cbfalcon 825 Posted March 23, 2011 blacks never do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted March 23, 2011 That's what you get for setting the bar at "Not being the worst President in the history of ever". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 519 Posted March 23, 2011 Because you thought he was different than every other politician in the country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted March 23, 2011 blacks never do? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,541 Posted March 23, 2011 Â 1) He's a lying dooshbag. Â 2) He's never had a real job in his life. Like most black men the concept of gainful employment is foreign to him. Â 3) His resume suggested exactly how he would govern but a lot of people such as yourself were duped by his "hope and change" bullsh*t. Â Take your pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WahooJim 4 Posted March 23, 2011 And now for something completely different Peenie, a serious response: Â Because he (mentioned above) has no real-world experience regarding anything, as he has never held a real job Because he has surrounded himself with idealogues, felons, tax-cheats and ne'er-do-wells in his cabinet and his enormous cadre of "czars" Because he is out of his league due to a lack of experience as a politician (his stay in the Senate was a joke) Because the leaders of his party have no interest in improving the lot of the average American, or anyone else for that matter, because they are idealogues (Pelosi/Reid are miserable punchlines), while the thoughtful, sincere members of his party have been marginalized, forced to leave the party or have retired out of disgust (Lieberman, Bayh, etc) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 23, 2011 1) He's a lying dooshbag. Â 2) He's never had a real job in his life. Like most black men the concept of gainful employment is foreign to him. Â 3) His resume suggested exactly how he would govern but a lot of people such as yourself were duped by his "hope and change" bullsh*t. Â Take your pick. Won Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,541 Posted March 23, 2011 And now for something completely different Peenie, a serious response: Â Because he (mentioned above) has no real-world experience regarding anything, as he has never held a real job Because he has surrounded himself with idealogues, felons, tax-cheats and ne'er-do-wells in his cabinet and his enormous cadre of "czars" Because he is out of his league due to a lack of experience as a politician (his stay in the Senate was a joke) Because the leaders of his party have no interest in improving the lot of the average American, or anyone else for that matter, because they are idealogues (Pelosi/Reid are miserable punchlines), while the thoughtful, sincere members of his party have been marginalized, forced to leave the party or have retired out of disgust (Lieberman, Bayh, etc) Â My numbers 1 and 3 were totally serious. And number 2 is a requirement for this bored. Â :banana: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WahooJim 4 Posted March 23, 2011 My numbers 1 and 3 were totally serious. And number 2 is a requirement for this bored. Â :banana: Â I humbly withdraw any implication that you weren't being serious. I think we used different language to agree on most things anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,541 Posted March 23, 2011 I humbly withdraw any implication that you weren't being serious. I think we used different language to agree on most things anyway. Â Yeah. I go for the short, concise answer. Yours had much greater detail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted March 23, 2011 Is it because he did not pay for your gas and mortgage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted March 23, 2011 Is it because he did not pay for your gas and mortgage? lol, f-u! (if only i had a mortgage) Â well, unlike you all, i don't think he's a total failure, i just don't think he has lived up to my expectations. i'm glad we don't have rampant homelessness and that did seem the case when he first entered office. i guess with unemployment extensions and some funds, people were able to eat and stay afloat. i just don't know what is going on. i would've voted for hilary clinton if i knew we'd end up in another war! that was really the only reason i voted for him because he said he wanted to end the iraq war and eventually get out of afghanistan. now here we are in libya!! i thought his life experience would make him more....less apt to want to bomb muslim countries. i don't know what the heck is going on with the healthcare situation. i thought he was a green president but yet look what the heck happened with the oil spill!! the economy is better, i admit that. i am happy about that, but i feel like...i feel like it doesn't matter who is president, the same ole sht is going to keep happening. somebody else's interests are being upheld and me as the working person is getting shafted. i thought finally, someone that understands the plight of the person who wasn't handed a silver spoon. i just don't see him governing in a way that has made any difference to my life. hell, we could've voted mccain in, i don't think it would've been any worse. i don't feel he's doing a crappy job, i just thought he would be more ideal. none of the things i imagined would happen has happened. he's cutting the pell grant! i thought he was the frigging education president! i've just fcking had it. i bet if we elected whathisname...that hippy dude...nader, is it nader? i bet if he was elected we'd still be in this very same situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted March 23, 2011 He's a politician. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 519 Posted March 23, 2011 that was really the only reason i voted for him because he's black. Â fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted March 24, 2011 lol, f-u! (if only i had a mortgage) Â well, unlike you all, i don't think he's a total failure, i just don't think he has lived up to my expectations. i'm glad we don't have rampant homelessness and that did seem the case when he first entered office. i guess with unemployment extensions and some funds, people were able to eat and stay afloat. i just don't know what is going on. i would've voted for hilary clinton if i knew we'd end up in another war! that was really the only reason i voted for him because he said he wanted to end the iraq war and eventually get out of afghanistan. now here we are in libya!! i thought his life experience would make him more....less apt to want to bomb muslim countries. i don't know what the heck is going on with the healthcare situation. i thought he was a green president but yet look what the heck happened with the oil spill!! the economy is better, i admit that. i am happy about that, but i feel like...i feel like it doesn't matter who is president, the same ole sht is going to keep happening. somebody else's interests are being upheld and me as the working person is getting shafted. i thought finally, someone that understands the plight of the person who wasn't handed a silver spoon. i just don't see him governing in a way that has made any difference to my life. hell, we could've voted mccain in, i don't think it would've been any worse. i don't feel he's doing a crappy job, i just thought he would be more ideal. none of the things i imagined would happen has happened. he's cutting the pell grant! i thought he was the frigging education president! i've just fcking had it. i bet if we elected whathisname...that hippy dude...nader, is it nader? i bet if he was elected we'd still be in this very same situation. Some of these are pretty funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted March 24, 2011 i'm glad we don't have rampant homelessness and that did seem the case when he first entered office.   Opps, maybe not  Homeless people: Government accused of 'misleading' figures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted March 24, 2011 I've learned this in my life: Â Â black people will generally stick up for other black people. But they won't tolerate your bullshit. Once you start screwing up, they'll let you have it. Obama is officially at the point where peenie is pissed off at him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,499 Posted March 24, 2011 Opps, maybe not  Homeless people: Government accused of 'misleading' figures The UK is blaming him for their problems, also? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted March 24, 2011 The UK is blaming him for their problems, also? Obama is out of control with this sh1t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,541 Posted March 24, 2011  i would've voted for hilary clinton if i knew we'd end up in another war! that was really the only reason i voted for him because he said he wanted to end the iraq war and eventually get out of afghanistan. now here we are in libya!!   Peenie,  See I like to think you're intelligent and up to speed on things. But when you say something like this I just go  I mean, you are aware that the only reason we're in Libya right now is that Hillary called him out for NOT acting on the situation, aren't you? She would have been in there weeks ago if she were President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted March 24, 2011 ^^no, i didn't know that. Â i didn't vote for him because he was black. i was not going to vote for mccain and palin, really, that's ridiculous. i would've voted for hillary but i felt she wasn't going to be open with talking to leaders in the middle east as obama was. he felt we were really handicapping cuba and that we need to revisit our relationship with them. i agree with those things, so i voted for him over hillary. it would be foolish to vote for someone just because they look like you. also, obama is not black like me. i am the product of slaves. my family members have been here for generations. black americans have common threads that obama is not a part of. my family comes from the farms and migrated from the south and lived through the civil rights movement, he has none of that history in common with me. obama married a black woman like me, but he himself is not black like me. but i must admit having a black family in the white house shows those people of color who may have lost faith that you can make it if you really try very hard. this country is a place of opportunity for us all and i did consider that when voting for him that he would be a good role model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted March 24, 2011 I'm pretty happy with the job President Obama is doing. I think he has made a few mistakes and failed to keep a couple of key promises. But that's what happens with all politicians. Â The reason some people are becoming disillusioned with Pres. Obama is because he promised so much when eh was running. He basically promised to fundamentally change the way politics is done in America and, lo and behold, it didn't turn out that way. If he hadn't promised the sun, the moon, and the stars, I think many people would be pretty happy with what he has done so far. Not the far right-wingers because they were going to hate him no matter what, but he would be doing better with the independents and liberals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,499 Posted March 24, 2011 i am the product of slaves. Quite possibly the dumbest thing ever posted here. Thanx for the new sig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted March 24, 2011 I will never again vote for a Republican or a Democrat. Both are a complete joke, bought and paid for wh0res. Our Democracy is a joke. We basically gather to vote for which colored dild0 you want to be sodomized with. Â ETA: Since when has Dild0 been on the language filter?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiPolarBear 485 Posted March 24, 2011 Am I the only person here who knows who Phil Gramm is? Do you know what he did to this country? This from Wiki:  William Philip "Phil" Gramm (born July 8, 1942) is an American economist and politician, who has served as a Democratic Congressman (1978–1983), a Republican Congressman (1983–1985) and a Republican Senator (1985–2002) from Texas . He was a senior economic adviser to John McCain's presidential campaign from the summer of 2007 until July 18, 2008.  (the bold text is mine)  Phil Gramm is a major reason our country is in ruin. I am not going to take the time to spell it out for you; look it up yourself. Our country may never recover its past greatness. Then McCain bring in who (!) as a VP? Oh, I'm sure she is most qualified.  Obama has not lived up to expectations. Would I vote for McCain if I had a do-over. No way.  Also, when you are pondering politics late at nite; consider that (basically) we are always around 50/50 for both major parties and things just don't seem to go too well. The jobs left our country...the infrastructure is crumbling, we have huge debt...who owns alot of that debt again? China?  Wise up. Politicians spend millions of dollars of their own money running for office because they want to help your miserable a$$? Palezze!! You don't think they could make more money than they spend do you? How could that be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 71 Posted March 24, 2011 Because you thought he was different than every other politician in the country. Â This pretty much sums it up. The expectations by the blacks were way out of line with any precedent from any former president. I actually heard some blacks comparing it to a religious experience..as if God himself made it possible for Obama to get elected. It was as if everyone thought their lives were magically gonna change just because he was black. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 71 Posted March 24, 2011 I'm pretty happy with the job President Obama is doing. I think he has made a few mistakes and failed to keep a couple of key promises. But that's what happens with all politicians. Â The reason some people are becoming disillusioned with Pres. Obama is because he promised so much when eh was running. He basically promised to fundamentally change the way politics is done in America and, lo and behold, it didn't turn out that way. If he hadn't promised the sun, the moon, and the stars, I think many people would be pretty happy with what he has done so far. Not the far right-wingers because they were going to hate him no matter what, but he would be doing better with the independents and liberals. Â Not like he's had any time to even concentrate on anything. He's trying to clean up 2 wars, a huge chunk of the Middle East/N. Africa decide to take a ######, the economy was in the sh*tter when he took over, and now Japan might fall into the ocean. Whether he's right or wrong, what a nightmare job for anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 71 Posted March 24, 2011 Â i would've voted for hilary clinton if i knew we'd end up in another war! that was really the only reason i voted for him because he said he wanted to end the iraq war and eventually get out of afghanistan. now here we are in libya!! i thought his life experience would make him more....less apt to want to bomb muslim countries. Â Â Not meant as an insult, but this makes you sound like a retard. The only 2 people 'in' Libya were the pilots that crashed. Not really comparable to the other two i don't think. You don't really think he wanted to get involved here do you? I can't remember the last time where there was this much consensus about something like this. Hell, the Arabs even agreed to it. And he's now in the process of trying to turn over command of the whole deal. And your girl Hilary is the front man for the whole thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 71 Posted March 24, 2011 Â he's cutting the pell grant! Â This is the one thing I have a huge issue with..how they wrecked the student loan industry. Upwards of 10k people lost their jobs nation wide when they brought the FFELP program back under government control. As if they've ever run anything correctly. And they couldn't even do it with a straight up vote. It was hidden/attached to the health care bill. And guess what he said they were gonna do with the 8 bil or so of savings? That's right, they were going to increase the Pell grant program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted March 24, 2011 Not like he's had any time to even concentrate on anything. He's trying to clean up 2 wars, a huge chunk of the Middle East/N. Africa decide to take a ######, the economy was in the sh*tter when he took over, and now Japan might fall into the ocean. Whether he's right or wrong, what a nightmare job for anyone. Â True that. He inherited a TON of problems and a bunch more have popped up since. But to me it all comes down to the economy. If that was humming along I think the rest would be manageable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted March 24, 2011 Quite possibly the dumbest thing ever posted here. Thanx for the new sig  Damn.... you finally got rid of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted March 24, 2011 I'm pretty happy with the job President Obama is doing. I think he has made a few mistakes and failed to keep a couple of key promises. But that's what happens with all politicians. Â The reason some people are becoming disillusioned with Pres. Obama is because he promised so much when eh was running. He basically promised to fundamentally change the way politics is done in America and, lo and behold, it didn't turn out that way. If he hadn't promised the sun, the moon, and the stars, I think many people would be pretty happy with what he has done so far. Not the far right-wingers because they were going to hate him no matter what, but he would be doing better with the independents and liberals. Â I am not happy with what Obama is doing at all. And it has nothing to do with the economy. Anyone with half a brain knew it was going to take a loooooooooong time to get out of the mess we created for ourselves. I was not disillusioned with all the "hope and change" propaganda that he was spewing. Again anyone with half a brain would know that wasn't possible. Â I still voted for him. And the sole reason I voted for him was because of Sarah Palin... period. I am generally a liberal when it comes to social issues. Gay marriage and abortion to name two. I took McCain seriously and I actually pretty much liked him and was probably swaying that way until he named Sarah Palin as his running mate. At that point he lost all credibility with me. John McCain was someone who I believe was pretty much in the middle and had the right ideals and was not going to be another George W reincarnate. Once the republican party brings the bible thumpers to the mix.... I'm out. It disgusts me and I will not have anything to do with it. However, I heard what Obama was saying during his campaigning. He made no secret that he was going to tax the hell out of the people making over a certain amount of money which I am affected by. I knew that. I went in eyes wide open. And I would still choose that 7 days a week and twice on Sunday over some insane religious right bible beater. Â And I will admit I voted for Hillary as the democratic candidate in the primary because I really wanted Bill back in the white house. Not that the b!tch would have listened to him, but having him back there couldn't be a bad thing. And yes I still would have been taxed out the wazoo if she were in office. I knew that. Â What pisses me off about Obama now, and as a board-certified liberal in RP and others eyes, is there were only a few things I cared about while voting. One was getting the fock out of the Middle East. For some reason I had faith in this guy that he would stay the fock out of it. That has been proven wrong. So now I'm pretty much left with the same focking economic chaos that would exist no matter who was in office, and new wars we should be staying the fock out of that I hoped if a democrat was in office we would avoid. But at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter. They are all freaking puppets and the outcome would be the same no matter what. Well except maybe the crippling deficit we are getting ourselves into with earmark laden "stimulus packages". Â One thing I will commend Obama for however... is his stance against legal immigration. W went nuts with this shiit and anyone and everyone was allowed to come here and work. (From India). And I know first hand how much he's cut back on this so this is one issue where I actually applaud him and he is fighting against big business to keep American jobs in tact. And none of you people probably even know about this because Fox News doesn't report on it. But pretty much this is the only thing that makes me happy with him as President. Â Did I just create an IMMensaMind post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,541 Posted March 24, 2011 Â One thing I will commend Obama for however... is his stance against legal immigration. W went nuts with this shiit and anyone and everyone was allowed to come here and work. (From India). And I know first hand how much he's cut back on this so this is one issue where I actually applaud him and he is fighting against big business to keep American jobs in tact. And none of you people probably even know about this because Fox News doesn't report on it. But pretty much this is the only thing that makes me happy with him as President. Â Did I just create an IMMensaMind post? Â Hey toots. You know what would create a hell of a lot of jobs for Americans? Getting rid of the 15 million illegal aliens that take jobs from us. But Obama hasn't done squat to seal our border and get rid of them has he? He's caused numerous border agents to be murdered though. Woo Hoo!! Go Obama!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted March 24, 2011 Hey toots. You know what would create a hell of a lot of jobs for Americans? Getting rid of the 15 million illegal aliens that take jobs from us. But Obama hasn't done squat to seal our border and get rid of them has he? He's caused numerous border agents to be murdered though. Woo Hoo!! Go Obama!!! Â How so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted March 24, 2011 That's what you get for setting the bar at "Not being the worst President in the history of ever". At least he'll always have that going for him. Â Since Republicans have shown that they are capable of doing much worse, so it has to give folks a pause. Â I'm ready to dump Obama, but since we'd have to replace him with a Republican we have to be careful to get one that has a clue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted March 24, 2011 Hey toots. You know what would create a hell of a lot of jobs for Americans? Getting rid of the 15 million illegal aliens that take jobs from us. But Obama hasn't done squat to seal our border and get rid of them has he? He's caused numerous border agents to be murdered though. Woo Hoo!! Go Obama!!! Â What did W do for that? Â Maybe I'm an elitist. But you know what? He has SERIOUSLY cracked down on H1B visas and deported a lot of people W let in this country and I am A-OK with that. Again... not reported on Fox News. Â ETA I said LEGAL immigration. I wasn't talking about border security. I was talking about the shiit loads of people that were allowed to come here and drive down the market value of American workers under H1B visas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikki2200 4 Posted March 24, 2011 At least he'll always have that going for him. Â Republicanshave shown that they are capable of doing much worse, so it has to give folks a pause. Â George W is going to hold that title for at least a century, so anyone that comes in is better by comparison. I find solace in that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites