Woman shot in the face during 'ICE-related shooting' in Minneapolis

[Fireballer 2,699]

4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It would be nice to get everyone out of their silos. 

Imo the driver panicked. She has no record, no history of violence. She was married to a vet & has 3 kids at home. It looks to me like Southern (the 2nd agent) grabs at her door while she’s waiting for her GF to get in, & rather than have her unlock the doors (which let Southern in) GF shouts ‘drive’ & that’s when it all happens. 

Imo Ross pulls his gun after he sees Good turning her wheel to exit. I guess Fireball’s point is Ross must’ve thought she was turning at him. 

My point is that her accelerating the car with the cop in front of her got her shot.  Her actually striking him substantiates that.  It doesn’t matter  if the end result was him suffering injuries or not.  I think he drew in reaction to her attempting forward movement, which happened to be when her wheels were pointed approx 11:00, even though that eventually appears to be part of an attempt to point her wheels extreme right. 
 I don’t disagree that she was trying to flee.  I don't think she slammed the gas and thought “I got you now”. I think she was caught doing something she thought was cute, got deeper than intended, and thought she would drive away and do nothing more than thumb her nose at the cops from a distance and post her footage online and get massive kudos from her comrades. I’m guessing it never occurred to her that she was driving a 2 ton deadly weapon.   But none of that takes away how things played out. 

[Horseman 2,822]

2 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

This is kind of the point.  People are expecting perfection in judgment in a split second from an agent who sees a vehicle moving forward and making contact with him. He's aware that she is intentionally agitating them, in that split second people are placing the burden of knowing her intent on him as to whether she intends to strike him head on or turn away and make contact that way.  He has no way to know that. 

It's sad it ended up the way it did, but the point is when you put yourself in the path of officers and try to disrupt them in the line of duty you put yourself into harm's way.  The more people do this and call for more acts like this, the more of these we are going to see.  The most well intentioned officer can't know whether this is someone wanting to just pull away or whether this is someone who was in the NY protest last night chanting "Save a Life, Kill an ICE".  While people are free to protest, when you align yourself with that kind of movement and then instigate an altercation, immediately that officer is going to be on guard and wondering if your intention is the worst.  Any sudden movement or act could easily end as this did.

Except the sad part.  

[Frozenbeernuts 2,540]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes which we already knew.  What does this video show in defense of the officer that we didn’t already know?  Nothing IMO and if anything it hurts his case.

Loser take

[thegeneral 3,801]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Don't want to wait for more to come out? LOL

Final answer: Officers shouldnt do their job when it gets dangerous. They should just let the criminals go.  

How was this dangerous? Get your car out of the snow (still haven’t seen how they were stuck is this still a thing) take down the info and drive around her .

[jonmx 2,494]

Just now, weepaws said:

They are trained to make perfect judgments in a split second, that officer did, in a split second he pulled his weapon and murdered her. 

No human is expected to make perfect judgements.  You would think an alleged self-proclaimed Christian might understand humans are not perfect except in Christ.  But you throw that away because of beloved politics. CONGRATS. 

[Horseman 2,822]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

How was this dangerous? Get your car out of the snow (still haven’t seen how they were stuck is this still a thing) take down the info and drive around her .

[thegeneral 3,801]

Just now, Horseman said:

Good answer!

[Frozenbeernuts 2,540]

12 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/videos-contradict-trump-account-fatal-ice-shooting-minneapolis-rcna253107

Trump lied. 

He could tell MAGA the sky is red, and MAGA would look up at the blue sky and exclaim, "You know, the sky indeed is red!"

This is how dumb and brainwashed MAGA has become.

I post findings from a Trump-stacked Supreme Court ruling, and MAGAs still can't process that this situation was terribly handled and nowhere near proper procedure.

You lose. Again

[Horseman 2,822]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Good answer!

Read the thread. Watch the video. Educate yourself on rules of engagement.  Whatever it takes. I'm not going to explain it to a retard over and over again. 

[cyclone24 1,963]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

How was this dangerous? Get your car out of the snow (still haven’t seen how they were stuck is this still a thing) take down the info and drive around her .

JFC… yeah that’s the problem. Not that they were their agitating clearly not obeying law orders. No the problem isn’t. They were harassing people doing their jobs that any rational person would say needs to be done. The problem was why didn’t they just drive around the obstacles they keep leaving out for them.

Liberal delusion is something incredible.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,540]

She obstructed justice then resisted arrest. She also assaulted a police officer with a vehicle. This is as cut and dry as it gets. I dare any liberal loser to prove me wrong.

[Horseman 2,822]

1 minute ago, cyclone24 said:

JFC… yeah that’s the problem. Not that they were their agitating clearly not obeying law orders. No the problem isn’t. They were harassing people doing their jobs that any rational person would say needs to be done. The problem was why didn’t they just drive around the obstacles they keep leaving out for them.

Liberal delusion is something incredible.

[thegeneral 3,801]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Read the thread. Watch the video. Educate yourself on rules of engagement.  Whatever it takes. I'm not going to explain it to a retard over and over again. 

You are incapable of explaining anything. You fall back into a corner and get all spastic too quickly.

Please don’t become a cop! You don’t have the proper temperament for that job.

[jonmx 2,494]

6 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

My point is that her accelerating the car with the cop in front of her got her shot.  Her actually striking him substantiates that.  It doesn’t matter  if the end result was him suffering injuries or not.  I think he drew in reaction to her attempting forward movement, which happened to be when her wheels were pointed approx 11:00, even though that eventually appears to be part of an attempt to point her wheels extreme right. 
 I don’t disagree that she was trying to flee.  I don't think she slammed the gas and thought “I got you now”. I think she was caught doing something she thought was cute, got deeper than intended, and thought she would drive away and do nothing more than thumb her nose at the cops from a distance and post her footage online and get massive kudos from her comrades. I’m guessing it never occurred to her that she was driving a 2 ton deadly weapon.   But none of that takes away how things played out. 

Only flagpoles are deadly weapons, not cars to idiots.  People killed by flagpoles in the US last year....Zero.  People killed by cars...40k. 

[Horseman 2,822]

Breaking News 

Autopsy report complete!

 

 

 

 

 

Death by Liberal Delusion 

[jonmx 2,494]

Just now, thegeneral said:

You are incapable of explaining anything. You fall back into a corner and get all spastic too quickly.

Please don’t become a cop! You don’t have the proper temperament for that job.

And if you became a cop?.  You have zero concept of how self-defense works and you will not last in this world long. 

[thegeneral 3,801]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

She obstructed justice then resisted arrest. She also assaulted a police officer with a vehicle. This is as cut and dry as it gets. I dare any liberal loser to prove me wrong.

It’s the same thing over and over again

She put herself into this position, the cop won’t be charged. The cops showed poor judgment. You won’t acknowledge it but your same reasoning would have had hundreds killed on Jan 6th. These things don’t line up.

[thegeneral 3,801]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Breaking News 

Autopsy report complete!

 

 

 

 

 

Death by Liberal Delusion 

You are the worst at humor. Not Peefoam level but it’s close. 

[thegeneral 3,801]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

And if you became a cop?.  You have zero concept of how self-defense works and you will not last in this world long. 

Easy Officer Jon. Stand down!!

[TimHauck 3,516]

19 minutes ago, Strike said:

1)  When someone says "all day" it basically means from the beginning of the day until the current time. One doesn't have to wait until 11:59 PM to use the term "all day" when describing events.

2)  The reports are that these people had been following ICE "for hours."  There may be a bit of an exaggeration there if this happened at 9:30 AM I suppose.  I wasn't aware it was that early in the day but I'll take your word for it. But the point is, and the reports are, that these people had been following ICE.  The larger point is that it wasn't like they all just happened on each other and this was an isolated incident.

Lol c’mon “all day” clearly implies several hours at least, at best this was like one. 

16 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

I mean, I can change it to all morning if that helps but it doesn’t really change anything. And I’m guessing it’s not the first day they were doing it. They’re pretty clearly seems to be some acknowledgment, knowing who they are.

You are welcome to guess, but your prior post did not indicate that.  I know for sure Strike would call me out if I did something like that.  Also it’s been reported that Ms Good lived in this particular neighborhood. Was DHS canvassing the same seemingly middle class neighborhood two days in a row?  Surely with the number of agents they had they could have covered that area in a day. 

[FrancieFootball 344]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

It’s the same thing over and over again

She put herself into this position, the cop won’t be charged. The cops showed poor judgment. You won’t acknowledge it but your same reasoning would have had hundreds killed on Jan 6th. These things don’t line up.

Doubling down on lies is what the Lennies do.

[jonmx 2,494]

The same idiots who thought Rittenhouse was a massive murderer despite clear evidence they were attempt to kill him now think this was not self-defense.   You can not fix indoctrination. 

[TimHauck 3,516]

6 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

She obstructed justice then resisted arrest. She also assaulted a police officer with a vehicle. This is as cut and dry as it gets. I dare any liberal loser to prove me wrong.

Resisting arrest?  When did they ever say she was under arrest?  

[Ron_Artest 2,690]

13 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

My point is that her accelerating the car with the cop in front of her got her shot.  Her actually striking him substantiates that.  It doesn’t matter  if the end result was him suffering injuries or not.  I think he drew in reaction to her attempting forward movement, which happened to be when her wheels were pointed approx 11:00, even though that eventually appears to be part of an attempt to point her wheels extreme right. 
 I don’t disagree that she was trying to flee.  I don't think she slammed the gas and thought “I got you now”. I think she was caught doing something she thought was cute, got deeper than intended, and thought she would drive away and do nothing more than thumb her nose at the cops from a distance and post her footage online and get massive kudos from her comrades. I’m guessing it never occurred to her that she was driving a 2 ton deadly weapon.   But none of that takes away how things played out. 

Do you think he needed to shoot her or could he have gotten out of the way and let her live?

[thegeneral 3,801]

8 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

JFC… yeah that’s the problem. Not that they were their agitating clearly not obeying law orders. No the problem isn’t. They were harassing people doing their jobs that any rational person would say needs to be done. The problem was why didn’t they just drive around the obstacles they keep leaving out for them.

Liberal delusion is something incredible.

What would be the problem with taking down the info and driving around them? Like the other cars were doing. From a matter of self preservation don’t stand in front of a running car.

What crime were they trying to stop here that was worth this?

[Cloaca du jour 2,170]

4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Spicy chat on the ceramics board!

I had a cousin who needed some fiesta ware identified so I posted some pics on it. Lol

[thegeneral 3,801]

3 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

I had a cousin who needed some fiesta ware identified so I posted some pics on it. Lol

No shame. I get advice on plants on a board

What’s a fiesta?

[Frozenbeernuts 2,540]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

It’s the same thing over and over again

She put herself into this position, the cop won’t be charged. The cops showed poor judgment. You won’t acknowledge it but your same reasoning would have had hundreds killed on Jan 6th. These things don’t line up.

She scared the cop by putting the suv into drive toward him abruptly. I wojld say he acted according to his training. How does it feel to lose?

[Frozenbeernuts 2,540]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Resisting arrest?  When did they ever say she was under arrest?  

They told her to get out of the car. It will be counted. If a cop says please step out of the car, and you take off, they will hit you with resisting arrest. How does it feel to lose?

[thegeneral 3,801]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

She scared the cop by putting the suv into drive toward him abruptly. I wojld say he acted according to his training. How does it feel to lose?

For me the question isn’t if he should or will be charged. It’s the same thing on repeat.

Except no answer from you on the Capitol and how that went compared to this. Why weren’t people blasted in the face. Would you and the other freaks on here who find this so great be jizzing yourselves about that. Isn’t that a little odd to you?

Also no response on what crime was committed here that escalated to this. Name calling and a car in the street? Crazy to me. She didn’t just rob a bank in a shootout

[thegeneral 3,801]

6 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

She scared the cop by putting the suv into drive toward him abruptly. I wojld say he acted according to his training. How does it feel to lose?

Standing in front of a running car to stop this level of crime is a very odd choice to me. That’s more of a common sense thing I suppose.

[Fireballer 2,699]

14 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Do you think he needed to shoot her or could he have gotten out of the way and let her live?

What do you mean “needed” to?

[cyclone24 1,963]

16 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

What would be the problem with taking down the info and driving around them? Like the other cars were doing. From a matter of self preservation don’t stand in front of a running car.

What crime were they trying to stop here that was worth this?

You mean other than obstructing federal agents, and driving your vehicle at an agent? Both of which are felonies. 
 

The liberal logic is bizarre. You have federal agents that are lawfully enforcing laws on the books. They have to come into the communities because you didn’t want to go get them.

so liberals harass them and assault them… why is the option for you guys never go talk to your congressman, protest peacefully. He turns violent all the time, but that never seems to be one of the options. It’s all these hurdles that common sense laws get enforced have to go through.

[Engorgeous George 2,347]

2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

You ever see or read No Country for Old Men? There’s a scene where the sheriff talks about how even in a contest between man & steer nothing is certain. I sort of feel like that’s what’s happened here. But also in general yes there’s a forlorn sense of modern society run amok.

You know if you had told me 20 years ago I would see children with green hair and bones in their noses walking the streets of our Texas Towns .....

[thegeneral 3,801]

Just now, cyclone24 said:

You mean other than obstructing federal agents, and driving your vehicle at an agent? Both of which are felonies. 
 

The liberal logic is bizarre. You have federal agents that are lawfully enforcing laws on the books. They have to come into the communities because you didn’t want to go get them.

so liberals harass them and assault them… why is the option for you guys never go talk to your congressman, protest peacefully. He turns violent all the time, but that never seems to be one of the options. It’s all these hurdles that common sense laws get enforced have to go through.

The obstruction of officers was a car parked partially blocking the road and some ladies saying mean things. I get this is dumb and angering but think this escalation by these cops to be very poor judgement.

Before you start typing read this - I don’t think these cops should be charged but I don’t think they are the right people for this work. 

[nobody 2,976]

44 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

This is kind of the point.  People are expecting perfection in judgment in a split second from an agent who sees a vehicle moving forward and making contact with him. He's aware that she is intentionally agitating them, in that split second people are placing the burden of knowing her intent on him as to whether she intends to strike him head on or turn away and make contact that way.  He has no way to know that. 

It's sad it ended up the way it did, but the point is when you put yourself in the path of officers and try to disrupt them in the line of duty you put yourself into harm's way.  The more people do this and call for more acts like this, the more of these we are going to see.  The most well intentioned officer can't know whether this is someone wanting to just pull away or whether this is someone who was in the NY protest last night chanting "Save a Life, Kill an ICE".  While people are free to protest, when you align yourself with that kind of movement and then instigate an altercation, immediately that officer is going to be on guard and wondering if your intention is the worst.  Any sudden movement or act could easily end as this did.

Her parents should've had "the talk" with her.

[weepaws 3,472]

40 minutes ago, jonmx said:

No human is expected to make perfect judgements.  You would think an alleged self-proclaimed Christian might understand humans are not perfect except in Christ.  But you throw that away because of beloved politics. CONGRATS. 

You missed it again, he made a split second decision, when she backup, he pulled out his murder weapon, and then an another split second he made the judgement to shot and murder her.  

[Ron_Artest 2,690]

11 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

What do you mean “needed” to?

Did shooting her in the face save his life or the lives of others?  Did it quell the danger he felt?

[BrahmaBulls 1,008]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Do you think about this a lot?

About 1/100th the amount you think about genitals and peefoam.  Don't think this one will end well for you.

[nobody 2,976]

50 minutes ago, Strike said:

Listen to this guy:

https://x.com/KimKatieUSA/status/2009693707948462535?s=20

Prime death pool candidate.  Looks fairly young too.  Probably over 60 points there.