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Check out the 08 stats: When the Pack were leading games - Jennings had only 17 catches and 258 yards, when trailing opponents? 41 catches and 743 yards. All I'm saying is that they will be leading in more games in 09 and Jennings is not as much of a ball-control weapon. I guess we'll see...

yeah but that focker can take that GB slant to the house from anywhere on the field :cheers:

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I cannot ever remember a 6-10 team coming into the next season actually being overrated but we may have a winner. Crack open a Schlitz green and gold fans. :shocking:

 

Oh yeah one more thing. Last week Greg Jennings was knocked out during the game and the Packer fans really didn't seem to care. He was standing there so he had to be ok and they scored alot of points so all was good. Unreal.

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best post in this thread!

 

:shocking: :headbanger: :pointstosky:

 

 

Most insightful post and enlightening/thought-provoking contribution to this thread.......mesmerizing.

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I cannot ever remember a 6-10 team coming into the next season actually being overrated but we may have a winner. Crack open a Schlitz green and gold fans. :music_guitarred:

 

Oh yeah one more thing. Last week Greg Jennings was knocked out during the game and the Packer fans really didn't seem to care. He was standing there so he had to be ok and they scored alot of points so all was good. Unreal.

 

Umm...did not seem to care?

You were not paying very good attention then.

He was not just standing there...he was talking and laughing with the doctors and his teammates on the sidelines not long after.

But when he was first down...nobody cared?

Wow you are an idiot.

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his total upside is right on the heels of these guys due to his already proven elite TD potential. this guy has posted seasons of 12TDs and 9TDs over the past 2 campaigns, plus his qb looks like he is ready to attain jedimaster control of his offense.

 

this alone puts him ahead of the next guys on the wr list---wayne's only elite TD yr was the record 49passes of manning back in 2004; roddy has not hit that tally yet, and would be hard pressed to do so even with an increase in the play of ryan because of gonzo's presence; steve shrimp has hit 10+TDs only once ever [career yr 2005] and cannot smell that tally since. as a matter of fact, andre johnosn himself is a crap TD threat [8 scores off 115 grabs last yr, a terrible ~15recs/TD ratio].

 

for the OP to say he is not superior wr1 material is foolish; he is not yet ultra elite, but he is elite.

You summed up my thoughts 100%. 10 Td's is THE line which separates the top wr's from the pack. In a game of probability, Jennings has a really good shot to get there again.

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Jennings is a leadpipe for 80-1200-14 this year, im actually even expecting better

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Jennings is a leadpipe for 80-1200-14 this year, im actually even expecting better

 

when yer mom speaks, you need to listen :headbanger:

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Check out the 08 stats: When the Pack were leading games - Jennings had only 17 catches and 258 yards, when trailing opponents? 41 catches and 743 yards. All I'm saying is that they will be leading in more games in 09 and Jennings is not as much of a ball-control weapon. I guess we'll see...

This stat is rather meaningless without context. The Packers were a 6-10 team... they lost the majority of their games, of course they are going to be behind more than they are winning (even my own assumption is somewhat meaningless w/o context.)

 

Anyone who watched him play last year realizes what a talent he is... a point everyone seems to be negating is the improvement of the QB position... this is no longer Rodgers first year, and there should be more of a connection between the two. Also, this is his fourth year in the league and is only twenty five... he is still improving.

 

Lastly, anyone who honestly thinks James Jones, Donald Driver, Jermichael Finley (sweet preseason game... lolz), and Jordy Nelson will hurt Jennings rather than help him in coverage... well, I just disagree there I guess.

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Check out the 08 stats: When the Pack were leading games - Jennings had only 17 catches and 258 yards, when trailing opponents? 41 catches and 743 yards. All I'm saying is that they will be leading in more games in 09 and Jennings is not as much of a ball-control weapon. I guess we'll see...

 

You must not understand math and logics to throw out a stat like that. It's not about how many catches, its at what RATE he made catches when behind/ahead. And as a 6-10 team, of course he would have more volume of his work when behind...take this not-so-real example to illustrate the point:

 

If a player catches 10 passes in 30 minutes of time when his team is behind, he's averaging a catch every 3 minutes.

 

If a player only catches 3 passes in 9 minutes when his team is ahead, he's still averaging a catch every 3 minutes.

 

All you need to do is now look at what % of the time GB was ahead and behind, and then compare rates.

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Situational stats.

When ahead 17 receptions for 258 yards 0 TDs

When tied 22 receptions for 291 yards 5 TDs

When behind 41 receptions for 743 yards 4 TDs

 

Receptions and yards up when behind (obviously with a 6-10 team they were behind more than ahead and that will be typical of nearly every WR).

TDs were more when the team was tied.

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Situational stats.

When ahead 17 receptions for 258 yards 0 TDs

When tied 22 receptions for 291 yards 5 TDs

When behind 41 receptions for 743 yards 4 TDs

 

Receptions and yards up when behind (obviously with a 6-10 team they were behind more than ahead and that will be typical of nearly every WR).

TDs were more when the team was tied.

Ya, it could be that a 6-10 team just wasn't ahead much. Hard to populate a category when it's never in play.

 

We have officially reached analysis paralysis at this point.

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Ya, it could be that a 6-10 team just wasn't ahead much. Hard to populate a category when it's never in play.

 

We have officially reached analysis paralysis at this point.

 

Agreed.

Its not like the guy sucked in 2007 when they were...oh, 13-3.

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I snagged Driver as my # 3 Wr in the 8th round after going RB RB RB the first 3 rounds.... I couldn't be happier...

You took a #3 RB before your #1 WR ? in anticipationof a future trade ????

 

That = bad drafting.

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Green Bay faces really easy passing defenses this year, and a slightly tough schedule for running defenses. Donald Driver is another year older, and in non-PPR leagues isn't nearly as good as PPR. Green Bay should post more wins this year, and hopefully not have the minor injury drama from the QB. So, all good signs for another great year for Jennings.

 

I had Jennings graded as my #4 WR behind Fitz, Moss, and A Johnson. I narrowly missed drafting him... very bummed.

 

 

GB Running SOS isn't that tough. The first 2/3 of the season, they have the 10th easiest RB SOS. Sorry to say it to all of the SOS haters.

 

Ryan Grant will be a top 5 RB. I have been high on him all year. He is a STUD

 

We all know how good Rodgers was last year, the D is way better. Yes, Way Better, and they only nurse the clock the last 5 minutes. So when they are blowing out people, the might run it a couple times, but then they will throw it and a lot of balls will go GJs way.

 

I want Jennings

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Greg Jennings, potential bust? Are you crazy? Only if he gets injured.

 

You could ask: MJD, potential bust? Fitz, potential bust? ADP potential bust?

 

you are seeing problems that are not there, sir.

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Greg Jennings, potential bust? Are you crazy? Only if he gets injured.

 

You could ask: MJD, potential bust? Fitz, potential bust? ADP potential bust?

 

you are seeing problems that are not there, sir.

 

Madd, I must say.......Jennings is more likely to bust than Fitz.

Do I expect it? No.

Potential bust for Jennings, as compared to ADP? Yes.

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Disagree!!

 

If Jennings has a bad year then this results into Aaron Rodgers having a bad year.

 

I don't think Rodgers will have a bad year. He will be a Top 4 QB by the end of the year resulting in Jennings to be a top WR.

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I took Greg Jennings at the end of the 3rd round. And I feel like I got a little steal. He should match his 07 production this year.

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I took Greg Jennings at the end of the 3rd round. And I feel like I got a little steal. He should match his 07 production this year.

 

 

Has he really fallen that far because of his concussion, or are you playing with a bunch of snapper-heads like me, who think that he might possibly be a top-shelf WR2 as opposed to a top 5 WR1 this season?

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Strike One....

:overhead: What a d-bag. You gonna lay in wait for whenever he has 1 off game? Where were you last week. You have zero credibility.

 

Useless

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:overhead: What a d-bag. You gonna lay in wait for whenever he has 1 off game? Where were you last week. You have zero credibility.

 

Useless

One game off???? 0/0/0.....don't make me laugh, snapperhead.

 

I own Jennings, numbnut, so I sure as heck ain't laying in wait hoping he has a bad game, much less a bad season. I lost by 2 points to a divisional opponent today because my WR1 laid an egg. When you can't count on your WR1 to get you 3 friggin' points because the ball is getting spread around so much to a talented corp of receivers (as was my original premise), you have a potential problem.

I was hoping to be wrong....and still am. I drafted him for a reason.....because he is an immensely talented WR in a high powered offense. If you would take a look at the title of this thread it says "potential bust". When you don't take the time to read the thread, but just hop in here spewing crap, you end up looking like the d-bag and, therefore, lose all credibililty, if indeed any ever existed. In my 1st post, I made it abundantly clear that, although I expect him to have a good year, I was concerned that he might potentially not live up to his high ADP. Today he did not....it is what it is.

30-40 yards with no TD's is an "off day" for a WR1. 0 yards is too costly.

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0 catches?

 

who does he think he is, Zach Miller? :thumbsdown:

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I hear all the anger towards Greg Jennings... I feel the same way towards Tom Brady.... Considering that he handles every single snap and that scrubs like Schaub and Rivers were scoring 40-plus points, he was completely shut out, too... (O TDs, 1 INT, a handful of yards)

 

I had to go ahead and cut him... The funny thing is that nobody is picking him up in my league -- probably because they know that like Greg Jennings - HE COULD LAY AN EGG AT ANY TIME -- and completely cost my FF team a week....

 

Nobody wants that to happen.

 

So, yes, excellent bump!

 

Put Jennings firmly on your bench or cut him....

 

I have to say, as a person watching the game, that if Jennings catches that first-quarter pass that hit him between the 8 and the 5 and that he makes 98 out of 100 times, he has nothing but 65 yards of Lambeau grass between him and the endzone because the lone defender completely wiffs on him.... I would definitely think differently about cutting him.

 

Also, if their best OL (Clifton) does not go down and his replacement completely gets worked silly to the tune of 5 sacks (for one guy!) and disrupts the offensive flow completely, Jennings day might be a completly different story.

 

I expect Clifton to sprain his ankle every game and I expect Jennings to drop easy balls, too.

He will never have a good game again. :(

 

R. Moss had 24 total yards on Sunday... I would bump a thread on him, too. :pointstosky:

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I also failed to mention that he got completely mugged on a 50-60 yard bomb....

 

 

Obviously, it takes a perfect storm to come up with a goose egg, but his targets are definitely there.

 

I would bump a thread like this if they weren't looking for him, but they were.

 

I would not leave him on your bench next week.... unless you're playing against me :pointstosky:

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:lol: What a d-bag. You gonna lay in wait for whenever he has 1 off game? Where were you last week. You have zero credibility.

 

Useless

 

OH JARVIS......?!?

 

Is my credibility improved yet? Is it safe to call him a bust yet?

 

For everyone else....I am sure that you are not gonna take the time to read this entire thread....understandably. In a nutshell, I got ripped to shreds for this thread I started before the season began. I was concerned that Jennings would bust in relation to his draft position because of all the quality targets that Rodgers has to throw to. Despite my misgivings, I couldn't resist him in the late 2nd round of a 12 team redraft because of his potential. I drafted him hoping to at least get last seasons #'s. I have played him all year in hopes that he would turn it around, and have paid the price for my loyalty. He now rides the pine, so I expect he goes off from here on out. Lesson learned: always trust your gut.

 

Bottomline: Barring 6 consecutive 100 yard/1 TD games.......Jennings is a BUST

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OH JARVIS......?!?

 

Is my credibility improved yet? Is it safe to call him a bust yet?

 

For everyone else....I am sure that you are not gonna take the time to read this entire thread....understandably. In a nutshell, I got ripped to shreds for this thread I started before the season began. I was concerned that Jennings would bust in relation to his draft position because of all the quality targets that Rodgers has to throw to. Despite my misgivings, I couldn't resist him in the late 2nd round of a 12 team redraft because of his potential. I drafted him hoping to at least get last seasons #'s. I have played him all year in hopes that he would turn it around, and have paid the price for my loyalty. He now rides the pine, so I expect he goes off from here on out. Lesson learned: always trust your gut.

 

Bottomline: Barring 6 consecutive 100 yard/1 TD games.......Jennings is a BUST

 

He's not a bust. I start him every week and am OK with him.

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He's not a bust. I start him every week and am OK with him.

 

Yes he is a bust compared to his ADP this year. I have him on my team and will keep him, but he will be on my bench for the rest of the year. I will gladly start Lavernanues Coles over him the rest of the way - (I plan on picking Coles up tonight on waivers).

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He's not a bust. I start him every week and am OK with him.

 

 

Just because you start a player every week doesn't mean he isn't a bust. Sadly, he has turned in to a bust for most of the season. Could he have a better remainder of the season? Sure, but it doesn't look promising at this point.

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he is a bust, and the worst kind of bust. He is so gifted physically and plays for such an explosive offense it is so hard to bench him, but week after week he puts up disappointing numbers.

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He's 24th WR in my ppr league based on fantasy points per game average which he has an average of 13.59

 

That's not a bust. Of course, I'm only 3-7 in that league so ... OK, he's a bust for where he was drafted, but he's still a quality starter when you can start 4 WRs. or even if I could only start 3.

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yeah but that focker can take that GB slant to the house from anywhere on the field :shocking:

 

Yeah, I remember when Green Bay used to run slant patterns. What changed in 2009?

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