dschddny 0 Posted September 5, 2011 I'm drafting tomorrow night in a 10-team redraft. Where do you pull the trigger on Peyton as he drops? I'm thinking maybe 5th or 6th and then grabbing a QB like Flacco or Bradford in the 8th or 9th to hold the fort til Peyton is healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dschddny 0 Posted September 5, 2011 Another thought is to draft Collins late and then start him until Peyton is back. But then I'd be without a backup at that point, hmm......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyB1972 1 Posted September 5, 2011 Call me crazy, but I would talk about his injury if I wanted him, try to psych people out, then the earliest is the 7th round, then you have your skill starters, minus Manning...Then I would probably grab another QB pretty quickly....But to be honest, I would avoid him myself, until it became impossible to do so....It is starting to look like 2-4-6 weeks possibly...I would have to assume 4-6 weeks...I guess you could in the 6th, if you had a good plan for your 6th skill player, that you think will still be there. I tried to avoid Foster and Colts, until it was too good a deal...I got D Clark later, and Addai as like a RB4/5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dschddny 0 Posted September 5, 2011 How late did you get Clark? And was he the last of the "big 5" TE's to go (after Gates, Finley, Witten, and Davis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted September 5, 2011 No earlier than 120th overall. Too many good players available. I'll let some other sucker use a roster spot for 4 weeks only to learn it will be another 4 weeks and then that he won't return until week 15. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted September 5, 2011 he is pretty much untouchable for me at this point, we have no idea what to expect and this could turn from 1-2 weeks into 4-6 into him possibly being ready for a late season playoff push if the colts are still in contention. if not in contention? shut it down for the season. best case scenario is he misses houston and comes back a little rusty. but with so many good QB options this year, why risk it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyB1972 1 Posted September 5, 2011 How late did you get Clark? And was he the last of the "big 5" TE's to go (after Gates, Finley, Witten, and Davis? Davis was still there, but I am also wary of SF, and if Collins has to start, I still like Collins, more than I do anyone SF is going to trot out there...I think TE won't be hit by the manning situation as much, and it could even improve the value as a check down...It still made me grimmace. Manning went in round 3 last night, 4th in my Friday league, and someone had already put him in as a keeper, before the bad info in my first league...So I didn't have to deal with it then. He may come around, and people get a steal, but I prefer someone else take that chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe Elf 0 Posted September 5, 2011 I would draft him about where people drafted Roethlisberger last year--or even a little higher--and then just assume he has a six week suspension too (draft backups accordingly). Gold doesn't get rusty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boilermaker04 11 Posted September 5, 2011 I think the 5th/6th is way too early now because of people running away from him. Why use your 5th when you can snag him in the 8th? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patmos 2 Posted September 5, 2011 he is pretty much untouchable for me at this point, we have no idea what to expect and this could turn from 1-2 weeks into 4-6 into him possibly being ready for a late season playoff push if the colts are still in contention. if not in contention? shut it down for the season. best case scenario is he misses houston and comes back a little rusty. but with so many good QB options this year, why risk it? I'm with White Wonder - consider him untouchable. It's all just speculation, but they are talking in terms of season-ending, maybe even career-ending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 62 Posted September 6, 2011 I wouldn't draft him at all, unless the rest of my team was already set. How many months has it been since he's played any meaningful football? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EyeOfDaTiga 0 Posted September 6, 2011 Bit the bullet and took him in the 6th and I already had Vick. Couldn't help myself. Couldn't pass him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted September 6, 2011 I'm actually considering drafting Peyton (if he falls that far) as a backup QB. Draft your main QB first, then gamble that Manning will return this season and help you in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted September 6, 2011 Bit the bullet and took him in the 6th and I already had Vick. Couldn't help myself. Couldn't pass him up. that's genius! take an oft injured QB early and back him up with one that already is! And as a bonus, spend 1/3 of your first 6 draft picks on the position that has the lowest roster requirement of all the skill positions. EyeOfDaTiga indeed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vash1012 19 Posted September 6, 2011 I picked him up in the 7th. They are projecting missing 4-5 games. My other QB (Stafford), I think, is going to have a great year. If Manning does come back and gets back into his usual groove, then I got huge value and an every week starter. My team is so utterly stacked that I could easily trade for a solid tier 3 QB as a back up/starter if Stafford goes down if needed. If I had been weak at a position when he was still there in the 7th, I woulda let someone else take a risk on him, but I hadn't reached on anyone yet. You gotta take some risks if you are gonna come out ahead in this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted September 6, 2011 Peyton went in the first pick of the 7th round tonight. 12 team league, .5 ppr, 6 pts for QB tds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Football Guru 212 Posted September 6, 2011 It seems like to me that most people are in agreement the following are QB1s this season: Rodgers Vick Brees Brady Rivers Romo Ryan Roethlisberger So if you agree with this, that means the rest of the QBs are low-end QB1 or matchup starters at best. Manning probably should go after this group. And as someone else said earlier, it's probably safe to treat Manning the same way we treated Big Ben last year. In my money leaguers last season, Big Ben went in the 8-10 round range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted September 6, 2011 Pretty much. Peyton should either be the last starter taken or the first backup. That's about where his value is now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justforbeer 39 Posted September 6, 2011 Simple You don't draft him. on second thought. Draft him after your 2nd kicker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted September 6, 2011 Simple You don't draft him. on second thought. Draft him after your 2nd kicker. Exactly....where do you draft him? You let someone else deal with that all year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted September 6, 2011 I passed on him last night in the 3rd...4th...5th...6th...and someone finally grabbed him in the 7th. Unless you have huge rosters, I'd probably never take him. Maybe in the 10th or so in a big league, if I had a good starter with a late bye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RicemanX 20 Posted September 6, 2011 I'm doing my last draft today, so I might try the: WR/RB/WR/RB/WR/RB and then pick up Manning in the 7th and then a solid QB like Flacco or Bradford in the 8th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatGray 2 Posted September 7, 2011 I drafted yesterday at the turn in a ten man league. Went WR/WR/RB/RB/RB...was hoping to get Matt Ryan but he got snagged a round earlier than hoped. Ended up taking Stafford last pick in the 7th and Peyton first pick in the 8th. It's clearly a gamble, but with him as a backup I think this strategy could work out. My team ended up as follows: QB: Stafford, P. Manning RB1: Blount RB2: Greene Flex: Wells, Maclin (+ B Jacobs, McGahee, etc.) WR1: Andre Johnson WR2: Calvin Johnson TE: Aaron Hernandez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted September 7, 2011 It seems like to me that most people are in agreement the following are QB1s this season: Rodgers Vick Brees Brady Rivers Romo Ryan Roethlisberger So if you agree with this, that means the rest of the QBs are low-end QB1 or matchup starters at best. Manning probably should go after this group. And as someone else said earlier, it's probably safe to treat Manning the same way we treated Big Ben last year. In my money leaguers last season, Big Ben went in the 8-10 round range. i disagree with this completely. now, Peyton could only miss 1 game and thats great but last year with Big Ben, we KNEW how many games he was missing and could plan for when he would be back. We can't just assume Peyton is back after 4 weeks and we can't assume anything about his health even if he does come back by then. Ben wasn't dealing with any injuries. All he had to do was shake off a little rust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted September 7, 2011 went 7th round in our league. i think thats at least a round early...i agree with most here, just stay away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted September 7, 2011 he is pretty much untouchable for me at this point, we have no idea what to expect and this could turn from 1-2 weeks into 4-6 into him possibly being ready for a late season playoff push if the colts are still in contention. if not in contention? shut it down for the season. best case scenario is he misses houston and comes back a little rusty. but with so many good QB options this year, why risk it? I agree with this. If I were drafting now, I'd cross Manning off my list. His injury and progress is really not good. Way too much risk. Plus, when/if he does play, how good will he be? He's just too scary this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GridIronAssassin#1 0 Posted September 7, 2011 I would draft him about where people drafted Roethlisberger last year--or even a little higher--and then just assume he has a six week suspension too (draft backups accordingly). Gold doesn't get rusty. This is fool's gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted September 7, 2011 CBS has this posted..... Peyton Manning, QB INDNews: WDNE-AM in Indianapolis is reporting that Colts QB Peyton Manning has undergone another surgical procedure on his neck and is in danger of missing the season. This is the second radio report from Indianapolis in less than a week that has suggested that Manning will not play in 2011. Manning has been ruled out for Week 1 at Houston already as he has not rehabbed quickly enough from neck surgery in May. "It will be tough not to be out there playing for the organization and our fans," Manning said regarding missing Week 1, per ESPN. "I simply am not healthy enough to play." Analysis: As we've been saying for days, Fantasy owners should have a backup plan in place for Manning. For Week 1, we like Colt McCoy (vs. Cincinnati), Kevin Kolb (vs. Carolina), Kyle Orton (vs. Oakland) and of course Collins (at Houston). Potential long-term replacements for Manning include Donovan McNabb, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Chad Henne, Matt Hasselbeck and naturally Collins. None of these quarterbacks come close to Manning in talent but they'll actually play whereas Manning might not. We'll keep you posted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roroco 75 Posted September 7, 2011 So where do we draft Manning? 2nd or 3rd round.... Next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
