Random Youtuber Now Admits Buffalo Bills Overtime Pass Was A Catch, NOT Denver Broncos Interception

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Yes.  But if we are paying refs or some dork in NY to review plays in slow mo and come up with 2 different calls...

Then its not a fan or player problem not understanding the rules.  The league clearly doesnt know what a catch is.  Point is you cant have 2 different calls fotlr the same stuff, especially when you are focking looking at a review.   

 

That's the problem with trying to dissect a bang bang play with 1/200th of a second slow motion review.  Sometimes you just look at a play and say "that was X."  Because it was X, and dissecting it and saying "well the ball was teetering ever so slightly so it's not a catch" is bullsh*t.  In this case, two guys had their hands on the ball when they went to the ground and one guy came up with the ball.  That guy made the catch.  He was on the defensive team.  Therefore, interception.  People are overthinking it.

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Cooks was down.  Many shots of a knee down.  Whats different?  Adams made a football move?  Thats a football move yet a guy can drop a ball after 2 steps and they call in incomplete not a fumble?  

He didn't have full control of the ball.  It didn't matter if his knee was down.  He needed to maintain possession of the ball and he didn't, just like every other catch.

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12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He didn't have full control of the ball.  It didn't matter if his knee was down.  He needed to maintain possession of the ball and he didn't, just like every other catch.

You should watch the plays again.  They didnt both have the ball.  The defender isnt 50 50 grabbing it until Cooks was contacted and down.  You cant just touch part of the ball as a defender while the we has 2 hands on it and claim both had it.  He rolled over and took it after Cooks os down. 

Doesn't have to be a catch but not much different than Adams.  Certainly no different than Worthy in last years playoffs.  

Adams maintained possession?  Or are you trying to say Cooks never had it really?  Plenty of shots looks like he certainly does.  

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

You should watch the plays again.  They didnt both have the ball.  The defender isnt 50 50 grabbing it until Cooks was contacted and down.  You cant just touch part of the ball as a defender while the we has 2 hands on it and claim both had it.  He rolled over and took it after Cooks os down. 

Doesn't have to be a catch but not much different than Adams.  Certainly no different than Worthy in last years playoffs.  

Adams maintained possession?  Or are you trying to say Cooks never had it really?  Plenty of shots looks like he certainly does.  

Once again, if the ball came out and landed on the ground instead of being ripped out, it would have been called incomplete.  Instead, the defender held onto the ball and completed the catch.  Cooks never had full possession of the ball in order to call it a catch.

The defender has his arm and hand between the ball and Cooks' chest the entire time as well.

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3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Adams maintained possession?

Adams caught the ball before he went down.  That's the difference.  He established possession then went to the ground.  Once his knee hit the ground the play was over.

Cooks never had full possession when he went to the ground and did not hold on in order to finish the process of completing the catch.

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Once again, if the ball came out and landed on the ground instead of being ripped out, it would have been called incomplete.  Instead, the defender held onto the ball and completed the catch.  Cooks never had full possession of the ball in order to call it a catch.

The defender has his arm and hand between the ball and Cooks' chest the entire time as well.

Still shots show him.with possession touched and down. 

Im not going to argue about it.  I dont agree.  If thats not a catch thats fine. But neither was thr Adams play or the Worthy play last year.  

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Adams caught the ball before he went down.  That's the difference.  He established possession then went to the ground.  Once his knee hit the ground the play was over.

Cooks never had full possession when he went to the ground and did not hold on in order to finish the process of completing the catch.

Why didnt he have full possession?  Because thr defender stuck his hands in late?  Hes literally holding onto the ball down.  

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

with possession touched and down. 

We've know for years that's not enough when going to the ground.  If he had possession before he went down then it would be completely different.

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

Why didnt he have full possession?  Because thr defender stuck his hands in late?  Hes literally holding onto the ball down.  

Didn't complete the process.  If not, then a player could have two hands on the ball for a fraction of a second and it would be a catch as long as he is down.  That's why they have these rules, to prove possession through the whole process of a catch.  According to the rules, it was not a completed catch.

Let's say you were on a knee while receiving a pass and the defender swats it out of your hands directly after it stops between your palms. Would you call that a catch or incompletion? Your argument says yes because you possessed the ball while being down before the defender knocked it out.

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Hawkeyes has been wrong more in 1 thread than the Tims in all of 2025

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Ill reiterate, it doesnt have to be a catch.   But we need consistency especially when you get to use slow motion replay to make calls.  

No one likes Sherman, but hes a DB.  

I have never seen a contested catch like this ever be called anything but a catch. Even as a DB you know that if it’s even a Tie it will go to the WR. Can’t believe this decided the game. https://t.co/EfrzgvSdcj

— Richard Sherman (@RSherman_25) January 18, 2026

Dan Orlovsky, who spent seven years in the NFL before joining ESPN, claimed the play should have been ruled "a catch every time."

 

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6 minutes ago, edjr said:

Hawkeyes has been wrong more in 1 thread than the Tims in all of 2025

How have I been wrong?

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4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

How have I been wrong?

 

10 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Ill reiterate, it doesnt have to be a catch.   But we need consistency especially when you get to use slow motion replay to make calls.  

No one likes Sherman, but hes a DB.  

I have never seen a contested catch like this ever be called anything but a catch. Even as a DB you know that if it’s even a Tie it will go to the WR. Can’t believe this decided the game. https://t.co/EfrzgvSdcj

— Richard Sherman (@RSherman_25) January 18, 2026

Dan Orlovsky, who spent seven years in the NFL before joining ESPN, claimed the play should have been ruled "a catch every time."

 

 

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1 minute ago, edjr said:

 

 

You didn't explain how I was wrong.

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6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

You didn't explain how I was wrong.

it is 2026 my friend. My opinion is right and that is all that matters  

I dunno man. I didn't get much sleep this long weekend. I am running on fumes

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Just now, edjr said:

it is 2026 my friend. My opinion is right and that is all that matters  

I dunno man. I didn't get much sleep this long weekend. I am running on fumes

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1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I have yet to find where the NFL came out and said the call was incorrect.  Can you provide this?

He can't because they didn't 

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18 minutes ago, Thornton Melon said:

He can't because they didn't 

Someone on youtube said it. Enough for me. 

[seafoam1 3,622]

 This is a thing about football that will never go away. The play was so muddled there will be one side unhappy with the call no matter what. It's impossible to make these calls. 

They will never say, "we can't make a call on it because both sides have a valid argument to the ball so we are just going to replay the down."

To me it looked like the defender fought with the receiver for the ball and got it cleanly. But that was just seeing the play in live action. This is part of the game everyone just has to learn to deal with. 

These things only bother me if there is a very clear cut answer on a replay but yet still get it wrong. 

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50 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

 This is a thing about football that will never go away. The play was so muddled there will be one side unhappy with the call no matter what. It's impossible to make these calls. 

They will never say, "we can't make a call on it because both sides have a valid argument to the ball so we are just going to replay the down."

To me it looked like the defender fought with the receiver for the ball and got it cleanly. But that was just seeing the play in live action. This is part of the game everyone just has to learn to deal with. 

These things only bother me if there is a very clear cut answer on a replay but yet still get it wrong. 

IMO they should just get rid of replay reviews. Just leave it up to the humans. I’ve seen too many times where replay shows they got it wrong but the refs won’t change their call anyway.

It’s just a way to get a few more commercials into the broadcast.

Of course, I realize there’s no way to put the genie back in the bottle, but I really don’t think replay review has improved the sport.

Bills should have been up by 2 TDs at the end if they weren’t messing around doing stupid crap in the first half. They were the better team on O and D, and only their own mistakes cost them.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,283]

The Bills had 30 seconds with no timeouts before the half. The only way they score is a chunk play and spike it. No way Deon Dawkins makes it to the line in time.  It was stupid to try. But that’s what all the cool kids are doing. 

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3 minutes ago, dogcows said:

IMO they should just get rid of replay reviews. Just leave it up to the humans. I’ve seen too many times where replay shows they got it wrong but the refs won’t change their call anyway.

It’s just a way to get a few more commercials into the broadcast.

Of course, I realize there’s no way to put the genie back in the bottle, but I really don’t think replay review has improved the sport.

Bills should have been up by 2 TDs at the end if they weren’t messing around doing stupid crap in the first half. They were the better team on O and D, and only their own mistakes cost them.

The Bills had a brutal hold in the end zone that wasn't called in OT. Game should of ended right there with a safety. 

Don't cry 

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17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The Bills had 30 seconds with no timeouts before the half. The only way they score is a chunk play and spike it. No way Deon Dawkins makes it to the line in time.  It was stupid to try. But that’s what all the cool kids are doing. 

Yep, if they just knelt that ball like they should have, they wouldn’t have been at the mercy of the refs. Made some other dumb mistakes too, but as usual this year they made up for them in the 2nd half. If they could have a new coach for the first half and then bring McDermott for the 2nd half of games, there’d be no stopping the Bills  

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2 minutes ago, League Champion said:

The Bills had a brutal hold in the end zone that wasn't called in OT. Game should of ended right there with a safety. 

Don't cry 

I think the inconsistency of penalty call (yay or nay) is a way bigger problem for all games when talking about good or bad officiating.

I'll give a guy credit if he can get away with a small hold or what have you if they hide it from the refs and later you can see it on replay but it's a no call, or put down some player who makes dumb penalties away from the play and gets flagged for them.

But some I don't know how they get missed. Caleb Williams as he was following through on a pass got belted in the head by a d-lineman that I don't know how that didn't get called, same as when a targeted receiver gets mugged by the defense like you refer to. 

If refs get something wrong that's really close, too bad. But blatant stuff? That's sucks. 

 

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26 minutes ago, dogcows said:

IMO they should just get rid of replay reviews. Just leave it up to the humans. I’ve seen too many times where replay shows they got it wrong but the refs won’t change their call anyway.

It’s just a way to get a few more commercials into the broadcast.

Of course, I realize there’s no way to put the genie back in the bottle, but I really don’t think replay review has improved the sport.

Bills should have been up by 2 TDs at the end if they weren’t messing around doing stupid crap in the first half. They were the better team on O and D, and only their own mistakes cost them.

It is crazy to me that so many people can see the same thing and have 2 different opinions. Since the Megaton play, the NFL still can't figure out WTF a catch is.

The thing that is focked up thing, no one knows what the fock "irrefutable evidence" is

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1 minute ago, dogcows said:

Yep, if they just knelt that ball like they should have, they wouldn’t have been at the mercy of the refs. Made some other dumb mistakes too, but as usual this year they made up for them in the 2nd half. If they could have a new coach for the first half and then bring McDermott for the 2nd half of games, there’d be no stopping the Bills  

The Bills are just cursed for some reason. 

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1 minute ago, edjr said:

It is crazy to me that so many people can see the same thing and have 2 different opinions. Since the Megaton play, the NFL still can't figure out WTF a catch is.

The thing that is focked up thing, no one know what the fock "irrefutable evidence" is

Especially when refs’ egos get involved and they decide “it’s not clear and overwhelming” evidence to them.

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6 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Especially when refs’ egos get involved and they decide “it’s not clear and overwhelming” evidence to them.

If refs could just get all the obvious stuff correct, that's all I ask for anymore. 

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3 hours ago, edjr said:

  You do realize the NFL has come out and said the call was incorrect?

 

3 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

I watched the video, saw that made different rulings in other games, but exactly where did the NFL admit to being wrong? 

 

3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I have yet to find where the NFL came out and said the call was incorrect.  Can you provide this?

 

1 hour ago, Thornton Melon said:

He can't because they didn't 

lol @edjr fell for fake news again, what a dummy

[League Champion 1,960]

Stop crying Bills Fans 

The Bills had a brutal hold in the end zone that wasn't called in OT. Game should of ended right there with a safety. 

Don't cry 

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I remember the days when there were no replays. You just had to accept the calls, period. 

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I flash back to Green Bay v. Seattle.  

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19 hours ago, edjr said:

it is 2026 my friend. My opinion is right and that is all that matters  

I dunno man. I didn't get much sleep this long weekend. I am running on fumes

You finished the whole ball in one weekend, didn't you? Did you at least share some?

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You finished the whole ball in one weekend, didn't you? Did you at least share some?

24 hours

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Just now, edjr said:

24 hours

All by yourself? Fuuuuuuccckkk. No wonder you're tired. Dial it back a bit, boss.

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I love this for Bills fans

[Hawkeye21 2,482]

Kurt Warner seems to be the only ex-player that gets how the catch rules work and he explains it well.

It’s actually not by the definition of a catch “when going to the ground”, which is the KEY component of this play! If Cooks is NOT deemed going to the ground then you are correct it’s a catch & touched down without a doubt! But when deemed going to the ground, I still have questions on how exactly that is determined, which he is here, he MUST complete the catch until the play is over: Survive the ground! I do believe he very well might “survive the ground” here but B4 he gets the opp to do that the defender takes the ball from him & is the one who ends up with the ball at the end of the play! Thus, with the ball never touching the ground, must be called in INT!

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20 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

 

lol @edjr fell for fake news again, what a dummy

lol at @edjr

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2 hours ago, Fnord said:

All by yourself? Fuuuuuuccckkk. No wonder you're tired. Dial it back a bit, boss.

With a girl, she aint do as much as me. I am like snuffleupagus