surferskin 31 Posted May 16, 2006 the early frontrunner for thread of the week -200- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted May 16, 2006 Looks like I have some catching up to do ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torridjoe 48 Posted May 16, 2006 No, that is completely untrue. Read the link that I provided, since you are so hung up on the complete links. We convict illegal aliens for entering the country illegally and they get due process. Under our immigration laws, we have the right to deport individuals or assign any other punishment applicable under our laws (Section 1325 included) for other things that they have committed. The fact that we choose to enforce the cheapest law for the crime of entering illegally (deportation) does not make the crime any less of a crime. Entering the country illegally is: - illegal - a crime - punishment requires due process - punishment can be a fine and jail along with deportation - is in addition to any other crimes that the individual may have been detained for You are focusing on the fact that the majority of the illegal aliens are found because of other crimes. That does not mean that we are not searching out others (Operation Vanguard, for example) under the provisions of the laws that I have referenced before. WTF? You just quoted the very same section back to me, which shows that "conviction" means by a JUDGE or JURY, not an administrative officer. LOL. the thing about quote manipulation, is that people who know what was said won't fall for it. And since everyone who has been reading this thread knows you backtracked on your original statement, then admitted you were wrong, and then went back to trying to defend an indefensible position, I'm pretty sure this won't have much effect but to make more people laugh at your lunacy. None of which had anything to do with the quote I manipulated. Works both ways, son. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,023 Posted May 16, 2006 Looks like I have some catching up to do ... Don't worry Rusty. You don't need to put Muhammad in his place this time. He pretty much hung himself..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 3 Posted May 16, 2006 I'd rather not get into it again. Send me a PM if you really want to know, or sign up for the sanctuary to read the thread. I tried to sign up for the sanctuary... I was denied... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted May 16, 2006 Don't worry Rusty. You don't need to put Muhammad in his place this time. He pretty much hung himself..... Yeah, the vultures have already come and gone, and there's not even enough left of the carcass to feed an ant or maggot. Although I do think this comment got tragically overlooked: It's times like this where I think that your mere existence is not a status... it's a friggin' crime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uh-huh 0 Posted May 16, 2006 You people are all suffering from "Yellow Peril" syndrome. Let them all in, I say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torridjoe 48 Posted May 16, 2006 Yeah, the vultures have already come and gone, and there's not even enough left of the carcass to feed an ant or maggot. Although I do think this comment got tragically overlooked: there's never a carcasss if no one dies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 3 Posted May 16, 2006 there's never a carcasss if no one dies. You are now Bruce Willis in Sixth Sense.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,091 Posted May 16, 2006 You are now Bruce Willis in Sixth Sense.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted May 16, 2006 there's never a carcasss if no one dies. I was speaking figuratively, cupcake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torridjoe 48 Posted May 16, 2006 I was speaking figuratively, cupcake. so was I, muffin. Or metaphorically building off your figure, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted May 16, 2006 so was I, muffin. Or metaphorically building off your figure, anyway. I was ... romantically .... hmmmm ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torridjoe 48 Posted May 16, 2006 I was ... romantically .... hmmmm ... 'd'jou stop to rub one out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted May 16, 2006 So, hey everyone, what is going on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,023 Posted May 16, 2006 So, hey everyone, what is going on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Korben Dallas 0 Posted May 16, 2006 I don't know about this, but I can tell you one thing for sure. If we kick out every immigrant all at once. WalMart will collapse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted May 16, 2006 there's never a carcasss if no one dies. torridjoe - You and you argument are both walking dead. Hell, I've had my fill of Happy Hour beers and find your position hilarious. Are you serious or just pulling our chains? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torridjoe 48 Posted May 16, 2006 torridjoe - You and you argument are both walking dead. Hell, I've had my fill of Happy Hour beers and find your position hilarious. Are you serious or just pulling our chains? why wouldn't I be serious about the truth? Undocumentedimmigrants aren't criminals, because we don't charge people for being undocumented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 16, 2006 Perhaps I copied it wrong, but I'm not lying. Which would make such an action "NOT a mistake". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torridjoe 48 Posted May 16, 2006 Which would make such an action "NOT a mistake". beg pardon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pootie Tang 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Even the illegals know it is illegal. illegal Crime & the Illegal Alien The Fallout from Crippled Immigration Enforcement June 2004 By Heather Mac Donald "Fear of immigration enforcement is not in ready evidence among the hundreds of illegal day laborers who hang out on Roosevelt Avenue in Queens, in front of money wire services, travel agencies, immigration attorney offices, and phone arcades, all catering to the local Hispanic population (as well as to drug dealers and terrorists). "There is no chance of getting caught," cheerfully explains Rafael, an Ecuadorian. Like the dozen Ecuadorians and Mexicans on his particular corner, Rafael is hoping that an SUV seeking carpenters for a $100 a day will show up soon. "We don’t worry, because we’re not doing anything wrong. I know it’s illegal, I need the papers, but here, nobody asks you for papers."" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torridjoe 48 Posted May 16, 2006 Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens. Nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 16, 2006 fixed. OK. No way is this torridjoe. He never quote manipulates. Someone borrowed his handle. Carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted May 16, 2006 OK. No way is this torridjoe. He never quote manipulates. Someone borrowed his handle. Carry on. Maybe - torridjoe, if that is you, what is your wife's name? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isotopes 1 Posted May 16, 2006 I don't know about this, but I can tell you one thing for sure. If we kick out every immigrant all at once. WalMart will collapse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted May 16, 2006 OK. No way is this torridjoe. He never quote manipulates. Someone borrowed his handle. Carry on. Re-read the entire thread. The double-speak, the backpeddling, the "never admitting your wrong despite the facts" attitude, the "that is not what I said" defense, and the pointless carrying on surely points to no one other than torrid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 16, 2006 beg pardon? Being here illegally isn't a crime. Ergo, copying something wrong isn't a mistake. Just connecting the dots. Nothing more. Carry on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted May 16, 2006 Illegal Immigrants are not illegal.........they are just sick legal immigrants. Get it?!?!?!?! ILL-egal immigrants. ILL!!!!!! POW!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 16, 2006 Re-read the entire thread. The double-speak, the backpeddling, the "never admitting your wrong despite the facts" attitude, the "that is not what I said" defense, and the pointless carrying on surely points to no one other than torrid. I still firmly believe others were borrowing torridjoe's handle at thedanzone, if not the originators of the handle itself. He behaved increasingly oddly with every passing day. And I suspect it has happened here over the years as well. And not just Fervid Ro. :tinfoilhat: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsdad 66 Posted May 16, 2006 Illegal Immigrants are not illegal.........they are just sick legal immigrants. Get it?!?!?!?! ILL-egal immigrants. ILL!!!!!! POW!!!! Day Job - Check Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,889 Posted May 16, 2006 Here's what's so dumb about this whole stupid ass thread. This big ole argument started because torrid doesn't think the term "illegal immigrants" is an explicative label, but he says that the undocumented immigrants are indeed here illegally about 50 times in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsdad 66 Posted May 17, 2006 Here's what's so dumb about this whole stupid ass thread. This big ole argument started because torrid doesn't think the term "illegal immigrants" is an explicative label, but he says that the undocumented immigrants are indeed here illegally about 50 times in this thread. Po-TAY-toe = Po-TAH-toe or as torrid might say ... Po-TAY-toe < undocumented tuber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted May 17, 2006 ....because torrid doesn't think the term "illegal immigrants" is an explicative label, but he says that the undocumented immigrants are indeed here illegally about 50 times in this thread. Funny huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,677 Posted May 17, 2006 show me where the word "deportation" appears in the law cited: "...shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both." When did the border patrol become attorneys and judges? Deportation is not part of the penalty for the crime cited. I think he finally admits it right here.^^^^ Deportation is not part of the penalty for the crime cited. Or maybe he meant for it to say: Deportation is not part of the penalty for the status cited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yanko 11 Posted May 17, 2006 Thanks for adding the summary in the title. Now I can just avoid reading the posts inside this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted May 17, 2006 Turbin has definition issues. He also claims Neighborhood Watch groups are "vigilantes". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,596 Posted May 17, 2006 Turbin has definition issues. He also claims Neighborhood Watch groups are "vigilantes". Let me be the first to say.... Pretty damn funny...If it wasn't true it would be even funnier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fervid Ro 0 Posted May 17, 2006 Re-read the entire thread. The double-speak, the backpeddling, the "never admitting your wrong despite the facts" attitude, the "that is not what I said" defense, and the pointless carrying on surely points to no one other than torrid. How do you know that I didn't log in as him a few pages ago? It's been me the whole time. couldn'tmakeitpastpage2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,491 Posted May 17, 2006 couldn'tmakeitpastpage2 Read through 3 then gave up after clicking 4 and seeing I was still a long ways off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites