Baseball Hall of Fame class of 2008 2:00pm today

[edjr 6,898]

No dominant players up in 2008.

 

Rumors are Rich "Goose" Gossage will make it.

 

Jim Rice is the next best candidate.

 

LET'S GO JIM ED RICE!!! about time this guy gets into the HOF!!

 

The HOF is only going to mean something for a couple more years before roid heads start getting in.

[patweisers44 865]

Ozzie Focking Smith gets in on the first ballot and guys like Jim Rice, Alan Trammell and Jack Morris dont get a sniff? there may be more.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

The HOF is only going to mean something for a couple more years before roid heads start getting in.

It was Vitamin B-12

[kilroy69 1,268]

No dominant players up in 2008.

The Goose is the most dominant closer of all time. Its a shame it has taken him this long to get in.

 

 

From espn

 

"I'm going to unfurl this rant one final time: Goose Gossage was the most dominating closer ever. Ever. And I don't care who else you want to throw up there against him. Go right ahead. Want to take Mariano Rivera? Great. Let's compare them.

 

Stacking up save totals doesn't work, because Gossage was pitching in a time when managers were mysteriously using their closers in an attempt to (gasp) win games, as opposed to just helping them pile up save totals. So let's toss out saves and stack up Rivera's 11 full seasons as a closer versus the Goose's first 11 full seasons as a closer.

 

Want to pick a category? Be my guest. ERA? Gossage 2.21, Rivera 2.35. Strikeouts? Goose 8.54 whiffs per 9 innings, Rivera 8.09. Unhittability? Gossage 6.59 hits per 9 innings, Rivera 7.17.

 

So … any more questions? And remember, the Goose was unleashing all that domination even though he was routinely being asked to pitch 100 to 141 innings (yep, 141) a year"

[patweisers44 865]

The Goose is the most dominant closer of all time. Its a shame it has taken him this long to get in.

From espn

 

"I'm going to unfurl this rant one final time: Goose Gossage was the most dominating closer ever. Ever. And I don't care who else you want to throw up there against him. Go right ahead. Want to take Mariano Rivera? Great. Let's compare them.

 

Stacking up save totals doesn't work, because Gossage was pitching in a time when managers were mysteriously using their closers in an attempt to (gasp) win games, as opposed to just helping them pile up save totals. So let's toss out saves and stack up Rivera's 11 full seasons as a closer versus the Goose's first 11 full seasons as a closer.

 

Want to pick a category? Be my guest. ERA? Gossage 2.21, Rivera 2.35. Strikeouts? Goose 8.54 whiffs per 9 innings, Rivera 8.09. Unhittability? Gossage 6.59 hits per 9 innings, Rivera 7.17.

 

So … any more questions? And remember, the Goose was unleashing all that domination even though he was routinely being asked to pitch 100 to 141 innings (yep, 141) a year"

he belongs....

[KSB2424 3,173]

Is Andre Dawson part of the beginning of the "Steroid Era" ?

[mighty_thor 115]

The Goose is the most dominant closer of all time. Its a shame it has taken him this long to get in.

From espn

 

"I'm going to unfurl this rant one final time: Goose Gossage was the most dominating closer ever. Ever. And I don't care who else you want to throw up there against him. Go right ahead. Want to take Mariano Rivera? Great. Let's compare them.

 

Stacking up save totals doesn't work, because Gossage was pitching in a time when managers were mysteriously using their closers in an attempt to (gasp) win games, as opposed to just helping them pile up save totals. So let's toss out saves and stack up Rivera's 11 full seasons as a closer versus the Goose's first 11 full seasons as a closer.

 

Want to pick a category? Be my guest. ERA? Gossage 2.21, Rivera 2.35. Strikeouts? Goose 8.54 whiffs per 9 innings, Rivera 8.09. Unhittability? Gossage 6.59 hits per 9 innings, Rivera 7.17.

 

So … any more questions? And remember, the Goose was unleashing all that domination even though he was routinely being asked to pitch 100 to 141 innings (yep, 141) a year"

 

I agree Goose was a dominant closer and one of the best ever. But Mariano has pitched in the steroid era so you have to look at those stats a little different.

[kilroy69 1,268]

Is Andre Dawson part of the beginning of the "Steroid Era" ?

He belongs to that group of players that played up north in the wasteland known as canuckland. So no one even saw him play.

[$epphori$ 118]

The Goose is the most dominant closer of all time. Its a shame it has taken him this long to get in.

From espn

 

"I'm going to unfurl this rant one final time: Goose Gossage was the most dominating closer ever. Ever. And I don't care who else you want to throw up there against him. Go right ahead. Want to take Mariano Rivera? Great. Let's compare them.

 

Stacking up save totals doesn't work, because Gossage was pitching in a time when managers were mysteriously using their closers in an attempt to (gasp) win games, as opposed to just helping them pile up save totals. So let's toss out saves and stack up Rivera's 11 full seasons as a closer versus the Goose's first 11 full seasons as a closer.

 

Want to pick a category? Be my guest. ERA? Gossage 2.21, Rivera 2.35. Strikeouts? Goose 8.54 whiffs per 9 innings, Rivera 8.09. Unhittability? Gossage 6.59 hits per 9 innings, Rivera 7.17.

 

So … any more questions? And remember, the Goose was unleashing all that domination even though he was routinely being asked to pitch 100 to 141 innings (yep, 141) a year"

 

Papelbon is better

[cgod 0]

Jim Rice is the next best candidate.

 

LET'S GO JIM ED RICE!!! about time this guy gets into the HOF!!

:pray:

[kilroy69 1,268]

Papelbon is better

The kid has a LONG way before he is even in the discussion with goose.

[$epphori$ 118]

The kid has a LONG way before he is even in the discussion with goose.

 

I was bait'n

[NewbieJr 541]

The HOF is only going to mean something for a couple more years before roid heads start getting in.

Sounds like somebody's finally coming around.

[kilroy69 1,268]

I was bait'n

I figured.

 

 

This is also the first time Big Mac is on the ballot. I can't see him getting in anytime soon.

[KSB2424 3,173]

I figured.

This is also the first time Big Mac is on the ballot. I can't see him getting in anytime soon.

If they don't let Big Mac in, then NOBODY from the steroid era should be voted in. Since we don't know who all did what, it's either all or nothing.

[NewbieJr 541]

If they don't let Big Mac in, then NOBODY from the steroid era should be voted in. Since we don't know who all did what, it's either all or nothing.

Since there wasn't testing and none of the big name roiders have enough balls to admit they were taking them, you have to go by sense of judgement. McGwire was definitely on them, so he shouldn't get in. Add to that, Palmiero, Giambi, Bonds, and Sosa. None of them should get in. There may be more.

[BlackClouds 24]

Chuck Finley

[patweisers44 865]

Goose in, Rice just misses

and

[edjr 6,898]

It's official. Baseball writers are complete focking idiots.

[Thornton Melon 648]

Focking ridiculous....

[NewbieJr 541]

It's official. Baseball writers are complete focking idiots.

why?

[patweisers44 865]

It's official. Baseball writers are complete focking idiots.

Chicago Cubs Win World Series!!

[TommyGavin 790]

It's official. Baseball writers are complete focking idiots.

[mighty_thor 115]

I figured.

This is also the first time Big Mac is on the ballot. I can't see him getting in anytime soon.

 

he was eligible last year.

[BlackClouds 24]

Chuck Finley

Chuck Finley 1 vote

[patweisers44 865]

Chuck Finley 1 vote

I'm guessing Tawny Kitaen didnt put him on her ballot.

[pingpong 0]

Why does the veteransd committe elect so many no-names? Waters down the whole HoF IMO.

[kilroy69 1,268]

he was eligible last year.

Yea I realized that a little too late.

[kilroy69 1,268]

why?

Because Jim Rice did not get in again. I have to assume that next year he will. His numbers went up this year its his last year before he goes to the veterens vote.

 

on a side note Rickey Henderson is on the ballot for the first time next year. I can sum up his speech for ya a year in advance because he will be a first ballot hof player.

 

 

Rickeys speech

Rickey had a long and fruitful career in which rickey was the best leadoff hitter dat the game have ever seen. Rickey stole bases like dey said something bad bout rickeys momma. Rickey can't believe it took rickey dis long to get on the ballot for the HOF. I mean do dees people know who rickey is? Rickey would like to thank all the little people who helped him get where he is today and most of all he would like to thank rickey. Because without you rickey none of dis could be made possible.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

Because Jim Rice did not get in again. I have to assume that next year he will. His numbers went up this year its his last year before he goes to the veterens vote.

 

on a side note Rickey Henderson is on the ballot for the first time next year. I can sum up his speech for ya a year in advance because he will be a first ballot hof player.

Rickeys speech

Rickey had a long and fruitful career in which rickey was the best leadoff hitter the game have ever seen. Rickey stole bases like they said something bad about rickeys momma. Rickey can't believe it took rickey this long to get on the ballot for the HOF. I mean do these people know who rickey is? Rickey would like to thank all the little people who helped him get where he is today and most of all he would like to thank rickey. Because without you rickey none of this could be made possible.

 

I think that you are missing a few "dees, dats and dose".

 

 

 

 

 

I am sorry for my insensitive remarks, but I couldn't help it

[kilroy69 1,268]

I fixed it.

[NewbieJr 541]

Because Jim Rice did not get in again. I have to assume that next year he will. His numbers went up this year its his last year before he goes to the veterens vote.

I just went back and looked at his career stats. He's definitely not a no-brainer, but I think he'll eventually get in. Very good RBI numbers.

[kilroy69 1,268]

I just went back and looked at his career stats. He's definitely not a no-brainer, but I think he'll eventually get in. Very good RBI numbers.

we're supposed to be comparing players to other players in their time, not anybody else's time. And that's where Rice becomes more than the sum of his 382 career homers.

 

It tells you something that this guy was a top-five finisher in six MVP elections. It tells you something that, in his 12 seasons of domination from 1975 to '86, he led everyone in his league in homers, RBIs, runs, slugging and extra-base hits. It tells you something that in all of those categories except home runs, the only player even close to him was the great George Brett.

[BMoney 0]

he was eligible last year.

 

 

and had the same # of votes as last year....has to be the same st louis goofs....

[kilroy69 1,268]

and had the same # of votes as last year....has to be the same st louis goofs....

thats what I thought. The exact same amount of votes.

[swamp dog 0]

ah, i still remember that stupid fock goose giving up the long ball to gibby in the 84 world series to seal the deal for the tigers

 

thanks for the memories, goose!

[kilroy69 1,268]

ah, i still remember that stupid fock goose giving up the long ball to gibby in the 84 world series to seal the deal for the tigers

 

thanks for the memories, goose!

He also gave up the home run in the "pine tar incident"

[cgod 0]

[Voltaire 5,491]

Ozzie Focking Smith gets in on the first ballot and guys like Jim Rice, Alan Trammell and Jack Morris dont get a sniff? there may be more.

 

Although his batting wasn't HOF material, Ozzy Smith had the most amazing glove ever. I suspect that this steroids era will blankout a lot of more recent players which will alow some deserving other names like these from previous generations to get in.

[edjr 6,898]

Assuming Rice gets in next year, it could shape up to be 2 of the most memorable HOF speechs ever.

 

Jim Rice will speak for 90 seconds and Ricky Henderson will speak incoherently for 30 minutes.

 

Seriously, will there be an interpreter for his HOF speech?