no political violence part. Also I don’t believe that Trump is evil. I used the word awful. Not the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,014 Posted 2 hours ago Well it looks like little squisssy @squistion has been a naughty little boy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,138 Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: On the censoring of Kimmel, to the extent Trump did it, I wish he hadn't. Kimmel's comment would have aged like a jug of milk on my back porch in August, and we could have had merciless fun at his expense, as it should have been. Now, Trump has provided the butterfly (an unfortunately, more than a butterfly) that the Left desperately needed to distract from the fact that a whackjob Leftist kid was spun up by negative rhetoric on their side to assassinate Kirk. It’s not just from leftists. Again, he didn’t deserve to be killed for it, but Kirk absolutely contributed to the overall flow of negative rhetoric. There’s really no evidence that Robinson was “spun up” by negative rhetoric from the left as opposed to just getting riled up directly from Kirk’s comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,855 Posted 2 hours ago He didn't deserve to die but........ugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,692 Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Well first off never political violence, that’s unacceptable. Second we have to redefine winning. I want to save our democracy. Then stop voting for those who wish to destroy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,692 Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Strike said: He didn't deserve to die but........ugh. You can pretty much ignore everything before the 'but", it's how they really feel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,033 Posted 2 hours ago I dont like how angry liberals are getting over this..not at all. This could be an ugly weekend. Let's hope not. Nowadays you just cant be sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,855 Posted 2 hours ago Just now, supermike80 said: I dont like how angry liberals are getting over this..not at all. This could be an ugly weekend. Let's hope not. Nowadays you just cant be sure There's going to be more violence from the left over a multi millionaire getting suspended from his job than there was from the right when a leftie assassinated a conservative he didbt agree with. Think about that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,033 Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Strike said: There's going to be more violence from the left over a multi millionaire getting suspended from his job than there was from the right when a leftie assassinated a conservative he didbt agree with. Think about that Well. I don't know there will be. But a bunch of very angry liberals isnt comforting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,855 Posted 2 hours ago Just now, supermike80 said: Well. I don't know there will be. But a bunch of very angry liberals isnt comforting I have faith in them. They're predictable and some of them need TV's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,138 Posted 2 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Strike said: He didn't deserve to die but........ugh. Just stating facts. And it needs to be said when you have idiots blaming only rhetoric from the left. And no, I’m not talking about his college talks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,969 Posted 1 hour ago 38 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Well except for the no political violence part. Also I don’t believe that Trump is evil. I used the word awful. Not the same. You said nothing against political violence in the post I quoted. Further, you said: Quote Are they making mistakes? Sure? Are some of the Dems behaving corruptly or badly? Probably. But it doesn’t matter, we are not in normal times. Is it fair to include political violence in "behaving corruptly or badly"? If not, you don't think it's bad. If so, you are OK with it, Machiavelli. Is this where you ask if I'm trolling because you can't follow the discussion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,889 Posted 1 hour ago There will not be Jimmy Kimmel riots this weekend Idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,441 Posted 1 hour ago So the reality is that two major carriers would not continue without an apology. ABC management tells Kimmel to fix it. He says no so they suspend him also lots of advertisers were pulling out far before Carr even said a word disney gets a bail out for a show that was hemorrhaging cash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,855 Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: There will not be Jimmy Kimmel riots this weekend Idiots. Agreed but there may be Jimmy Kimmel peaceful protests that just happen to result in burned out buildings and hospital visits. But totally peaceful!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,136 Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: You said nothing against political violence in the post I quoted. Further, you said: Is it fair to include political violence in "behaving corruptly or badly"? If not, you don't think it's bad. If so, you are OK with it, Machiavelli. Is this where you ask if I'm trolling because you can't follow the discussion? No I don’t think you’re trolling. But I think your post and analysis of my position is based more on your own constant need for a black and white, us vs them scenario rather than an honest estimation of what I believe. In the past couple of years I’ve made hundreds of posts in this forum and I have consistently and ALWAYS rejected political violence as a solution to any problem. You’ve read me enough, argued with me enough to know that is the case. And just in case you’re confused enough to believe that I have changed my position (which is core to my beliefs) I clearly stated it in the next post. So for you to try to argue with me about what I’m thinking strikes me as bizarre or disingenuous. But let me go further just in case there is STILL a misconception: my position mirrors that of Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr, when faced with oppression that was protected by law: those two men resorted to peaceful, nonviolent resistance which included breaking or ignoring the law in certain instances so long as there was no violence. To me this is a proper response to American injustice, and to Trump. There are times and countries in history when violent resistance is justifiable- against slavery, or genocide , or brutal war. But in modern America we have not and I trust never will be threatened with those things. Hopefully I have made myself abundantly clear. Any further questions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,257 Posted 1 hour ago 22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No I don’t think you’re trolling. But I think your post and analysis of my position is based more on your own constant need for a black and white, us vs them scenario rather than an honest estimation of what I believe. In the past couple of years I’ve made hundreds of posts in this forum and I have consistently and ALWAYS rejected political violence as a solution to any problem. You’ve read me enough, argued with me enough to know that is the case. And just in case you’re confused enough to believe that I have changed my position (which is core to my beliefs) I clearly stated it in the next post. So for you to try to argue with me about what I’m thinking strikes me as bizarre or disingenuous. But let me go further just in case there is STILL a misconception: my position mirrors that of Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr, when faced with oppression that was protected by law: those two men resorted to peaceful, nonviolent resistance which included breaking or ignoring the law in certain instances so long as there was no violence. To me this is a proper response to American injustice, and to Trump. There are times and countries in history when violent resistance is justifiable- against slavery, or genocide , or brutal war. But in modern America we have not and I trust never will be threatened with those things. Hopefully I have made myself abundantly clear. Any further questions? Your opinions on everything all suck and are 100% of the time wrong. You are are a treasonous anti-American hate filled liberal who has no place in this country. You are a low class and only going down in life. It's a very good thing for this country that no one takes you seriously in life and that you will never hold a position of power or influence over anyone. Ever. In any capacity. And that is a blessing. You only bring this on yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,136 Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Your opinions on everything all suck and are 100% of the time wrong. You are are a treasonous anti-American hate filled liberal who has no place in this country. You are a low class and only going down in life. It's a very good thing for this country that no one takes you seriously in life and that you will never hold a position of power or influence over anyone. Ever. In any capacity. And that is a blessing. You only bring this on yourself. I may print this out and frame it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 853 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Strike said: He didn't deserve to die but........ugh. ShoHack is a POS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,257 Posted 55 minutes ago 47 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: There will not be Jimmy Kimmel riots this weekend Idiots. Yeah, and the 2020 liberal riots didn't happen either. Protests have already begun. Only time til the libtards like yourself start throwing rocks, blocking roadways, shooting people like you did Kirk, and you all might as well loot some CVS and Targets stores to catch up on your shopping. You liberal clowns know nothing but violence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,969 Posted 46 minutes ago 45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No I don’t think you’re trolling. But I think your post and analysis of my position is based more on your own constant need for a black and white, us vs them scenario rather than an honest estimation of what I believe. In the past couple of years I’ve made hundreds of posts in this forum and I have consistently and ALWAYS rejected political violence as a solution to any problem. You’ve read me enough, argued with me enough to know that is the case. And just in case you’re confused enough to believe that I have changed my position (which is core to my beliefs) I clearly stated it in the next post. So for you to try to argue with me about what I’m thinking strikes me as bizarre or disingenuous. But let me go further just in case there is STILL a misconception: my position mirrors that of Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr, when faced with oppression that was protected by law: those two men resorted to peaceful, nonviolent resistance which included breaking or ignoring the law in certain instances so long as there was no violence. To me this is a proper response to American injustice, and to Trump. There are times and countries in history when violent resistance is justifiable- against slavery, or genocide , or brutal war. But in modern America we have not and I trust never will be threatened with those things. Hopefully I have made myself abundantly clear. Any further questions? "Abundantly clear", that's like full stop, your bravado acting like you've been a staunch advocate against violence from your side in a bunch of posts. You from a week ago. Oops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,855 Posted 12 minutes ago 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Just stating facts. And it needs to be said when you have idiots blaming only rhetoric from the left. And no, I’m not talking about his college talks. No, you're not just stating facts. You leftists believe anything you don't agree with is hate speech. Charlie Kirk was all about open dialogue. Just because you didn't agree with his stances doesn't make those stances hate speech. Your attempt to justify his assassination is disgusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites