At Day-Care: a nice story of homo families at play

[fastfish 0]

The four picture-story books comprising the "Learn to Include" series feature same-sex parent families. One, called Going to Fair Day, has a little girl attending a Mardi Gras "gay pride" event with her "two mums," and meeting a friend there who has "two dads." The books are designed for beginning readers aged 5-7

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So the very first book we learn to read is about how homo's are swell folk and having two mums is keen....sodomy lessons to follow when we read about the two dads?

 

Do you care what your kids are being taught at your Day-Care?

[cmh6476 1,057]

wouldnt be ok for my kids...

[surferskin 30]

is this the way lib homos are trying to recruit?

[hoffdaddy 1]

Inevitebly, these questions are going to be asked by your kids. So the question is, would you want your daycare explainin it, or would you rather handle it as a parent? Personally, I'd rather take care of this one in house.

[D_House 0]

sounds like a great day!!!

[cmh6476 1,057]

Inevitebly, these questions are going to be asked by your kids. So the question is, would you want your daycare explainin it, or would you rather handle it as a parent? Personally, I'd rather take care of this one in house.

right, its not the question of whether hom0sexuality is right or wrong, as much as it is you dont want someone else explaining this stuff to your kids, and even promoting it to a certain extent. There are quite a few things that shouldnt be taught at a daycare, including sex-ed.

[davebg 0]

Regardless of one's stance on the issue of homosexual marriage (or on fastfish, for that matter)...I think that everybody should be adhering to this advice:

But Morris Iemma, the premier of New South Wales - Australia's most populous state, of which Sydney is the capital - said it was inappropriate to draw young children into the debate over homosexual and lesbian relationships.

 

"Kids should be allowed to be kids and daycare centers should not be a battleground for gender politics," he was quoted as saying.

 

A federal government minister responsible for family and community services, Mal Brough, also criticized use of the books by a taxpayer-funded facility.

 

"At that age children should be finger-painting and having fun, not learning about social behavior which many parents regard as beyond their years," he said.

 

"Let children be children," said Health Minister Tony Abbott. "Let them worry about all that stuff later."

[fastfish 0]

wouldnt be ok for my kids...

 

There was a time not very long ago when exposing kids to these kind of "lessons" would have got the "teacher" arrested....and if the parents got to the school before the law, the teacher would have wished for police protection.

[hoytdwow 202]

I think you guys are intolerant jerks, but I agree with you on this one.

[Artist Formerly Known as Big O 0]

If I had that much of a problem with what a daycare teaches, then I would switch to another facility. Rather simple really.

 

FWIW, my child goes to a church daycare, even though my own stance on religion is ambivilent at best.

[D_House 0]

and if the parents got to the school before the law, the teacher would have wished for police protection.

liberalism is a mental disorder.

 

only way to learn 'em is to whup 'em.

[fastfish 0]

I think you guys are intolerant jerks, but I agree with you on this one.

 

way to take a stand...you're a real "profile in courage"

[edjr 6,732]

There are gay people?

[Birdseed 1]

I'd rather take care of this one in house.

 

[MDC 7,652]

I think you guys are intolerant jerks, but I agree with you on this one.

 

That's kind of my stance.

 

If I had a kid I would not send him/her to a daycare that taught these kind of lessons. Not that I disagree with the message - I just don't think daycare-aged kids need to learn about same-sex marriage. It's beyond their years and it's unnecessary. On the other hand, I think it's kind of ridiculous to call this indoctrinization. The overwhelming evidence is that sexual preference is something you're born with. You can't recruit otherwise straight kids into gayness. What you can do is teach them tolerance.

[davebg 0]

If I had that much of a problem with what a daycare teaches, then I would switch to another facility. Rather simple really.

 

FWIW, my child goes to a church daycare, even though my own stance on religion is ambivilent at best.

This happened in Australia. I am assuming, based upon things like this:

A federal government minister responsible for family and community services, Mal Brough, also criticized use of the books by a taxpayer-funded facility.

that daycare is at least partially funded by the state and not quite as individually owned & operated as they are here in the US.

 

So, if my assumption is correct, then it may be more akin to your kid being taught this stuff at a young age in public school.

[fastfish 0]

That's kind of my stance.

 

If I had a kid I would not send him/her to a daycare that taught these kind of lessons. Not that I disagree with the message - I just don't think daycare-aged kids need to learn about same-sex marriage. It's beyond their years and it's unnecessary. On the other hand, I think it's kind of ridiculous to call this indoctrinization. The overwhelming evidence is that sexual preference is something you're born with. You can't recruit otherwise straight kids into gayness. What you can do is teach them tolerance.

 

link to "overwhelming evidence"? (TIP:homo behavior is choice...dark hair or brown eyes you're born with)

 

you are the perfect lib robot..put a quarter in the machine and get a cookie-cutter lib reply to every issue...you and parrot are the same person right?

[D_House 0]

There are gay people?

That's what I thought at first! But through fastfish's constant posting about them, I feel myself changing. I think he's indoctrinating me! Make him stop

[Rusty Syringes 478]

Was this an authorized biography?

[Artist Formerly Known as Big O 0]

This happened in Australia. I am assuming, based upon things like this:that daycare is at least partially funded by the state and not quite as individually owned & operated as they are here in the US.

 

So, if my assumption is correct, then it may be more akin to your kid being taught this stuff at a young age in public school.

 

 

 

Agreed, but my response would be the same if it was here in a public school. If I was that worried about curriculum, I would either homeschool or switch districts.

[phillybear 366]

The overwhelming evidence is that sexual preference is something you're born with. You can't recruit otherwise straight kids into gayness. What you can do is teach them tolerance.

 

Actually, there is no evidence that you are born with it. It's just an urban legend that is now touted as fact.

 

There is a lot credibility in the argument of environment having a lot of influence upon sexual preference. However, this isn't really relevant to this thread.

[Artist Formerly Known as Big O 0]

 

You can't just switch districts.

 

I cant sell my house and move to another part of the city?

[edjr 6,732]

PARENTS! whatever you do, DO NOT let "the gays" near your children. Unless of course they work at your local church.

[DanXIII 8]

Hey fastfish, what are your plans now that you will no longer be able to protest at military funerals?

[surferskin 30]

I cant sell my house and move to another part of the city?

 

because that's a realistic solution for EVERYTIME your school changes curriculum.

[Voltaire 5,388]

We use to call stupid stuff "gay" all the time when we were kids, but I don't recall knowing that gay meant boy-boy girl-girl stuff. Even when I figured that out, it must have taken another few years to figure out that there were really people like that and they weren't just making it up.

 

I remember the listening to the Village People when I was a kid. I liked the song YMCA. Years later I heard the song again and was shocked to find out that it sounded really gay. Then I thought about the fireman, policeman, construction worker thing....

 

I honestly believe I was the last human being on earth to realize the Village People were gay.

[Artist Formerly Known as Big O 0]

because that's a realistic solution for EVERYTIME your school changes curriculum.

 

*Sigh*

 

I was not talking about individual issues, I was speaking generally.

[surferskin 30]

*Sigh*

 

I was not talking about individual issues, I was speaking generally.

 

so we weren't talking about an individual issue that you/i oppose?

[Artist Formerly Known as Big O 0]

I guess. But that isn't realistic.

 

How is it not? Did you research the school district your neighborhood lies in prior to purchase? I did,m as it had an effect on where my son would eventually go to school.

 

If suddenly, your neighborhood fed into Aldine ISD, would you not consider moving?

[phillybear 366]

We use to call stupid stuff "gay" all the time when we were kids, but I don't recall knowing that gay meant boy-boy girl-girl stuff. Even when I figured that out, it must have taken another few years to figure out that there were really people like that and they weren't just making it up.

 

I remember the listening to the Village People when I was a kid. I liked the song YMCA. Years later I heard the song again and was shocked to find out that it sounded really gay. Then I thought about the fireman, policeman, construction worker thing....

 

I honestly believe I was the last human being on earth to realize the Village People were gay.

 

Don't lose any sleep over it. Tom Cruise is the last person on earth to realize that he is gay. That's more oblivious.

[D_House 0]

I honestly believe I was the last human being on earth to realize the Village People were gay.

The Village People are WHAT?

[hoytdwow 202]

Hey fastfish, what are your plans now that you will no longer be able to protest at military funerals?

[MDC 7,652]

link to "overwhelming evidence"? (TIP:homo behavior is choice...dark hair or brown eyes you're born with)

 

you are the perfect lib robot..put a quarter in the machine and get a cookie-cutter lib reply to every issue...you and parrot are the same person right?

 

Sure homersexual <i>behavior</i> is a choice, but homersexual preference in most cases probably is not. A few reasons I think it's primarily something you're born with:

 

1. Homersexuality is fairly common in the animal kingdom, particularly species that are similar to humans, like apes. Are gay monkeys just choosing to be gay because it's fashionable?

2. Researchers have begun to identify common physical differences between gay men/women and straights; for example a gland in the brain that is typically underdeveloped in gay men and over-developed in lezbos.

3. The percentage of homersexuals has been pretty stable, at around 3-5% of the male population. Since the majority of these people are not reproducting, you'd think that the percentage would decline.

4. Of the few gay guys I've known, every one of them recalls being aware of their preference at a very early age. One friend of mine in particular is the son of a GOP councilman / former ballplayer, and this friend tells me he can recall being attracted to other guys from as early as five years old.

 

You can read more about all of this (except for #4 - that's just an anecdote I've heard repeated often) by doing a few Google searches. Wikipedia is a pretty good and non-partisan source for this kind of thing.

[davebg 0]

I cant sell my house and move to another part of the city?

Me at the idea/image of Artist O running from neighborhood to neighborhood to escape the gays.

Why should a person have to move his/her family to keep their 5 - 8 year olds from being taught something that adults can't even agree upon?

[MDC 7,652]

Actually, there is no evidence that you are born with it. It's just an urban legend that is now touted as fact.

 

There is a lot credibility in the argument of environment having a lot of influence upon sexual preference. However, this isn't really relevant to this thread.

 

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Artist Formerly Known as Big O 0]

Me at the idea/image of Artist O running from neighborhood to neighborhood to escape the gays.

Why should a person have to move his/her family to keep their 5 - 8 year olds from being taught something that adults can't even agree upon?

 

Gah, I guess my communication skills really suck. I give up.

[surferskin 30]

4. Of the few gay guys I've known, every one of them recalls being aware of their preference at a very early age. One friend of mine in particular is the son of a GOP councilman / former ballplayer, and this friend tells me he can recall being attracted to other guys from as early as five years old.

 

how do you know they're being honest? you shouldn't talk all pillow talk so literally.

[davebg 0]

Did you research the school district your neighborhood lies in prior to purchase? I did,m as it had an effect on where my son would eventually go to school.

I assume that it is much easier to get statistics regarding graduation rates, standardized test scores and the like than it is a tally of books that force children to address contoversial subjects that the adult population of this country doesn't seem mature enough to deal with.

[D_House 0]

Sure homersexual <i>behavior</i> is a choice, but homersexual preference in most cases probably is not. A few reasons I think it's primarily something you're born with:

 

1. Homersexuality is fairly common in the animal kingdom, particularly species that are similar to humans, like apes. Are gay monkeys just choosing to be gay because it's fashionable?

2. Researchers have begun to identify common physical differences between gay men/women and straights; for example a gland in the brain that is typically underdeveloped in gay men and over-developed in lezbos.

3. The percentage of homersexuals has been pretty stable, at around 3-5% of the male population. Since the majority of these people are not reproducting, you'd think that the percentage would decline.

4. Of the few gay guys I've known, every one of them recalls being aware of their preference at a very early age. One friend of mine in particular is the son of a GOP councilman / former ballplayer, and this friend tells me he can recall being attracted to other guys from as early as five years old.

 

You can read more about all of this (except for #4 - that's just an anecdote I've heard repeated often) by doing a few Google searches. Wikipedia is a pretty good and non-partisan source for this kind of thing.

Also single-gene mutations in flies can cause them to mate exlusively with the same sex, or to become oversexed and display no preference (be bi).

 

The problem with 'proving' a genetic basis for homosexuality is that the lay public will probably want to see a 'gay gene' that dictates sexual preference, when in fact, preference is most likely a pleiotropic phenotype, just like hair or eye color (examples fastfish brought up), although even more complex than these traits (ie, involving even more genes). Add in variations in penetrance, and the likelihood that there are environmental influences as well, and I doubt that a genetic basis will ever be 'proven' to the satisfaction of the "gays are deviant sinners" crowd.

[Toro 1]

I assume that it is much easier to get statistics regarding graduation rates, standardized test scores and the like than it is a tally of books that force children to address contoversial subjects that the adult population of this country doesn't seem mature enough to deal with.

 

Excuse me..Hi...Uh, my name is Toro and this is Mrs. Toro and we just wanted to stop bye and ask a few questions. Uh, do you read the books that are the homogay?