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  1. 1. Which is the best fantasy player of all-time?

    • LaDanian Tomlinson
      22
    • Preist Holmes
      8
    • Marshall Faulk
      33
    • Kurt Warner
      3
    • Peyton Manning
      1
    • Randy Moss
      1
    • Brett Favre
      0
    • Emmitt Smith
      7
    • Barry Sanders
      2
    • Other
      2


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Tough question.

 

Smith and Sanders deserve consideration, but they were before I was into FF, so I didn't witness firstahand their domination.

 

Faulk had a nice run where he put up some gawdy stats. He's in the discussion for sure. Holmes was dominant, but only for a brief stretch.

 

Ultimately, I went with LT. The guy is starting to tail off, but for 7-8 years, he has been a FF cornerstone. He arguably had the greatest FF season a few years ago, and singlehandedly brought championships to millions of owners.

 

LT gets my vote for longevity and consistency.

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it depends on league scoring but I think its pretty safe to say LT's 2006 season was the best single season FF performance. The guy scored 31 total TD's... and when has he failed to be a top 10 fantasy RB? his rookie season maybe?

 

im not looking it up but I would venture to guess that more often than not he has been a top 5 PPR back.

 

while many of these names have had some nice stretches, the only one who comes close imo is Marshall for his seasons like 2000 and 2001 with the Rams when he was catching 80+ balls to go along with 20+ total TD's in those years.

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I voted Faulk. LT2 is prolly the choice, but Faulk was the man for several years. He was the first dynamite guy and has a special place in my heart. :thumbsup:

 

I think Kurt Warner may have single handidly brought more FF championships however. The team owner who picked him up the first year he blew up won it all 9 times out 10 leagues. :music_guitarred:

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Emmitt Smith

Brett Favre

Marshall Faulk

Priest Holmes

Ladanian Tomlinson

 

that would be the list to start from if we go back to the early 90s.

 

and starting with Faulk thru LT... they have been the Kings of fantasy production.

offensive records were set under these guys, statistical production that has never before been seen.

So, there really isn't much room for debate.

Fantasy football is numbers/stats and these three put up the best numbers.

 

 

When we say Greatest of All-Time are we talking single season?

because that's LT's 2323yards, 31TDs in 2006 (418 fantasy points)

 

 

or are we saying high productivity for a number of seasons?

lets compare Faulk/Priest/LT:

 

Faulk:
1998 2227, 10TD (282 fantasy points)
1999 2429, 12TD (314 fantasy points)
2000 2189, 26TD (374 fantrasy points)
2001 2147, 21TD (340 fantasy points)
4 year average: 327.5 fantasy points
best 3 years average: 342.6

Priest:
2001 2169, 10 (276 fantasy points)
2002 2287 24  (368 fp)
2003 2110 27 (373 fp)
2004 1079 15 (197 fp)
4 year average: (303.3 fp)
best 3 years average: (339 fp)

 

LT:
2002 2172 15
2003 2370 17 (339fp)
2004 1776 18 (285fp)
2005 1832 20 (303 fp)
2006 2323 31 (418 fp)
2007 1949 18 (302 fp)
5 year average (329.4 fp)
best 4 years average (340.5 fp)
best 3 years average (353.3 fp)

So, after looking at the numbers, it becomes clear that LT is the true king of fantasy football.

He has 5 elite seasons to choose from to go along with the single greatest fantasy season (RB).

His top 3 and 4 season averages are above both Priest and Faulk.

I'm not a big LT fan.

But there is no questioning his numbers and statistical dominance.

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Emmitt Smith

Brett Favre

Marshall Faulk

Priest Holmes

Ladanian Tomlinson

 

that would be the list to start from if we go back to the early 90s.

 

and starting with Faulk thru LT... they have been the Kings of fantasy production.

offensive records were set under these guys, statistical production that has never before been seen.

So, there really isn't much room for debate.

Fantasy football is numbers/stats and these three put up the best numbers.

 

 

When we say Greatest of All-Time are we talking single season?

because that's LT's 2323yards, 31TDs in 2006 (418 fantasy points)

 

 

or are we saying high productivity for a number of seasons?

lets compare Faulk/Priest/LT:

 

Faulk:
1998 2227, 10TD (282 fantasy points)
1999 2429, 12TD (314 fantasy points)
2000 2189, 26TD (374 fantrasy points)
2001 2147, 21TD (340 fantasy points)
4 year average: 327.5 fantasy points
best 3 years average: 342.6

Priest:
2001 2169, 10 (276 fantasy points)
2002 2287 24  (368 fp)
2003 2110 27 (373 fp)
2004 1079 15 (197 fp)
4 year average: (303.3 fp)
best 3 years average: (339 fp)

 

LT:
2002 2172 15
2003 2370 17 (339fp)
2004 1776 18 (285fp)
2005 1832 20 (303 fp)
2006 2323 31 (418 fp)
2007 1949 18 (302 fp)
5 year average (329.4 fp)
best 4 years average (340.5 fp)
best 3 years average (353.3 fp)

So, after looking at the numbers, it becomes clear that LT is the true king of fantasy football.

He has 5 elite seasons to choose from to go along with the single greatest fantasy season (RB).

His top 3 and 4 season averages are above both Priest and Faulk.

I'm not a big LT fan.

But there is no questioning his numbers and statistical dominance.

 

Solid analysis.......so how does Favre rank ahead of all these guys? Was he really that dominant, considering all the INT's?

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Solid analysis.......so how does Favre rank ahead of all these guys? Was he really that dominant, considering all the INT's?

 

I didn't intend to rank Favre or Emmitt ahead of anyone.

Just saying they'd be considered and they were first on the list because of chronology.

 

I just remember Favre and Emmitt being dominant in the 90s.

Favre:

38, 39, 35, 31 TDs with (about) 4000 yards each year 95, 95, 97, 98

 

that's 4 straight years of 4000 30+.

pretty impressive.

 

not sure how it stacks up.

now we're getting into QBs vs. RBs.

 

IMO, RBs are still and always will be the backbones of fantasy teams.

RBs are the most valuable position.

RBs still dominant the first round in drafts.

 

for this reason I did not bring up Brady/Moss in the 2007 season.

Sure, statistically dominant, but it's a QB and WR.... they can't compete with a RB.

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Before my league changed to decimal scoring

 

Marshall Faulk for my league's scoring.

 

There is a bonus for a RB that catches for more than 50 yards and or a receiving td

 

 

if you add in QB's to the conversation, it very well could be fav-ruh or manning

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Before my league changed to decimal scoring

 

Marshall Faulk for my league's scoring.

 

There is a bonus for a RB that catches for more than 50 yards and or a receiving td

 

 

I think that for this debate, you can't include all the unique rules that leagues have.

you have to assume standard, non-ppr scoring: 1pt/10yards, 6/td.

keep it simple/basic.

 

we'll have some clown arguing that his league rewards triple points for out-of-position scoring and Colston (TE) and Reggie Bush are the greatest fantasy players ever.

oh and don't forget the 1,000 point day David PatterN had a few years ago either!

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What about CPepp? :nono:

 

Here is my league scoring leaders for QB and RB since 2000

 

2000

Culpepper, Daunte 418.8

James, Edgerrin 354.8

 

2001

Garcia, Jeff 361.4

Green, Ahman 268.8

 

2002

Culpepper, Daunte 357.3

Williams, Ricky 324.2

 

2003

Culpepper, Daunte 399.1

Tomlinson, LaDainian 394.2

 

2004

Culpepper, Daunte 434.4

Alexander, Shaun 317.6

 

2005

Palmer, Carson 393.2

Alexander, Shaun 389.7

 

2006

Tomlinson, LaDainian 485.4

Manning, Peyton 407.0

 

2007

Brady, Tom QB 572.3

Tomlinson, LaDainian 349.6

 

2008

Brees, Drew 428.6

Williams, DeAngelo 332.8

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If you were talking single season you cant leave out Terrell Davis..2000 yard season and 21 TDs, and 200 plus receiving and 2 more TDs. He was an absolute fantasy beast, but unfortunately similar to Priest Holmes, it was only about 3 years.

 

LT is definitely the greatest.

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Don't know about Greatest of all time but there was a 4 year period in the 90's where Terrell Davis was the greatest at that time. I rode his back to several FF Super Bowls.

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I think that for this debate, you can't include all the unique rules that leagues have.

you have to assume standard, non-ppr scoring: 1pt/10yards, 6/td.

keep it simple/basic.

 

we'll have some clown arguing that his league rewards triple points for out-of-position scoring and Colston (TE) and Reggie Bush are the greatest fantasy players ever.

oh and don't forget the 1,000 point day David PatterN had a few years ago either!

 

i think PPR is becoming standard enough these days that it can be a part of the debate at least.

 

but I agree we can't include yardage bonuses or out of position scoring bonuses and stuff like that. Its not standard enough.

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Marshall Faulk in 2002 or 2003? i forget which year... I got to watch the season from atop his shoulders... it was a fun year...

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i voted faulk.

 

lot of guys deserve consideration, including culpepper [agree he should be on the list] and rice for power and longevity. there are a lot of ultra-explosive/destructive forces in fantasy [moss, barry, westbrook], and to me it is about longevity versus crowns.

 

tomlinson has given a nice 6-7 yr track record, but i say u only really assured 1 crown during his tenure: aside from his career yr, alexander and LJ were producing similar stats during the tenure, along with flashes from ahman green [career 1800-20] and ricky williams [career 1800-17], so the "other owner" had the same nuclear bomb u did.

 

priest holmes also had a powerful 2 yr crown level, but i give him 3yrs because his system was so awesome, that 3rd season when he posted 900/14, it was lights out for that half a yr, and owning the backup finished off the rest of the season. it also merged and gave birth to LJ back-to-back monster yrs [so the kc run game has a 5 yr crown stretch].

 

if the choice had been "rams qb position", then id vote with this---the stretch from '99-01 was sick, in yds and TDs, whether it was warner or trent green.

 

faulk was a machine, pure and simple. the back-to-back 20+TD seasons is just his start: the 5 straight yrs of 700+rec yds, including 2 times approaching 1000 and 1 time hitting it, the 5 straight seasons of 80+recs [how many wideouts can boast that feat??!!], and most importantly, the timely explosive game when u needed it. no one was doing it like faulk during his stretch [tdavis was out by then; edge had started, was awesome, but not at that ultra-elite level]. i gave it to him. :pointstosky: :nono:

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I owned Faulk and he was the reason our 1 player keeper league created a rule against keeping a guy for more than 3 seasons...

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I owned Faulk and he was the reason our 1 player keeper league created a rule against keeping a guy for more than 3 seasons...

 

that says it all----there has to be a rule made cause the player is making it unfair. :pointstosky:

 

[just like in madden from 1999-2004 where my crew had a "anti-moss rule" cause it was unfair to keep bombing it to him.....]

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it depends on league scoring but I think its pretty safe to say LT's 2006 season was the best single season FF performance. The guy scored 31 total TD's... and when has he failed to be a top 10 fantasy RB? his rookie season maybe?

 

In my league, thrown TD's count so he actually had 33 TD's in 2006. He made me some cash that year. :pointstosky:

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I voted for Faulk. Too good for too long. Don't forget the Indy years.

 

If it was single season I might give it to Brady 2 years ago. He was so far ahead of everybody QBs and RBs that year.

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Faulk, Favre, Moss and LT have to be in the discussion....Favre has just done it for so many years but QB has that unfair advantage.

 

So Id give it to Faulk for the reasons others ahve mentioned.

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Best fantay QB ever: Peyton Manning......2nd Minnesota QB's Jeff George, Randall Cunningham, Daunte Culpepper

 

Best fantasy RB ever: Marshall Faulk.....2nd Ladainian Tomlinson

 

Best fantasy WR ever: Randy Moss.....2nd Marvin Harrison

 

Best Fantasy TE ever: Tony Gonzalez.....2nd Wesley Walls

 

Best Fantasy K ever: Jason Elam.....2nd John Kasay

 

Best Fantasy D ever: Chicago Bears.....2nd Baltimore Ravens

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My first year of playing FF, I had the #1 pick in the draft. Novice that I was, I passed on Faulk to take Warner. I then watched, aghast, as Faulk piled up stupifying point totals. There were several weeks in which Faulk alone outscored an opponent's entire FF team. I voted for Faulk, in part because he taught me a lesson I shan't forget.

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I voted Faulk but I'm biased. My first year in FF: got a call from a good friend, he was in a fantasy league with other people I knew from our company, it was two days before the draft and an owner backed out, was I interested? This was a keeper league, and as I dug into this new hobby, I found that only Dorsey Levens and Mark Brunell :wall: were worth keeping. So we have our draft and afterwards, that same friend liked Levens and traded me that guy who was moving from Indy to STL... he hasn't traded with me again since that day. :thumbsdown:

 

As a bonus, in the actual draft I took as my #2 QB the guy who was slated to throw to Carter and Moss. I figured that since they were rated so high, the QB throwing to them must be an OK play? Enter Culp.

 

I still use that strategery by the way. :pointstosky:

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Hey Jerryskids

 

Does that mean you are taking ORTON #2?

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Ive won 4 titles with Warner and had him on my team 5 times.i think Shawn Alexander should of got some love.

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