Jimmy Kimmel fired

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3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Perhaps you can fock right off. I'm proud of what I do and the people that I help. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Again, stop being an emotional 7 year old.  I don't know what you do and frankly, don't give a fock.  You're in here lobbing baseless accusations at people because you have OMB syndrome.  That's your problem not mine.  Trump wasn't the problem with Covid misinformation.  That was on Fauci who got caught lying.  Sorry you can't cope with this fact.

[TBayXXXVII 2,631]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

You guys are finally getting to the best argument.  Not winnable, but better than claiming abc fired him for cause.

But while it's better, I would need more...

1. It's not a news program.  It's a comedy show.  

2. What public harm?

I think they fired him for financial reasons, it just looked better for their political side to make it look like the government caused it.  That aside, to your points...

1.  It doesn't matter that his show is a comedy show... though, one would contend that the show would have to be funny for it to qualify as a comedy show.  But, I digress.  He wasn't making a joke.  He was making a statement.

2. The fact that this topic exists, provides an example of public harm, I would think.  Does it not?  Kimmel's statement was political rhetoric attacking one side based on misinformation, was it not?  Isn't that what got Trump shot at twice, what got Hortman killed, what got Kirk killed?  Isn't that thing that people are claiming needs to stop?

 

Also, the only thing the FCC wanted was for Kimmel (to pretend), to apologize.  That's all.  How do we know that?  Because that's all that happened and he's back on the air.  They weren't trying to silence him.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,778]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Yeah you were. Fock off.

So what did Trump say or do that made your job harder? 

[TimHauck 3,172]

2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

 

 

 

2) When saying "trying to characterize... anything other than one of them", isn't that saying this kid "IS a Trump supporter?
 

Not directly.  Thanks confirming he didn’t lie, and you did.

[TimHauck 3,172]

25 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I think they fired him for financial reasons, it just looked better for their political side to make it look like the government caused it.  That aside, to your points...

1.  It doesn't matter that his show is a comedy show... though, one would contend that the show would have to be funny for it to qualify as a comedy show.  But, I digress.  He wasn't making a joke.  He was making a statement.

2. The fact that this topic exists, provides an example of public harm, I would think.  Does it not?  Kimmel's statement was political rhetoric attacking one side based on misinformation, was it not?  Isn't that what got Trump shot at twice, what got Hortman killed, what got Kirk killed?  Isn't that thing that people are claiming needs to stop?

 

Also, the only thing the FCC wanted was for Kimmel (to pretend), to apologize.  That's all.  How do we know that?  Because that's all that happened and he's back on the air.  They weren't trying to silence him.

He wasn’t fired.

[TimHauck 3,172]

3 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

Thanks for your consistency. I remember when you were correcting people for saying charlie kirk said black people cant fly planes and that black women are dumb. 

Yes thank you for pointing out the right’s hypocrisy about this, I called this out previously.

The diffe(R)ence is that people didn’t try saying Kirk was breaking the law.

[nobody 2,810]

28 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I think they fired him for financial reasons, it just looked better for their political side to make it look like the government caused it.  That aside, to your points...

1.  It doesn't matter that his show is a comedy show... though, one would contend that the show would have to be funny for it to qualify as a comedy show.  But, I digress.  He wasn't making a joke.  He was making a statement.

2. The fact that this topic exists, provides an example of public harm, I would think.  Does it not?  Kimmel's statement was political rhetoric attacking one side based on misinformation, was it not?  Isn't that what got Trump shot at twice, what got Hortman killed, what got Kirk killed?  Isn't that thing that people are claiming needs to stop?

Also, the only thing the FCC wanted was for Kimmel (to pretend), to apologize.  That's all.  How do we know that?  Because that's all that happened and he's back on the air.  They weren't trying to silence him.

I think it very much matters that it's a comedy show.  It's entertainment not news.  Jason Garrett's horrible football analysis isn't factual and causes public harm to the people that listen to him by making them dumber and the people that listen to his analysis for betting purposes are harmed financially.

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1 minute ago, nobody said:

I think it very much matters that it's a comedy show.  It's entertainment not news.  Jason Garrett's horrible football analysis isn't factual and causes public harm to the people that listen to him by making them dumber and the people that listen to his analysis for betting purposes are harmed financially.

It doesn't matter to the FCC.

I won't disagree with your claim about Garrett.  I'm ok with the FCC stepping in.

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11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Not directly.  Thanks confirming he didn’t lie, and you did.

The answer is YES.  He did lie.  I paraphrased.

[TimHauck 3,172]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The answer is YES.  He did lie.  I paraphrased.

Thanks for confirming hyperboles aren’t true.

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12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

He wasn’t fired.

I took OP's word for it.  Meh.  With that being the case, the left really made it a bigger issue than it should be, did they not?

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Just now, TimHauck said:

Thanks for confirming hyperboles aren’t true.

You still get over being owned on that, can you?    You keep doubling, tripling, quadrupling... down on that.  That is too funny.

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

I took OP's word for it.  Meh.  With that being the case, the left really made it a bigger issue than it should be, did they not?

Personally I now think he was fired, and they were going to announce it (legally you “suspend indefinitely” first for contractural reasons.) Then the public weighed in and Disney changed their minds. Making it a “big issue” is what caused the reversal. Kimmel basically acknowledged that last night .

[TimHauck 3,172]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

You still get over being owned on that, can you?    You keep doubling, tripling, quadrupling... down on that.  That is too funny.

Tbay: Jimmy Kimmel making a carefully worded statement that leads you to conclude something he didn’t actually say, is a lie!!!

Also Tbay: saying something that is literally impossible, doesn’t mean it’s not true!!!

lol

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Personally I now think he was fired, and they were going to announce it (legally you “suspend indefinitely” first for contractural reasons.) Then the public weighed in and Disney changed their minds. Making it a “big issue” is what caused the reversal. Kimmel basically acknowledged that last night .

Then he was fired by his company, the government didn't force them to do that.  All they wanted was an apology.  Also like I said earlier, I think this was strategic on ABC/Disney's part to make it look like government force.  Him being back on the air, after a mere apology kinda says that's right, no?

[TBayXXXVII 2,631]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Tbay: Jimmy Kimmel making a carefully worded statement that leads you to conclude something he didn’t actually say, is a lie!!!

Also Tbay: saying something that is literally impossible, doesn’t mean it’s not true!!!

lol

TBay:  What Jimmy Kimmel actually said, was actually a lie.

Also TBay: Something that is "literally impossible", isn't hyperbole.

@TimHauck can't handle being wrong, he just throws hissy fits.

[TimHauck 3,172]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Then he was fired by his company, the government didn't force them to do that.  All they wanted was an apology.  Also like I said earlier, I think this was strategic on ABC/Disney's part to make it look like government force.  Him being back on the air, after a mere apology kinda says that's right, no?

Strategic move that didn’t happen until after the head of the FCC said “we can do this the easy way or the hard way,” which was 2 days after Kimmel said the phrase in question.  Do you even hear yourself?

[TimHauck 3,172]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

TBay:  What Jimmy Kimmel actually said, was actually a lie.

Also TBay: Something that is "literally impossible", isn't hyperbole.

@TimHauck can't handle being wrong, he just throws hissy fits.

Can it rain buckets?

And no, Kimmel didn’t lie.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,778]

If it’s not a political show why does he have politicians on and talk about politics? 

[The Real timschochet 7,173]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Then he was fired by his company, the government didn't force them to do that.  All they wanted was an apology.  Also like I said earlier, I think this was strategic on ABC/Disney's part to make it look like government force.  Him being back on the air, after a mere apology kinda says that's right, no?

You’re overlooking two important points here: 

1. The head of the FCC went on the air, said he wanted Kimmel removed, and then said we can do this the easy way or the hard way. 
 

2. Sinclair Broadcasting and so think one other group, both of whom are looking for the FCC and Trump to approve large acquisitions later this year, responded to the FCC head’s statement by immediately suspending Kimmel’s show. This in turn resulted in Disney placing Kimmel on suspension. 
 

You can continue to claim that there is no connection and the government played no role but you look ridiculous in doing so, 

[TBayXXXVII 2,631]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re overlooking two important points here: 

1. The head of the FCC went on the air, said he wanted Kimmel removed, and then said we can do this the easy way or the hard way. 
 

2. Sinclair Broadcasting and so think one other group, both of whom are looking for the FCC and Trump to approve large acquisitions later this year, responded to the FCC head’s statement by immediately suspending Kimmel’s show. This in turn resulted in Disney placing Kimmel on suspension. 
 

You can continue to claim that there is no connection and the government played no role but you look ridiculous in doing so, 

1. Yes, taken off air until he issued an apology.

2. Yes, have Kimmel apologize, until then... ?

 

No one silenced Kimmel, except Kimmel and ABC/Disney... whomever.  All he had to do was say sorry.  Not hard.

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22 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Can it rain buckets?

And no, Kimmel didn’t lie.

If it's raining, then it's an "exaggeration" of the truth and not to be taken literally (which by definition), is "hyperbole".  If it's not raining at all, then to say that person is being hyperbolic, would be wrong to do so.  YOU said that hyperbole "by definition" is "not true".  You were incorrect. 

 

Oh, and yes, Kimmel lied.

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

If it's raining, then it's an "exaggeration" of the truth and not to be taken literally (which by definition), is "not true". 

FTFY

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16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

FTFY

You can keep with your childish rants, have at it.  Doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.

[HellToupee 2,027]

4 hours ago, Fnord said:

Yes. This is equal in MAGAland. It was fairly obvious early on in the pandemic that they only care about themselves and their own selfish desires. The health of others did not matter if their lives were going to be affected in the least. I saw that up close. 

 

How so? I was forced to get the vaccination and my employees weren’t? My employees worked everyday throughout Covid and were in direct contact with the public. I was forced to wear a mask and they weren’t. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,778]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If it’s not a political show why does he have politicians on and talk about politics? 

Crickets. 

[TimHauck 3,172]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re overlooking two important points here: 

1. The head of the FCC went on the air, said he wanted Kimmel removed, and then said we can do this the easy way or the hard way. 
 

2. Sinclair Broadcasting and so think one other group, both of whom are looking for the FCC and Trump to approve large acquisitions later this year, responded to the FCC head’s statement by immediately suspending Kimmel’s show. This in turn resulted in Disney placing Kimmel on suspension. 
 

You can continue to claim that there is no connection and the government played no role but you look ridiculous in doing so, 

Nailed it

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14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Crickets. 

Shhh.... you're not supposed to know/say that.

[thegeneral 3,417]

17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If it’s not a political show why does he have politicians on and talk about politics? 

Crickets. 

Right The Tonight Show is basically a hybrid of 60 Minutes and PBS NewsHour.

[thegeneral 3,417]

Trump sold all these ridiculous talking points out. He wants Kimmel and Fallon or anyone off the airwaves that are against him. We know because he used this exact language.

[Ron_Artest 1,925]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Crickets. 

Ask a stupid question, you're not gonna get an answer

[thegeneral 3,417]

Kimmel’s monologue is up to like 12 million views. He normally got a few hundred thousand views.

A normal person who is not deep in the bag for all things maga or blue tie will watch it and think he comes across as reasonable. 

[Mike Honcho 5,363]

I like that FCC is protecting us against liars and threatening network licences, but somehow they haven't found anything ever at Fox News.  LMAO

[thegeneral 3,417]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Ask a stupid question, you're not gonna get an answer

I love how that dude just posts random thoughts and expects people to answer immediately 

Then he gets all pissy if you do half the time. 

[Fnord 2,407]

11 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

How so? I was forced to get the vaccination and my employees weren’t? My employees worked everyday throughout Covid and were in direct contact with the public. I was forced to wear a mask and they weren’t. 

I must have a better memory of all this than most of you because it was such an intense experience.

Let's go back to the early days, when Rudy Gobert essentially shut down the NBA. That's when things really started to snowball. Very little was known about this novel virus. There were many theories that turned out to be BS, including those presented by NIH, WHO, and the CDC. That is what happens in these circumstances. We were all wearing cloth masks because they were supposed to offer some level of protection, which we later found out wasn't effective. Those were recommended because large hospitals were unable to source proper PPE for their staff members, who needed them far more than the average individual.

It took months for research to catch up with the initial recommendations and determine that some of them were ineffective. During this time, the virus became increasingly politicized as people refused to follow social distancing recommendations, claimed it was "no worse than the flu", flat refused to wear masks in public even when they were symptomatic, refused to believe it was even happening and fully embraced the BS 'lockdown" narrative, getting all pissy about their "rights being violated." It was at this point that I heard stories from coworkers about being in an ICU with a patient taking their last breaths on a ventilator while their loved one screamed at them "you're killing him! You're just getting rich while he dies!" when that was obviously bullshit. Lots of people in healthcare ended up with some level of PTSD from the ordeal.

I do not like government overreach. Or censorship. I did not and will not support gov't mandated lockdowns. But when people are ignoring public safety and putting others at risk based solely on politics, the needs of the many outweigh the indignation of the minority. And don't tell me it wasn't political. Practically universally those that defied safety recommendations were of one political stripe: yours.

I guarantee you I wore a mask for a helluva lot longer than you did. It was unpleasant, but I did what I felt was right when my actions, even inadvertent ones, could potentially kill someone. That mattered to me. It did not seem to matter for many righties.

 

 

 

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Charlie kirk didnt have a broadcast license. 

 

[thegeneral 3,417]

Just now, Mike Honcho said:

I like that FCC is protecting us against liars and threatening network licences, but somehow they haven't found anything ever at Fox News.  LMAO

But you see they are beholden to do this and that by the law! If someone lies on air

[thegeneral 3,417]

Here’s part of what Kimmel had to say about this situation:

It was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.

I don’t think there’s anything funny about it. I posted a message on Instagram on the day he was killed, sending love to his family and asking for compassion.

I meant it, and I still do. Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make, but I undestand that, to some, that felt either ill-timed or unclear, or maybe both. For those who think I did point a finger, I get why you’re upset. If the situation was reversed, there’s a good chance I’d have felt the same way.

I have many friends and family members on the “other side” who I love and remain close to even though we don’t agree on politics at all. I don’t think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone. This was a sick person who believed violence was a solution, and it isn’t, ever”

Compare this to the ramblings of our lovely Prez who makes this whole thing about himself and his grievances. He’s a creep through and through. 

[Strike 5,871]

17 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Here’s part of what Kimmel had to say about this situation:

It was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.

I don’t think there’s anything funny about it. I posted a message on Instagram on the day he was killed, sending love to his family and asking for compassion.

I meant it, and I still do. Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make, but I undestand that, to some, that felt either ill-timed or unclear, or maybe both. For those who think I did point a finger, I get why you’re upset. If the situation was reversed, there’s a good chance I’d have felt the same way.

I have many friends and family members on the “other side” who I love and remain close to even though we don’t agree on politics at all. I don’t think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone. This was a sick person who believed violence was a solution, and it isn’t, ever”

Compare this to the ramblings of our lovely Prez who makes this whole thing about himself and his grievances. He’s a creep through and through. 

So, no apology.   He's a POS.

[Herbivore 1,158]

28 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I love how that dude just posts random thoughts and expects people to answer immediately 

Then he gets all pissy if you do half the time. 

like he has made some great point. funny that tbay jumped in to back him. anything to get away from the nonsense he was posting in this thread.