akaoni 0 Posted September 5, 2007 Bill Nye the Science Guy has made it his mission to make science fun and interesting to kids around the US. Apparently they don't like that too much in the great state of Texas. Bill Nye, the harmless children's edu-tainer known as "The Science Guy," managed to offend a select group of adults in Waco, Texas at a presentation, when he suggested that the moon does not emit light, but instead reflects the light of the sun. As even most elementary-school graduates know, the moon reflects the light of the sun but produces no light of its own. But don't tell that to the good people of Waco, who were "visibly angered by what some perceived as irreverence," according to the Waco Tribune. Nye was in town to participate in McLennan Community College's Distinguished Lecture Series. He gave two lectures on such unfunny and adult topics as global warming, Mars exploration, and energy consumption. But nothing got people as riled as when he brought up Genesis 1:16, which reads: "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars." The lesser light, he pointed out, is not a light at all, but only a reflector. At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children, thus ensuring that people across America would read about the incident and conclude that Waco is as nutty as they'd always suspected. This story originally appeared in the Waco Tribune, but the newspaper has mysteriously pulled its story from the online version, presumably to avoid further embarassment. http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/...wacbillnye.html Damn you Moon! Every time you rise in the evening you mock the Lord our God! Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 5, 2007 At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children, thus ensuring that people across America would read about the incident and conclude that Waco is as nutty as they'd always suspected. I love this story!! Didja know Bush's Crawford Ranch is just a stone's throw away from Waco? So now Waco is known for housing the sprawling complex of a delusional megalomaniacal cult leader worshipped by a bunch of half-wit religous freaks. ...And the home of David Koresh and the Branch Davidians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted September 5, 2007 I love this story!! Didja know Bush's Crawford Ranch is just a stone's throw away from Waco? So now Waco is known for housing the sprawling complex of a delusional megalomaniacal cult leader worshipped by a bunch of half-wit religous freaks. ...And the home of David Koresh and the Branch Davidians. Never seen somebody have such a man crush on a President before. Wiff loves President Bush Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadpool 0 Posted September 5, 2007 And once again, Wacko makes the rest of Texas look bad................... Sometimes its hard to believe that people are actually this stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted September 5, 2007 I love this story!! Didja know Bush's Crawford Ranch is just a stone's throw away from Waco? So now Waco is known for housing the sprawling complex of a delusional megalomaniacal cult leader worshipped by a bunch of half-wit religous freaks. ...And the home of David Koresh and the Branch Davidians. Your lame attempt at some connection aside, Crawford isn't a "stone's throw" away from Waco, and Koresh's compound wasn't in Waco. But you never let facts get in the way of a good hard-on for Bush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil number 0 Posted September 5, 2007 Your lame attempt at some connection aside, Crawford isn't a "stone's throw" away from Waco, and Koresh's compound wasn't in Waco. But you never let facts get in the way of a good hard-on for Bush. 20 miles is pretty close Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted September 5, 2007 20 miles is pretty close If you are lobbing Nukes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaoni 0 Posted September 6, 2007 It's really getting out of hand. There is a very strong anti-science movement out there which is largely based around evangelicals and their opposition to evolution. This has begun to bleed over to other sciences, and could have very negative impacts to science and research funding in the near future. It's easy to pawn this off as just a bunch of dumb hicks, but I think it's a much larger phenomena. Still, that quote's classic: "We believe in God!" Belief in God in no way means you have to blindly reject science. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted September 6, 2007 Bill Nye > Mr. Wizard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted September 6, 2007 And once again, Wacko makes the rest of Texas look bad...................Sometimes its hard to believe that people are actually this stupid. I think we are beginning to realize just how stupid the average American truly is. Think of a person of "average" intelligence; half the people in the world are less intelligent than that person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 6, 2007 So a scientist brought up the Bible verse to demean people's beliefs. Sounds like an a-hole to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted September 6, 2007 Science is stupit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaoni 0 Posted September 6, 2007 So a scientist brought up the Bible verse to demean people's beliefs. Sounds like an a-hole to me. If people actually believe that the Moon is a light source rather than a reflector of the Sun's light because the Bible tells them this is the case, then these beliefs should at the very least be publicly questioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schaef2k 0 Posted September 6, 2007 So a scientist brought up the Bible verse to demean people's beliefs. Sounds like an a-hole to me. Bringing up a bible verse about the moon being a light is demeanizing people's beliefs? You'd prefer they remain ignorent? Anyone who boos a guy because he points out that the moon is reflecting sunlight is just a backwards hick. It's sad that she has children to pass this ignorance on to. This is why the US is having problems math and science, we are allowing people to openly reject facts in the name of religion. We are allowing them to propagate dilusional thinking at the expense of our children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 6, 2007 Bringing up a bible verse about the moon being a light is demeanizing people's beliefs? You'd prefer they remain ignorent? Anyone who boos a guy because he points out that the moon is reflecting sunlight is just a backwards hick. It's sad that she has children to pass this ignorance on to. This is why the US is having problems math and science, we are allowing people to openly reject facts in the name of religion. We are allowing them to propagate dilusional thinking at the expense of our children. Read the article again without your prejudice toward these people. Where did it say that they did not know or believe that the moon reflected the light? It stated that Nye mentioned a Bible verse. (Why he did this seems kind of ridiculous). People were insulted. A woman said she believed in God and walked out. You read three facts and choose to believe that her belief in God indicates that she believes that the moon gives off light. The article is slanted to make somebody who wishes to think like you put certain facts together. Reading comprehension is in just as big a danger as math and science, probably more so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,905 Posted September 6, 2007 This is why the US is having problems math and science, we are allowing people to openly reject facts in the name of religion. We are allowing them to propagate dilusional thinking at the expense of our children. That's just ridiculous. The US and almost every other nation in the developed world reject facts in the name of religion and this has been happening forever. This is not a new phenomenon. Religion is NOT the reason the US is having problems with math and science and to say so is as absurd as a religios fanatic saying America is going downhill because no one reads the Bible anymore. Science has a way of showing religion that it can be wrong. Has happened time and time again. He probably could have left out the reference to the Bible passage, cause that will infuriate people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,315 Posted September 6, 2007 LOL at Texas- where illiterate illegal aliens can raise the general IQ of the population. Just being Catholic not evangelical automatically qualifies them for genius status there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schaef2k 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Read the article again without your prejudice toward these people. Where did it say that they did not know or believe that the moon reflected the light? It stated that Nye mentioned a Bible verse. (Why he did this seems kind of ridiculous). People were insulted. A woman said she believed in God and walked out. You read three facts and choose to believe that her belief in God indicates that she believes that the moon gives off light. The article is slanted to make somebody who wishes to think like you put certain facts together. Reading comprehension is in just as big a danger as math and science, probably more so. I did read it. Again only a bunch of ignorant hicks boo a guy who quotes a bible verse and then explains that the moon is mealy reflecting light. You are making assumptions that the woman who said she believes in God don't believe that the moon is giving off light. What do you know about this woman? I am mealy stating that these people are ignorant for booing him in the first place. Is this the USA or Tajikistan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,086 Posted September 6, 2007 Bill Nye > Mr. Wizard Beakman>>>>>>Bill Nye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schaef2k 0 Posted September 6, 2007 That's just ridiculous. The US and almost every other nation in the developed world reject facts in the name of religion and this has been happening forever. This is not a new phenomenon. Religion is NOT the reason the US is having problems with math and science and to say so is as absurd as a religios fanatic saying America is going downhill because no one reads the Bible anymore. Science has a way of showing religion that it can be wrong. Has happened time and time again. He probably could have left out the reference to the Bible passage, cause that will infuriate people. BS When you start teaching creation in biology class you erode the foundations of science for our youth. What kind of message does that send to a kid growing up today? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artist Formerly Known as Big O 0 Posted September 6, 2007 I did read it. Again only a bunch of ignorant hicks boo a guy who quotes a bible verse and then explains that the moon is mealy reflecting light. You are making assumptions that the woman who said she believes in God don't believe that the moon is giving off light. What do you know about this woman? I am mealy stating that these people are ignorant for booing him in the first place. Is this the USA or Tajikistan? How do bugs fit into this conversation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 Fat, Bald & Texan 5 Posted September 6, 2007 Beakman>>>>>>Bill Nye Beaker>>>>Beakman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Although I'll be the first to question the sanity of any religion, is Bill Nye saying that reflected light isn't still light? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 6, 2007 You are making assumptions that the woman who said she believes in God don't believe that the moon is giving off light.Huh? Where do I make this assumption? What I am trying to do is give you a tutorial in how to read a post without filling in 20 blanks to suit your agenda. The conclusions to which so many are jumping may be entirely true. The article is certainly crafted in that direction, with very little supporting evidence. But then again, the Bible verse accompanied with a kindergarten science lesson in the presence of the press, show me a great deal about the intent and agenda of Nye. This story was half written before the "lesson" even started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 Fat, Bald & Texan 5 Posted September 6, 2007 BS When you start teaching creation in biology class you erode the foundations of science for our youth. What kind of message does that send to a kid growing up today? who the fock teaches creation in biology class? I grew up in a southern baptist Texor town and I assure you they are teaching biology in biology class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted September 6, 2007 Scientology > christianity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted September 6, 2007 who the fock teaches creation in biology class? I grew up in a southern baptist Texor town and I assure you they are teaching biology in biology class. That's what I don't understand either. Everyone thinks that the biology teacher walks in and says "fock it, this book is bullsh*t. God created everything." My biology teacher did not teach intelligent design, but the subject was brought up. He basically said "The origins of the universe are still unexplained so every theory is just that - theory." And that was that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted September 6, 2007 Although I'll be the first to question the sanity of any religion, is Bill Nye saying that reflected light isn't still light? No, his point was that the moon doesn't emit its own light; it reflects the light of the sun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schaef2k 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Huh? Where do I make this assumption? What I am trying to do is give you a tutorial in how to read a post without filling in 20 blanks to suit your agenda. The conclusions to which so many are jumping may be entirely true. The article is certainly crafted in that direction, with very little supporting evidence. But then again, the Bible verse accompanied with a kindergarten science lesson in the presence of the press, show me a great deal about the intent and agenda of Nye. This story was half written before the "lesson" even started. Ok, they are ignorant because they booed a guy who quoted a bible verse and explained that the moon really doesn't produce light but reflects it. Why would anyone take offense to this if it doesn't go against what you BELIEVE? If you agreed with Nye's statement why would you boo him? What other conclusion are we supposed to come to? show me a great deal about the intent and agenda of Nye Now now, that's an assumption. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 0 Posted September 6, 2007 No, his point was that the moon doesn't emit its own light; it reflects the light of the sun I understand that but the Bible doesn't say that the moon emits light or doesn't reflect it, it merely states that it is light. Not sure how that is such a big deal to Bill Nye or to the people watching him since it can be interpreted any number of ways. That was kind of a dumb statement on his part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted September 6, 2007 I understand that but the Bible doesn't say that the moon emits light or doesn't reflect it, it merely states that it is light. Not sure how that is such a big deal to Bill Nye or to the people watching him since it can be interpreted any number of ways. That was kind of a dumb statement on his part. Agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schaef2k 0 Posted September 6, 2007 who the fock teaches creation in biology class? I grew up in a southern baptist Texor town and I assure you they are teaching biology in biology class. Kansas and Pa both did it and later it was overturned after the school board was up for election. People pushing for creation to be taught with evolution want it taught in biology (or a general science) class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,905 Posted September 6, 2007 BS When you start teaching creation in biology class you erode the foundations of science for our youth. What kind of message does that send to a kid growing up today? Churches and religion have been teaching the "value" of their product ad nauseum FOREVER(think Sunday school for a simple example) yet somehow science has persevered--- People used to be jailed, even executed for going against religious beliefs in this planet's history, yet we still now are able to say, with 100% confidence, that the Earth is not the center of the universe. Science has moved on. So to say because schools teach creation in biology and science is going to disappear behind the veil of religion is just a silly statement to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 6, 2007 This story was half written before the "lesson" even started. Now who's making assumptions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 Fat, Bald & Texan 5 Posted September 6, 2007 Kansas and Pa both did it and later it was overturned after the school board was up for election. People pushing for creation to be taught with evolution want it taught in biology (or a general science) class. the thread is about Texor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schaef2k 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Churches and religion have been teaching the "value" of their product ad nauseum FOREVER(think Sunday school for a simple example) yet somehow science has persevered---People used to be jailed, even executed for going against religious beliefs in this planet's history, yet we still now are able to say, with 100% confidence, that the Earth is not the center of the universe. Science has moved on. So to say because schools teach creation in biology and science is going to disappear behind the veil of religion is just a silly statement to me. So it's ok that religion does these things? Because it's happened in the past it's ok now? Facts are facts, the US is behind many other countries in math and science and confusing our youth with the notion that creation is on equal footing with other sciences is helping to further this. When Jim Bob gets to college they are not going to be asking creation questions in biology 101. It is a disservice to him to allow this to be taught earlier in his schooling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schaef2k 0 Posted September 6, 2007 the thread is about Texor. I thought it was about ignorant hicks, my bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,315 Posted September 6, 2007 When Jim Bob gets to college they are not going to be asking creation questions in biology 101. It is a disservice to him to allow this to be taught earlier in his schooling. If Billy Bob attends Bob Jones University they will. These people have their own accredited colleges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites