breaking news on Vick

[famousb 11]

it's all coming to light and the VA dog ring is just the tip of the iceburg----> Vick Case Shines Light on Brutal Sport http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8...;show_article=1

 

wow... great read... pretty condemning for Vick the fact that his name kept popping up from Atlanta to Pittsburgh, to LA, to Dayton, OH, even to Ecuador in conjunction w/ the murder investigation of a reknown do fighter... doesn't say Vick was linked to the murder in any way, but the fact the guy was killed for $100,000 he just won in a dog fight, and that Vick's name kept coming up is just bad...

 

just another reason Vick needs to rot in jail with his entire family if this all can be proven to be true.

[famousb 11]

It's hard to pick which part of this "sport" is the most disgusting...but the part of kidnapping some hapless pets, taping their mouths shut and then using them as chum for the pit bull to eat ranks near the bottom. I wonder if Vick keeps an eye out for these "bait" dogs as he drives his BMW around town and then sends one his posse to nab the dog and have it shipped to VA?

 

i completely agree... all those that want to defend dog fighting by saying it doesn't hurt people that aren't involved and those dogs are just their "property", and therefore shouldn't be illegal because you should be able to do whatever you want with your own property can suck a big fat d!ck...

cause that part right there is interfering on others... and it's theft of "property"...

[devilsden 0]

It's hard to pick which part of this "sport" is the most disgusting...but the part of kidnapping some hapless pets, taping their mouths shut and then using them as chum for the pit bull to eat ranks near the bottom. I wonder if Vick keeps an eye out for these "bait" dogs as he drives his BMW around town and then sends one his posse to nab the dog and have it shipped to VA?

 

Here is my idea, when they find that Vick and his cousin are involved they should tape his hands and feet behind his back and release the 66 or so dogs into the pit for him to deal with.

 

Anyone that tries to justify this as a sport or as entertainment really needs to have themself committed because they have emotional problems

[mobb_deep 920]

i completely agree... all those that want to defend dog fighting by saying it doesn't hurt people that aren't involved and those dogs are just their "property", and therefore shouldn't be illegal because you should be able to do whatever you want with your own property can suck a big fat d!ck...

cause that part right there is interfering on others... and it's theft of "property"...

 

Who even cares if it does or does not hurt people that aren't directly involved anyways. The point is, we have a responsibility to our animals as humans, not owners. Animals are not a piece of property that you own and can do what you please with. Animals of all kinds are living, feeling, loving creatures who trust us with their life. People who look at pets as a piece of property are ignorant twats, period.

 

Everyime I read about this story I get so f'ing heated I can't even see straight.

[devilsden 0]

Who even cares if it does or does not hurt people that aren't directly involved anyways. The point is, we have a responsibility to our animals as humans, not owners. Animals are not a piece of property that you own and can do what you please with. Animals of all kinds are living, feeling, loving creatures who trust us with their life. People who look at pets as a piece of property are ignorant twats, period.

 

Everyime I read about this story I get so f'ing heated I can't even see straight.

 

I have to be honest, I am a die hard football fan and a fan of the NE Patriots, if Vick was on my team I would have a very difficult time going to the games to watch him in light of all this information.

 

I know that a person is innocent till proven guilty but I do not need 12 people to tell me that he is involved and linked to this in one form or another. If he is not behind the acutal breeding of them, then he is betting and observing them either way he is a sick and disturbed individual.

[jgcrawfish 232]

This is all leading up to what I like to refer to as the "Running Man" society. Just like the movie of the same name staring the Gov of California, that's where we're headed. Today dogfighting is acceptable and UFC/MMA is televised w/ guys kicking the crap out of each other w/ massive amounts of blood and gore as we continue to get desenstized to the violence. Tomorrow it's going to be televised executions. Not too far down the road it'll be inmate combat to the death and Running Man style gameshows. Vick is just a symptom of the disease, the problem lies much deeper.

[famousb 11]

This is all leading up to what I like to refer to as the "Running Man" society. Just like the movie of the same name staring the Gov of California, that's where we're headed. Today dogfighting is acceptable and UFC/MMA is televised w/ guys kicking the crap out of each other w/ massive amounts of blood and gore as we continue to get desenstized to the violence. Tomorrow it's going to be televised executions. Not too far down the road it'll be inmate combat to the death and Running Man style gameshows. Vick is just a symptom of the disease, the problem lies much deeper.

 

well, if all things are cyclical in this world, then what you speak of would simply be us going back to gladitorial days...

 

as for me, i think it should be more of hamarrabi's code... i'd put any fock convicted of doing sh!t like this in a pit w/ his own dogs, one by one... he'll either kill them all in succession w/ his bare hands, or get ripped to shreads... would make for a great PPV event...

[Gepetto 1,292]

[nobody 2,574]

Update:

 

Vick not likely to suspended if not charged.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/sportsline/main10203296.shtml

 

"I don't see how he could do anything," said an AFC general manager. "What's Vick been charged with? Nothing. So you're going to tell me you pop someone just because of 'suspicious' behavior? If that's the case, then we all have a problem."

[fastfish 0]

Update:

 

Vick not likely to suspended if not charged.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/sportsline/main10203296.shtml

 

another Vick owner in denial...that cbssportsline piece is about 2-3 weeks old. Here is the latest: NFL Network led their "news" section with Vick. It seems the nation's top canine forensic expert is being brought in to review evidence. Falcons owner also was quoted as acknowledging that fans are contacting him...and they are giving him lots of advice

[nobody 2,574]

another Vick owner in denial...that cbssportline piece is about 2-3 weeks old. Here is the latest: NFL Network led their "news" section with Vick. It seems the nation's top canine forensic expert is being brought in to review evidence. Falcons owner also was quoted as acknowledging that fans are contacting him...and they are giving him lots of advice

I actually traded Vick away in the only league I ever had him in. Just being a realist. What are forensic experts going to do? Look for Mike Vick's DNA on the dog caracasses. Teflon Mike baby. Charges won't stick.

[famousb 11]

What are forensic experts going to do? Look for Mike Vick's DNA on the dog caracasses.

haven't you ever seen Bones??? her and Booth are going to bust this case wide open...

[fastfish 0]

haven't you ever seen Bones??? her and Booth are going to bust this case wide open...

Vick is gonna learn, as we all will, that when it matters the crimes you think are invisible CAN be discovered....it's just a matter of the resources made available to the investigation. In Vick's case, the Feds have very deep pockets.

[Gepetto 1,292]

You people are Vick hating psychopaths. I love watching Vick play football and help score some points for my fantasy team. Michael Vick!

 

So, where's the update from NFL Network 6/12 6:00 PM - ???

[fastfish 0]

You people are Vick hating psychopaths. I love watching Vick play football and help score some points for my fantasy team. Michael Vick!

 

So, where's the update from NFL Network 6/12 6:00 PM - ???

The above quote is a lifeless loser in his own words. Hey Gepetto, your fantasy team is all that matters here?

[Gepetto 1,292]

The above quote is a lifeless loser in his own words. Hey Gepetto, your fantasy team is all that matters here?

 

No, but you seem to want to convict a man before he's even been charged with a crime, let alone gone to trial and been convicted. And you and famousb post in this thread 20 times a day about your hate for Michael Vick. So who do you think most people know is the real "lifeless loser".

 

I like Mike Vick as a football player and I want to see him play until he retires.

 

He's not going to be convicted. He might not even be charged. This is a board for fantasy football. I know the facts of the case, but some people just feel the need to keep throwing out their opinions about this situation. And your thread title says new news about Vick on NFL Network, yet you don't have a post on anything new. Just more rambling about the evil that is Mike Vick. Give it a rest. Or take it to the Geek Board.

[Mad Brad 0]

No, but you seem to want to convict a man before he's even been charged with a crime, let alone gone to trial and been convicted. And you and famousb post in this thread 20 times a day about your hate for Michael Vick. So who do you think most people know is the real "lifeless loser".

 

I like Mike Vick as a football player and I want to see him wearing a strap-on and standing behind me, I'll be the center and Mike can hike my balls, until he retires.

 

He's not going to be convicted. He might not even be charged. This is a board for fantasy football. I know the facts of the case, but some people just feel the need to keep throwing out their opinions about this situation. And your thread title says new news about Vick on NFL Network, yet you don't have a post on anything new. Just more rambling about the evil that is Mike Vick. Give it a rest. Or take it to the Geek Board.

 

 

FIXORED

[Gepetto 1,292]

I think about gay stuff and pawn it off as someone elses to hide the fact.

 

MB

[football_scooter 0]

I actually traded Vick away in the only league I ever had him in. Just being a realist. What are forensic experts going to do? Look for Mike Vick's DNA on the dog caracasses. Teflon Mike baby. Charges won't stick.

 

forensic experts will be able to determine that the dogs did not die of natural causes. Bite injuries and the types of injuries inflicted by one dog to another in a fight are quite distinct.

 

When they build this case, they will bring in the forensic expert, who will have dated the carcases, as well as determined that the injuries sustained were the result of dog-on-dog violence.

 

Further incriminating is that the carcases were likely burried over a period of time...say, years. If that's the case, it becomes harder still for Vick to continue to claim no knowledge of the dog fighting on his property. And the further back they can date the bones, the more and more likely it becomes that someone can place Michael Vick at the house. And if they have that, there's the smoking gun.

 

To summarize: Michael Vick will inevitably be placed at that location at a time when it can be proven that dog fighting took place there. He will not be able to deny knowledge of the black painted out-buildings, or the dog pit. It will be open & shut. He'll be arrested, tried and convicted. A mountain of circumstantial evidence and being placed at the scene will be more than enough to convince any jury in the world. Voila. Forensic science comes in handy.

[nobody 2,574]

Further incriminating is that the carcases were likely burried over a period of time...say, years. If that's the case, it becomes harder still for Vick to continue to claim no knowledge of the dog fighting on his property. And the further back they can date the bones, the more and more likely it becomes that someone can place Michael Vick at the house. And if they have that, there's the smoking gun.

 

To summarize: Michael Vick will inevitably be placed at that location at a time when it can be proven that dog fighting took place there. He will not be able to deny knowledge of the black painted out-buildings, or the dog pit. It will be open & shut. He'll be arrested, tried and convicted. A mountain of circumstantial evidence and being placed at the scene will be more than enough to convince any jury in the world. Voila. Forensic science comes in handy.

 

I disagree. They won't be able to determine time of death accurately enough to place Vick there.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

as for me, i think it should be more of hamarrabi's code... i'd put any fock convicted of doing sh!t like this in a pit w/ his own dogs, one by one... he'll either kill them all in succession w/ his bare hands, or get ripped to shreads... would make for a great PPV event...

 

I say you give the guy the Amsterdam treatment; strap em into that 'rape stand' and let his 60+ pitbulls pull a train on his a$$. He'll be ripped to shreds in another way and THEN if the dogs feel like some 'Mexican' food, they can eat his ass. Of course he'll be dripping like a popsicle in July at that point, but then again, ol' herpe-boy was already dripping.

 

I, too don't need twelve guys to tell me this fock is involved enough to do jail time and here's a big ol' "FOCK YOU" going out to all those that are still saying 'innocent' until proven guilty. We all know money has let people (both white and black) get away with murder, let alone felonies. That little slut Lohan crashed her car while drunk, had cocaine in the car and never went to jail?! Give me a focking break. Start making examples of these celebrities so they don't have the 'above the law' complex.

[devilsden 0]

No, but you seem to want to convict a man before he's even been charged with a crime, let alone gone to trial and been convicted. And you and famousb post in this thread 20 times a day about your hate for Michael Vick. So who do you think most people know is the real "lifeless loser".

 

I like Mike Vick as a football player and I want to see him play until he retires.

 

He's not going to be convicted. He might not even be charged. This is a board for fantasy football. I know the facts of the case, but some people just feel the need to keep throwing out their opinions about this situation. And your thread title says new news about Vick on NFL Network, yet you don't have a post on anything new. Just more rambling about the evil that is Mike Vick. Give it a rest. Or take it to the Geek Board.

 

Exactly it is a fantasy football board that you discuss issues that effect players in a league. I for one have no problem with this topic being discussed here, if it bothers you so much then stop clicking on the topic. If you do not want to hear how your little golden boy becoming the most dispised player in the league and everyone wants to see him go down for what is obviously something he is VERY involved in then I would stop reading. I think that Fastfish and famousb have added some very interesting links.

 

[Gepetto 1,292]

Well, you still haven't responded about the news you say NFL Network reported about Vick on 6/12 at 6:00 pm. The fact is all they said is that the owner of the Falcons stated that as of now Vick hasn't been charged with any crime and that in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, and that they support Mike Vick. There, now you can start bashing the owner too.

 

There is an idea of innocent until proven guilty in this country but few seem to really believe that. According to most, if someone is charged with a crime they are guilty. In this case you say he's guilty and he hasn't even been charged.

[Sho Nuff 720]

You people are Vick hating psychopaths. I love watching Vick play football and help score some points for my fantasy team. Michael Vick!

 

So, where's the update from NFL Network 6/12 6:00 PM - ???

 

Vick hating psycho? Because I am appauled by him if he was involved in this...and it sure appears he most certainly was.

 

Seems more like you are a just a Vick apologist because the guy can run well.

 

Id rather watch Vince Young or Brett Favre play football.

 

No, but you seem to want to convict a man before he's even been charged with a crime, let alone gone to trial and been convicted. And you and famousb post in this thread 20 times a day about your hate for Michael Vick. So who do you think most people know is the real "lifeless loser".

 

I like Mike Vick as a football player and I want to see him play until he retires.

 

He's not going to be convicted. He might not even be charged. This is a board for fantasy football. I know the facts of the case, but some people just feel the need to keep throwing out their opinions about this situation. And your thread title says new news about Vick on NFL Network, yet you don't have a post on anything new. Just more rambling about the evil that is Mike Vick. Give it a rest. Or take it to the Geek Board.

 

 

To answer your first question...Im pretty sure most people would agree who the real lifeless loser is...Im not namecalling...just using your words.

 

He's not going to be convicted? Ahh...got that crystal ball out?

 

I don't think you do know the facts of the case...or your pathetic defense of the guy might not be so strong.

 

Well, you still haven't responded about the news you say NFL Network reported about Vick on 6/12 at 6:00 pm. The fact is all they said is that the owner of the Falcons stated that as of now Vick hasn't been charged with any crime and that in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, and that they support Mike Vick. There, now you can start bashing the owner too.

 

There is an idea of innocent until proven guilty in this country but few seem to really believe that. According to most, if someone is charged with a crime they are guilty. In this case you say he's guilty and he hasn't even been charged.

 

Actually...there is an idea that you are "presumed innocent until proven guilty". But that is not for the judge and jury...not for the court of public opinion.

 

In this case...just about everyone has stated how they feel about him "if" he is guilty of it. Based on all the evidence shown so far...the assumption is that he is guilty in some manner of having a connection of that. Is it enough to convict him? Maybe not...the burden of proof is higher for a jury than it is on a message board.

 

Your defense of the guy is comical though.

[Dr. Octopus 0]

Well, you still haven't responded about the news you say NFL Network reported about Vick on 6/12 at 6:00 pm. The fact is all they said is that the owner of the Falcons stated that as of now Vick hasn't been charged with any crime and that in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, and that they support Mike Vick. There, now you can start bashing the owner too.

 

There is an idea of innocent until proven guilty in this country but few seem to really believe that. According to most, if someone is charged with a crime they are guilty. In this case you say he's guilty and he hasn't even been charged.

 

"Innocent until proven guilty" is a criminal standard only. There is such a thing as the court of public opionion and that standard does not apply. If you really think Vick was not involved in this you are delusional. Who funded this operation (that was housed on his property mind you), his dead beat cousin?

 

Circumstantial evidence also convicted Scott Peterson.

[devilsden 0]

Well, you still haven't responded about the news you say NFL Network reported about Vick on 6/12 at 6:00 pm. The fact is all they said is that the owner of the Falcons stated that as of now Vick hasn't been charged with any crime and that in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, and that they support Mike Vick. There, now you can start bashing the owner too.

 

There is an idea of innocent until proven guilty in this country but few seem to really believe that. According to most, if someone is charged with a crime they are guilty. In this case you say he's guilty and he hasn't even been charged.

 

 

Correct because in this country we also have the ability to use our own judgement and have the ability to reason out situations. That is what separates us from lower forms of primates. I do not care what the owner of the Falcons say, he will say whatever he has to in order to protect his money pit. They can support Mike all they want, but as more information about his involvement is linked to the public, I am willing to bet that his support will start to waiver as he has animal rights activists picketing out in front of the stadium. He will also start to waiver as season ticket holders are booing Vick when he comes on the field.

 

I will say it again, I do not need 12 people on a jury to tell me that he is involved in cruel treatment of animals. Just because 12 people say it is not so does not mean it is correct, there is a margin of error in everything we do. I am willing to bet that 98% of the country knows that OJ Simpson commited the murders but he was found not guilty. Just because the 12 people decided that he was not guilty does not mean that I can not draw my own conclusion.

[famousb 11]

good points about the court of Public Opinion...

 

if Vick is "innocent", then why are his endorsement deals dropping his contract? court of public opinion matters...

[fastfish 0]

the NFL Network update from last night can be found on post #330. Most found it news worth noting but someone here is blind and needs a map to find the obvious: Vick's dirty lil' secret is out..and his "hobby" is revolting in the extreme to people with a shred of common decency.

[famousb 11]

Vick's dirty lil' secret is out..and his "hobby" is revolting in the extreme to people with a shred of common decency.

 

you know, it's amazing how people (read: ATL & Vick fans) can act like there is nothing here, and that the felony of dog fighting shouldn't be getting any attention, or shouldn't be a crime at all... like it's a waste of tax payer money to prosecute criminals...

if you're bored, hop over to the ATL Falcons message board and read some of the obviously slanted and biased opinions and commentary...

http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/index.php...er=all&st=0

[Gepetto 1,292]

you know, it's amazing how people (read: ATL & Vick fans) can act like there is nothing here, and that the felony of dog fighting shouldn't be getting any attention, or shouldn't be a crime at all... like it's a waste of tax payer money to prosecute criminals...

if you're bored, hop over to the ATL Falcons message board and read some of the obviously slanted and biased opinions and commentary...

http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/index.php...er=all&st=0

 

As opposed to your slanted and biased views.

[football_scooter 0]

I disagree. They won't be able to determine time of death accurately enough to place Vick there.

 

Then you are, with all due respect, speaking from a standpoint of ignorance.

 

Organic matter breaks down at a very specific rate, and variables such as weather conditions, soil type, and depth can all be "dialed in" to the point that they can determine date of death fairly accurately, within a month +/-

 

it's all pretty much science, friend.

 

They will be able to establish very clearly if any of those carcases were there a year, or two years, or 3 years ago. And the further back they can date them, the more likely it is that someone will be able to place Vick at the property at that time. He will not be able to claim ignorance of what was happening there and will be entirely culpable.

 

I suspect that when Vick travels, he doesn't do so incognito or quietly. he generally has an enterage with him, and from things I've seen in the past, they roll in with phat cars and hoochies. In a small town like that, it gets noticed, and that is going to be his downfall.

 

Someone will have seen him at the property over the last several years...and if they have any dog carcases that decomp dates back that far, Vick is toast.

 

You sir, seem to be in denial. I also notice that despite challenging the validity of forensic science, you completely ignored the answer to your question having to do with bite marks left on bone, and other injuries which will be able to establish beyond any reasonable doubt that the dogs buried on the property were killed in dog fights. Very convenient for you to ignore that, but that's why I'm here to remind you.

 

You know, it's ironic - I once was ripping on myself in a moment of humor, and you chose it as your signature in yet another of your may attempts to bash on me here. However, based on your posts in this topic I think your signature is now giving me more credibility, as people will believe the opposite of what you say. How delicious.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

That Atlanta Fan site is focking hilarious! Thanks.

 

 

To sum all 85% of the Vick defensive responses there; Vick will not be charged because the property has been broken into therefore all the evidence is tainted. 'Who cares if he's guilty; someone could have planted some of the mountains of evidence they're boxing up out of there!'

[famousb 11]

As opposed to your slanted and biased views.

 

my views ARE slanted and biased against ignorant dumbarses that think this kind of activity is acceptable...

it's too bad we live in a society where just cause someone can run fast and wears a certain teams jersey that people come clamouring out of the woodwork to defend the guy and say "innocent til proven guilty", but if it was some hick w/ three teeth who lived in a shack the same people defending Vick wouldn't give a fock... but all of us persecuting the act of dog fighting would still find what this guy is doing reprehensible...

 

90% of the Vick-koolaid drinking fans would probably be running to his side to defend him if he had his cousin running a child p0rnography ring out of his house... even if there were pics of Vick w/ all of the kids, they'd still be trying to say, "oh, you could've edited those in Photoshop to frame Michael Vick"...

[devilsden 0]

As opposed to your slanted and biased views.

 

If there is one person on this board and responding in this post that has a biased view it is you. The only arguement that you have made and continue to make is that he is innocent till proven guilty. What you are so offended by is that people are giving you their feelings toward the situation. I have a question for you, if it was a 3rd string QB for the Falcons that these claims were against would you feel as passionate about the "innocent till proven guilty arguement" that you continue to make?

[Sho Nuff 720]

As opposed to your slanted and biased views.

 

I have no slant and bias. I don't care what happens to Vick either way. Not a Vick owner...a falcons fan...or a fan of a falcon's rival. In essence...whether he plays or not really does not affect me.

 

I can, unlike you, understand what is going on and see that he has...at the very least...a small connection to what is going on...if by nothing else but the ownership of the property.

[Gepetto 1,292]

If there is one person on this board and responding in this post that has a biased view it is you. The only arguement that you have made and continue to make is that he is innocent till proven guilty. What you are so offended by is that people are giving you their feelings toward the situation. I have a question for you, if it was a 3rd string QB for the Falcons that these claims were against would you feel as passionate about the "innocent till proven guilty arguement" that you continue to make?

 

No. However, it does seem to me that most people in this country immediately assume guilt as soon as the law becomes involved in a potential case against someone.

[Sho Nuff 720]

No. However, it does seem to me that most people in this country immediately assume guilt as soon as the law becomes involved in a potential case against someone.

 

I think most people have gone on the presumption that "if he is guilty" he is a POS, should be suspended, in jail...and then the more extreme answers.

 

The assumption of guilt comes from the massive amounts of circumstantial evidence that point straight at him.

[Gepetto 1,292]

I think most people have gone on the presumption that "if he is guilty" he is a POS, should be suspended, in jail...and then the more extreme answers.

 

The assumption of guilt comes from the massive amounts of circumstantial evidence that point straight at him.

 

fair enough

[devilsden 0]

No. However, it does seem to me that most people in this country immediately assume guilt as soon as the law becomes involved in a potential case against someone.

 

You very well could be correct in your assumption but I for one have based my decision on everything that I have read so far. Do I think that he was involved? YES!!!!! Was his involvement in raising the dogs and training them to fight? That I am not sure of, but I do feel that he has bet on them and or knew of the involvement in it. His name has come up WAY to much for it not to be involved.

 

I have recently purchased a new dog from a breeder, before I selected the breeder that I got him from I screened numerous breeders to make sure that what I was getting was a heathy and well tempermented dog. I used referrals from other breeders, talked to breed stuards and checked the references from numerous people before I decided on one. NOT ONE of the breeders that I spoke to had 66 dogs on their property and NONE of them used a rape harness to get their female pregnant. The breeder that I chose to get my dog from had a kennel out back that had AC and heat for the animals. The pictures and conditions that the dogs that were on Mike Vicks property was disgusting and there is no need to have them living like that not to mention why did they need as many dogs as they had.

 

He wants to claim ignorance that he had no idea what was going on at the property but the local Pet Store or drug store owner can place Michael Vick in the store buying food and medical supplies. Was the owner lying that Vick was in there? If he was not guilty of anything then why the need to sell the house and take a loss on it in order to dump it? If he was doing nothing wrong why is he canceling appearances and Football clinics. Why is he hiding behind his lawyer? See most of the time if a person is hiding behind his lawyer then he has something to hide. If he was not involved I would think that he would want to get out in front of this and plead his innocense, but he is not doing that. I know if I was being accused of abusing animals and betting on dog fights I would want to make it known that I was not involved.

 

See it is not that people automatically assume guilt but when you act like you are guilty then people start to look at things differently. See people are innocent until proven guilty but most intelegent people are able to put 2+2 together and draw and intelegent conclusion all without the help of a jury.

[Gepetto 1,292]

The pictures and conditions that the dogs that were on Mike Vicks property was disgusting and there is no need to have them living like that not to mention why did they need as many dogs as they had.

 

He wants to claim ignorance that he had no idea what was going on at the property but the local Pet Store or drug store owner can place Michael Vick in the store buying food and medical supplies. Was the owner lying that Vick was in there? If he was not guilty of anything then why the need to sell the house and take a loss on it in order to dump it? If he was doing nothing wrong why is he canceling appearances and Football clinics. Why is he hiding behind his lawyer? See most of the time if a person is hiding behind his lawyer then he has something to hide. If he was not involved I would think that he would want to get out in front of this and plead his innocense, but he is not doing that. I know if I was being accused of abusing animals and betting on dog fights I would want to make it known that I was not involved.

 

See it is not that people automatically assume guilt but when you act like you are guilty then people start to look at things differently. See people are innocent until proven guilty but most intelegent people are able to put 2+2 together and draw and intelegent conclusion all without the help of a jury.

 

That "hiding" is on the advice of his lawyer. It's common practice 100% of the time in this country. Can you provide a link to these pictures? I've never seen them, I don't think. I did see the pictures on Vicks K-9 Kennels and it looked decent enough to me. Oh, and the reason he purchase dog food and medical supplies from a pet store owner is b/c he's a dog breeder!!