nearly half of dipshiat teabaggers pay ZERO federal taxes

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http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archiv...me-taxes/38924/

 

more hilarity

 

what the fock you protesting, teabaggers? you want uncle sam to GIVE you money now?

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Yeah, highly credible article:

 

Despite this author's lack of direct access to the tax returns of the Tea Party movement, it seems safe to assume that if about half the country avoids federal income taxes, a similar percentage of the Tea Party movement gets away with the same even as they march and scream about their tax burden.

 

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They are the demographics of people who told Gallup they consider themselves to be a "supporter...of the tea party movement," as opposed to an "opponent," or "neither." It's one thing to tell a Gallup pollster that you support something; it's another to show up at a rally and hold a sign, or chant, or just be there in the crowd to oppose the agenda of President Obama and the TARP bailout initiated under President Bush. Gallup's poll is as much a test of the "Tea Party" brand as it is of the movement itself.

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Yeah, highly credible article:

 

ah, so the movement is made up of rich educated people who pay too much in taxes. silly me!

 

if you stupid focks hang your hat on that brilliant logic i've got a front-row seat to a palin speech to sell you

[Saint Elistan 106]

How stupid can you (and the author of this article) be?

 

The subject matter is based off of this AP article.

About 47% will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions, and exemptions to eliminate their liability. Most people still are required to file returns by the April 15 deadline, but for many it's advisable anyway, since doing so just means collecting a big refund. Note that most people who escape federal income taxes still pay Social Security, Medicare, or state taxes.

It seems to me that the entirety of this "revelation" that 47% of Americans don't "pay federal income taxes" stems from the fact that they get a tax refund when they file. That doesn't mean they don't pay taxes, dipsh!t. That just means that they paid more taxes than they were required to. I don't know about you, but I have never, ever had to pay when I filed. I've also never, ever got back anywhere close to what I paid in; a majority of which goes to Social Security and Medicare...of which I'll never be able to benefit from. Yet this guy interprets this data as 47% of American's don't pay any federal taxes? Which he goes on to slap onto the Tea Party movement as a "gotcha" retort since he's insulted that they claim to be real, average Americans?

 

And you read this article and didn't think he was off-his-rocker-retarded? Seriously, how much of a hack can you be?

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Great job starting a thread that proves the Tea Party movement represents America.......that it isn't some fringe movement.

 

This thread didn't go the way you expected, did it Swampie?

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I don't think I need to read any of the above to point out that harf the people in the country pay no federal taxes already,

therefore wouldn't the tea party peeps be a good representation of the people?

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MORE idiocy: 98% of people who donate to Jerry Lewis' Labor Day telethon don't even have muscular dystrophy! Uh, hello? Morons? What are you looking for, here? Some sort of negative muscular dystrophy for yourselves? You know that's impossible, right?

You can't make this stuff up!

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NEW YORK - Tea party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public, tend to be Republican, white, male, and married, and their strong opposition to the Obama administration is more rooted in political ideology than anxiety about their personal economic situation, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

 

The 18 percent of Americans who identify themselves as Tea Party supporters look like Republicans in many ways, but they hold more conservative views on a range of issues and tend to be older than Republicans generally. They are also more likely than Republicans as a whole to describe themselves as “very conservative” and President Obama as “very liberal.”

 

And while most Republicans say they are “dissatisfied” with Washington, Tea Party supporters are more likely to classify themselves as “angry.”

 

In some ways, Tea Party supporters look like the general public. For instance, despite their allusions to Revolutionary War-era tax protesters, most describe the amount they paid in taxes this year as “fair.” Most send their children to public schools, do not think Sarah Palin is qualified to be president, and, despite their push for smaller government, think that Social Security and Medicare are worth the cost. They are actually more likely than the general public to have returned their census forms, despite some conservative leaders urging a boycott.

 

Their fierce animosity toward Washington, and the president in particular, is rooted in deep pessimism about the direction of the country and the conviction that the policies of the Obama administration are disproportionately directed at helping the poor rather than the middle class or the rich.

 

Asked what they are angry about, Tea Party supporters offered three main concerns: the recent health care overhaul, government spending, and a feeling that their opinions are not represented in Washington.

 

Tea Party supporters are also more likely than most Americans to believe, mistakenly, that the president has increased taxes for most Americans.

“I just feel he’s getting away from what America is,” said Kathy Mayhugh, 67, a retired medical transcriber in Jacksonville. “He’s a socialist. And to tell you the truth I think he’s a Muslim and trying to head us in that direction, I don’t care what he says. He’s been in office over a year and can’t find a church to go to. That doesn’t say much for him.”

 

Still, while they overwhelmingly disapprove of Congress, 4 in 10 Tea Party supporters, like most Americans, approve of the job their own representative is doing.

 

They do not want a third party, and say they usually or almost always vote Republican. The percentage holding a favorable opinion of former president George W. Bush — at 57 percent — almost exactly matches the percentage in the general public that holds an unfavorable view.

 

Dee Close, a 47-year-old homemaker in Memphis, said she was worried about a “drift” in the country. “Over the last 3 or 4 years I’ve realized how immense that drift has been away from what made this country great,” she said. “I’m angry because I feel that those who are elected hijack the country once they are elected to positions of power.”

 

She blamed Americans for being apathetic. “Most people are not even aware of how gullible they are,” she said. “They’re not educated enough to know what’s going on.”

 

Yet while the Tea Party supporters are more conservative than Republicans on social issues, they do not want to focus on those issues: about 8 in 10 say that they are more concerned with economic issues.

 

When talking about the Tea Party movement, the largest number of respondents said that the goal should be reducing the size of government, more than cutting the budget deficit, or lowering taxes.

 

And nearly three quarters said they would prefer smaller government even if it means spending on domestic programs would be cut.

 

Others defended being on Social Security while fighting big government by saying they had paid into the system, so deserved the benefits.

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36528044/ns/po...ew_york_times//

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we have HOPE to guide us! Cause this is what HOPE looks like!

[KSB2424 3,086]

Okay, I'm confused. First I was told the Tea Party Movement was full of rich white racists. Now swampy is telling me the party demographic is the exact same as the country.

 

Well which is it?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Okay, I'm confused. First I was told the Tea Party Movement was full of rich white racists. Now swampy is telling me the party demographic is the exact same as the country.

 

Well which is it?

 

Whichever makes them look worse or whichever he wants to use to bash at the time.

Hint...swampy is not very bright...though he pretends to be.

But hey...he claimed to pay more taxes than I gross so...

[swamp dog 0]

Whichever makes them look worse or whichever he wants to use to bash at the time.

Hint...swampy is not very bright...though he pretends to be.

But hey...he claimed to pay more taxes than I gross so...

 

okay, let's try this: how much federal tax do you end up paying after filing taxes? is that a better question for you?

 

i know recliner doesn't pay shiat (he's some sort of cab driver) and probably makes money at the end of the year.

 

so...all you teabaggers (or sympathizers)....what do you pay in federal taxes? if 50 percent of the taxpayers pay zero...are you suggesting that the teaparty is made up of the other 50 percent who do pay taxes?

 

stop spinning and answer some focking questions for once

[KSB2424 3,086]

so...all you teabaggers (or sympathizers)....what do you pay in federal taxes? if 50 percent of the taxpayers pay zero...are you suggesting that the teaparty is made up of the other 50 percent who do pay taxes?

 

stop spinning and answer some focking questions for once

I have no idea what the Tea Party demographic really is. Since it is more of a grass roots movement I would assume it is hard to quanitfy. However all I kept hearing prior to your thread was that it was almost exclusively middle class to wealthy white older (40-60) folks who are radical and racists. That's what you guys have been telling me. As an assumption that would mean that if the movement was like that, a vast majority of them are part of the 53% countrywide that do in fact pay taxes.

 

Now you are telling me the Tea Party demographic is just like the rest of the country and not like that at all.

 

I'm trying to figure out which is it?

[Sho Nuff 720]

okay, let's try this: how much federal tax do you end up paying after filing taxes? is that a better question for you?

 

i know recliner doesn't pay shiat (he's some sort of cab driver) and probably makes money at the end of the year.

 

so...all you teabaggers (or sympathizers)....what do you pay in federal taxes? if 50 percent of the taxpayers pay zero...are you suggesting that the teaparty is made up of the other 50 percent who do pay taxes?

 

stop spinning and answer some focking questions for once

 

A. Im no tea party guy (nice try using "teabagger" too...surefire way to know what an immature ignorant turd you are).

B. What I pay in taxes is none of your damn business. Not my fault you tried to brag about what you pay.

C. I generally get a small return after my taxes...never much. Wife and I have figured pretty well on our exemptions so we don't get much back or don't pay much.

D. Im suggesting the tea party is basically comprised of a cross section of people that is quite representative of tax payers around the country.

E. It is obviously you who is spinning given your thread and title you idiotic tool.

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okay, let's try this: how much federal tax do you end up paying after filing taxes? is that a better question for you?

 

i know recliner doesn't pay shiat (he's some sort of cab driver) and probably makes money at the end of the year.

 

so...all you teabaggers (or sympathizers)....what do you pay in federal taxes? if 50 percent of the taxpayers pay zero...are you suggesting that the teaparty is made up of the other 50 percent who do pay taxes?

 

stop spinning and answer some focking questions for once

 

I wouldn't call myself a teabagger, unless I'm spending time with your wife, but I am a sympathizer. I do pay federal taxes, in the same boat as you, 5 figures.

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...It seems to me that the entirety of this "revelation" that 47% of Americans don't "pay federal income taxes" stems from the fact that they get a tax refund when they file. That doesn't mean they don't pay taxes, dipsh!t. That just means that they paid more taxes than they were required to...

Wrong. 47% of US households paid NO federal income tax for 2008. This doesn't mean they simply received a partial refund. It means they either paid nothing to begin with or their refund was greater than or equal to what was withheld.

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Swamps attitude is exactly the same attitude towards the Tea Party movement that the left is using. They are trying to discount them. It ain't working. Today will likely be the biggest tea party movement day on record. Both parties better take heed and give this group of people an ear, or in the liberal's case, not piss them off any more than they already are.

 

Swamp represents the dumbasses that represent us, and he's doing a fine job!

[LaChup 158]

I doubt they can get an accurate account of how much the Tea Partyers pay in taxes, but I do know that 60% of the American public doesn't. Those are the same F*&*ers who want free Healthcare. Bunch of leaches!

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It is our obligation, and we should be honored to pay more taxes to keep cloth on the backs, and feed in the bellies of all future Democrats.

[Sho Nuff 720]

more hilarity

 

The only thing you got right...hilarity of you talking politics and another swing and miss.

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SWIAFM

 

Swamp Dog Is A Focking Moron

 

 

 

 

Make it stick people

[Recliner Pilot 61]

This thread isn't going too well for ol' Swampie.

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Wrong. 47% of US households paid NO federal income tax for 2008. This doesn't mean they simply received a partial refund. It means they either paid nothing to begin with or their refund was greater than or equal to what was withheld.

 

And I'm saying it's a bullshit statistic because it doesn't include the Medicare and Social Security Slush Funds. I was on unemployment for the majority of 2009, made less than $20000 on the year and about $5,000 of it was withheld. I got a $1,900 return. I'm no math whiz, but that's still over $3,000 in taxes. It doesn't matter a lick of sh!t if that money is technically not part of my "income tax". It's still over $3,000 from this citizen (even though I was kinda like a Government Employee ) that's most likely misused; either on programs that shouldn't exist, bills that shouldn't have passed, or retirement programs that I'll never be able to benefit from because the Government already spent the money elsewhere.

[LaChup 158]

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody, anything, that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

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[Reality 2,710]

Swamp Dog Is A Focking Moron

 

 

Truer words have never been typed.

 

Ever.

[Saint Elistan 106]

Truer words have never been typed.

 

Except he spelled it SWIAFM.

[swamp dog 0]

A. Im no tea party guy (nice try using "teabagger" too...surefire way to know what an immature ignorant turd you are).

B. What I pay in taxes is none of your damn business. Not my fault you tried to brag about what you pay.

C. I generally get a small return after my taxes...never much. Wife and I have figured pretty well on our exemptions so we don't get much back or don't pay much.

D. Im suggesting the tea party is basically comprised of a cross section of people that is quite representative of tax payers around the country.

E. It is obviously you who is spinning given your thread and title you idiotic tool.

 

ah, yes, the ol "i'm above it all and don't belong to any party even though i've voted republican my entire life" and "i don't pay any taxes and never have but i sure as hell don't want to start paying my way now" routine.

 

that's rather narcissistic--and big--of you

[swamp dog 0]

It is our obligation, and we should be honored to pay more taxes to keep cloth on the backs, and feed in the bellies of all future Democrats.

 

you stiffs like sho need to START paying your way before biatching. free tip.

 

ditto recliner.

[swamp dog 0]

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody, anything, that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

 

point #4: a logical fallacy. where is it documented "half" the country expects to sit on their asses and have the other half pay for it? no, what's more realistic--and what this thread is about--is the whiny righties like the ones posting here who think they have it so bad and the gumbmint is taxing the hell out of them...and then when the smoke clears and they actually get most (if not all) their money back (because they make shiat to begin with). you know the type: they can't spell a sign right at a teabag rally but they gladly cash the gubmint's earned income credit check (or the check they get because of the earned income credit, i should say).

 

in other words, the rest of the country is carrying around their whiny, narcissistic (and in some cases racist) asses. but in their focked up fox-fueled world they think THEY are the victims paying for the rest of the country.

 

hilarity.

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We'll wait.....tuck the boy in!

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[Recliner Pilot 61]

It's truly amazing how incredibly clueless Swampie is as to just how bad he has been beaten about the head and neck for this entire thread.

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[MDC 5,934]

Our federal tax burden is today at historically low levels and they're lower since Obama took office.

 

State and local taxes are higher, because states are running massive shortfalls due mostly to the high rate of unemployment and lower tax receipts.

 

It's obviously not fair to say that half of all tea partiers are paying no taxes, but it is worth wondering why they're all PO'd at Obama over high tax rates when he actually lowered their tax burden.

 

Then again, we're talking about the loudest, dumbest sub-sect of partisan Republicans, so I don't expect much in the way of logic.