Strike 5,871 Posted 8 hours ago 7 minutes ago, MDC said: I didn’t ask you. So you weren't really looking for an answer to your question; you just wanted to argue with a specific person. Gotcha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,407 Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Asking private companies to stop spreading lies for the benefit of public health is just as bad as the FCC taking away the license of a broadcaster because a comic said something that hurt the presidents feelings? Yes. This is equal in MAGAland. It was fairly obvious early on in the pandemic that they only care about themselves and their own selfish desires. The health of others did not matter if their lives were going to be affected in the least. I saw that up close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,681 Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: During his monologue, he said that "...the shooter was a pro-Trump Republican". It was already reported earlier that this was not the case. According to FCC guidelines, that's a big no-no. From that pdf: "The FCC prohibits broadcasting false information about a crime or a catastrophe if the broadcaster knows the information is false and will cause substantial “public harm” if aired." Also in link: "Broadcasting false content during news programming The FCC is prohibited by law from engaging in censorship or infringing on First Amendment rights of the press. It is, however, illegal for broadcasters to intentionally distort the news, and the FCC may act on complaints if there is documented evidence of such behavior from persons with direct personal knowledge." The FCC only brought this to the attention of Sinclair/ABC/Disney... they're the ones who took action. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,681 Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, Strike said: So you weren't really looking for an answer to your question; you just wanted to argue with a specific person. Gotcha. I got my answer without your involvement, sweetheart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,631 Posted 8 hours ago Just now, MDC said: Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,158 Posted 8 hours ago 8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: During his monologue, he said that "...the shooter was a pro-Trump Republican". It was already reported earlier that this was not the case. According to FCC guidelines, that's a big no-no. From that pdf: "The FCC prohibits broadcasting false information about a crime or a catastrophe if the broadcaster knows the information is false and will cause substantial “public harm” if aired." Meaning, he lied on air, about a news topic. He did it on purpose. It was intentional. Also in link: "Broadcasting false content during news programming The FCC is prohibited by law from engaging in censorship or infringing on First Amendment rights of the press. It is, however, illegal for broadcasters to intentionally distort the news, and the FCC may act on complaints if there is documented evidence of such behavior from persons with direct personal knowledge." The FCC only brought this to the attention of Sinclair/ABC/Disney... they're the ones who took action, not the FCC. this really is stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,631 Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, Herbivore said: this really is stupid You're saying it's wrong? Or are you saying it's a stupid reason why everything happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,363 Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Strike said: So you weren't really looking for an answer to your question; you just wanted to argue with a specific person. Gotcha. Shut up and repost or relink it then, like everyone is supposed to read everything you write. GTFOH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,778 Posted 8 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Fnord said: Yes. This is equal in MAGAland. It was fairly obvious early on in the pandemic that they only care about themselves and their own selfish desires. The health of others did not matter if their lives were going to be affected in the least. I saw that up close. How? We were on lockdown in the beginning and you work from home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,158 Posted 8 hours ago Just now, TBayXXXVII said: You're saying it's wrong? Or are you saying it's a stupid reason why everything happened? you have a quote in there that is not accurate. you lied. the fcc might need to step in here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,033 Posted 8 hours ago 9 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: During his monologue, he said that "...the shooter was a pro-Trump Republican". It was already reported earlier that this was not the case. According to FCC guidelines, that's a big no-no. From that pdf: "The FCC prohibits broadcasting false information about a crime or a catastrophe if the broadcaster knows the information is false and will cause substantial “public harm” if aired." Meaning, he lied on air, about a news topic. He did it on purpose. It was intentional. Also in link: "Broadcasting false content during news programming The FCC is prohibited by law from engaging in censorship or infringing on First Amendment rights of the press. It is, however, illegal for broadcasters to intentionally distort the news, and the FCC may act on complaints if there is documented evidence of such behavior from persons with direct personal knowledge." The FCC only brought this to the attention of Sinclair/ABC/Disney... they're the ones who took action, not the FCC. Quote “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” Fun fact- the words "pro" "Trump" and "Republican" are not in there. I mean- look I've given Trump credit in the past for saying controversial things but avoiding crossing the line into spots where he can be pressed on things. Kimmel did the same here. When did they officially rule on a motive or anything for the killer? Did it happen that weekend before? Did it happen after the monologue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,925 Posted 7 hours ago 14 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: During his monologue, he said that "...the shooter was a pro-Trump Republican". Stop you right there, that's a lie. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 470 Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: 18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: During his monologue, he said that "...the shooter was a pro-Trump Republican". Stop you right there, that's a lie. Thanks for your consistency. I remember when you were correcting people for saying charlie kirk said black people cant fly planes and that black women are dumb. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,778 Posted 7 hours ago Liberals hate the law being used. They prefer making it up. The especially like feel turning federal felonies into local misdemeanors. And they especially love when the number 3 at DOJ leaves for an assistant job at a local DA’s office. Lol. GFY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,925 Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, jonnyutah said: Thanks for your consistency. I remember when you were correcting people for saying charlie kirk said black people cant fly planes and that black women are dumb. I don't recall anyone saying that and Kirk obviously didn't say that. Kirk did say... “If I see a Black pilot, I’m gonna be like, ‘Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’” He also said... "You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to be taken somewhat seriously.” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,778 Posted 7 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Fun fact- the words "pro" "Trump" and "Republican" are not in there. I mean- look I've given Trump credit in the past for saying controversial things but avoiding crossing the line into spots where he can be pressed on things. Kimmel did the same here. When did they officially rule on a motive or anything for the killer? Did it happen that weekend before? Did it happen after the monologue? That’s the point. You keep your mouth shut until you know. Why is this so hard for libtards to grasp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,631 Posted 7 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Herbivore said: this really is stupid 23 minutes ago, Herbivore said: you have a quote in there that is not accurate. you lied. the fcc might need to step in here. 23 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Fun fact- the words "pro" "Trump" and "Republican" are not in there. I mean- look I've given Trump credit in the past for saying controversial things but avoiding crossing the line into spots where he can be pressed on things. Kimmel did the same here. When did they officially rule on a motive or anything for the killer? Did it happen that weekend before? Did it happen after the monologue? 19 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Stop you right there, that's a lie. You're correct... I paraphrased and quoted him. My bad. The point remains, Kimmel lied. Kimmel said: “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang trying to characterize this kid who killed Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” A couple of things... 1) When has a far leftist ever say say "MAGA" and NOT refer to that person being a Trump supporter? 2) When saying "trying to characterize... anything other than one of them", isn't that saying this kid "IS a Trump supporter? The answers to those questions (in order), is: Never and Yes. So, my paraphrase was correct, I just shouldn't have quoted it. Again, my bad. So... again.... he lied, on purpose, about news related topics concerning a crime. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 868 Posted 7 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Fnord said: Yes. This is equal in MAGAland. It was fairly obvious early on in the pandemic that they only care about themselves and their own selfish desires. The health of others did not matter if their lives were going to be affected in the least. I saw that up close. Oh bullsh!t. You freaks were trying to cancel anyone that wouldn't take an untested vaccine that turned out to cause blood clots and strokes. On top of that, you backed that liar Fauci with no proof your face maxi-pads were protecting anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,033 Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: You're correct... I paraphrased and quoted him. My bad. The point remains, Kimmel lied. Kimmel said: “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang trying to characterize this kid who killed Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” A couple of things... 1) When has a far leftist ever say say "MAGA" and NOT refer to that person being a Trump supporter? 2) When saying "trying to characterize... anything other than one of them", isn't that saying this kid "IS a Trump supporter? The answers to those questions (in order), is: Never and Yes. So, my paraphrase was correct, I just shouldn't have quoted it. Again, my bad. So... again.... he lied, on purpose, about news related topics concerning a crime. Again though- Trump does this all the time. He says things where it is implicitly clear what he is talking about but he never outright says the thing because that would cause legal trouble. Kimmel did the same thing here so he's good by letter of the law Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,871 Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Again though- Trump does this all the time. He says things where it is implicitly clear what he is talking about but he never outright says the thing because that would cause legal trouble. Kimmel did the same thing here so he's good by letter of the law Trump isn't a host on a platform governed by the FCC. He is not subject to the regulations ABC and Kimmel are. It's not an apples to apples comparison. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,925 Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Again though- Trump does this all the time. He says things where it is implicitly clear what he is talking about but he never outright says the thing because that would cause legal trouble. Kimmel did the same thing here so he's good by letter of the law What he said was not a lie, it's exactly what happened, we saw it on this board. Regardless, let's just assume he lied.. From that pdf: "The FCC prohibits broadcasting false information about a crime or a catastrophe if the broadcaster knows the information is false and will cause substantial “public harm” if aired." Did the lie cause substantial public harm? That's a big no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,631 Posted 7 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Again though- Trump does this all the time. He says things where it is implicitly clear what he is talking about but he never outright says the thing because that would cause legal trouble. Kimmel did the same thing here so he's good by letter of the law If that's the benchmark, why stop at Trump? That's every politician. Yeah, I said "every", not just some. To answer your question, it's because that's not under the purview if the FCC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,033 Posted 7 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Strike said: Trump isn't a host on a platform governed by the FCC. He is not subject to the regulations ABC and Kimmel are. It's not an apples to apples comparison. He is subject to the law. And again- depending on when things were officially known- Kimmel didn't "lie" per se 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,871 Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: He is subject to the law. And again- depending on when things were officially known- Kimmel didn't "lie" per se Just because you say something doesn't make it true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,757 Posted 7 hours ago Perfect exemplification of liberals. Elon Musk - Pre friends with Trump - Best person evah! Elon Musk - Friends with Trump - BURN HIM ALIVE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,173 Posted 7 hours ago 6 hours ago, avoiding injuries said: Tim seemed angry last night. I guess when the biggest victory your side gets in a couple years is a washed up late night host being able to broadcast to half of his 120k viewers, I’d be angry too. I wasn’t angry. Actually I was amused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,810 Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: Discussing if Covid came from the Wuhan Covid lab was a detriment to public health? Young healthy people don't need jabs too. Couldn't say that. Saying the jab won't prevent you from getting covid. Best part about that one was there was a minute when they finally had to admit it, a bunch of covidians were all like, "well of course a vaccine doesn't keep you from getting the disease, duh!!!" Anyone who brought up myocarditis... Don't say lockdowns weren't necessary. And not covid, but not sure how hunter's laptop implicating Biden in a pay for access scheme had anything to do with public health. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,158 Posted 6 hours ago 56 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: You're correct... I paraphrased and quoted him. My bad. The point remains, Kimmel lied. Kimmel said: “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang trying to characterize this kid who killed Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” A couple of things... 1) When has a far leftist ever say say "MAGA" and NOT refer to that person being a Trump supporter? 2) When saying "trying to characterize... anything other than one of them", isn't that saying this kid "IS a Trump supporter? The answers to those questions (in order), is: Never and Yes. So, my paraphrase was correct, I just shouldn't have quoted it. Again, my bad. So... again.... he lied, on purpose, about news related topics concerning a crime. I disagree with you on #2. its funny that you acknowledge you lied, but still try to claim to be correct. so, still your bad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,778 Posted 6 hours ago The misinformation about Covid was coming from the government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,810 Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: During his monologue, he said that "...the shooter was a pro-Trump Republican". It was already reported earlier that this was not the case. According to FCC guidelines, that's a big no-no. From that pdf: "The FCC prohibits broadcasting false information about a crime or a catastrophe if the broadcaster knows the information is false and will cause substantial “public harm” if aired." Meaning, he lied on air, about a news topic. He did it on purpose. It was intentional. Also in link: "Broadcasting false content during news programming The FCC is prohibited by law from engaging in censorship or infringing on First Amendment rights of the press. It is, however, illegal for broadcasters to intentionally distort the news, and the FCC may act on complaints if there is documented evidence of such behavior from persons with direct personal knowledge." The FCC only brought this to the attention of Sinclair/ABC/Disney... they're the ones who took action, not the FCC. You guys are finally getting to the best argument. Not winnable, but better than claiming abc fired him for cause. But while it's better, I would need more... 1. It's not a news program. It's a comedy show. 2. What public harm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,810 Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: You're saying it's wrong? Or are you saying it's a stupid reason why everything happened? He's saying it's stupid because he hasn't been given the counter talking points yet. It's not dumb at all. It's probably just a misapplication of the law. I would also argue this is an overreach of the application that would set a bad precedent. Or maybe a good one. I guess we could try arguing that even if it is a misapplication of the law, maybe it's necessary to force people to get things correct, but then we'd run into the problem of who gets to decide it's correct. Nah, it's bad precedent. Too bad Egregious George bounced. He was great at this stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,363 Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, nobody said: You guys are finally getting to the best argument. Not winnable, but better than claiming abc fired him for cause. But while it's better, I would need more... 1. It's not a news program. It's a comedy show. 2. What public harm? LMAO that they are still swinging with the 'he broke the law' argument. They can never admit they are wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,407 Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: How? We were on lockdown in the beginning and you work from home. Oh really? You couldn't leave your house? I entertain your bullshit here every day. I get some sort of perverse enjoyment from interacting with you most of the time. Not today. I reported to work every focking day of that pandemic and witnessed what was going on in the ER and ICU's. It was beyond ugly. People died and blamed those that were attempting to help their loved ones because of the absurd garbage that your boy Trump and his merry gaggle of dipshits spewed about it. That was an ugly, painful time that some of you have successfully memory holed. Not me, I lived it. Healthcare professionals have left the field because of how politicized that time was, and how they were treated by people they were trying to help under astonishingly tough circumstances. These are people that pride themselves on helping others and saving lives. You're insulting our professionalism and integrity. Go to hell. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,778 Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Fnord said: Oh really? You couldn't leave your house? I entertain your bullshit here every day. I get some sort of perverse enjoyment from interacting with you most of the time. Not today. I reported to work every focking day of that pandemic and witnessed what was going on in the ER and ICU's. It was beyond ugly. People died and blamed those that were attempting to help their loved ones because of the absurd garbage that your boy Trump and his merry gaggle of dipshits spewed about it. That was an ugly, painful time that some of you have successfully memory holed. Not me, I lived it. Healthcare professionals have left the field because of how politicized that time was, and how they were treated by people they were trying to help under astonishingly tough circumstances. These are people that pride themselves on helping others and saving lives. You're taking a giant dump on us and insulting our professionalism and integrity. Go to hell. No I wasn’t. Thanks for what you did. I would just like to know what Trump said or did that made things harder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 868 Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Fnord said: Oh really? You couldn't leave your house? I entertain your bullshit here every day. I get some sort of perverse enjoyment from interacting with you most of the time. Not today. I reported to work every focking day of that pandemic and witnessed what was going on in the ER and ICU's. It was beyond ugly. People died and blamed those that were attempting to help their loved ones because of the absurd garbage that your boy Trump and his merry gaggle of dipshits spewed about it. That was an ugly, painful time that some of you have successfully memory holed. Not me, I lived it. Healthcare professionals have left the field because of how politicized that time was, and how they were treated by people they were trying to help under astonishingly tough circumstances. These are people that pride themselves on helping others and saving lives. You're insulting our professionalism and integrity. Go to hell. Blame Fauci. You guys bought into his lies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,158 Posted 6 hours ago 15 minutes ago, nobody said: He's saying it's stupid because he hasn't been given the counter talking points yet. It's not dumb at all. It's probably just a misapplication of the law. I would also argue this is an overreach of the application that would set a bad precedent. Or maybe a good one. I guess we could try arguing that even if it is a misapplication of the law, maybe it's necessary to force people to get things correct, but then we'd run into the problem of who gets to decide it's correct. Nah, it's bad precedent. Too bad Egregious George bounced. He was great at this stuff I said it was stupid cause of how stupid it was. Saying that I am looking to follow counter talking points is very weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,407 Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said: Blame Fauci. You guys bought into his lies. I never GAF what Fauci said. I followed the recommendations made by my employer, and will continue to do so. Anyone following Trump and Kennedy for healthcare advice over places like Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic, or Mayo Clinic probably deserves whatever they get. Unfortunately, those dipshits also influence others, like their kids. This administration will end up demolishing our health as a nation because partisan idiots like you can't figure out you're being lied to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,407 Posted 6 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No I wasn’t. Thanks for what you did. I would just like to know what Trump said or did that made things harder? Yeah you were. Fock off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 868 Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Fnord said: I never GAF what Fauci said. I followed the recommendations made by my employer, and will continue to do so. Anyone following Trump and Kennedy for healthcare advice over places like Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic, or Mayo Clinic probably deserves whatever they get. Unfortunately, those dipshits also influence others, like their kids. This administration will end up demolishing our health as a nation because partisan idiots like you can't figure out you're being lied to. This partisan idiot figured out Fauci was lying pretty quickly. Perhaps you should look in the mirror and stop lashing out like a 7 year old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,407 Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said: This partisan idiot figured out Fauci was lying pretty quickly. Perhaps you should look in the mirror and stop lashing out like a 7 year old. Perhaps you can fock right off. I'm proud of what I do and the people that I help. I wouldn't expect you to understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites